Was Ptolemaic Dynasty of Egypt Jew?

[Pammy]

Not sure this is the right place for this but no idea where would be better. Don’t hesitate to correct me if I’m wrong please.

The life of Cleopatra VII is a personal interest of mine. Everyone knows her name but not many knows about her genius and brutality. She did everything to keep herself on the throne and to keep Egypt independent. From murdering her siblings to seducing Julius Caesar and Marcus Antonius. Her suspicious death marked the end of the Hellenistic Age and the fall of Egypt.

Cleopatra is not exactly a name, it’s a name and a title for female pharaohs, or Egyptian queens, from Ptolemaic Dynasty though it’s not certain if it’s a name or title. Ptolemaic Dynasty started with Ptolemy I Soter, a Macedonian-Greek general and companion of Alexander the Great. Ptolemaic Dynasty was obsessed with keeping their bloodline pure that they did one of the most odious acts, always married their cousins and siblings. My question is were they trying to keep Jews out or keep themselves Jew?

Macedonian-Greek Ptolemaics always preserved them from local Egyptians. Except for Cleopatra VII, none of them bothered to learn Egyptian. In fact, Cleopatra VII could speak not only her native Koine Greek and Egyptian, but she could speak and write in Ethiopian, Troglodytic (the language of Africans living in Egypt), Arabic, Aramaic, Median (Persians), Parthian, and Hebrew at least. Maybe Latin too. This is according to Plutarch. She didn’t need any interpreter when accepting her political guests. She was developing trading roads with other countries to free Egypt from Greek influence, at least to prevent Roman Empire from consuming Egypt. After her death, Egypt became a province of the Roman Empire.

Her linguistic ability aside, she was very well educated in mathematics, philosophy, oratory, and astronomy. Many historians praised her intelligence. I bet if you dig a bit, you’ll start to doubt the accuracy of the sources. How can someone be a diplomat, naval commander, linguist, and physician/medical author at the same time?

I’m not going to bore you with the Egyptian version of Game of Thrones. She had the throne but she had to share it with his brother that she had to marry when he is only 10 and she is 18 to have the throne, young Ptolemy somehow got her expatriated, she seduced Caesar and his army wasn’t bad as a dowry to be honest, some brothers were murdered and some sister got drowned in the Nile along the way. She took the throne, crown, rod, whatever they had.

Caesar was another political genius. You know. Veni, vidi, vici. Et tu, Brute? Death. Marcus Antonius. Same story again. Cleopatra was unlucky with her political partner/lovers. It’s still not certain if she committed suicide after Marcus Antonius’s death or was assassinated.

The most important point is, that Cleopatra VII believed that she was chosen by Isıs. She believed that she, herself is a goddess walking on the earth too. Or this is how current historians interpret her admiration for Isıs.

What do you think? Was she delusional? Can she be someone who studied spirituality? She received the best possible education in Egypt and Greece. Was Ptolemaic Dynasty invaded by Jews?

 

[darkmonkey666]

This was the beginning of the real war by the enemy against humanity around that time and should be right around when age of Pisces started the official shift to it sometime during that. I take a guess to say exactly when they say Jewsus was born give or take a couple years.

So it was a war time. Not peaceful. Some people were getting taken in by the enemy stuff. I think she and many people in power back then were fighting to protect Egypt.

 

[Jrvan]

Keep in mind that we can't know the real history beyond a shadow of a doubt. It's nearly impossible to discern for certain what is altered record, and what really happened. Aside from the obvious of jews having a hand in many translations of records, there was also certainly a lot of propaganda and counter propaganda flying all over the place. What is factual might not ever be known, or very little of what we do have might actually be fact.

What we have beyond all of that is the monuments, temples, pyramids, tablets, wall writings, images, spiritual symbols, and other such things that have stood the test of time and couldn't be altered. We have our mythologies which tell us everything we need to know and more when we look upon them with spiritual eyes. Archaeology is our best bet for concrete fact, and that also gets thwarted by jews more often than not. They are intent on erasing our precious history whenever we find it.

To answer your question, I don't personally believe the dynasty was originally jewish, but it's possible that it became jewish. The same happened with many spiritual bloodlines including royal ones that the jews injected their filthy, disgusting Cohen gene into.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

She is one of the historical characters about which more lies have been invented, even most of the coins of Cleopatra and Marcus Antonius are false, the famous bust attributed to Cleopatra is also false or is of another person.
The whole story around these three historical characters is more full of lies than of true things.

 

[Pammy]

I take a guess to say exactly when they say Jewsus was born give or take a couple years.
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I think she and many people in power back then were fighting to protect Egypt.

You are right. Cleopatra died in 30 BCE. 30 years before Jesus was supposed to be born, if he did. I don't know about others but she was fighting to protect Egypt. I admire her and someone was talking about many pharaohs are being jews. It was a bit upsetting to think about admiring a jew pharaoh but if she was a jew she wouldn't work so hard to keep Egypt alive, would she?

 

[Pammy]

They are intent on erasing our precious history whenever we find it.

Yeah. Recently someone had that great idea to left 10.000-15.000 years old artifacts in Göbeklitepe under the sun, rain, and snow without any protection. I used to think that the terrifying amount of carelessness against ancient ruins is due to idiocy, it turns out that it is sheer hostility. I mean, a well preserved Zeus altar was here! I could visit it on a day long trip if it was still here. It was standing here as it did for two thousand years! Then what? Some German dudes came, found it, took it from its temple and put it into their museum, and nobody said anything! Not even a single officer. No authority. Nobody cared enough. I'm mad at them for taking it but I'm angrier at the local people for letting them, for not protecting the temple.

To answer your question, I don't personally believe the dynasty was originally jewish, but it's possible that it became jewish. The same happened with many spiritual bloodlines including royal ones that the jews injected their filthy, disgusting Cohen gene into.

The companion of Alexander the Great and the ancestor of Ptolemaics is not likely to be jew, I agree. If Cleopatra, the last pharaoh, is gentile too, this means they did protect their bloodline until the very end, even though disgusting means. But maybe some cousins or siblings who didn't inherit the throne were jew or with jews. I like Cleopatra vii a lot and I may be a bit biased because of this.

 

[darkmonkey666]

I take a guess to say exactly when they say Jewsus was born give or take a couple years.
...
I think she and many people in power back then were fighting to protect Egypt.

You are right. Cleopatra died in 30 BCE. 30 years before Jesus was supposed to be born, if he did. I don't know about others but she was fighting to protect Egypt. I admire her and someone was talking about many pharaohs are being jews. It was a bit upsetting to think about admiring a jew pharaoh but if she was a jew she wouldn't work so hard to keep Egypt alive, would she?

No she was right around that time. Remember they use the death and resurrection thing in that. If you count it like they appeared to want to the start of age of Pisces is around 30-35 BCE. That fits my memory of the time as well it seems there was some Giant energy shift right near the end of power for her. No I have no clue who I was or anything btw.

 

[Pammy]

I take a guess to say exactly when they say Jewsus was born give or take a couple years.
...
I think she and many people in power back then were fighting to protect Egypt.

You are right. Cleopatra died in 30 BCE. 30 years before Jesus was supposed to be born, if he did. I don't know about others but she was fighting to protect Egypt. I admire her and someone was talking about many pharaohs are being jews. It was a bit upsetting to think about admiring a jew pharaoh but if she was a jew she wouldn't work so hard to keep Egypt alive, would she?

No she was right around that time. Remember they use the death and resurrection thing in that. If you count it like they appeared to want to the start of age of Pisces is around 30-35 BCE. That fits my memory of the time as well it seems there was some Giant energy shift right near the end of power for her. No I have no clue who I was or anything btw.

You might be right. I can't speak for what happened 2000 years ago. Everyone except famous rulers/commanders/VIPs is forgotten by now so... yeah. Egyptian names of gods felt always familiar to me unlike Nordic and other ones. I know nothing other than that. This may mean or not I did live in Egypt in another life. To be honest it really doesn't matter.

 

[darkmonkey666]

You are right. Cleopatra died in 30 BCE. 30 years before Jesus was supposed to be born, if he did. I don't know about others but she was fighting to protect Egypt. I admire her and someone was talking about many pharaohs are being jews. It was a bit upsetting to think about admiring a jew pharaoh but if she was a jew she wouldn't work so hard to keep Egypt alive, would she?

No she was right around that time. Remember they use the death and resurrection thing in that. If you count it like they appeared to want to the start of age of Pisces is around 30-35 BCE. That fits my memory of the time as well it seems there was some Giant energy shift right near the end of power for her. No I have no clue who I was or anything btw.

You might be right. I can't speak for what happened 2000 years ago. Everyone except famous rulers/commanders/VIPs is forgotten by now so... yeah. Egyptian names of gods felt always familiar to me unlike Nordic and other ones. I know nothing other than that. This may mean or not I did live in Egypt in another life. To be honest it really doesn't matter.

I don't remember a lot but pretty sure no one was Jew then in upper power in Egypt. The flashback I had was the energy shift in 2012 (please note I am not sure what that was but it wasn't negative like this) it caused that. I saw myself at the pyramids doing rituals some black cloud of energy came over everything. Some people knew it was the end or believed humanity won't survive this. A lot of people kind of gave up some committed suicide. Others just took the calm before the storm to enjoy being able to be aware and still be free for a last time before knowing they may not be like that again for a long time.


Really this is all I remember. I am sure it was the time of Cleopatra but I don't remember seeing her or anything I was mostly doing rituals trying to stop this energy or storm as some called it.

 

[Stonesofwisdom]

Not sure this is the right place for this but no idea where would be better. Don’t hesitate to correct me if I’m wrong please.

The life of Cleopatra VII is a personal interest of mine. Everyone knows her name but not many knows about her genius and brutality. She did everything to keep herself on the throne and to keep Egypt independent. From murdering her siblings to seducing Julius Caesar and Marcus Antonius. Her suspicious death marked the end of the Hellenistic Age and the fall of Egypt.

Cleopatra is not exactly a name, it’s a name and a title for female pharaohs, or Egyptian queens, from Ptolemaic Dynasty though it’s not certain if it’s a name or title. Ptolemaic Dynasty started with Ptolemy I Soter, a Macedonian-Greek general and companion of Alexander the Great. Ptolemaic Dynasty was obsessed with keeping their bloodline pure that they did one of the most odious acts, always married their cousins and siblings. My question is were they trying to keep Jews out or keep themselves Jew?

Macedonian-Greek Ptolemaics always preserved them from local Egyptians. Except for Cleopatra VII, none of them bothered to learn Egyptian. In fact, Cleopatra VII could speak not only her native Koine Greek and Egyptian, but she could speak and write in Ethiopian, Troglodytic (the language of Africans living in Egypt), Arabic, Aramaic, Median (Persians), Parthian, and Hebrew at least. Maybe Latin too. This is according to Plutarch. She didn’t need any interpreter when accepting her political guests. She was developing trading roads with other countries to free Egypt from Greek influence, at least to prevent Roman Empire from consuming Egypt. After her death, Egypt became a province of the Roman Empire.

Her linguistic ability aside, she was very well educated in mathematics, philosophy, oratory, and astronomy. Many historians praised her intelligence. I bet if you dig a bit, you’ll start to doubt the accuracy of the sources. How can someone be a diplomat, naval commander, linguist, and physician/medical author at the same time?

I’m not going to bore you with the Egyptian version of Game of Thrones. She had the throne but she had to share it with his brother that she had to marry when he is only 10 and she is 18 to have the throne, young Ptolemy somehow got her expatriated, she seduced Caesar and his army wasn’t bad as a dowry to be honest, some brothers were murdered and some sister got drowned in the Nile along the way. She took the throne, crown, rod, whatever they had.

Caesar was another political genius. You know. Veni, vidi, vici. Et tu, Brute? Death. Marcus Antonius. Same story again. Cleopatra was unlucky with her political partner/lovers. It’s still not certain if she committed suicide after Marcus Antonius’s death or was assassinated.

The most important point is, that Cleopatra VII believed that she was chosen by Isıs. She believed that she, herself is a goddess walking on the earth too. Or this is how current historians interpret her admiration for Isıs.

What do you think? Was she delusional? Can she be someone who studied spirituality? She received the best possible education in Egypt and Greece. Was Ptolemaic Dynasty invaded by Jews?

Esenlikler

Aşağıda bir şey yazmışsın ona cevap vereyim. Bergama sunağı Almanya'ya götürülmeseydi (((british museum))) eseri olacaktı. Bu iyi senaryo, kötü senaryo 1. Dünya Savaşında (((Kraliyet Deniz Kuvvetleri))) tarafından topa tutulup paramparça olacaktı ve asla göremeyecektin. Şimdi Almanya'ya gidersen bir gün, görebilirsin. Bunun için önce ikinci abdülhamit'e sonra atatürk'e teşekkür borçlusun. Diyeceklerim bu kadar.

İyi geceler.

 

[Pammy]

Esenlikler

Aşağıda bir şey yazmışsın ona cevap vereyim. Bergama sunağı Almanya'ya götürülmeseydi (((british museum))) eseri olacaktı. Bu iyi senaryo, kötü senaryo 1. Dünya Savaşında (((Kraliyet Deniz Kuvvetleri))) tarafından topa tutulup paramparça olacaktı ve asla göremeyecektin. Şimdi Almanya'ya gidersen bir gün, görebilirsin. Bunun için önce ikinci abdülhamit'e sonra atatürk'e teşekkür borçlusun. Diyeceklerim bu kadar.

İyi geceler.

I owe nothing to a halife i.e. the muslim pope, certainly not gratitude for giving the Bergama Altar away. Thanks.

 

[Pammy]

Thanks for sharing your memories. I don't know what to say. This is precious.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

One thing that history does not tell is that the declared enemy of Marcus Antonius and Cleopatra, Octavius, later renamed Augustus, was a puppet that the jews put on the throne of Rome. Is also a big lie that Octavius had ties with the Caesar family, he was not chosen by Julius Caesar as his successor.