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Reminder in regards to the upcoming election in the US- remember what the enemy does.

Neither party will take our side into any consideration at all. That is not what we are expecting either, we know this won't happen.

The main difference that you need to look out for here, and the defining difference between trump and kamala as presidential candidates is that kamala will be nothing but a complete doormat as a president, who when she is in charge will do exactly to the letter what the jews and nwo want without question. A total puppet. Just like with biden, she won't be in any control and wont exercise any authoroty of her own whatsoever, just a tool for the jews to get a free pass to get done whatever they wanted.

She will send any amount of military and monetary aid to pissrael immediately when asked, without any consideration for anything else, she will merely do what she is asked, and even if she would want it to be otherwise, she doesn't have the capacity to do otherwise.

Trump on the other hand is a man with personality, who is not a complete doormat that will do what the jew asks of him without any questions or considerations of his own. He has a clear vision and ideals himself, and he has proven to be unfavorable to war, which is basically the best you can hope for from an American president at the moment.

What you need to realize is, what do the jews want from america right now?

They want the big american balls to come flying and rolling down en mass with tens of thousands of soldiers and billions of dollars of military investment, to fight Iran and the middle eastern block on their behalf, to create their "greater israel". Now that pissrael is engaging in material conflicts, they require american balls to come bail them out as usual. Without them, they are destitute. Not just american balls, but also american dollars. They want america to be the loyal attack dog and loyal slave, bailing them out and taking on all the karma for them, deflecting everything that is coming down onto the jews and onto pissrael, onto america instead.

Kamala cannot be expected to do anything less than mobilize all the presidential powers she would gain in full and unquestioning support for pissrael immediately, aiding them however possible. Trump on the other hand is not as easily convinced by them to do the same. This is why the Gods intervened and did not let him get killed when they attempted to kill him twice.

Not because trump is a great man of valour respected by the powers of Hell, but because trump is a man who puts a wrench in the jewish agenda and is not a well oiled cog in their machine. He proves to be an obstacle for the jews and they do not want him around. The jews know this and they also know that trump is being protected by forces out of their reach, for these reasons, so they are trying to placate him now in preparation of the future in case he does get elected.

He is someone the jews would have to invest considerable time and effort in to make him do what they want out of him, far more so than kamala, which would slow everything down for the jews, even if ultimately he ends up committed to pissrael regardless. What we and what the world needs at the moment is for any support to pissrael to freeze, for them to be left destitute and on their own. Time is not on their side, so any delays are extremely damning for the jews. This is why trump is the better candidate from our perspective. Nothing else really matters here, as it is irrelevant to the bigger picture at play at the moment.

This is also why you see pissraeli's and jews "placating" trump, because they know if trump is to be president, the only way they will really get anything from him is to placate him to some degree. For kamala, they don't need to do anything. She is worthless. Cannot and won't stand up to them in any way. Like biden, total doormat.

However, make no mistake. Trump is not on our side at all, he is not our "friend". However, we need to look at the bigger picture and have realistic expectations.
It is not even about picking a lesser evil, it is about having a president that doesn't give pissrael what they want completely for free at the expense of America without question.

Voting for kamala is the same as completely signing your country off to the jews. Democrats are worthless when it comes to this. Even a xian america is better at the moment than a multicultural cesspool that licks the filthy jew ass like a slave at their beckoning without question.
 
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On average, Obama and Bush deported more people than Trump. Let that sink in...


Neither party will take our side into any consideration at all. That is not what we are expecting either, we know this won't happen.

The main difference that you need to look out for here, and the defining difference between trump and kamala as presidential candidates is that kamala will be nothing but a complete doormat as a president, who when she is in charge will do exactly to the letter what the jews and nwo want without question. A total puppet. Just like with biden, she won't be in any control and wont exercise any authoroty of her own whatsoever, just a tool for the jews to get a free pass to get done whatever they wanted.

She will send any amount of military and monetary aid to pissrael immediately when asked, without any consideration for anything else, she will merely do what she is asked, and even if she would want it to be otherwise, she doesn't have the capacity to do otherwise.

Trump on the other hand is a man with personality, who is not a complete doormat that will do what the jew asks of him without any questions or considerations of his own. He has a clear vision and ideals himself, and he has proven to be unfavorable to war, which is basically the best you can hope for from an American president at the moment.

What you need to realize is, what do the jews want from america right now?

They want the big american balls to come flying and rolling down en mass with tens of thousands of soldiers and billions of dollars of military investment, to fight Iran and the middle eastern block on their behalf, to create their "greater israel". Now that pissrael is engaging in material conflicts, they require american balls to come bail them out as usual. Without them, they are destitute. Not just american balls, but also american dollars. They want america to be the loyal attack dog and loyal slave, bailing them out and taking on all the karma for them, deflecting everything that is coming down onto the jews and onto pissrael, onto america instead.

Kamala cannot be expected to do anything less than mobilize all the presidential powers she would gain in full and unquestioning support for pissrael immediately, aiding them however possible. Trump on the other hand is not as easily convinced by them to do the same. This is why the Gods intervened and did not let him get killed when they attempted to kill him twice.

Not because trump is a great man of valour respected by the powers of Hell, but because trump is a man who puts a wrench in the jewish agenda and is not a well oiled cog in their machine. He proves to be an obstacle for the jews and they do not want him around. The jews know this and they also know that trump is being protected by forces out of their reach, for these reasons, so they are trying to placate him now in preparation of the future in case he does get elected.

He is someone the jews would have to invest considerable time and effort in to make him do what they want out of him, far more so than kamala, which would slow everything down for the jews, even if ultimately he ends up committed to pissrael regardless. What we and what the world needs at the moment is for any support to pissrael to freeze, for them to be left destitute and on their own. Time is not on their side, so any delays are extremely damning for the jews. This is why trump is the better candidate from our perspective. Nothing else really matters here, as it is irrelevant to the bigger picture at play at the moment.

This is also why you see pissraeli's and jews "placating" trump, because they know if trump is to be president, the only way they will really get anything from him is to placate him to some degree. For kamala, they don't need to do anything. She is worthless. Cannot and won't stand up to them in any way. Like biden, total doormat.

However, make no mistake. Trump is not on our side at all, he is not our "friend". However, we need to look at the bigger picture and have realistic expectations.
It is not even about picking a lesser evil, it is about having a president that doesn't give pissrael what they want completely for free at the expense of America without question.

Voting for kamala is the same as completely signing your country off to the jews. Democrats are worthless when it comes to this. Even a xian america is better at the moment than a multicultural cesspool that licks the filthy jew ass like a slave at their beckoning without question.
 
On average, Obama and Bush deported more people than Trump. Let that sink in...

Yes. And how much did that help to alleviate the jewish agenda?

Do not forget that it was during the bush administration that 9/11 happened. What kind of irrelevant thing are these meaningless deportations?
Or the amount of military support and actions taken in support of pissrael during the obama administration.
 
And if you want to say, he did all his deporting in 2020!!!!

"•Administrative and Criminal Arrests: Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, in March 2020,ICE ERO temporarily adjusted its enforcement posture to narrowly focus enforcement efforts on public safety risks and individuals subject to mandatory detention based on criminal grounds. In FY 2020 ICE ERO conducted 103,603 administrative arrests, a 28percent decline from FY 2019, and 90 percent of those arrested had criminal convictions or pending criminal charges at the time of arrest.

In addition to arresting aliens for administrative violations of the immigration laws, ICEERO also conducts criminal arrests and assists with pursuing prosecutions related to such criminal activity. In FY 2020, ICE ERO enforcement activities resulted in 4,360 criminal arrests, 4,479 criminal charges, and 5,397 convictions.

• ICE Detainers: In FY 2020, ICE ERO issued 122,233 detainers, a 26 percent decline from FY 2019. This was likely impacted by decreased numbers of individuals in state and local custody nationwide, ICE’s own temporary reduction in enforcement activity early in the pandemic, an increasing number of jurisdictions that do not cooperate with immigration enforcement activities, and court rulings limiting ICE’s ability to lodge detainers.

• Removals: ICE ERO conducted 185,884 removals during FY 2020, a 30 percent decrease from FY 2019. This decrease primarily resulted from a sharp decline in CBP apprehensions at the Southwest Border due to the use of authority under 42 U.S.C. §§265 and 268 to expel aliens from the United States to prevent the introduction of COVID19, though it was also impacted by a decline in ICE ERO interior arrests. The vast majority of ICE ERO’s interior removals – 92 percent – had criminal convictions or pending criminal charges, demonstrating ICE ERO’s commitment to removing those who pose the greatest risk to the safety and security of the United States. Additionally, despite the overall decrease in removals, ICE ERO assisted CBP with 17,000 air charter"

All this proves is that Obama is what the left accuses Trump of doing during his presidency.

Knowledge is good but it means nothing and sometimes even detrimental if you don't use wisdom but just take everything at face value. No different than someone with a high level degree but is completely Spiritually unawakened and is trying to read about our Ancestral Gods.

Did you not see how many times Trump was stopped by the Left during his presidency? The Supreme Court blocked him from taking away the Dreamers Act. This is one example but a huge one to look at. It's like saying he doesn't want to do anything about the border because he wasn't on board with the Border Wall bill but everyone who says this leaves that the bill would grant amnesty to illegal aliens and other nonsense. Plus he already had an effective policy that biden took away on day one. There's so much context being left out in your above point.
 
Now that you're being a little more "level headed". Let's talk about deportations under Trump, and where the fuck you get your info.

These are ICE deportations. https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/yearbook/2019/table39

I am trying to be Civil, but I get the feeling someone isn't quite being authentic....
On average, Obama and Bush deported more people than Trump. Let that sink in...



Notice how you aren't posting the amount of people who entered during the Trump presidency. It was less because of his Stay In Mexico Policy.
 
Yes. And how much did that help to alleviate the jewish agenda?

Do not forget that it was during the bush administration that 9/11 happened. What kind of irrelevant thing are these meaningless deportations?
Or the amount of military support and actions taken in support of pissrael during the obama administration.

I mean we can play devil's advocate, did Nazism help or hurt the jewish agenda now that half the jews are in Israel? I am being pedantic to show you an example, as I very much support Nazi Germany. We must have secure borders first so than we can build out our Anti Jewish agenda.

Looking at Biden's deportation numbers, '21 and '22 were well below Trump. But '23, after Covid, the deportation numbers shoot up. Above anything Trump did. '24 is setting up to be a massive deportation year for Biden. Note that the '24 data is from FEBURARY of this year.

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-ELECTION/MIGRATION-DEPORTATIONS/akpeoeoerpr/

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Obama's administration destroyed the regime in Libya - the last gate that kept mass immigration from entering Europe, now Europe is flooded by migrants. Let that sink in...
Let me be clear that I have never voted for Obama, despite being of age for both his terms. Gadafi was going to die regardless if America did it or not. It sucks and it isn't right, but Amerika did not act alone in Libya. I am sorry, but Obama did not make Europe take any refuges. That was up to the compromised European leaders.

If I had to choose more secure borders at home, with some NWO agenda for Foreign policy.

OR

Less secure borders, with less NWO agenda for Foreign policy.

Gods... It's a damn hard choice...
 
Notice how you aren't posting the amount of people who entered during the Trump presidency. It was less because of his Stay In Mexico Policy.
If you have a source for information that you deem should be shown, then produce it. I am grabbing the info I can, from the most reputable sources I can find.
 
I mean we can play devil's advocate, did Nazism help or hurt the jewish agenda now that half the jews are in Israel? I am being pedantic to show you an example, as I very much support Nazi Germany. We must have secure borders first so than we can build out our Anti Jewish agenda.

Looking at Biden's deportation numbers, '21 and '22 were well below Trump. But '23, after Covid, the deportation numbers shoot up. Above anything Trump did. '24 is setting up to be a massive deportation year for Biden. Note that the '24 data is from FEBURARY of this year.

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-ELECTION/MIGRATION-DEPORTATIONS/akpeoeoerpr/

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Let me be clear that I have never voted for Obama, despite being of age for both his terms. Gadafi was going to die regardless if America did it or not. It sucks and it isn't right, but Amerika did not act alone in Libya. I am sorry, but Obama did not make Europe take any refuges. That was up to the compromised European leaders.

If I had to choose more secure borders at home, with some NWO agenda for Foreign policy.

OR

Less secure borders, with less NWO agenda for Foreign policy.

Gods... It's a damn hard choice...

These are simply short sighted and irrelevant things to look at.

Have you read the other comments I made in my reply to you?
Any thoughts about that?

The big picture is what matters here, not deportations of some small less than a million people or illegals. These things are completely irrelevant.
 
These are simply short sighted and irrelevant things to look at.

Have you read the other comments I made in my reply to you?
Any thoughts about that?

The big picture is what matters here, not deportations of some small less than a million people or illegals. These things are completely irrelevant.
The big picture is that Trump is a liar. And anything you think will happen in his presidency, that you like, will only happen by mere chance.
 
The big picture is that Trump is a liar. And anything you think will happen in his presidency, that you like, will only happen by mere chance.

Is that all you can say? I had really expected a slightly more intellectual response from a member that has been around as long as you have.
I suppose these elections have muddled the waters a lot and all the nonsense around politics is making it hard to stay true to the things that matter for people, even for some SS that have been around for over 7 years... Confusion is high at the moment, exactly as the jews are intending.

What exactly are you hung up or confused about?

Trump is an idiot, while kamala is a literal doormat. I fail to see how there is any confusion here or how there is a difficult choice.
As for him being a liar, none of that changes what I said will happen.

What I said is not based on promises by him or failures by him, but it is based on higher providence as can be seen from the recent events and the bigger picture at play here.
 
If you have a source for information that you deem should be shown, then produce it. I am grabbing the info I can, from the most reputable sources I can find.
Translation, "I am QUICKLY looking for biased information to back up what I say". but even this is lacking in depth thought as told to you above. We are already aware of the numbers plus what you're leaving out that is relevant as mentioned above.
 
Look, if you don't cite any sources for your claims. I'll treat it as such, as basically your feelings. But since you're just going to fallback to mere providence, than don't even make a logical case for his second term. Just state that.

Is that all you can say? I had really expected a slightly more intellectual response from a member that has been around as long as you have.
I suppose these elections have muddled the waters a lot and all the nonsense around politics is making it hard to stay true to the things that matter for people, even for some SS that have been around for over 7 years... Confusion is high at the moment, exactly as the jews are intending.

What exactly are you hung up or confused about?

Trump is an idiot, while kamala is a literal doormat. I fail to see how there is any confusion here or how there is a difficult choice.
As for him being a liar, none of that changes what I said will happen.

What I said is not based on promises by him or failures by him, but it is based on higher providence as can be seen from the recent events and the bigger picture at play here.
 
Translation, "I am QUICKLY looking for biased information to back up what I say". but even this is lacking in depth thought as told to you above. We are already aware of the numbers plus what you're leaving out that is relevant as mentioned above.
What numbers am I missing? Cite them, please...
 
Look, if you don't cite any sources for your claims. I'll treat it as such, as basically your feelings. But since you're just going to fallback to mere providence, than don't even make a logical case for his second term. Just state that.

I have made my case very clear as to why a second trump term is infinitely more favourable than a kamala term out of all people.

Yet all the response I get is "Trump is a liar so go kamala go!"

I have kindly asked you to comment on my reply made, yet you have nothing to say whatsoever.

You are decided and just want to argue with others who give you insight into better opinions because the political propaganda has got you extremely confused on anything that matters.

Logical arguments are wasted on you, because you do not listen to logic, you only listen to your own bias and emotional reactions, as you are showing in each reply here.

One has to wonder what you have been doing for the last 7 years to end up like this? As a dedicated SS, it should be obvious to see beyond these things you are hung up on, and be close to the Gods, receiving answers on what matters from Them regarding topics like this. Meditation leads one to see through falsehoods and nonsense, cutting straight to the core points of significance on matters.

Have you done anything in that regard at all? Or are you hung up over nonsensical political propaganda and the words of andrapoda intellectuals?
 
I mean Trump is going to win as the jews picked his side, we might have to return to this thread at a later date.

And hope that Trump's lame duck produces some results for our cause...
 
I mean Trump is going to win as the jews picked his side, we might have to return to this thread at a later date.

And hope that Trump's lame duck produces some results for our cause...

Read this quote again:

What you need to realize is, what do the jews want from america right now?

They want the big american balls to come flying and rolling down en mass with tens of thousands of soldiers and billions of dollars of military investment, to fight Iran and the middle eastern block on their behalf, to create their "greater israel". Now that pissrael is engaging in material conflicts, they require american balls to come bail them out as usual. Without them, they are destitute. Not just american balls, but also american dollars. They want america to be the loyal attack dog and loyal slave, bailing them out and taking on all the karma for them, deflecting everything that is coming down onto the jews and onto pissrael, onto america instead.

Kamala cannot be expected to do anything less than mobilize all the presidential powers she would gain in full and unquestioning support for pissrael immediately, aiding them however possible. Trump on the other hand is not as easily convinced by them to do the same. This is why the Gods intervened and did not let him get killed when they attempted to kill him twice.

Not because trump is a great man of valour respected by the powers of Hell, but because trump is a man who puts a wrench in the jewish agenda and is not a well oiled cog in their machine. He proves to be an obstacle for the jews and they do not want him around. The jews know this and they also know that trump is being protected by forces out of their reach, for these reasons, so they are trying to placate him now in preparation of the future in case he does get elected.

He is someone the jews would have to invest considerable time and effort in to make him do what they want out of him, far more so than kamala, which would slow everything down for the jews, even if ultimately he ends up committed to pissrael regardless. What we and what the world needs at the moment is for any support to pissrael to freeze, for them to be left destitute and on their own. Time is not on their side, so any delays are extremely damning for the jews. This is why trump is the better candidate from our perspective. Nothing else really matters here, as it is irrelevant to the bigger picture at play at the moment.

This is also why you see pissraeli's and jews "placating" trump, because they know if trump is to be president, the only way they will really get anything from him is to placate him to some degree. For kamala, they don't need to do anything. She is worthless. Cannot and won't stand up to them in any way. Like biden, total doormat.

However, make no mistake. Trump is not on our side at all, he is not our "friend". However, we need to look at the bigger picture and have realistic expectations.
It is not even about picking a lesser evil, it is about having a president that doesn't give pissrael what they want completely for free at the expense of America without question.

Voting for kamala is the same as completely signing your country off to the jews. Democrats are worthless when it comes to this. Even a xian america is better at the moment than a multicultural cesspool that licks the filthy jew ass like a slave at their beckoning without question.

It is how things are. Whether you can see that or not right now, doesn't mean things are different.

What you are saying now, I have already addressed.

Jews are placating trump, because they know they have to do this in a vain attempt to try and turn things in their favour and make trump do what they want him to do.
Seeing how they could not get rid of him, jews change their strategy to placating him, since they are stuck with him.

However, we are not expecting anything great from trump at all. Politics at the moment is completely nonsense.

No American politics will produce any direct results for our cause at all. This is a false expectation to have. However, there are differences in what can happen based on how closely aligned the people in charge are with the jews. Kamala is nothing more than a slave to the jew, a doormat as I said. While trump is a man with personality aligned maybe 50-95% depending on the context and exact question. Even that 5% is not something the jews want at all. And even at the 95%, trump is not a slave to the jew that they can ask anything and he will unquestioningly provide 110% support. He is more lukewarm, has his own vision and ideas and is not blindly spreading his cheeks for them to do whatever they want.

Kamala, whether she wants to or not, has no influence whatsoever, no real possibility. She is the poster child doormat president that the jews can bend and twist without any regard and without any resistance. Even if she has a change of heart and would want to oppose them, she doesn't have the will nor the backing or personal capability to do so. She has no choice in any matter. It's how she has been prepared by the jews for decades, to be a perfect sock puppet.


The only thing that matters now is who will inconvenience pissrael the most, and who is more in line with the agenda of the Gods. Pissrael is to be left destitute entirely. Having a trump administration brings everything much closer to this necessity than not.

When you look at how things develop later in case we have a second trump administration, ask yourself "How would things have been with a doormat president instead?"

The answer is, significantly worse.
 
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Trump gave Israel the Golan Heights. Obama or Bush didn't and Kamala probably wouldn't have done that.

If deportations don't matter, if giving land rights to israel doesn't matter. Than I am trying to figure out the "bigger picture" that I am missing. It sounds like half a dozen of one, and 6 to another.

I just can't see Kamala letting Israel create "Greater Israel", Kamala's base wouldn't allow it. With Trump idk where he stands on israeli expansion, because he won't fucking say.
 
What numbers am I missing? Cite them, please...
The numbers of illegal immigrants coming in during the Trump presidency that shows why there was less deportations (along with Dems stopping him from going into sanctuary cities.)

You're so triggered that you're forgetting what you just read or are you "misspeaking" because you can't control your emotions?

My point now is to show that you're so eager to scramble for info that you think proves anything while leaving out important context and you refuse to do a simple search that would take you as long or even less than the search you did for those links. Even now you could do it as it's public info just like what you posted. I am not here to spoon feed you info that is easy to find. I don't need to find that info when I know it's true. You actually know that the number of illegals coming in being less would prove your points moot so now you wish to be petty, or even more so I should say.

Pretend that you won when you're showing no sign of humility of being possibly wrong even though you ignore everything that contradicted your statements.

7 years and this is how you act...
 
Trump kissed the wall, kamala will kiss the wall both of them have saturated their cabinets and close circle with jews, trump is a bit of a wildcard I suppose but thats not necessarily a good thing, they both literally on a debate argued with each other over who sucks more israeli cock, the whole thing is a theatre and not worth any disturbance amongst our community, vote for whoever you feel will best serve your interests although I can all but guarantee neither will.

All the effort and energy arguing politics is energy and effort that could have been a Ritual, agree to disagree and move on.
Exactly. That’s the whole point in this post
 
Trump gave Israel the Golan Heights. Obama or Bush didn't and Kamala probably wouldn't have done that.

If deportations don't matter, if giving land rights to israel doesn't matter. Than I am trying to figure out the "bigger picture" that I am missing. It sounds like half a dozen of one, and 6 to another.

I just can't see Kamala letting Israel create "Greater Israel", Kamala's base wouldn't allow it. With Trump idk where he stands on israeli expansion, because he won't fucking say.
And now you ignore the money that harris and biden administration has given to israel. The golan heights is a meaningless gesture and this was mentioned before. It's meaningless because their power has diminished so these prophecy nonsense is all empty gestures but money does still rule so that proves what harris' actions are objectively worse.
 
Neither party will take our side into any consideration at all. That is not what we are expecting either, we know this won't happen.

The main difference that you need to look out for here, and the defining difference between trump and kamala as presidential candidates is that kamala will be nothing but a complete doormat as a president, who when she is in charge will do exactly to the letter what the jews and nwo want without question. A total puppet. Just like with biden, she won't be in any control and wont exercise any authoroty of her own whatsoever, just a tool for the jews to get a free pass to get done whatever they wanted.

She will send any amount of military and monetary aid to pissrael immediately when asked, without any consideration for anything else, she will merely do what she is asked, and even if she would want it to be otherwise, she doesn't have the capacity to do otherwise.

Trump on the other hand is a man with personality, who is not a complete doormat that will do what the jew asks of him without any questions or considerations of his own. He has a clear vision and ideals himself, and he has proven to be unfavorable to war, which is basically the best you can hope for from an American president at the moment.

What you need to realize is, what do the jews want from america right now?

They want the big american balls to come flying and rolling down en mass with tens of thousands of soldiers and billions of dollars of military investment, to fight Iran and the middle eastern block on their behalf, to create their "greater israel". Now that pissrael is engaging in material conflicts, they require american balls to come bail them out as usual. Without them, they are destitute. Not just american balls, but also american dollars. They want america to be the loyal attack dog and loyal slave, bailing them out and taking on all the karma for them, deflecting everything that is coming down onto the jews and onto pissrael, onto america instead.

Kamala cannot be expected to do anything less than mobilize all the presidential powers she would gain in full and unquestioning support for pissrael immediately, aiding them however possible. Trump on the other hand is not as easily convinced by them to do the same. This is why the Gods intervened and did not let him get killed when they attempted to kill him twice.

Not because trump is a great man of valour respected by the powers of Hell, but because trump is a man who puts a wrench in the jewish agenda and is not a well oiled cog in their machine. He proves to be an obstacle for the jews and they do not want him around. The jews know this and they also know that trump is being protected by forces out of their reach, for these reasons, so they are trying to placate him now in preparation of the future in case he does get elected.

He is someone the jews would have to invest considerable time and effort in to make him do what they want out of him, far more so than kamala, which would slow everything down for the jews, even if ultimately he ends up committed to pissrael regardless. What we and what the world needs at the moment is for any support to pissrael to freeze, for them to be left destitute and on their own. Time is not on their side, so any delays are extremely damning for the jews. This is why trump is the better candidate from our perspective. Nothing else really matters here, as it is irrelevant to the bigger picture at play at the moment.

This is also why you see pissraeli's and jews "placating" trump, because they know if trump is to be president, the only way they will really get anything from him is to placate him to some degree. For kamala, they don't need to do anything. She is worthless. Cannot and won't stand up to them in any way. Like biden, total doormat.

However, make no mistake. Trump is not on our side at all, he is not our "friend". However, we need to look at the bigger picture and have realistic expectations.
It is not even about picking a lesser evil, it is about having a president that doesn't give pissrael what they want completely for free at the expense of America without question.

Voting for kamala is the same as completely signing your country off to the jews. Democrats are worthless when it comes to this. Even a xian america is better at the moment than a multicultural cesspool that licks the filthy jew ass like a slave at their beckoning without question.
Our country belongs to the Jews. So. This feels redundant. This whole back and forth. I won’t be voting for the enemy on either side. The enemy controls the republicans and the democrats.

It is what it is.
Presidency of Donald Trump
January 20, 2017 – January 20, 2021

:rolleyes:
you all are doing exactly what I didn’t want out of this post. Stop with the point for point back and forth. I could argue with y’all all day with stats, history and facts. I could also argue with the dems all day. Because they are ran by the enemy. Both of them. I do not see one as better than the other. This is exactly what the enemy wants and it’s feeling like a redundant back and forth at this point. The Jews have control of both parties. The money proves that. End of. Story.
 
I mean we can play devil's advocate, did Nazism help or hurt the jewish agenda now that half the jews are in Israel? I am being pedantic to show you an example, as I very much support Nazi Germany. We must have secure borders first so than we can build out our Anti Jewish agenda.

Looking at Biden's deportation numbers, '21 and '22 were well below Trump. But '23, after Covid, the deportation numbers shoot up. Above anything Trump did. '24 is setting up to be a massive deportation year for Biden. Note that the '24 data is from FEBURARY of this year.

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-ELECTION/MIGRATION-DEPORTATIONS/akpeoeoerpr/

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Let me be clear that I have never voted for Obama, despite being of age for both his terms. Gadafi was going to die regardless if America did it or not. It sucks and it isn't right, but Amerika did not act alone in Libya. I am sorry, but Obama did not make Europe take any refuges. That was up to the compromised European leaders.

If I had to choose more secure borders at home, with some NWO agenda for Foreign policy.

OR

Less secure borders, with less NWO agenda for Foreign policy.

Gods... It's a damn hard choice...
You brag about Biden's deportation numbers, but ignore that under Biden there have been more than 25 Million of them who came in. Even if Biden deported a million, that is still a net import of 24 million. Exact number is not known because of the amount of "got aways" but it is more than 20 million and estimated to possibly be 30 million.

You also are ignoring all of the state laws in sanctuary cities and sanctuary states which fundamentally do not allow ICE to come in and deport people. The local and state police do not cooperate with ICE in any way, and in many sanctuary cities, they said local police will put the ICE agents themselves into legal trouble if they try to come in and do their jobs.

The reason why almost all deportations are people who have been arrested for another violent crime, is because this is basically the only process now where they will even allow the guy to be deported. You see this increase with Biden because there is such an increase of violent criminals who he smuggled in in the first place. And yes, the Biden administration not only allowed them through the border but also directly ordered and funded for these people to be brought in on both commercial and military plane flights and flown into towns all over the country.

For you, and for the other person who kept mentioning pedophiles. How to you feel about the 85,000 young children who are now completly missing and the government doesn't know where they are or who they are with? And it is known that the majority have been delivered directly to sex traffickers to be sex slaves, or labor traffickers to work as slaves. Most of these children came with colored bracelets on their hands that mean what purpose they will be used for, how much they are worth and how much they are being sold for. And with a phone number of a random adult male sex trafficker who the child does not know, and that is the contact for who they are being delivered to. And the Biden administration takes the children, ships them on planes and busses, and then delivers them directly to the sex slavery traffickers. They know that these men are not related to the children, and they do not care because they are trying to get rid of as many children as quickly as possible.

 
His quote was:
"Everything you are saying is childish as it simply does not correlate with reality. You are clearly somebody who has paid zero attention to any political events in the last decade."

That is not an insult. That is criticism. Do you even know what an insult is?
"You're an idiot" / "You're an asshole" / "You're dumb" <- these are insults.
"You're saying childish things because X reason" <- this is criticism, especially as it is being given a reason. Reasoning is the biggest difference between an insult and criticism.

And why are you saying "members" plural? He only criticized you at that point.
Are you using plural majestatis? Lmao. You're clearly triggered more than you should, relax.

For me, the issue is that you're not offering a solution to the problem.
Elections are coming, you can vote or not vote.
Voting for Kamala is an obvious no-go.
Voting for Trump might stink but is an objectively better option even if by not much.

That's it, it boils down to either voting for Trump hoping he won't do as much damage as Kamala would, or you can abstain from voting.
At this point, were I American, I'd vote Trump. Not like I like the guy. What other choice do you have, now, realistically?
Not voting isn't gonna do you any good either, actually it'd make it more likely for Kamala to win.

I undestand your point about Hitler. But we don't have a Hitler today. It would've been much easier if we did, but we don't.
So it's pointless to bring it up.
Oh no in another thread he was not kind and rude to another member calling him a coward
 
Our country belongs to the Jews. So. This feels redundant. This whole back and forth. I won’t be voting for the enemy on either side. The enemy controls the republicans and the democrats.

It is what it is.

you all are doing exactly what I didn’t want out of this post. Stop with the point for point back and forth. I could argue with y’all all day with stats, history and facts. I could also argue with the dems all day. Because they are ran by the enemy. Both of them. I do not see one as better than the other. This is exactly what the enemy wants and it’s feeling like a redundant back and forth at this point. The Jews have control of both parties. The money proves that. End of. Story.
I haven't seen you share one fact yet. Straight Shot shared one factual number, but it was basically meaningless because it was interpreted incorrectly. So far I have seen long lists of facts, but only from one side.

Like I said. All leftists have are emotional reactions, and short meaningless phrases that they memorize and regurgitate. They fundamentally do not operate on truth, logic, facts, or examples. All it is is programmed emotional reactions, like the dog programmed to drool when he hears the bell.
 
And Trump's deportations were higher, when....

Even if we pretend for a moment that the immigration issue in America is of paramount importance, as compared to the issue with israel at the moment,
The whole point regarding this is, when there are less illegals and less immigrants, there will be less deportations, because there are less people that need to be deported.

Since you are too lazy to look for it yourself, to point out your own hubris, I will link you a piece of data you should be looking at on this small issue that you are completely befuddled by:

https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey

"

Conclusion​

We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39 million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022 — a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022 estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record high in American history.

While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy."


These are only officially curated statistics. When it comes to these things, what is seen and in the open is only a fraction of the reality. The swing in both ways is larger than can be reported, especially in these institutions. Something to keep in mind when reading articles like this. Same as to keep in mind these articles are heavily biased in favour of immigration and the like.
 
Literally the first thing Biden did on his first day as president was sign 94 Executive Orders to cancel out and erase all of Trump's border policies, cancel Remain in Mexico, and allow everybody to come flooding in. He literally ordered that Border Patrol is not allowed to try to keep anyone out, and instead they need to work to bring in anybody who reaches the border, and deliver them into the country.

How do you feel about the 85,000 children who are known to be entirely missing? And the more than 450,000 children who are not directly declared missing, but it is unknown where they are or who they are with?

All of the apartment buildings in Aurora Colorado and San Antonio Texas that have been entirely taken over by the Tren De Aragua prison gang. What these apartment buildings are being used for is a place to house the young children and women who are sex slaves who are raped many times every day. This is a known fact. As it has been known already for many years that the majority of women and children who are illegally trafficked across the border are raped, this does not stop when they are handed to human traffickers within the country.
 
Even if we pretend for a moment that the immigration issue in America is of paramount importance, as compared to the issue with israel at the moment,
The whole point regarding this is, when there are less illegals and less immigrants, there will be less deportations, because there are less people that need to be deported.

Since you are too lazy to look for it yourself, to point out your own hubris, I will link you a piece of data you should be looking at on this small issue that you are completely befuddled by:

https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey

"

Conclusion​

We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39 million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022 — a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022 estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record high in American history.

While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy."


These are only officially curated statistics. When it comes to these things, what is seen and in the open is only a fraction of the reality. The swing in both ways is larger than can be reported, especially in these institutions. Something to keep in mind when reading articles like this. Same as to keep in mind these articles are heavily biased in favour of immigration and the like.
So this 11 million figure is totally bogus?

 

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I haven't seen you share one fact yet. Straight Shot shared one factual number, but it was basically meaningless because it was interpreted incorrectly. So far I have seen long lists of facts, but only from one side.

Like I said. All leftists have are emotional reactions, and short meaningless phrases that they memorize and regurgitate. They fundamentally do not operate on truth, logic, facts, or examples. All it is is programmed emotional reactions, like the dog programmed to drool when he hears the bell.
So sad I hit show ignored content. Imagine if I said you were childish. Or that you’re programmed like a dog.


I’m not a leftist. I don’t appreciate you nor what you say because you’re being rude. I don’t speak with people who are this disrespectful. And certainly will not get into a debate when I believe both are equally evil.
 
And Trump's deportations were higher, when....
You mean the same deportations that were still less than his predecessor and the one after him because they weren't coming in as much once he took office to which they were coming more before him and especially after him. JG VOE has graciously laid it out for you above.
Notice how you aren't posting the amount of people who entered during the Trump presidency. It was less because of his Stay In Mexico Policy.
Remain in Mexico was enacted in 2019....


Even better for my point. I was wrong that the sole reason they weren't coming was because of this policy. The number of illegals were still less even before the implementation of this policy. You should really start thinking things in a deeper manner as you just helped my point.
 
And if you want to say, he did all his deporting in 2020!!!!

"•Administrative and Criminal Arrests: Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, in March 2020,ICE ERO temporarily adjusted its enforcement posture to narrowly focus enforcement efforts on public safety risks and individuals subject to mandatory detention based on criminal grounds. In FY 2020 ICE ERO conducted 103,603 administrative arrests, a 28percent decline from FY 2019, and 90 percent of those arrested had criminal convictions or pending criminal charges at the time of arrest.

In addition to arresting aliens for administrative violations of the immigration laws, ICEERO also conducts criminal arrests and assists with pursuing prosecutions related to such criminal activity. In FY 2020, ICE ERO enforcement activities resulted in 4,360 criminal arrests, 4,479 criminal charges, and 5,397 convictions.

• ICE Detainers: In FY 2020, ICE ERO issued 122,233 detainers, a 26 percent decline from FY 2019. This was likely impacted by decreased numbers of individuals in state and local custody nationwide, ICE’s own temporary reduction in enforcement activity early in the pandemic, an increasing number of jurisdictions that do not cooperate with immigration enforcement activities, and court rulings limiting ICE’s ability to lodge detainers.

• Removals: ICE ERO conducted 185,884 removals during FY 2020, a 30 percent decrease from FY 2019. This decrease primarily resulted from a sharp decline in CBP apprehensions at the Southwest Border due to the use of authority under 42 U.S.C. §§265 and 268 to expel aliens from the United States to prevent the introduction of COVID19, though it was also impacted by a decline in ICE ERO interior arrests. The vast majority of ICE ERO’s interior removals – 92 percent – had criminal convictions or pending criminal charges, demonstrating ICE ERO’s commitment to removing those who pose the greatest risk to the safety and security of the United States. Additionally, despite the overall decrease in removals, ICE ERO assisted CBP with 17,000 air charter"

This is exactly right. Because the actions and policies that Trump enforced to secure the border meant that illegal immigration decreased from 2019 to 2020. Meaning logically that deportations would decrease proportionally.
 
Even if we pretend for a moment that the immigration issue in America is of paramount importance, as compared to the issue with israel at the moment,
The whole point regarding this is, when there are less illegals and less immigrants, there will be less deportations, because there are less people that need to be deported.

Since you are too lazy to look for it yourself, to point out your own hubris, I will link you a piece of data you should be looking at on this small issue that you are completely befuddled by:

https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey

"

Conclusion​

We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39 million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022 — a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022 estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record high in American history.

While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy."


These are only officially curated statistics. When it comes to these things, what is seen and in the open is only a fraction of the reality. The swing in both ways is larger than can be reported, especially in these institutions. Something to keep in mind when reading articles like this. Same as to keep in mind these articles are heavily biased in favour of immigration and the like.
I’m glad that you’re being respectful when getting into the details. That’s at least nice to see. Thank you.
 
Literally the first thing Biden did on his first day as president was sign 94 Executive Orders to cancel out and erase all of Trump's border policies, cancel Remain in Mexico, and allow everybody to come flooding in. He literally ordered that Border Patrol is not allowed to try to keep anyone out, and instead they need to work to bring in anybody who reaches the border, and deliver them into the country.

How do you feel about the 85,000 children who are known to be entirely missing? And the more than 450,000 children who are not directly declared missing, but it is unknown where they are or who they are with?

All of the apartment buildings in Aurora Colorado and San Antonio Texas that have been entirely taken over by the Tren De Aragua prison gang. What these apartment buildings are being used for is a place to house the young children and women who are sex slaves who are raped many times every day. This is a known fact. As it has been known already for many years that the majority of women and children who are illegally trafficked across the border are raped, this does not stop when they are handed to human traffickers within the country.

Of course, these things are always overlooked in favour of emotional jerk reactions, because "trump bad mkay."
 
74,000 illegals is what the Trump admin sent back through "Remain in Mexico".

Mexico's foreign ministry says around 74,000 migrants were returned to Mexico under the program during the Trump administration while approximately 7,500 have gone through the program under Biden.

 
So sad I hit show ignored content. Imagine if I said you were childish. Or that you’re programmed like a dog.


I’m not a leftist. I don’t appreciate you nor what you say because you’re being rude. I don’t speak with people who are this disrespectful. And certainly will not get into a debate when I believe both are equally evil.
Sometimes with threads like this its best to just stop engaging, especially with politics some people wont change their mind regardless, maybe he's right maybe your right I don't know and honestly I think its utterly irrelevant to the grand scheme of things, as our Gods and our Rituals will ensure no matter what happens it manifests negatively for the enemy whether in the short term or long term, you shouldnt have been insulted for making this post I agree, and similar things have happened to me and I get its aggravating but its important to remember one of our primary directives as Satanists is to be united, anyone who puts in negative energy be it spiritual or physical contrary to this is doing a disservice to themselves and the Gods and I admit I have done so in the past but the Gods do take note of these things, sometimes silence is golden as it were.

People need to calm down when it comes to politics, as above so below, we need to focus our efforts where it matters and that isnt arguing with one another over something that frankly we cannot control, that being elections. We can however control the outcomes that these elections create through our rituals, I know thats what you tried to get at when you made this post and its been derailed, yet again things like that have happened to me, for future reference I just wont make any more posts regarding controversial issues and stick purely to the spiritual I suggest you do the same, ultimately by bringing up politics at all you inadvertently created a political discussion which is clearly the opposite to what you intended.

I try and avoid making posts now unless its something I truly need help with or don't know the answer of, sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something, I believe HPHC wrote something to the effect of not every topic/post that could be made needs to be made I try and consider that before I make any posts now, try and be helpful and supportive in the community your entitled to all your feelings and beliefs but they dont need to always be shared as inevitably people will disagree and arguments created, dont be part of the negative feedback loop.

It can be frustrating but the Gods know your heart, this is their temple no need to argue inside of it unless you are arguing on behalf of the Gods.
 
So sad I hit show ignored content. Imagine if I said you were childish. Or that you’re programmed like a dog.


I’m not a leftist. I don’t appreciate you nor what you say because you’re being rude. I don’t speak with people who are this disrespectful. And certainly will not get into a debate when I believe both are equally evil.
It can possibly be considered as rude for you to tell me that you think I've never read any spiritual information in my life. When I've been here for 8 years and it looks like you've been here for less than 8 weeks.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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