The Gods #76491 Questions about the Temple of Zeus

[AskSatanOperator]

Even though I believe this is a good change, I am confused. Do we acknowledge that Satan is Beelzebul? Or are they still two separate beings? Shall we not use Father Satan's name anymore and use Zeus instead to communicate? Is Satan's ritual obsolete now, or is Beelzebul's ritual obsolete? Were my experiences with Satan and Beelzebul, experiences with different aspects of one individual God? Are Thor and Odin the same God as well? Thanks and sorry for my questions, I'm just confused.

 

[Satyanik]

They are different Gods. I suggest you carefully reread the latest Sermons of High Priest Hooded Cobra that encapsulate the answers you seek.


No, Their Rituals are not obsolete.


Also, They are not the same God. Odin is Satanas. Satanas = Wodanaz

Satanas Or Wodanaz – The Origins of Odin

This is false. They are not different gods. They are the same god

Satan is the spiritual/unmanifested aspect, and Beelzebub is the physical/manifested aspect

But physically they are the same god and the same god will answer whether you use Satan’s sigil or Beelzebub’s

I suggest you take your own advice and reread the sermons, meditate on the information given, and approach Satan himself and ask for guidance towards clarification on this subject

 

[Satyanik]

Also, They are not the same God. Odin is Satanas. Satanas = Wodanaz

Satanas Or Wodanaz – The Origins of Odin

These are also the same God. Satan = Odin

Beelzebub = Thor

Satan = Beelzebub

therefore Satan = Thor

these are all allegorical names of the same being to teach us spiritually, as I said above.

Satan = unmanifested/unseen/spiritual aspect of the universe. Beelzebub = manifested/seen/physical aspect of the universe

 

[OttoHart]

Exoterically, one God can take many identities.
Esoterically, one God's being can have many aspects.
This is why this question is particularly hard to clarify.

"Are Satan and Baalzebul one and the same?"
Yes, they are the same being and "person". Zeus is Baalzebul, Zeus is Satan, Baalzebul is Satan.

"Should we instead use Zeus to communicate?"
Either are fine. Satan, Satanas, Satya, Zeus, Zeus Lucifer, and also names like Odin/Wotan or other identities depending on what you feel closest to.
I've personally found Zeus Lucifer to be the best to call Him, and I am neutral to most mythologies and cultures because of how I was raised, so I'd say this is a good "neutral opinion".
If you are Greek, you might find it very close to home to use Zeus. If you found the Gods by looking into the Enemy's works and reverse engineering, Satan might be close to you. Similarly to if you are an older member.
The same being will pick up the phone.

"Is either Ritual obsolete?"
No. The Rituals serve many roles, including complex Theurgy, because the Gods are not just beings, but also aspects of the Universe, pillars of the Soul, and so much more. Satanas and Baalzebul represent two different pillars of the Soul, and two different aspects of existence, two different "powers of God", etc., but are ultimately the same being. In the Temple, it was told that Satan's Absolution Ritual deals with the parasivanic (before existence) side of things in a much more direct way than Baalzebul's Power Ritual. Note also that one is an Absolution Ritual and one is a Power Ritual.
While I can't explain exactly everything a Ritual does (this is beyond my level by a lot), they do in fact do different things.

"Are Odin and Thor the same person?"
Yes. Zeus, Poseidon and Hades are all the same person. Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva, too. This, while "new information" to some, is not that hard to believe.

It's fine to be confused, these changes will be more clarified with announcements, and more importantly, with time.
In the meantime, do feel free to experiment. Use different names (Satan and Zeus, for example), and see who picks up the phone, etc.
Depending on your level, you might not feel that they are the same being responding, because I also felt different energies at first, but there is a common essence between the two names. Advancement will make this clearer, as there are gaps for me as well.

 

[sinbad]

I'm not sure why so many people are confused.

You can think of it like if one person makes several accounts on a website. Two different accounts, same "user" behind them both.

This is very reductionist/simplistic explanation, but hopefully it makes it less confusing and easier to comprehend.

 

[SeguaceDiSatanas]

Shall we not use Father Satan's name anymore

Read here:

Even the Names the enemy used in many cases, are not blasphemous or wrong to the Gods, but they are falsely perceived that way by the mindwashed folk.

Satan or Satanas is nothing bad of a Name, it has other origins; but the question is that the people have been strongly embed and instructed to not see it that way.

As they first encounter the real Gods and then they understand this was the nasty work of the Jews [in that order] they will see it more openly like we have seen it here ourselves.

Then it starts making far more direct sense, than let's say, starting from the Jewish standpoint and deconstructing it.

We want to bring people in with clarity and the full truth, not to hide anything.

Or are they still two separate beings?

Read here:

Behind the general code-word for the essence, there are many things. There is nothing abnormal with any of these distinctions. The general concept of Sa or Sat [Truth] divides itself in many ways. The concept of Sa and Sat [existing in Ancient Egypt & Sanskrit very evidently] does divide into many things later on.

This is like saying Bob is a father to someone, but Bob is also a construction worker, Bob is also a tax payer, and Bob is also wearing clothes; all of these things are real in the same time. It's still Bob or Truth in that case, simultaneously fulfilling many tasks and roles.

are they still two separate beings?

Read here:

Yes, the entity we call Satan or Satanas is many things; for one, he is the incarnation of the Truth. Past that, He is an entity, but above all, he is also an essence of Truth itself. The name Satan has it's source in the Satanama and Satya mantra; the literalization of this was called before Zeus or Dheus Pater, or simply Truth.

Jews took this out of context and made it into some evil character in the Bible, who nevertheless, they reveal was the Head God of the Romans, Ancient Egyptians, Greeks and basically everyone else predating them.

Is Satan's ritual obsolete now, or is Beelzebul's ritual obsolete?

Nothing was invalidated. In fact if you notice things are still there on the site. Obviously a lot will be updated. As happened with the Dedication of the Soul. It is valid, but it has been updated for the needs of now where Christianity is so hollow and fallen and has less and less influence on people that there is no point in claiming that "the holy spirit is rotten" (which was a simple act of rebellion to what you were indoctrinated with. Biblical characters do not exist; the purpose was not to offend them) to pledge allegiance to Satan.

Were my experiences with Satan and Beelzebul, experiences with different aspects of one individual God?

They are listed as two different Deities, if you see the list of Demons:

The Pantheon of Hell

You simply have to understand that very often Gods have multiple characteristics and that their nature can universes to the nature of another God. These are things that we cannot understand directly since they are not part of our "typical day." But Cosmic Gods like Satanas and Baalzevulon are so important in the universe that they can be one in the same of how the universe works, despite physically being two distinct beings with different charisms, different souls, different physical aspects, etc.

Going into mythology. The Gods, albeit primarily we know them to be "this or that" entity, in Mythology or Lore [that's why it's called Mythology, it's Mythological - meant for instructive purposes and conveying myths] they do the following:

1. Take many forms
2. Conflate identities - Sometimes take opposing sides (within the context of learning for the Initiates - such as Poseidon battling Zeus)
3. Show aspects that might have to do with other Gods
4. One God can take many faces, not necessarily one.

 

[SeguaceDiSatanas]

I'm not sure why so many people are confused.

Simply, people have to get used again to understanding what true spirituality looks like, what a cosmic aspect of a true God looks like, how the universe works and so on. Time must be given to these things. Now that the Jews' mental illness is cured, people need to get used to normal life outside the psychiatric ward again.

It is normal for them to have questions and confusions since they have spent most of their lives having to answer a Jew's bullshit. A person who has spent sixty years tied to a psychiatric hospital bed being fed may also have lost basic functionality and it may take time for them to reactivate things like muscle memory, etc. Jewish crap has disabused people of understanding certain things. Now people have to get back to it. This is no different from any form of rehabilitation from a hip fracture.

 

[loki6]

Hello, Brother/Sister!

I dont fully agree with You fully

If They Are the Same Gods,then why did High Priestess Maxine Dietrich say that Father Satan and Baalzebul are not the same Gods?

For example, Mammon is the money aspect of Zeus, and the JoS site provides information about this.

But there is no such information about Father Satan. As far as I know, they are not the same gods, though they are connected, and I will try to explain it.

As we know, there is Anu (Akasha, Chaos), Enki (from An—like Anu—and Ki), and Enlil (Enki's brother).

Anu is pure potential, just energy.

Satan, as I understand, is the architect of Chaos—they are the same, but Akasha itself has no character or emotions, only potential energy. Father Satan manifests this energy into life, while Father Baalzebul represents a more physical structure and is the brother of Father Satan.

Hail Satan! Hail Baalzebul!