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Selling yourself for the sake of others is an insult to what we stand for as Spiritual Satanists, and such a thing will not be condoned by people here. This is absolute cowardice.
 
Meteor said:

Why do you even want to be a woman? To get fucked in an imaginary or artificial vagina that you will never have?

You don't even understand anything about femininity or womanhood. All you are worried for is your strange fetish and obsession of wanting to be fucked in a hole you weren't born with.

Did you stop to think that this is not only insane, but also disrespectful to all woman as well? That in your mind, your only actual reason to want to be one is to be fucked, nothing else? As if that is all there is to being a woman? As if that is all that would be different if one were a woman?

You'd be happy when you get fucked in a flesh hole artificially carved out in the void of space your testicles used to occupy?

That is just as dysfunctional as wanting to be fucked in your eye socket.

You still haven't taken any of the simple advice we gave you btw.

When are you going to do your void meditation to quell and master your mind?

When are you going to trance to understand and face your true self?

When are you going to unblock your sacral chakra that is shriveled up like a dried sponge?

When are you going to start living as a Spiritual Satanist?
 
Meteor said:

Hmm... I didn’t have the balls to tell you this straight, as I do not want to hurt the feelings of people who I like, but I also feel like that you will do more harm than good if you try to chase your dream.
I do think that once you raise your serpent, you will perceive everything very differently than you do it now, and I also do not know if it is possible to raise the Serpent at all if you stay on this path.

I hope I didn’t hurt your feelings by this. At the end of the day, everything is your decision, it is your life, you choose how to life it and how you want your future to look like. This is just what I feel and think, and if more people think like this and tell you this, they do not do it to purpose to harm you, but to prevent you to be even more hurt afterwards.

But then again, it is your own life and own decision, and nobody should be trying to force you to do something you do not want.

The Outlaw Torn said:

Meteor should just post a picture of their junk so that this Male or Female debate is settled once and for all. Let’s not act like I’m the only one that really wants to see it.

I’m only half joking :lol:

It sounds like you’re just a gay outwardly effeminate twink dude that likes being penetrated you said that yourself.

I understand your aversion to Anal as someone who has been on both ends it is definitely more complicated, unclean, and possibly painful/damaging compared to vaginal, but the desire is still there and it sounds like astral sex has helped a lot with this.

Also one more thing, do you have a prostate? This is instrumental to being male and I don’t think you ever said before though there are so many pages I can’t digest it all.

Not quite appropriate.
Btw are you GG Alin?
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Meteor said:

Why do you even want to be a woman? To get fucked in an imaginary or artificial vagina that you will never have?

You don't even understand anything about femininity or womanhood. All you are worried for is your strange fetish and obsession of wanting to be fucked in a hole you weren't born with.

Did you stop to think that this is not only insane, but also disrespectful to all woman as well? That in your mind, your only actual reason to want to be one is to be fucked, nothing else? As if that is all there is to being a woman? As if that is all that would be different if one were a woman?

You'd be happy when you get fucked in a flesh hole artificially carved out in the void of space your testicles used to occupy?

That is just as dysfunctional as wanting to be fucked in your eye socket.

You still haven't taken any of the simple advice we gave you btw.

When are you going to do your void meditation to quell and master your mind?

When are you going to trance to understand and face your true self?

When are you going to unblock your sacral chakra that is shriveled up like a dried sponge?

When are you going to start living as a Spiritual Satanist?

What they want is to attain true woman and motherhood, which is not possible at all, and will simply hurt and harm them to the very core.

It is not truly possible, it is a desperate attempt, which will result in disaster, deep down they know it, but they are not able to let fully go of their desire, that’s why they still want to do it.
 
VoiceofEnki said:
Meteor said:

Why do you even want to be a woman? To get fucked in an imaginary or artificial vagina that you will never have?

You don't even understand anything about femininity or womanhood. All you are worried for is your strange fetish and obsession of wanting to be fucked in a hole you weren't born with.

Did you stop to think that this is not only insane, but also disrespectful to all woman as well? That in your mind, your only actual reason to want to be one is to be fucked, nothing else? As if that is all there is to being a woman? As if that is all that would be different if one were a woman?

You'd be happy when you get fucked in a flesh hole artificially carved out in the void of space your testicles used to occupy?

That is just as dysfunctional as wanting to be fucked in your eye socket.

You still haven't taken any of the simple advice we gave you btw.

When are you going to do your void meditation to quell and master your mind?

When are you going to trance to understand and face your true self?

When are you going to unblock your sacral chakra that is shriveled up like a dried sponge?

When are you going to start living as a Spiritual Satanist?

There is no logical thinking involved.

Just like you would sacrifice your very existence for Satan, Astarte or the Demons, if needed, which other normal people would never understand.

Just like Meteor would risk their existence to attain their unattainable goal, which we can not understand.

Nobody could really stop you to sacrifice yourself for Satan, just as it is the case with meteor where nobody will come through as well.

There is no logic. It is pure emotion.

I am not trying to make sense of it or defend them, it is just how I perceive it.

It is definitely toxic to the core and will lead to their devastating downfall, and they will regret it 100%, if they go down the road. However, Satanism is also about free will. I know this will piss you off big time, as you hate seeing them going down this road.
If you are able to open their eyes and stop their course, this would be great.
 
Meteor said:

If you knew that this course you are heading would destroy you and do devastating damage, would you still follow your desires?
 
Meteor said:

Just so you know, after a certain point is reached, there is no going back, and if you willingly jump into personal and permanent disaster, nobody will be able to save you, not even the Gods.

You have the chance now to get out this vicious cycle of suffering, once and for all, instead of going deeper and deeper into it, until there awaits you nothing but sorrow and disaster.

You know yourself what you have to do, and deep down you know that this is not quite right.

If you still want to go down that road, you are willingly jumping into disaster, and nobody will be able to stop you.

It is hard to give up on your strongest and deepest desire, eventho it is wrong. It is not wrong to desire things, altho it is very wrong and also unnatural to destroy yourself. Satanism is about natural laws, and one main instinct is that of maintainance and survival.

Just know, if you do the right decision right now, then yes you will suffer now, but this suffering will be only temporary, where as the suffering where you are heading will be eternal, just like you have suffered for so many lifetimes.

You have to chance to change everything, into a happy and strong future, as you are very strong right now,
Or you destroy everything you have built up so far and run into disaster.

The Gods has the Power to force you into not doing it, they will not force you, as they respect free will, however, they will make it very clear to you that this is not the right path. If you are still going against the Gods will, which is what is best for you, it is your own decision. If I could I would force you into not doing it, but I can not.

No matter what you do you will suffer. But you get to choose to face reality and grow with it, and go into a happy future, or choose to end everything. It is really up to you.
I do hope my words got through to you and you consider them.

In short, you will never be able to attain Motherhood and become a mother.
 
NinRick said:
What they want is to attain true woman and motherhood, which is not possible at all, and will simply hurt and harm them to the very core.

It is not truly possible, it is a desperate attempt, which will result in disaster, deep down they know it, but they are not able to let fully go of their desire, that’s why they still want to do it.

I disagree, I do not see a person that wants to attain true womanhood here, or motherhood.

Because they fail to even nurture themselves, how could anyone that fails even that understand motherhood or womanhood in any form?

They do not seek womanhood, they seek to deceive themselves until the end because facing reality is difficult to them, and self deception will give one a vain sense of happiness for a time while you remain willfully ignorant of the painful facts that one tries to escape from.

Of course, reality comes around to put you back in place after a short while, crushing the person and their delusions underfoot, but if one remains ignorant to the end by completely falling into delusion and living this delusion in all aspects of life, one will only feel that crushing all consuming pain in ones final moment as the soul dies forever.

Before that time, even though in reality one will be depressed and broken deep inside, just like a person high on drugs, the deluded person will trick themselves through blissful ignorance that indeed they are very happy and accomplished in life.

Unfortunately, this always ends in destruction.


As for the questions I "asked", they are purely rhetorical, to give perspective to the idiocy of the thoughts and ideas for the person themselves.
 
NinRick said:
There is no logical thinking involved.

Just like you would sacrifice your very existence for Satan, Astarte or the Demons, if needed, which other normal people would never understand.

Just like Meteor would risk their existence to attain their unattainable goal, which we can not understand.

Nobody could really stop you to sacrifice yourself for Satan, just as it is the case with meteor where nobody will come through as well.

There is no logic. It is pure emotion.

I am not trying to make sense of it or defend them, it is just how I perceive it.

It is definitely toxic to the core and will lead to their devastating downfall, and they will regret it 100%, if they go down the road. However, Satanism is also about free will. I know this will piss you off big time, as you hate seeing them going down this road.
If you are able to open their eyes and stop their course, this would be great.

The main difference here is the value of the thing one sacrifices for, and the value that sacrifice brings.

People may not understand such a thing, but the person themselves should.

Even for me, I certainly would not hesitate to sacrifice for the Gods in times where it is needed, but I of course would not do so in vain, I would not do it mindlessly, because my own existence brings far greater value of I continue to exist and grow, therefore the gain from the sacrifice would have to outweigh the loss of future growth.

The Gods even themselves do not want SS to sacrifice themselves totally, as indeed the loss of growth is often greater in the long term than what a momentary sacrifice can bring.

This is more complex than just a simple equation though, sacrifice is a significant event in ones existence.

To sacrifice for something so worthless as what meteor is planning on doing, which in their mind is not a sacrifice at all because they feel as though it will purely gain them something of immense value (which is not the case, it will in fact cost them something invaluable), is pure insanity.

As for whether people could get through to me, in fact they can, because I am a conscious being that considers deeply all aspects of a choice and here this choice leads to.

I look at deeply as I can to the future potentials a decision can bring and where a decision can lead, I do not decide on things lightly or with a limited view, and certainly not from a low ego perspective, but as high of a perspective I am able to reach.

If I plan on something and a wise person tells me to reconsider this, I listen to them, and perhaps I find I had not thought things through properly so I reconsider after taking good advice.

This has happened a few times in my life, especially with my GD's and a few good SS brothers and sisters helping me out at times.

On the other hand, there are many wiser, smarter and more powerful beings trying to advice and help meteor, yet they close themselves of because they wish to remain ignorant of truth since the truth weighs heavily on them.

This pain they wish to avoid at all cost, even at cost of their existence, but they do not understand how heavy existence really is which is why they can make such a foolish assessment of value of themselves and the consequence of their choice.

I wish for them to realize the error they are making before they reach the point of no return, because I have seen where this leads to in many people, therefore even if they do not listen, I still continue to tell them what they need to understand.

Even if it doesn't help them, then later I can show this to other people going through the same after it is apparent where rejecting good advice has lead Meteor, so other people may avoid this same fate.

There are more reasons why I decided to step in than just for meteors own sake.
 
LnBuZw
 
VoiceofEnki said:

I fully understand you and agree with you 666%
You are protective and caring for your fellow Satanists, I appreciate that!
 
In the interest of speaking to others in Meteor's situation in the future like VoE said, I'll leave this comment here even though I won't be speaking again to Meteor like I already stated.

There is nothing wrong with having traits, characteristics, or even behavior that is associated with females. It's okay to be nurturing, it's okay to be passive, submissive, or anything like that as a man. You don't necessarily have to be dominant, and there are other roles you can fill in society which will make your unique energies feel comfortable. You can be however you want outside the box of traditional norms. Recently I was at the hospital and there was a male nurse taking care of me, and he had amazing bedside manner. Later on someone commented on the ride home that he was effeminate and made fun of him for it, but I really appreciated the man's energy and gentleness and I know I would prefer that over a cold doctor with no feminine touch.

Going a step further, I myself plan to wear makeup in the future when I can afford it. After all, K-pop stars wear makeup and they get more access to pussy than a porn star. I believe it will make me look and feel better, and I want to look my best in society. Women aren't the only ones who can doll themselves up.

It's my soul's temple and I get to choose how I decorate it, and I don't care what other people think of me for it. If they don't like my temple then too bad, and they don't have to live in it. I support cross-dressing for this reason too.

However, I'm not going to do something retarded like chop my dick off and become a eunuch because that would ruin my temple as well as damage my soul, and I'm not retarded enough to think I can edit my soul's natural gender in order to suit a mutilated temple like that. Rejecting my soul's natural gender would also be the opposite of Satanic because I wouldn't be accepting the truth of who I am and what my soul is.

Anyone going through this in the future, take it as a lesson by observing Meteor's trip to oblivion. Take your Satanic soul seriously and don't choose self destruction. And if you do choose self destruction then don't act like your actions are Satanic in the least.
 
Meteor said:
tabby said:
You said once you believed truly that you and your fiancé were perfect for each other, and yet in your own words, they can’t even love who you are because they’d rather love an illusion than you. You choose to continue appeasing someone else’s selfish delusions and inability to own up to what they truly want and need instead of pulling yourself up, facing your own fears, and advancing properly. How insane are you to continue willingly allowing someone you care about to live in and satisfy their delusions at your expense? This isn’t some simple negotiation to find a balance between personal differences, this is full on body alteration to be something you are not and can’t be no matter how many times you choose knives and stitches over basic reality, harm yourself on a soul level, for someone else’s lies and your own.
Don't you see that it takes two to play a game? For me - who already wanted to change from the bottom of my heart - the person who already sees in me what I want to become, and considers this his ideal kind of woman, is truly a perfect match. I'm enjoying all of this as much as he is, perhaps even more. Can you even begin to imagine how it feels for me to read his mind, in which I am what I always wanted to be, despite my own insecurities about not having fully transformed yet? Truly, our compatibility is already astounding, and it only increases the more I fulfil my own wish to change. There's no better partner for the twisted self I am.

You should realise from your own words and feelings just how many people would be pleased if I were more obedient and just stayed a boy like I was born, bottling up all the sorrow until I couldn't take it anymore, only to disappoint them anyway when I inevitably don't live up to their expectations. This madness is my own selfish defiance. Once I further change my genetics even on the Soul level, and fix them up to remove the intersex conditions, your little criticisms will be completely futile. Can you imagine that? XX chromosomes, a healthy internal and external female reproductive system, a mother... but secretly a man, who hardly even remembers that himself? Even if it's true, who's going to believe you?

I have work and RTR’s to focus on today, so this is my last comment to you because I’ve lost my patience with this merry-go-round. If you’re participating, think about what that really actually means. To choose truth over lies, knowledge over ignorance, freedom over fear, and advancement over temporary morphine. You can fight the enemies and drive your hateful blade into them with all your passion but you won't fight back against your own self created monsters and fears that you allow to bind you and devour you alive.
I choose perserverance over resignation, diligently seek hidden knowledge in order to manifest my ideals, find freedom by becoming someone who's immune to the things I once feared, and delight ecstatically in my advancement. I'm sure you can tell by now how much I love to destroy the things I dislike; of course I'm participating, and I did the rituals for the schedule early today since I was particularly in the mood for it. Jrvan keeps insisting that I'm possessed, but he should really face by now that I am the monster he sees. That he thinks the innocent, proud little Meteor he knows could never truly want something like this, is simply his own misconception about me. The past six years have been an unending string of Meteor's deeply-held wishes come true, no matter how impossible he thought they were; a streak of success against all odds that has only made me even greedier. I'll devour and digest and vomit myself back up as much as I like, until I'm fully satisfied with what I've turned into. There's no reason why I shouldn't be allowed to delight in fighting against the enemies I despise so much at the same time.

Anyway, I logged back on because I wanted to make it clear that I'm only leaving temporarily because I felt violated by VoE's attempt at controlling me with his psychic abilities rather than words, and nothing else. I actually rather like it here, but I draw the line there.

VoiceofEnki said:
Why would I want to be feminine? I just want to be female. I think women should just be however they like, and do what they want. There's nothing wrong with that, and I find your insistence on gender stereotypes far more disrespectful to men and women alike.
I certainly do love sex, but I only spend 1% of my time having it. If you think I don't have so many more ambitions besides this, then you're wrong. There's also no reason why a woman can't be ambitious too even if she enjoys having sex, as you should know.

As for why, there's dozens of reasons, which I've already related extensively in this thread. There's no point in discussing it any more.

Enjoying... while your soul screams. The way one enjoys poisoning their bodies with excessive alcohol consumption at the expense of their vital organs. You delude each other, him fueling your crazy obsession because he wants a woman not a man and that plays straight into your fears of rejection and abandonment that developed from this exact reoccurring karma pattern in the first place that you refuse to deal with. You obsessively want to alter yourself to nothing because you can't face the reality that you can't be what heterosexual men want, instead of literally just finding a man who will actually love you as you are instead of your insanity. Neither of you want to face the truth and you satisfy each other's absurd mentality. You are exactly what the enemy creates, and I'm rather pissed you played as if you had a legit reason to need that damn surgery. Your intersex problem is practically irrelevant at this point, and I'm starting to wonder if the importance of fixing that is as delusional as your obsession since you have all the parts of male genitalia with XY chromosomes, a male soul, and the only thing really screwed up to be "female" are your breasts that you mentioned going through hormone therapy to get. You are nearly 100% male physically and spiritually, but want to be female because you got rejected for being male.

"A Womans Body"... a strange and fitting title for how this thread has become. Imagine... a world where there are people who have become so insane from enemy lies and propaganda, that reality is but a myth, and animals gorge on their minds as they still breathe. Where men are made to lust over the illusions of sirens who were once men themselves, dragged to the depths to be devoured by their lies. And these men, no longer human, but willing lab experiments of the enemy's murky pool happily sing and wade the waters, as the true women are forced to watch their men descend into the darkness with a sickened and twisted smile on their faces from the shores. A world where these sirens have complete access to knowledge, magick, and meditations gifted by the Gods designed to awaken ones power and advance beyond lowly existence and the never ending torment of the enemy, but instead use it to feed their haunting creature that neither satisfies their bellies nor their thirst.

What makes you think you can defy reality and be what real women are naturally born as in flesh and soul? You see this impossibility like some sick challenge, screaming "I'll show you all! I will be what I wish and you can't stop me! And I will laugh at you all who said it was impossible when I come out on the other side as I desired!" You sound like a child having a temper tantrum as their parent confiscates their play box because they puked it in. You choose this self ruin the way an obese person chooses fattening themselves to death with junk food. You want this and can't stop needing it like a drug addict wanting heroin. What would you even do if tomorrow you were told straight up by the Gods that you cannot achieve this desire? Are you going to defy even the Gods to get your way?

My sex is already being reduced to "menstruating persons" - not even called women, because the crazies get too "offended" from us calling ourselves what we are. The enemy cursed our wombs and made us hate our periods. What more are you going to take from the real natural born women under their insanity... rob us of our gift of giving life as well through artificially created wombs? You have no idea what it means to be a woman, and your fake rip-off will be nothing compared to us who were created from the love of their parents bond as Father designed us to be. Insane people like you rob us of our role with our men. VoE is absolutely right about how fucking insulting that is.

What are you here for other than to satisfy your insanity by inappropriately using meditations and magick to aid your self destruction? You don't want to follow truth and at this point I don't think you even care to, because truth is against your desires and wishes and therefore you reject it.
 
Henu the Great said:
tabby said:
jrvan said:
NinRick said:
VoiceofEnki said:
Meteor said:


I have something VERY important to add here that you may not have read at all or dismissed.

First off. Men and Women do NOT change gender. NEVER. This was already written a long time ago. Just like a human cannot be reincarnated as an animal an insect or a plant !!!!
This fact should be found on the website or in the library.

Secondly, in the old forums there was someone who did change "gender" and said that they regretted it sorely because of severe issues with the base / sacral chakra that they could not or hardly could fix.

Thirdly. Self-mutilation ?! Are you fucking crazy?!?!?!
HOW MUCH DO YOU HATE YOURSELF TO DO THAT?!

Have some dignity and OWN who you are and what your body is, for once. Be proud of yourself.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
I have something VERY important to add here that you may not have read at all or dismissed.

First off. Men and Women do NOT change gender. NEVER. This was already written a long time ago. Just like a human cannot be reincarnated as an animal an insect or a plant !!!!
This fact should be found on the website or in the library.

Secondly, in the old forums there was someone who did change "gender" and said that they regretted it sorely because of severe issues with the base / sacral chakra that they could not or hardly could fix.

Thirdly. Self-mutilation ?! Are you fucking crazy?!?!?!
HOW MUCH DO YOU HATE YOURSELF TO DO THAT?!

Have some dignity and OWN who you are and what your body is, for once. Be proud of yourself.
I think most of us here know of this, and agree. Meteor however insists on delusion, so there's that. Free will, however botched in most people, is free will nontheless.

It's also well known fact that mutilating genitalia will damage sacral chakra. Again, if someone insists on doing such, all I've got to say is that you reap what you sow. As long as they do not spread this bullshit around we're good.

Jack said:
This is pretty good actually.
Yeah, your post reminded me of that. In my teens I grew up with music like that. :)
 
Henu the Great said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
I have something VERY important to add here that you may not have read at all or dismissed.

First off. Men and Women do NOT change gender. NEVER. This was already written a long time ago. Just like a human cannot be reincarnated as an animal an insect or a plant !!!!
This fact should be found on the website or in the library.

Secondly, in the old forums there was someone who did change "gender" and said that they regretted it sorely because of severe issues with the base / sacral chakra that they could not or hardly could fix.

Thirdly. Self-mutilation ?! Are you fucking crazy?!?!?!
HOW MUCH DO YOU HATE YOURSELF TO DO THAT?!

Have some dignity and OWN who you are and what your body is, for once. Be proud of yourself.
I think most of us here know of this, and agree. Meteor however insists on delusion, so there's that. Free will, however botched in most people, is free will nontheless.

It's also well known fact that mutilating genitalia will damage sacral chakra. Again, if someone insists on doing such, all I've got to say is that you reap what you sow. As long as they do not spread this bullshit around we're good.

Jack said:
This is pretty good actually.
Yeah, your post reminded me of that. In my teens I grew up with music like that. :)
A lot of years ago when I was marginalized by Mageson and his lackeys ,I knew as a matter of absolute fact that in time this deranged ideology of the possibility of transgenderism was to be completely eradicated from this organization and we would have all those delusional freaks and those who support them would leave.

We've gotten more and more hardcore as Times go on and more intolerant to degeneracy as time goes on. I can say now with a sigh of relief that the time when all of the world would reject all of Jewish ideas will also someday come.

I envision a future where all nations would be completely intolerant and unaccepting of all Jewish scams. But it probably would take a lot longer ,realistically only after the Jews are permanently gone and the Alien spirit is unable to manifest anymore.
 
Jack said:
A lot of years ago when I was marginalized by Mageson and his lackeys ,I knew as a matter of absolute fact that in time this deranged ideology of the possibility of transgenderism was to be completely eradicated from this organization and we would have all those delusional freaks and those who support them would leave.

We've gotten more and more hardcore as Times go on and more intolerant to degeneracy as time goes on. I can say now with a sigh of relief that the time when all of the world would reject all of Jewish ideas will also someday come.

I envision a future where all nations would be completely intolerant and unaccepting of all Jewish scams. But it probably would take a lot longer ,realistically only after the Jews are permanently gone and the Alien spirit is unable to manifest anymore.
I am certain that even before complete eradication of alien ideas those dwelling in them will not be accepted into any kind of important role or position, or taken seriously by most people.

What you envision is truly possible and even during this century.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Henu the Great said:
tabby said:
jrvan said:
NinRick said:
VoiceofEnki said:
Meteor said:


I have something VERY important to add here that you may not have read at all or dismissed.

First off. Men and Women do NOT change gender. NEVER. This was already written a long time ago. Just like a human cannot be reincarnated as an animal an insect or a plant !!!!
This fact should be found on the website or in the library.

Secondly, in the old forums there was someone who did change "gender" and said that they regretted it sorely because of severe issues with the base / sacral chakra that they could not or hardly could fix.

Thirdly. Self-mutilation ?! Are you fucking crazy?!?!?!
HOW MUCH DO YOU HATE YOURSELF TO DO THAT?!

Have some dignity and OWN who you are and what your body is, for once. Be proud of yourself.

Yeap, no offence, but practicing self-mutilation, betting rid of your penis, just for another penis to enter where your penis was, is freaking unnatural and wrong.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Henu the Great said:
tabby said:
jrvan said:
NinRick said:
VoiceofEnki said:
Meteor said:


I have something VERY important to add here that you may not have read at all or dismissed.

First off. Men and Women do NOT change gender. NEVER. This was already written a long time ago. Just like a human cannot be reincarnated as an animal an insect or a plant !!!!
This fact should be found on the website or in the library.

Secondly, in the old forums there was someone who did change "gender" and said that they regretted it sorely because of severe issues with the base / sacral chakra that they could not or hardly could fix.

Thirdly. Self-mutilation ?! Are you fucking crazy?!?!?!
HOW MUCH DO YOU HATE YOURSELF TO DO THAT?!

Have some dignity and OWN who you are and what your body is, for once. Be proud of yourself.

I’m glad you said it straight and blunt.

If it weren’t for the side topic of intersex conditions and lies putting a wrench in my cogs, I would have long ago told Meteor the same as I did the trannies in the beginning (I guess that comment applied to him after all). I hate that surgery to be frank, but mistakenly, I thought there could be use for those who need it medically, such as extreme intersex conditions. However, such things won’t develop anyway to justify this in the future as we return to a healthier society, and now knowing that it impacts the chakras negatively I’ve changed my thoughts.

With the way of things right now, that surgery (and every idea surrounding it) is far too dangerous to be used even for any “legit” and “helpful” reasons. The enemy pays the doctors who do this to gentiles and promote it - that should be enough of a red flag as it is. The ones who want it are not responsible enough neither sane enough to be offered such a surgery, and I’m not making that mistake again of supporting anyone who wants it or saying it could be of benefit no matter the reason they give. It’s not worth the risk to ones soul and the risk of entertaining potentially crazy people and their unhealthy obsessions.

Fell into an interesting hole while searching up about breast health. Apparently, Meteor knows this fact himself already - by his own words from months ago.

So this whole thing is just even more ridiculous, and from other posts you can pick up on at least some of the things that he was slowly convinced by at some point along the way that he can “change his sex through magick”. I’m not sure where that thought solidifies into Meteor’s obsession or what caused it to do so, but the breadcrumbs of it are there once you realise what you’re looking at. He’d already begun experimenting with that idea since he came here it seems.

Going through just a few past comments, it’s a little disturbing picking up on the hidden messages that reveal how he openly thinks now. I’m starting to wonder if he’s really born intersex or if that ended up “developing” because he meddled with his body for so long with hormones and spells, after being unable to accept himself for years. Since his madness has been readily accepted by him to maintain his delusions, I’m thinking because of the insecurities, self esteem problems, and inability to properly satisfy his sexual preferences - this “intersex” condition may be as much of a delusion of his own making as the obsession itself to give a reason as to why he likes certain things and fix perceived appearance issues because of conditioned social expectations. The condition, regardless if he actually has it or not, has become a focused part of his identity as has the obsession. Worst part is the important details of the story have kept changing depending on what questions are being asked, how they are worded with energy and tone, and by whom - so sadly he’s been crafting up a narrative for himself for a while in order to explain why he hates being male and wants to be a “woman” instead of just facing himself.

This is something I think a lot of people can learn from. Magick and meditations are neutral tools, so if one directs them for use of feeding self destruction in this way because they haven’t dealt with inner issues, they are going to harm themselves. I’d think for any member new or old, it’s basic knowledge to not use the information on JoS for obvious and intentional self harm, and deliberately misunderstanding clear and concise messages of sermons and advice to mean you can overcome the natural laws of the world. These laws and limits are in place to prevent total chaos, remind us of what is true and avoid destroying ourselves over enemy created ideas. If you use the information and meditations from JoS inappropriately out of stupidity, then the consequences are your own to bare.

There are stories of the Gods changing sexes but these are allegorical to represent spiritual meanings and are not literal.

I guess that’s why I can’t muster up any anger over this anymore. It’s just saddening since many know with experience that facing truth, healing properly, and accepting yourself naturally directs you away from what you’re not suppose to be and should not do. You become your greatest ally instead of your worst enemy. Such insanity makes you a worse enemy to yourself than the actual kikes, imo.



Meteor said:

Nowadays all someone needs is "gender dysphoria", a persistent feeling of unhappiness about their biological sex, regardless of the reason behind it. It's far too flexible, and results in some people thinking it's some kind of miracle solution for their problems, only to be sorely disappointed after going through with it when they realise their problems were of a different nature. While most people don't make such drastic decisions before they consider it carefully, some people rush into it, and those who do often don't realise that things like hormones or surgery don't change their sex, only their body. They naturally blame their regret on others who didn't discourage them enough. Because they get a lot of attention, sometimes others overlook that there are also cases of people who are very happy with the changes to their body, as they never sought to change who or what they are and simply feel that their changed body suits them better because of how they already were deep down. …


Meteor said:
On a side note, when my friend told me that the Gods can change Their forms however They want, he gave examples such changing Their face, muscle definition, proportions, or even sexual organs if They wanted to for whatever reason. Basically, cosmetic changes for the most part, but without changing species. He also described it as a process that takes weeks to months. I don't know what his sources were, but he's been SS for far longer than I and brought more than a thousand people to this path, so personally I do consider him at least somewhat credible. I also have some minor experiences with biokinesis myself, and I think if those were to be taken to an extreme by the immense power of the Gods, even such things might be possible. …
 
Meteor said:
If my ambitions are incompatible with your paradigm, then all I can say is... Thank you for everything. Hail our Gods and Goddesses.

After everything that has been said to you on this, you still do not learn and apply any of the advice we gave you, yet you have the audacity to hail the Gods and Goddesses, this action coming from you is no different than giving them the middle finger, to shit on their care and advice and everything they stand for.

Right now, you can still turn things around, however if you cross the line and ruin yourself by taking that surgery, everything will be over for you.

The Gods cannot save one from a willing conscious decent into oblivion. What you are doing is entirely incompatible with the will of the Gods, thus you will be left to your own destruction if you cross the line.

No amount of begging or whining after that point wil get you any sympathy or help from them or anyone here, and your self destruction is all but guaranteed.

However, since that is what you desire, you can go and step into oblivion to see what it is like. Do not tell me later that I didn't warn you about what will happen.

Perhaps it will take you a decade to figure out how you are about to make the worst mistake in your entire existence, but if you go down this route there comes a time you will realize the error of your ways and become painfully aware of the fact you didn't listen to us when you had the chance.

Even I cannot imagine just how broken you will feel at that moment. Worst yet, there will be nothing you can do to rectify the damage that was done.

You will remember the words I told you at that time and wish you had listened to what I said, for it is far too late at that point to change anything anymore.
 
Meteor said:
After I finally have surgery, perhaps the person I used to be..
... will be more fucked up since your chakras would be damaged due to your body gets damaged.

You know I pointed out the freeing of the soul working with the intent that you would remove karma related to this nonsense that you spout by an actual viable method instead of what you are doing now. You said you burn karma by astral transformation combined with sex. Wtf? Who gave you such an idea to begin with? That is literally increasing your karma, the complete opposite what Munka does.

After all is said and done... You can not say you were not severely warned about the path you are on.
 
tabby said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
...
I have something VERY important to add here that you may not have read at all or dismissed.

First off. Men and Women do NOT change gender. NEVER. This was already written a long time ago. Just like a human cannot be reincarnated as an animal an insect or a plant !!!!
This fact should be found on the website or in the library.

Secondly, in the old forums there was someone who did change "gender" and said that they regretted it sorely because of severe issues with the base / sacral chakra that they could not or hardly could fix.

Thirdly. Self-mutilation ?! Are you fucking crazy?!?!?!
HOW MUCH DO YOU HATE YOURSELF TO DO THAT?!

Have some dignity and OWN who you are and what your body is, for once. Be proud of yourself.

I’m glad you said it straight and blunt.

If it weren’t for the side topic of intersex conditions and lies putting a wrench in my cogs, I would have long ago told Meteor the same as I did the trannies in the beginning (I guess that comment applied to him after all). I hate that surgery to be frank, but mistakenly, I thought there could be use for those who need it medically, such as extreme intersex conditions. However, such things won’t develop anyway to justify this in the future as we return to a healthier society, and now knowing that it impacts the chakras negatively I’ve changed my thoughts.

With the way of things right now, that surgery (and every idea surrounding it) is far too dangerous to be used even for any “legit” and “helpful” reasons. The enemy pays the doctors who do this to gentiles and promote it - that should be enough of a red flag as it is. The ones who want it are not responsible enough neither sane enough to be offered such a surgery, and I’m not making that mistake again of supporting anyone who wants it or saying it could be of benefit no matter the reason they give. It’s not worth the risk to ones soul and the risk of entertaining potentially crazy people and their unhealthy obsessions.

Fell into an interesting hole while searching up about breast health. Apparently, Meteor knows this fact himself already - by his own words from months ago.

So this whole thing is just even more ridiculous, and from other posts you can pick up on at least some of the things that he was slowly convinced by at some point along the way that he can “change his sex through magick”. I’m not sure where that thought solidifies into Meteor’s obsession or what caused it to do so, but the breadcrumbs of it are there once you realise what you’re looking at. He’d already begun experimenting with that idea since he came here it seems.

Going through just a few past comments, it’s a little disturbing picking up on the hidden messages that reveal how he openly thinks now. I’m starting to wonder if he’s really born intersex or if that ended up “developing” because he meddled with his body for so long with hormones and spells, after being unable to accept himself for years. Since his madness has been readily accepted by him to maintain his delusions, I’m thinking because of the insecurities, self esteem problems, and inability to properly satisfy his sexual preferences - this “intersex” condition may be as much of a delusion of his own making as the obsession itself to give a reason as to why he likes certain things and fix perceived appearance issues because of conditioned social expectations. The condition, regardless if he actually has it or not, has become a focused part of his identity as has the obsession. Worst part is the important details of the story have kept changing depending on what questions are being asked, how they are worded with energy and tone, and by whom - so sadly he’s been crafting up a narrative for himself for a while in order to explain why he hates being male and wants to be a “woman” instead of just facing himself.

This is something I think a lot of people can learn from. Magick and meditations are neutral tools, so if one directs them for use of feeding self destruction in this way because they haven’t dealt with inner issues, they are going to harm themselves. I’d think for any member new or old, it’s basic knowledge to not use the information on JoS for obvious and intentional self harm, and deliberately misunderstanding clear and concise messages of sermons and advice to mean you can overcome the natural laws of the world. These laws and limits are in place to prevent total chaos, remind us of what is true and avoid destroying ourselves over enemy created ideas. If you use the information and meditations from JoS inappropriately out of stupidity, then the consequences are your own to bare.

There are stories of the Gods changing sexes but these are allegorical to represent spiritual meanings and are not literal.

I guess that’s why I can’t muster up any anger over this anymore. It’s just saddening since many know with experience that facing truth, healing properly, and accepting yourself naturally directs you away from what you’re not suppose to be and should not do. You become your greatest ally instead of your worst enemy. Such insanity makes you a worse enemy to yourself than the actual kikes, imo.

...

These things happen easily if you engage with each other daily. Things go further and further and you get eased into it.
It is important to take distance from things and apply critical thinking.
Asking yourself weather or not things are really okay or not. And once you've made your decision, to stick firmly with it (not easy, I know).

I read the first couple of posts and was like "this is nonsense" tbh. I decided to check in on it later which basicly resulted in the above reaction.

Look, I mean, I dreamt my head got chopped off and witchcraft brought me back alive having my head on a male body this time.
Does that mean I should be a man? No. It felt weird too tbh.
 
Meteor said:
I still can't stop thinking about it.

I wondered if my situation was a case of a monstrous female ego devouring a male ego, changing even their body to make it suit her better. But I realise now that my split personality had nothing to do with gender, and that the reason why I became a monster, was because I needed the courage to do what I wanted. I still remember how my other self cried and reached out desperately for help, for someone to save me from the lonely, torturous and frightening situation I was in. That's when I reached out to myself, and promised that I would see everything through to the end or die trying, bearing everything until the nightmare is over and I feel ready to wake up again to see what reality has become against all odds.

It's since that day that I was met with endless success and progress. It's since that day that I truly abandoned reason, caution, fear and shame, and defied what people told me is "right", knowing that there's no room for hesitation, since I don't want to see myself cry anymore. Whether it's right or wrong, possible or impossible, I can only keep on pushing forward. That's all that I... no, the monster I've created in order to fulfil my wish, knows how to do.

After I finally have surgery, perhaps the person I used to be... the other side of me that is more reasonable, cautious, and sensitive to what others think, that didn't turn into a monster that will stop at nothing, will wake up and see what happened. Will I then feel a sense of relief and hopefulness, and stop being so afraid to live that I have to rely on an alternate personality to soak up my sorrows and fears? Will I let go of this monstrous side of me, so that I can finally heal instead of perpetually wounding myself with my reckless march? Or will the seams crack again as I realise that I still can't be a mother, and get crushed by the weight of the crimes I've committed against myself in order to get this far? Will I become a monster again before I have any chance to find peace?

I know, as a Satanist, that I shouldn't settle for half-measures. I shouldn't settle for less than I can be. Therefore, I have to know that I should still strive further, even after I have surgery to make things more bearable for now by creating a pleasant illusion. I still have to strive further, so that I can fulfil my dream of motherhood as well. If I give up before I even try, I'll never be able to forgive myself for breaking the promise I made to myself back then.

But... I hope that this time, I can at least manage to stay sane while I work towards my goals, even in the face of discouragement from others. I hope I can manage to stay calm in spite of everything, and work towards the things I want in a positive way, rather than forcing it so violently. That's all.

If my ambitions are incompatible with your paradigm, then all I can say is... Thank you for everything. Hail our Gods and Goddesses.

I'm about ready to call you a troll, Meteor.

You're a fucking adult, not a 2yr old protagonist living in a jew-run Hollywood show. Get your shit together. You've wasted weeks worth of everyone's time, gained a tonne of help, advice, and attention, and now you back hand us across the face with your stupidity and delusions all while claiming to be a Satanist. You haven't listened to a damn thing anyone has said and picked fights over stupid shit because you can't grow up and face reality.

The other trannies at least were out right honest that they were deranged. You lied about yourself, played as an SS, and act as if we're the ones who are pushing you out, but you're the only one holding a knife to your harness. If you cut that rope, we are not going to be there to catch you neither hold our hands out to you again, because you've had weeks worth of warnings. You yourself once said that you cannot change your sex with surgery and hormones months ago - wish I'd found that sooner.

You are such a coward and an insult to our people, it's not even funny.

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm not going to be holding my breath while you descend into a worthless nobody. What are you trying to prove to yourself or anyone else other than how retarded you are? You fear rejection and abandonment but you're the one rejecting everyone who could ever help you be fucking human, and if you ever wake up, you're going to wonder why you're alone and nobody wants to be around you except NPC's and microchipped goys.

You're about to jump ship to a life of slavery over this crap. Ironic, given you hate the enemy but are happy to be their little lab pet.
 
jrvan said:
In the interest of speaking to others in Meteor's situation in the future like VoE said, I'll leave this comment here even though I won't be speaking again to Meteor like I already stated.

There is nothing wrong with having traits, characteristics, or even behavior that is associated with females. It's okay to be nurturing, it's okay to be passive, submissive, or anything like that as a man. You don't necessarily have to be dominant, and there are other roles you can fill in society which will make your unique energies feel comfortable. You can be however you want outside the box of traditional norms. Recently I was at the hospital and there was a male nurse taking care of me, and he had amazing bedside manner. Later on someone commented on the ride home that he was effeminate and made fun of him for it, but I really appreciated the man's energy and gentleness and I know I would prefer that over a cold doctor with no feminine touch.

Going a step further, I myself plan to wear makeup in the future when I can afford it. After all, K-pop stars wear makeup and they get more access to pussy than a porn star. I believe it will make me look and feel better, and I want to look my best in society. Women aren't the only ones who can doll themselves up.

It's my soul's temple and I get to choose how I decorate it, and I don't care what other people think of me for it. If they don't like my temple then too bad, and they don't have to live in it. I support cross-dressing for this reason too.

However, I'm not going to do something retarded like chop my dick off and become a eunuch because that would ruin my temple as well as damage my soul, and I'm not retarded enough to think I can edit my soul's natural gender in order to suit a mutilated temple like that. Rejecting my soul's natural gender would also be the opposite of Satanic because I wouldn't be accepting the truth of who I am and what my soul is.

Anyone going through this in the future, take it as a lesson by observing Meteor's trip to oblivion. Take your Satanic soul seriously and don't choose self destruction. And if you do choose self destruction then don't act like your actions are Satanic in the least.
IMO black eyeliner and black nailpolish on guys can be hot in good taste. Maybe try it for tabby :D. My ex wanted the whole shabang tho which was not cute after awhile. just me
 
Meteor said:
tabby said:
Everything I wrote has been my honest feelings and beliefs; I relayed them as I tried my best to dig them up no matter how painful it was, and tried my best to understand them. Each time I thought I understood, I found another layer beneath, complicating it even more. All I understood in the end is "I don't understand". I feel like I'm wrong, and I feel like others are wrong. If everything and everyone is wrong, then I don't know what's right.

That the energy and tone felt different, is because I'm mentally unstable. When I become too stressed, my personality suddenly changes in an unpredictable way. I hope I can manage to overcome that somehow. It's happened a lot lately as obsessing over this topic so much has been very stressful for me.

I still appreciate the tips you gave me on sewing. I regret causing you to worry so much by mindlessly vomiting the repressed contents of my mind on this forum, even though it felt good to let it out. I think it's probably good if you hate me. I really hope it makes you feel better, and I'm sorry for wasting your time.

I just enjoyed the social aspect of this place. I haven't had any intentions besides that. It just felt nice to chat about random things, I suppose, and some of the things I read made me feel inspired. And I liked the sense of camaraderie between people here. But if I'm in such a bad place mentally and can't even bring myself to hide it anymore in order to fit in, then I'm probably not deserving of anyone's kindness here. Even so, I'll still partake when I feel like it.

So i have skimmed through this thread and read some replies including one of Meteors very long ones. It seems to me Meteor that you have been conditioned into thinking you have to be female in order to basically get other men to want you sexually and romantically. This is what i have gathered from your documented experiences here so far. There are a lot of homosexual men here who will tell you that you do not have to be a woman to have a decent relationship with a man if you are gay. If another man rejects you because he is straight it just means that he is not right for you, that simple. Your trying to change for them this way at such great lengths shows an issue with trying to find validation from others out of obsession (that could have to do with venus aspects to pluto with fatal attractions also) The fact that you are with someone who loves you for trying to be a woman and thus sees you as such is only feeding your conditioned belief that the one who is really for you is only going to love you if you are seen as a woman. Allowing yourself to live this way is in denial of your actual soul and you will never advance.

I reached out to you in an email just now trying to tell you not to be chased away from here. But despite the words of others sounding harsh here its actually harsh reality. My ex boyfriend thought he was transgender for YEARS and wanted surgery, and later did a 180. he was on hormones too and that messed him up psychologically big time. Imagine if he would have given in. And he claimed to have these feelings since childhood. He just woke up one day.

These feelings of feeling like you are in the wrong body come from what you just listed from your experiences like rejection for not being the opposite sex. This can manifest in many ways such as what you just listed, as well as the opposite sex parent rejecting the child for not being born as the same sex as them, amoug being told constantly throughout life that your sex is inferior which is rampant in abrahamic filth. All these disturbing notions do not mean you are in the wrong body or mean surgery. The body is a manifestation of the soul. IF you have a dick and balls your soul is male and no amount of dross blocking your vision from trauma will change that.

If you listen to what probable enemy entities are telling you to basically mutilate your body i guarantee you will regret it. There are 2 genders that is it. All else is mental illness. And this isn't me being a butthole, its trying to save you from ruining yourself.

People here are bitching because they care. Tabby just went off and im sure its because of just that. Jrvan was just saying how she kept going on about you for sometime it seems. Family will get pissed if they see a member doing self harm and this is the way that works. We don't want to watch you self destruct. Analize the reasons you just gave for having this conditioning happen to you and organize a freeing the soul working to start out with....i feel for perhaps longer than 90 days.
 
Shadowcat said:
jrvan said:
In the interest of speaking to others in Meteor's situation in the future like VoE said, I'll leave this comment here even though I won't be speaking again to Meteor like I already stated.

There is nothing wrong with having traits, characteristics, or even behavior that is associated with females. It's okay to be nurturing, it's okay to be passive, submissive, or anything like that as a man. You don't necessarily have to be dominant, and there are other roles you can fill in society which will make your unique energies feel comfortable. You can be however you want outside the box of traditional norms. Recently I was at the hospital and there was a male nurse taking care of me, and he had amazing bedside manner. Later on someone commented on the ride home that he was effeminate and made fun of him for it, but I really appreciated the man's energy and gentleness and I know I would prefer that over a cold doctor with no feminine touch.

Going a step further, I myself plan to wear makeup in the future when I can afford it. After all, K-pop stars wear makeup and they get more access to pussy than a porn star. I believe it will make me look and feel better, and I want to look my best in society. Women aren't the only ones who can doll themselves up.

It's my soul's temple and I get to choose how I decorate it, and I don't care what other people think of me for it. If they don't like my temple then too bad, and they don't have to live in it. I support cross-dressing for this reason too.

However, I'm not going to do something retarded like chop my dick off and become a eunuch because that would ruin my temple as well as damage my soul, and I'm not retarded enough to think I can edit my soul's natural gender in order to suit a mutilated temple like that. Rejecting my soul's natural gender would also be the opposite of Satanic because I wouldn't be accepting the truth of who I am and what my soul is.

Anyone going through this in the future, take it as a lesson by observing Meteor's trip to oblivion. Take your Satanic soul seriously and don't choose self destruction. And if you do choose self destruction then don't act like your actions are Satanic in the least.
IMO black eyeliner and black nailpolish on guys can be hot in good taste. Maybe try it for tabby :D. My ex wanted the whole shabang tho which was not cute after awhile. just me

I want to try lots of different polish colors. I'm keen on orange at the moment, but I want to try a bit of everything eventually. I'll get into the makeup game one day, but I have a lot to learn starting from ground zero. I barely know half of the stuff they put on the face. I know a few terms like foundation, blush, liner, shadow, mascara, concealer... and that's about it. And I don't know what most of them even are :lol:
Still, it's a goal. I want to learn more and see what works for me. Tabby said pink lipstick might be better than red for me, and I guess that's a start.

On a side note, I found this randomly tonight: https://hearthackersclub.com/11-differences-dating-european-man-vs-american-man/
4. European men are comfortable with women, which leads to respect for women. Perhaps this has to do with their upbringing, where it’s very normal for boys and girls to play and intermingle together. They grow up developing friendships with the opposite sex and in turn, develop more empathy and understanding of the opposite sex. In American culture, there is a clear segregation of the sexes, boys play with boys and do boy things and girls do the same. Then these boys grow up and are exposed to the opposite sex in an abrupt, often sexualized way. The consequence of this is a lack of understanding of women, a lack of comfort and often, a lack of respect.

Might help someone, idk :|
 
Meteor you just admitted that if the Gods do not approve of this course of action, of you doing that surgery, you say goodbye to them, as you are very bold also in stating that you disassemble and assemble nature itself for that cause. If I understood falsely please let me know.

I know our SS here, and I as well would sacrifice even their own tree of life in order for the Gods to succeed here on their Earth. We make sacrifices for ourselves, everything we do, with utmost passion and love from the heart and soul. Ultimately looking for a continuum of existentialism besides our Gods. Yet after all of this you yell out loud that if you do not mutilate yourself you won't be accepting anything of what this reality entails. Arrogantly shitting on everybody who has a right to care for you.

It is our right to care for you, to fight you to become better. Yet no one can make you have discernment, and more importantly, nobody can take away from you to have "liberty". No one ever.

Everyone has the liberty to choose life or death, even though not everyone knows which is which. What I know for sure, is that a passion such as yours for this wasn't seen publicly for our causes, such as disassembling nature for the demise of our enemies. I haven't seen something more than a samsaric ego and pursuit took to the extreme to the demise of the cause itself. Nobody sane wants bad health for themselves, and that is pure normality, yet somehow people are in search of bad health, and this comes from the hollow of ones soul, attracting anything for it to be identified with, as a hole needs a fitting answer.
 
Meteor said:

Then I misunderstood you, and also you misunderstood my points. There's too much lyricism and philosophy relating to what is factual and logic, brute, and cold, reality. You idealize an abstract future, which is your own desire to actualize yourself in this world, only mistranslated and grossly used. There are some other factual spiritual points relating to the process of the Serpent and other consciousness-based interactions, that have a requirement for the individual to love themselves and truly discover the sun within. I think you have enough opinions and help, seeing the number of replies and I also think everybody should focus on the present schedule and on things that actually grow ourselves. Less about talk more about action. I hope to see you grow as time grows.
 
Fanboy said:
long post ahead may want to skip
...

I knew you were thebigcheese6million. I knew it all along. I was waiting for you to show your ugly colors. I was so angry having to watch you post while seeing what you did to Astarte's sacred sigil. That's not your sigil to do with what you want. I've wanted to say this to you for a while so thanks for providing the opportunity.

And some more because you've earned it. I'm going to direct my RTR's for today directly at you, you rat. You've gotten me worked up into a frenzy with your lying about Astarte and all of our Gods. This is what you get for daring to talk like some expert with your bullshit. You made this personal for me, and I'm going to be sending more RTR's your way after today whenever I feel the IMPULSE. Because I know what you are. I'm not going to pretend any longer that you're even a gentile let alone a Satanist. You're going to burn like the rest of your kind.

Your existence is empty, you belong nowhere. Meteor belongs in a straitjacket because he's a danger to himself, and his parents should have already had him declared mentally insane and taken charge of his care or sent him to an institution, and they should still do so now - all the proof they would need is right here on these forums with Meteor's two accounts. As for you though... you will be shown no mercy in this world or any other world. Your time is nearly out. Enjoy what precious little time you have left to loose blasphemies and lies from your lizard lips.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
These things happen easily if you engage with each other daily. Things go further and further and you get eased into it.
It is important to take distance from things and apply critical thinking.
Asking yourself weather or not things are really okay or not. And once you've made your decision, to stick firmly with it (not easy, I know).

I read the first couple of posts and was like "this is nonsense" tbh. I decided to check in on it later which basicly resulted in the above reaction.

Look, I mean, I dreamt my head got chopped off and witchcraft brought me back alive having my head on a male body this time.
Does that mean I should be a man? No. It felt weird too tbh.

You’re right on that.

It’s not the first time giving the benefit of the doubt has turned around to bite me harder than I’d like. But at least I’m not bleeding this time, munka and healing is helping to gain little by little more control… long way to go though.


Shadowcat said:


People here are bitching because they care. Tabby just went off and im sure its because of just that. Jrvan was just saying how she kept going on about you for sometime it seems. Family will get pissed if they see a member doing self harm and this is the way that works. We don't want to watch you self destruct. Analize the reasons you just gave for having this conditioning happen to you and organize a freeing the soul working to start out with....i feel for perhaps longer than 90 days.

There are traits in myself that I see in Meteor, and such traits when out of control can ruin so much of your life and self. I had a "wish"/obsession once as well and as mentioned in a previous comment, it led me straight into a cult because I couldn't let go and desperately wanted to make it happen. I was in pain, and my own obsession was an escape from my trauma and pain... I thought back then if I could reach that one thing, then everything would be better and I'd get to live the way I want to without anyone holding me back. I made a promise to my younger self I couldn't keep realistically because it wasn't possible outside the realm of dreams. I had to let go and face the truth, or my life was going to be the price. I had all kinds of magick done on me from the cult brainwashing me into believing that it would bring me closer to what I wanted to achieve, brainwashing me against even the most basic morals and ethics.

I see the same pattern in Meteor. The sad part is, he’s doing it to himself instead of a cult toying with his mind and soul. I pegged it in an earlier comment before he said it himself, but he has done magick to attempt to biokinetically turn himself into a “woman”. He hasn’t been using magick for healing like we’re trying to tell him to do. In his mind that reads as a different flavour, to him it means to continue trying to alter himself by removing the part of himself that is actually real and replace it with his insanity because he firmly believes that means “healing himself”.

Pain fueling a chosen escape that isn't possible, and because of the pain he can't stop. It's like watching someone walk in my old shoes, and knowing the outcome is nothing but more pain far far worse than what you already have gone through. They don’t listen to logic, reason, truth, or anything sane, because that’s how bad the pain is and they see no other way to overcome it even if their way will lead to their death.

I snapped at Meteor as a last ditch because I didn't listen to reason either. If it weren’t for jrvan waking me up… well, you know how it would have ended. People in that state have no ability to wake up alone, especially when there are others close to them who reinforce their insanity, and you just don't know what's going to be the trigger to wake them up. It's exhausting trying to find it. The answer is completely obvious to us, but to those like that... all they can see is blackness and their obsession. Nothing else matters to them, not even the people in their life. It’s a state of pure insanity, and as you can see, Meteor readily accepts that he’s insane but continues like a zombie to his grave.

I had a similar problem with gender, albeit no way near as extreme. I wasn't what my parents wanted. My father wanted a son and my mother wanted me to be straight and independent, so I was treated like a guy most of the time. When I discovered I was bisexual, I already had a hard enough time as it was attracting guys, and when it came to the girls, the ones I crushed on were all straight :lol: that's how it is sometimes, but I never once considered a sex change to be a solution to overcoming any kind of problem, especially not pain.

You get rejected no matter if you're a man or woman. I’ve been bullied needlessly by class mates, picked on for anything they could think to pick on me for, and when I was abandoned by the few friends I had, I fell into depression and I was suicidal for a while - which didn’t help when I came face to face with that cult, since I was already down.

You move on eventually, and the scars heal. But you can’t do that while drowning in a pit of your own self torment. Unfortunately in Meteor’s case, it’s going to take more than just us shouting at him to wake up. That’s how deep the insanity goes, and only when you’re about to lose something that’s more important to you than your desires and obsession, do you finally wake up and change… if they even have anything that’s more important in their eyes. Meteor doesn’t even have the desire to live. His fiancé walking away from him may be the only thing that would wake him up… and I doubt that would ever be a possibility until it’s already too late.

He has one path out of his pain and the rest are leading him to suicide… and he can only see the suicidal paths. Once he has that surgery, the path out of his pain is going to disappear, but that doesn’t matter to people who are this deep in insanity.
 
Meteor said:
I still can't stop thinking about it.

For fuck sake Meteor please dont do this stuff, you know it well that shitty surgery will not allow you to became a female, it will make you into a mutant, if you change your gender through today means it will only desfigure your body, that vagina they will make for you will be nothing more than a disgusting wound and the body will treat it that way always trying to close it (i seen a disgusting process that these kind of people have).
To tell the truth i didn't read all of your posts so maybe you responded to this type of persuasion as well.

But... still, you know it too, it will not change what's in your DNA and it will only fuckt up your soul, if you do it who knows, maybe you will have a temporarily satisfaction but that will change when you will reach a certain level in spirituality and see what have you done to your body and soul, and guess what, that is something you will not be able to change...
Here.. forgive me if i haven't payed attention to all of your responses but could be that you want to be a women because you re a man with more womenly type of energies, then sure but that does not mean that you need to go this far. Cant you make a ritual where you plead the Gods for help?

There are so many people who do this unholy practice and then they regret it their whole life!
 
Meteor said:
NinRick said:
If you knew that this course you are heading would destroy you and do devastating damage, would you still follow your desires?

If I believe there is even the slightest chance of success, I will. If there's truly is no chance, then I can't bear to live, so I will.
I've made peace with the knowledge that I will either fulfil my dream, die a second death trying, or die a second death giving up.
I was fully prepared from the start to end it all if I failed. So far, I haven't faced failure, so I still trudge onward to this day.

You say you haven't experienced failure, however, this entire course of action, the entire basis upon which you decide self ruination, constitutes failure of the greatest magnitude.

The past 5 years, you haven't grown or advanced in any way, only walking in circles and even regressing because you failed to address your karmic dross. Your entire path as a Spiritual Satanist, and by extension, your continued existence, has ended in absolute failure so far unless you wisen up before you go through with your stupid decision.


Myself, Henu, Naked Pluto, even HP HoodedCobra and others have all told you that your ideas of changing gender are nothing but a self destructive tendency which has absolutely no possibility of succeeding.

Whatever you believe is entirely irrelevant, people who know things you cannot even imagine have already given you the straight answer to allow you to pass this destructive passage which is guaranteed to kill your soul when walked.

If you still walk it, it is worse than committing suicide, as the person who commits suicide won't spend a lifetime worsening their delusions and karmic dross so they may with the right help be able to change their destiny around in a next life.

As for you, while under normal circumstances it may be plausible you can have a chance in your next life to remove these delusions and finally face reality, likely you will end up solidifying this karma so heavily that the prospect of healing from it and finding a path to eternity is impossible.

Even with this chance presented to you this life by finding the Joy of Satan this early on in our development, you still refused to apply the powerful methods available to you to heal yourself and break the chains of karmic dross binding you.

For a soul to come upon the Joy of Satan earnestly, and then consciously reject it after being exposed to the ultimate truth for an extended period of time, even practicing true Spiritual Satanism for some time, yet still turn their back to it in favor of personal delusion, is exceptionally damning for the individual making this choice, as you purposefully close your eyes to reality after having seen it, which scars the soul deep as this (rejecting reality in favor of personal delusion at any cost) is now part of your karmic experience.

You may read this and entertain the thought that you aren't rejecting the Joy of Satan, however this is another idiotic delusion you enjoy telling yourself, as the very act of refusing to apply any methods in a legitimate attempt to heal your mind and soul from the karmic dross holding you back is a rejection of the Satanic Spirit on the most fundamental level.

The original cause for the ancient spiritual schools was the advancement of human beings on Earth, to educate the people on the wisdom and knowledge of the Gods as well as the knowledge of true spirituality in order to allow all human beings on Earth to finish the great work and become as the Gods.

Bringing this back and giving people once again the chance and ability to advance and learn from the Gods is the primary purpose of the Joy of Satan besides our mission to destroy the Jews and other corrosive elements that stain our beautiful world.

Advancement means to grow, to grow one needs to walk forward on a path that leads to growth, this can only be done by accepting reality and truth, to grow your current self by acknowledging your faults and weaknesses as well as your struggles, and then to overcome these with the spiritual methods available so nothing impedes your growth as you move forward.

Trying to advance based on delusion is entirely impossible, the fact you consciously decided to remain ignorant of truth because you do not like the truth, is a direct rejection of the Satanic Spirit on a fundamental level.

Indeed, you have actively and consciously rejected the Gods, and the Joy of Satan through your course of action presented here.


You are weak and pathetic.

Choosing delusion in favor of truth despite all the knowledge you are exposed to.

Only the most pathetic of people hold on so dearly to delusions and fantasies and refuse to accept reality as it is, or even acknowledge it, for doing so would shatter their entire perception about life and their self, by extension it would shatter their low level "ego" and force them to re-evaluate their entire existence.

Something the weak person who favors delusion over reality is far too terrified or pathetic to do.

This reprogramming of ones perception is a necessary thing for anyone that comes to Spiritual Satanism.

Everyone who comes from without has various levels of false beliefs and unwitting delusion on their mind, which one clears out as one meditates and reprograms the mind to be in tune with the Spiritual Satanic truth and wisdom we come to understand through association with our Gods and their knowledge they grant to us.

The person who willingly rejects this, does not belong here. They have absolutely no place in our midst.


Not to mention, for you to reject all the advice from the Gods and ignore their attempts at helping you entirely, just disregarding them in totality while damning yourself, does not sit well with any of them.

Whether they will decide to give you another chance in another life and spend time and effort on you again, is doubtful after you make a conscious decision to ignore them totally this life, since there are plenty of worthy souls out there who sincerely seek their wisdom, knowledge and seek to complete the great work as intended by the Gods, rather than misuse all the knowledge and power they share to further their own delusions and dive headfirst into the abyss of complete nonexistence.


As a side note, your boyfriend is also partially responsible for enabling you and driving you into oblivion by supporting your delusion and insanity.

Had you not been with him, you'd have been in a far better state of being right now, as you wouldn't have had external influences around you further empowering your delusions and leading you deeper into this path of self destruction.

This person whom you said you were so happy to have met, is one of the most toxic and harmful influences in your entire life, directly enabling you to destroy your path to the MO and your path as a Spiritual Satanist.

Since you don't listen to anything that is said, I take this moment to lay the hard facts you do not want to hear out for you, since you should at least be aware of all your faults and errors as you descent into nothingness, you owe that to yourself.

Stop being an absolute idiot Meteor. There is nothing in this world that is worth destroying your soul over, no matter what you feel or think.

Hail Satan!
 
Meteor said:
If I believe there is even the slightest chance of success, I will. If there's truly is no chance, then I can't bear to live, so I will.
I don’t think you realize how unhinged this sounds. It’s like deciding to jump off a bridge and saying “if there’s the slightest chance of success I’ll do it”. Please ground yourself everyone is very concerned about you.
 
I also want to say, there has never been any Spiritual Satanist who went full third sex gender change nonsense mode and succeeded in any way.

All those who went and stayed on hormones with intent to change their physical gender expression failed on this path in a few years. They all lost their minds and went ape-shit on the forum, eventually leaving and never to be seen again.

Let alone those who go further and mutilate their body to live a disgusting and dysfunctional fantasy.

There have been no SS that went that far and are still around, or have any real prospect of success as SS in the future.

People that go that far who had identified as SS before will have long rejected the core essence of Spiritual Satanism before they ever underwent surgery, living in a fantasy and practicing an imaginary form of Spiritual Satanism, if any at all.

One cannot consciously decide to mutilate their body and live in total rejection of themselves while succeeding as a Spiritual Satanist.

It never happens and cannot happen. Since this whole notion is entirely antithetical to the core essence of Spiritual Satanism, which is about understanding the self and growing the greatest self through spiritual empowerment, study and expanding ones consciousness to gain true enlightenment and wisdom, which later all comes together to allow one to complete the great work and reach the Godhead.

All of that is achieved through ones own power, ones mind, soul and body, as the key to all of this is already within the self. External measures are not required to succeed here.

The right steps need to be taken to allow a practitioner to uncover this key and build the necessary power and wisdom to use it.

Confusion about the self is fixed internally, rather than through external means of changing the physical being in order to shape it in the image of your wishful delusion.

You match the mind up with your body, and you can use the sound and healthy mind to help your body transform into a more ideal state, through Yoga, exercise and other healthy practices that improve the quality of ones body as well as the image.

The body that you are born with is what you have.

Any deficiencies or damage can be fixed through various methods, and if things like actual birth defects are present then obviously it can be looked into what physical methods are available to heal these, but fundamentally changing the body one is born with is a flawed and impossible idea as the body you have is what you are meant to have at this time.

If someone consciously and purposefully ruins themselves, obviously they will not be able to uncover anything within or reach any kind of enlightenment since they do not care for any of this, they only care about their own idiotic low ego driven desires regardless of where this leads them.

Gender reassignment surgery, gender confusion, or even third sex nonsense has no place on the ladder of spiritual advancement. These are things that will completely destroy someone's path either long term of short term.

At one point or another, someone that believes or experiences such things who seriously practices SS, comes to realize for themselves they need to free themselves from this one way or another in order to truly advance or have any prospect of reaching the Godhead.

Hail Satan!
 
I know that I have been using the term "She/Her" when describing me and my girlfriend but in truth we are "transgender female". I have been considering the idea if one could change themselves from male to female or female to male. I have never considered or agreed to the idea of cutting of one's genitals in some botched surgery to look like the other gender though. I will simply ask if that is also what the Gods have said as far as the notion of switching gender being wrong and not a thing that can be done and if that is the case then I apologize to every SS member here and to Satan and his Demons for indulging in such a notion as I have and we will be willing to change from it and accept the reality of who and what we are.
 
Fanboy said:
cobras gonna karate kick me if he sees this

You knew this, yet still wrote such nonsense anyway. What are you trying to do?

Do not insult and defame Goddess Inanna by making strange claims about her that have absolutely no truth to them.

I'll be honest with you, Inanna absolutely does not support transgenderism in any way whatsoever. She refuses the whole notion of it, as do any of the other Gods.

No single God will ever help anyone change gender in any capacity.

Any SS who is a little psychically open can ask her themselves, and if indeed you are psychically open enough to hear Inanna, you will hear her absolute rejection of this corruption of the human soul and being.

Do not ever put words in the mouth of the Gods again when you know nothing.

Hail Satan!
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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