On the margins of the planned Western sanctions...
What would we do in a similar situation?
What would Biden do if somewhere for 8 years US citizens were being killed by tanks, heavy artillery, banned weapons?
What would Scholz do if a territory inhabited by Germans was blockaded by someone, water cut off, children and women killed?
What would Macron do if 70 French people - women, old people - were burned alive in a trade union building?
What would Morawiecki say if Polish children had to live in basements for 8 years because of constant rocket attacks?
What would we do if, say, Romania sent tanks against Hungarians in Transylvania and killed 14,000 Hungarians?
Let's think for a moment! Everyone would do what Putin did yesterday and few would wait 8 years to decide!
Viktor Orbán is in a difficult position, because at the moment it is wrong to support the EU's Russophobic actions, and it is wrong not to support them. If he supports it, then we are 'falling in line' and siding with the Ukraine, which is initiating the bloodshed. If you do not support it, the whole Western propaganda machine will be on your case, and that will jeopardise our electoral victory. We are confident that Orban and Putin have discussed everything beforehand, agreed on the steps to be taken and understood why the other side is doing what it is doing. Go Hungary! Go Viktor Orbán!
We support the decision of Viktor Orbán and his government - whatever it is. We trust that in the current situation they will choose the best solution for Hungary and the Hungarian people.
It is very clear that the decisions that are being taken are not being made in Budapest, but in Brussels and Washington, and it is also clear that Hungary cannot change them very much. It is in our interest now that there should be calm at home, and that we should be able to hold the elections in peace.
Results:
The Russians have made a historic decision!
Russia has recognized the independence of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic!
https://szamokadatok.hu/.../Tortenelmi_dontest_hoztak_az...
The Ukrainian President remembers diplomacy as a tool!
How interesting!
https://szamokadatok.hu/.../Eszebe_jutott_a_diplomacia...
Fireworks celebrated Putin's decision in Donetsk (surely because it's so "inhumane", right?
https://magyarnemzet.hu/.../tuzijatekkal-unnepeltek...
Related videos:
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https://www.facebook.com/szamokadatok/videos/816047946456213
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Video: Putin to the West: there will be no winner in this war!
https://www.facebook.com/szamokadatok/videos/4793415374104412/
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Video: Lavrov to the British: this is the dialogue of the dumb and the deaf
https://www.facebook.com/szamokadatok/videos/483963163343299
Crimea (Let's hope that peace will finally be achieved in the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic)
We know that the Crimea referendum is (wrongly in our view) considered invalid by most Western countries, including the EU member states - including Hungary. We also know that the main reason given for this is that Russian troops 'occupied' the territory during the referendum, thus influencing the outcome. This is a gross exaggeration, as Russian troops have always been there under the treaty between the two countries, and their numbers have not exceeded the treaty limits during the events in question, and the Russian Black Sea Fleet was and is still stationed there. The Russian troops, after Ukraine had led its army against its own citizens and wanted to break them by force and, in some cases, kill them, were only helping to maintain order! The people of Crimea greeted these soldiers with flowers, and there are countless videos of this on the Internet!
There were no Russian soldiers in Odessa, where, on 2 May 2014, Ukrainian neo-Nazi forces burnt 48 people alive in the House of Trade Unions, and 250 others were injured in the attack. These were peaceful, civilian people, office workers, clerks. Their crime was simply that they spoke Russian, because it was their mother tongue.
It is quite clear that no one can be persuaded by force to go to the polls, and certainly not to influence the outcome of the referendum in this way. Nobody should question the result of the referendum, the free expression of the will of the Crimean people.
We also hold referendums in Hungary, and usually 50-70% of the people do not even turn up. How bad would it be for us if people did not accept the result of our referendum on some spurious pretext?
️ So, in chronological order, this is what happened:
1. There has been a violent coup in Ukraine, an armed takeover. Dissidents were targeted by the coup government with the army, who wanted to kill them and force them to obey the junta, which had come to power by illegal means.
2. The aim was to save lives, as the Ukrainian army and neo-Nazi forces were already on their way to Crimea. (To this day, they are blockading Donetsk and Luhansk provinces!)
After the declaration of independence, on 18 March 2014, Crimea and Russia signed the Treaty of Accession, Crimea and Sevastopol became part of the Russian Republic.
4. Note that Kosovo became independent without a referendum, and this was accepted by the European Union.
5. Crimea was Russian territory, only briefly part of Ukraine, by Khrushchev's (wrong) decision in 1954, Crimea has just "come home", not just been seceded. Let us also note that when Khrushchev made this decision, Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union at the time, so the territory was transferred "from one pocket to another", Khrushchev did not think that the Soviet Union would break up, so in our opinion he made a big mistake!
7. All in all, the current Ukrainian regime has caused the deaths of 14 000 people with its murderous operation against its own citizens. Ukraine is suppressing the rights of Hungarians, Russians, people of other nationalities living in Ukraine, occupying churches, persecuting people on religious, linguistic and ethnic grounds. On several occasions, death threats were made against Hungarians living there, and the KMKSZ office was set on fire, and then searched by the SZBU (Ukrainian Security Service), which accused the leaders of separatism.
I have a fake facebook profile and found this post there.
I would also like to ask Ukrainian and Russian people's opinion about this, what is true and what is not true of the above?
I DIDN'T WRITE THE ABOVE FACEBOOK POST, I JUST COPIED IT HERE TO MY JOS FORUM!!!!