Voice of Enki [JG]
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Vira_ said:If I look at dogs for example, they are dirty, they do nothing useful. They are just there moving around and living on your back like vermin. They expect you to give them food, they expect you to give them a home, they even expect that you collect their faeces(shit), and they even demand your love, despite the fact that they are such a useless burden.Voice of Enki [JG said:" post_id=478807 time=1703262164 user_id=84]
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What do they do? Companionship? Protects?
We are a species that lives in community for a reason, and now we have other tools to protect ourselves, to move goods or to remove rats from a place. If you need companionship find a friend or girlfriend, don't take an animal to keep it out of its natural habbitat and make it a completely dependent, unnecessary pet slave that expects everything ready just because it exists.
Does it seem to you that a dog is made to be in the company of humans in their own homes? Look at them they have obvious predator traits, they should be in the wild among their own kind hunting to survive, not as house slaves in the home to make an owner smile. This is pretty sick.
They are essentially of no use to us, and it is better for them to be in their natural environment, otherwise they are just beings deprived of their nature.
You have a very warped view regarding this, I would say, you are even completely out of tune with the muse of life as a whole after reading the way you look at existence around you. The level of bitterness is disheartening.
In essence, what are we to the Gods? Relative to them, I am less than vermin is relative to myself. How dirty and unpleasant are we compared to the Gods? How ignorant and foolish.. I am nothing at all next to Satan, however, looking at it that way, makes no sense, neither do the Gods look at us that way or through such a lens.
Whether there is value in existence, depends also in what you attribute value to. The Gods see value in the existence of species themselves, the existence of diverse evolving and existing life has inherent value in their eyes, whether that life has value in context to a human society or not doesn't matter to them at all. Neither does it to me, value on these things is relative to the perspective from which you observe.
The description you give about dogs, one can say the same thing about almost all life on Earth, and even about yourself.
Realistically, what are we next to dogs? We consume more than any creatures on Earth, we take the habitat of nature, we pollute with our societies even when we try to minimize this individually, and yes, we demand endless comforts and necessities more than a hundred times than the needs of a dog and require dozens of times resources to support these needs, we shit more than all animals on the Earth combined, how useless and dirty is humanity? Even when I try to live a sustainable life, my dog pollutes less than I do and has not even 10% of my needs in life, am I then worse than a dog?
See how this view of yours isn't applicable in reality? These things do not make sense to judge existence by, as you get nowhere with it and it leads to disingenuous conclusions.
When looking at dogs, you have to understand how they are fundamentally different from their wild counterparts.
The entire soul of a dog is completely different, they are a different species altogether. They are also more complex in their thinking and expression, in many ways they are far more evolved. Due to the domestication, dogs have a symbiotic relationship with human beings. I have already explained that in my previous reply how this works.
Keeping a dog is not like taking a creature out of their natural habitat or whatever.
The natural habitat of a dog is to be besides a human, same for most other pets or domesticated creatures, because that is how they have evolved now and what they are now after being domesticated for thousands of years. Quite literally they are integrated within human society across the globe, as a symbiotic species, for a very long time. Dogs as a species exist to coexist along with humans, they have evolved and adapted this way and exist best this way, at the same time, humans receive a lot from their pets. Without pets, how lame would life be, how empty and terrible. Anyone who has ever had a pet, can say how much having one does enrich your life, even your family. Your children love this and are enriched through this, their lives better for having this companion.
The best memories from the childhoods of many people, memories which stick with people for their whole lives and even shape their views on life, are from their family pets.
The natural environment of a dog, is alongside humanity, in our homes and in our societies. Anything else, would be depriving them of their nature.
For many people, the companionship their pet provides them is invaluable.
The relative simplicity of an animal allows them to fulfill roles in the lives of people that no human could ever fulfill. When it comes to dogs, they need almost nothing as compared to a human, they are content with very little, and when cared for well their affection is truly boundless in return for what you give. They are extremely pure in their expressions and affection, which by itself is uplifting and elevating. This is the case for any domesticated animal, not only for dogs.
Their affection and love for the people who take care of them is greater and more pure than any other being. To the extend this affection alone is soul mending. Looking at it like that, it is nothing less than Sacred and Divine.
Besides the affection, having a pet gets someone to activate in life. How many people are there who struggle to take good care of themselves? One may say, these people should just learn to do better or whatever. However, how are they going to learn that? Are they suddenly going to change their ways which they have se in for decades, and suddenly they would change for the better? Are they suddenly going to find friends or a partner, when they are in no position to attract such a person or receive such a person? Not at all.
For many people who have felt stuck in life, or alone, or decadent and futile, getting a pet activated them to finally get off their ass and make life something worth living, make life pleasant and worth looking forward to, as this pet requires you to care and requires you to put in effort, get off your ass and provide for them and yourself a better environment. When people take this commitment seriously, it transforms them for the better in all aspects of their life.
What other thing can provide this for a human being at such a small investment? There is nothing. Starting a family is not an option for many, having friends does not solve this at all, therapy? Perhaps if someone has a personal caretaker to activate them daily in life, each and every day. Ooh wait, isn't that exactly what a Dog does?
Indeed, when one takes the commitment seriously, a dog is the best activator in life, they are always there for you to get you going in life and keep you going. Through them, many people transform into better versions of themselves which they never could have accomplished without their animal companion.
To me, the excitement of my dog when I got home after being away for the day, the way she ran up to the door as she heard me arrive, and waited at the door for me to open it, to then excitedly jump up at me because she was glad to see me again, each and every day, it is one of the most endearing things in the world. The purity of her excitement, unconditional love and appreciation, this is not something you can really put into words. This alone is invaluable.
Then that feeling when she one day couldn't do that anymore, because she had become old and sick, but to still see her trying despite her old age and weakness, it is also indescribable. I cannot think back to that without getting tears in my eyes. To me, that dog enriched my life in ways that nothing else could have.
To say she had no value or was useless, is not only false, but certainly disingenuous towards life as a whole. Similarly, she could never have lived in the wild, as she was a completely different creature from any wild animal, her soul as a whole never existed in the wild, she was born to be a companion to human beings and she exists to coexist with human beings.
The whole fate and karmic pattern of such a life is completely different from any wild animal, karmically it is tied to humanity, dependent on it but also providing intangible uplifting bonds in return.
Spiritually, if you have a familiar, your familiar protects you in the literal sense, they are sensitive to many things comparable to a very spiritually open SS, they are sensitive to energy as well in ways beyond anyone but the most advanced spiritual people. Their physical senses are very sharp, and this is reflected in their sensitivity to the spiritual and immaterial. As a familiar, an animal brings you a lot, their aura keeps you safe as you sleep, their presence is purifying, it is like having an extra layer of protection 24/7. They can warn you of karmic things that are coming up, and the Gods can even communicate to you through them.
Besides that, taking something under your care teaches you a lot about life, about responsibility, and what it takes to give, to care and to protect. Someone who cares well for an animal, will care well for their family as well, while someone who cannot even take care of an animal certainly is not fit to handle the responsibility of taking care of a family of their own.
For most human beings, they will see their grandparents pass at a young age, and they will see their children or children from close family be born and grow, but it is rare for a single human being to witness an entire life from one person in their own lifetime, especially a complete one from beginning to passing, not through accident but through old age.
It is fulfilling to take care of another life, to have it by your side from the earliest moments they open their eyes, till they pass, it gives you a small glimpse at the greater path of life in a unique way as one can experience an entire lifetime in a short time of your own. This gives you the chance to immerse yourself in the essence of life, as you see it grow and pass before your eyes, and measure also the impact you have had on this life. In my eyes, this is quite a valuable experience that can be gained from this.
To have a pet is a choice for people that is available because we as human beings are advanced to be able to have this choice, to take another life under your wing and becomes the caretaker for another being. In this case, it is a privilege available due to the stability and advancement of our society and species as a whole.
You do not have to like this or want this yourself, but you should also be able to see it for what it is, learning to look at things not from the most negative/cynical perspective, but from at least the middle ground, to get closer to a complete understanding towards the affairs and manifestations of life.
To love and appreciate animals, should come naturally to any human being. If for any reason you do not feel this within your heart, even towards animals that exist specifically for their bonds with humans, or those whom enrich and elevate our lives with their presence and existence, fundamentally, you are missing an integral link to the world and to life as a whole.
How much we love them, is individual from person to person, depending also on the bond you have towards any specific animal, and depending on the nature of the animal and what they are in the world.
One would not look at a group of stray dogs the same as towards a proper family dog, same as one would not look appreciatively towards a swarm of locusts compared to a single grasshopper on your terrace in the summer, or an infestation of rats as compared to a pet rat. Nothing in nature is equal, and thus there is no one set way to approach life or all things.
Thus we must not unconditionally love life, a realistic approach is needed, the bottom line however is that one should be able to see all things for what they are and understand how they are part of the greater picture of existence, even in the case where we acknowledge it needs to be removed due to the undesired or harmful nature of it.