About Hierarchy

[Jrvan]

Many in this world have a very wrong attitude and approach to hierarchy that causes serious problems. They do not follow the Godly model of hierarchy.

In the Godly model, one who manages to surpass another in rank and/or ability is not only a welcome thing, but is celebrated. The human tendency to guard their position from anyone advancing past them is ungodly. It’s a fear of loss even though one of your own kind becoming better than you is only a gain to yourself and the whole.

The taste of success and prestige is like a poison that people get drunk on. Once they have it, they defend it as if their status is a great treasure hoard. To have status above other people is taken as some sort of trophy rather than a privilege to lead one’s people. This kind of mindset is why many in higher positions of hierarchy will knock others down when they attempt to climb the hierarchy.

To utter the words “Know your place” to the young genius who displays talent and a drive for achievement is a mark of the most cowardly and selfish beast who hates not only his people, but also the inherent law of forward motion within nature. They live for stagnation, to maintain themselves and what they have. Despite being higher, they drag their race down with this mindset and attitude towards hierarchy, and they are in fact a net loss for society. It is evil to do this in an effort to maintain one’s self above others.

The true and valid advancement of others above yourself should always be celebrated. It means only good things for everyone including you. We should all be grateful that there are people who are better than us. We should put the greatness of our individual races far above that of our own greatness in priority. What good is having a figurative trophy that says #1 when your race is in the toilet because you wouldn’t allow anyone to take their rightful place in the hierarchy? Why would anyone want to be the leader of a pile of shit, if they could see clearly past their own retarded vanity? If they could see clearly then they would be horrified at what they caused.

An example could be the Patrician class of Rome. They believed in status by birth and the over-importance of name. They would not allow for any from the Plebeian class to rise, to advance in spirituality. Without power of birth, without a sacred Nomen, one could never reach their full potential as a spiritual being on Earth. Try to imagine advancing in spiritual power through advancement, and rising in spiritual rank, but never having this acknowledged or accepted by your spiritual leaders. If your spiritual leaders were so pathetic and scared of losing their position that they acted as gatekeepers to you and others, never allowing you even the possibility of rising higher than them, would you not be angry? Imagine if the Pharaohs of Egypt refused to invest in and train their successors. That was a sacred tradition for an important reason. They even had the succession myth to guard against this sort of selfishness.

This eventually caused a civil war in Rome between the Patrician and Plebeian classes. The Plebeians, of course, took this way too far and ruined their society over it. However, it was most likely caused as a reaction in the first place by Patrician arrogance.

After the Plebeians supplanted Rome, many bad things happened. Immigrants could suddenly acquire the important Nomen Gentilicum which marked one as an important family in Rome. The Nomen Gentilicum effectively became worthless and no longer meant anything. Being a Plebeian became more advantageous than being a Patrician, so much so that a Patrician paid to be adopted by a Plebeian family (thus sacrificing their Patrician status).

All this and more horrors, just because they refused to allow one crab to rise from the bucket.

What is the lesson? The prejudice against the lower classes taken too far is destructive and will generate a reaction which can potentially destroy your civilization. Defending hierarchy to a needless degree is as destructive as lowers trying to climb the ladder without actually advancing spiritually.

If a Plebeian was initiated in the mystery schools, advanced very far spiritually and bettered themselves to a large degree, then why bar them from status that they earned? Why block your people from rising? Why fear others becoming better than you? Even animals don’t do this.

Animals are smarter than us in this regard because they obey nature. They can do hierarchy correctly, but for some reason we humans can’t get it right. In a wolf pack, if the Alpha needs to be replaced for the survival of the pack, or if a beta becomes better fit for leadership than the reigning Alpha, then a challenge is issued. If the beta proves itself then the former Alpha steps down and becomes beta. There is nothing wrong with being beta, and wolves have no problem with it. Good leaders know when to follow. Everyone covets the Apha seat, but who is actually worthy of it? Who could actually be a wolf for a single day? A bunch of boys who try so hard to be “alpha” are going to be wolves when they are so immersed in pop culture and idolizing “alpha status” and are so up their own ass that they would never willingly follow other wolves? They would get their own pack killed while trying to maintain their “alpha” status (which they wouldn’t have in the first place because they’re petty boys). No, they wouldn’t even be wolves in the first place. This mentality is pathetic and cancerous.

If you don’t want others to be better than you then make damn sure you keep rising higher and higher spiritually because eventually this state of affairs will end. We will transition to the proper model of hierarchy that our Gods follow, and everyone will be allowed to take their rightful place within it.

One last note. If you feel the need to guard your power from others then that simply means you have none. You will be replaced.

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

The situation is that most of what is commonly referred to as "Beta" is simply non leader types that in general do not display any of the traits needed to run anything but they generally fantasize or idolize being in a position only for certain outcomes that they assume "Alphas" or their leaders are getting.

Who is falsely called a "Beta" might however be a guide or important person for something else, that is decided by astrology. With the proper guidance, they can also lead and so on.

Our present day world is literally run from kikes and cucks all over this, with everyone wanting to rise to positions without any merit or development.

Really capable people are blocked from ever attaining a position or leadership and therefore nothing progresses. People who also envision to become "leaders" oftentimes only envision this for personal issues and because they are defunct and they want to attack others.

Since that was not mentioned in your post, which merely illustrated the bad shit coming from weak higher classes, we must also know that the lower "Classes" are also filled with bogus delusions and stupidity. In general as I observe in life, most of the "Plebians" of the soul are only doing demands, wanting things ready, and just complain.

Eventually as they do they destroy everything since they try to skip from the side door the reality necessitated to have a track record of being useful and truly classifying as a leader. If they finally make it which is oftentimes based on subterfuge, they destroy everything that they might happen to "lead".

What is even worse over the years that I have observed is that most people do not understand in this world that formations and hierarchy is absolutely necessary and it comes as a net win for everyone, not a net loss.

A so called "Gatekeeping" situation generally arises out of weakness. At the same time on higher levels there is also an understanding of what it truly takes to do something versus what people assume or think that it does.

Even with the Romans and others most of history is falsified. In Egypt "socially upwards movement" was a reality, and all one had to do is show themselves to excel. This is historically proven but jews are still lying that somehow these societies denied those of "not noble birth" which is all pseudohistorical bogus based on mere assumptions.

If there was no "Upwards movement" the jews who were bottom rung and infiltrators of society would have never made it into any deciding office in any of these civilizations as they simply were not into "Noble Families".

Commonly I am attacked by infiltrators in regards to why so many people and so many more are being given privileges or powers and so on. But that is the only way people can actually evolve.

In regards to the other hoax that many useless people like, ie, that "Powers that be are keeping them down", their perceived value has to meet realistic value in order for this to be reversed in the real world. Most people just have a bogus idea about themselves that is backed up by nothing in the real world.

For example, useless idiots that cannot answer a few questions or do a task properly are going to be really jealous someone else is moderator or a JoS Guardian, but they themselves are literally doing nothing.

Another major problem is that many people falsely perceive that others do not "want them to become better" while they themselves are not doing much and therefore they aren't becoming better merely by their own hand. That is very common in our society and as a mental mechanism is keeping many people back.

All Gentile hierarchies that were based on the Gods did not have these problems. Yet many of these problems persist because these problems exist inherently in our society because of delusion and the enemy.

 

[Elite]

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Awesome response, High Priest!

 

[Jrvan]

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All the classes in society are shit right now, as you said. Things won't have a chance to get better until enemy programs are removed from society. I fear a future where a generally good higher class is still contaminated with elements that prefer complacency and stagnation over growth of their people. I hope it won't be that way with arrogant people who value job security more than the good of the whole, or worse, rampant nepotism.

It is the duty of the higher class to nurture the lower class. Naturally, the "higher class" right now which is the true higher class cannot really do so in mainstream society due to being blocked from positions of leadership. That is why we have the JoS for that purpose now, to nurture souls that should rise in life and are ready to rise.

Indeed, one should always prove themselves. Only the worthy who work hard should rise. I couldn't help myself from speculating on the past even though history is mostly jewed. I do think there was a strong effort made from the Gens families and all to keep Rome stabilized for the folk even during heavy jewish infiltration and subversion efforts upon the populace. Things weren't perfect, and who could have expected them to be? For what it was, Rome was amazing.

One of the biggest points I want to bring is that stability should be balanced with opportunities for growth. I definitely realize that most "plebeians" are not meant to rise from their quagmire of filth any time soon. They lack the spark which is needed internally to even begin growing spiritually. Most are not ready to assume leadership roles.

The rare plebeian that manages to rise a bit only to be shot back down and crushed by conservative types is what breaks my heart. The doors for growth must always remain open. And they are now, thanks to the JoS.

I sensed my post needed refinement, but I didn't know how to go further beyond the main points I wanted to express. Thank you for touching the angles I missed, or perhaps didn't cover enough. Your elaboration is also very informative.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

Wow.

You got off the toilet bowl to write another essay about how good it is to be a beta, and of course you are obviously taking shots at certain individuals that have given you a well earned spanking through this post.

Let’s see your advancement then you can make a post like this and have it be taken seriously. Or maybe “flowers of Adonis” will explain it to us.

 

[HPS Lydia]

For example, useless idiots that cannot answer a few questions or do a task properly are going to be really jealous someone else is moderator or a JoS Guardian, but they themselves are literally doing nothing.

Exactly. I am a JG because I've put nearly 12 years into helping people, and have been involved in multiple projects for the JoS.

Whereas there are people who never bother to help or do work here, yet they think they should be off mod (off mod is only for those who actively help others, as far as I know anyway), and want positions themselves. Without ever earning it.

Mindset and perspective, people. Very important. Meditate on that.

 

[Jrvan]

Wow.

You got off the toilet bowl to write another essay about how good it is to be a beta, and of course you are obviously taking shots at certain individuals that have given you a well earned spanking through this post.

Let’s see your advancement then you can make a post like this and have it be taken seriously. Or maybe “flowers of Adonis” will explain it to us.

It's a commentary on society. I was taking shots at rat politicians and such.

 

[Dahaarkan]

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For example, useless idiots that cannot answer a few questions or do a task properly are going to be really jealous someone else is moderator or a JoS Guardian, but they themselves are literally doing nothing.

Exactly. I am a JG because I've put nearly 12 years into helping people, and have been involved in multiple projects for the JoS.

Whereas there are people who never bother to help or do work here, yet they think they should be off mod (off mod is only for those who actively help others, as far as I know anyway), and want positions themselves. Without ever earning it.

Mindset and perspective, people. Very important. Meditate on that.

Just to elaborate on this above, this is all tied to a fundamental misunderstanding of hierarchy and the natural flow of these things.

Many people dream about being in positions of power, leadership and authority, but have no real desire to do anything with it besides having it. This is a problem that infects everywhere from world leaders to mcdonalds managers.

When you have a clown in a position of power or authority, whatever it is that he is managing becomes a circus. I've seen more than once people desperately wanting to be promoted in their work space to a position of authority to make them feel big and important. And when they are given it, they completely crack under the responsibilities and duties this comes with.


A person is worthy of power or authority only if they are capable of making something out of it. I only really have a problem with someone being given something in the case that they end up doing nothing of value with what they've been given. Which is 99% of anyone with power anywhere nowadays.

Those who have power and do nothing of value with it, are not only fundamentally weak and worthless, but should be stripped of all they have. The issue is people nowadays are incapable of recognizing quality leadership, and taking action against worthless leadership.

Authority must be obeyed, or it must be overthrown. Overthrowing corrupt or incompetent figures of authority is essential for making room for, and promoting true and competent leadership. This does not happen nowadays, and people simply obey.

A car cannot move without it's wheels. But if the wheels are broken and inefficient, they must be removed and replaced. Or you're inevitably driving into a disaster.


In the case of the microcosm of JoS, if one desires a shiny title, or forum status, one should consider first what one intends to do with these in the first place. Having a shiny title on it's own means nothing here. And those who are given tools to do something, and do nothing of value with it, are removed from their positions as it should be.

Refer to the several High Priests who were booted. Titles are a hollow thing. What is valued here is one's contributions to the struggle. You do not need a title or a special badge to be someone of importance to the struggle. One should focus on contributing to the struggle, rather than achieving hollow things.

In the case of guardians, literally none of these people were sat there fantasizing about having a shiny medal or title. There were sat there creating things and contributing to the struggle. The title is of secondary importance, but there is a very real and clear reason why these people are picked and put up as examples to follow.

 

[Dahaarkan]

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It is the duty of the higher class to nurture the lower class. Naturally, the "higher class" right now which is the true higher class cannot really do so in mainstream society due to being blocked from positions of leadership. That is why we have the JoS for that purpose now, to nurture souls that should rise in life and are ready to rise.

This ties into true masculinity and one of the reasons masculinity is ruled by the sun. I've always said if you want a role model on masculinity, observe Satan.

Satan shines like a sun and uplifts and elevates everything around and beneath Him. And those which oppose Him are burned to ashes. The sun does not need you, you need the sun. And basking in it's light you are empowered and uplifted.


Such is the fundamental issue with modern leadership that leaders need legions of sheep to uplift them, where true leadership is the other way around, leaders ought to uplift their people and their nation and not the other way around.

The issue is twofold however which because you are not a leader does not mean you can simply follow blindly because it is more comfortable. The non-leader class also have a fundamental role in the structure of Hierarchy which is they must be capable of knowing when their leadership is incompetent or unworthy, and work to remove them.


This is a very simple process you just come together with a bunch of people and you XD the incompetent leadership. Then you find their cousins, their wives and all their little kiddies, their entire fucking family tree, and you XD them as well.

And I guarantee to you the nation in which this process happens, will never see an incompetent leader again. But then nowadays, people will go on twitter and complain, then go back to doing drugs or playing games.

 

[HPS Lydia]

Just to elaborate on this above, this is all tied to a fundamental misunderstanding of hierarchy and the natural flow of these things.

Many people dream about being in positions of power, leadership and authority, but have no real desire to do anything with it besides having it. This is a problem that infects everywhere from world leaders to mcdonalds managers.

When you have a clown in a position of power or authority, whatever it is that he is managing becomes a circus. I've seen more than once people desperately wanting to be promoted in their work space to a position of authority to make them feel big and important. And when they are given it, they completely crack under the responsibilities and duties this comes with.


A person is worthy of power or authority only if they are capable of making something out of it. I only really have a problem with someone being given something in the case that they end up doing nothing of value with what they've been given. Which is 99% of anyone with power anywhere nowadays.

Those who have power and do nothing of value with it, are not only fundamentally weak and worthless, but should be stripped of all they have. The issue is people nowadays are incapable of recognizing quality leadership, and taking action against worthless leadership.

Authority must be obeyed, or it must be overthrown. Overthrowing corrupt or incompetent figures of authority is essential for making room for, and promoting true and competent leadership. This does not happen nowadays, and people simply obey.

A car cannot move without it's wheels. But if the wheels are broken and inefficient, they must be removed and replaced. Or you're inevitably driving into a disaster.


In the case of the microcosm of JoS, if one desires a shiny title, or forum status, one should consider first what one intends to do with these in the first place. Having a shiny title on it's own means nothing here. And those who are given tools to do something, and do nothing of value with it, are removed from their positions as it should be.

Refer to the several High Priests who were booted. Titles are a hollow thing. What is valued here is one's contributions to the struggle. You do not need a title or a special badge to be someone of importance to the struggle. One should focus on contributing to the struggle, rather than achieving hollow things.

In the case of guardians, literally none of these people were sat there fantasizing about having a shiny medal or title. There were sat there creating things and contributing to the struggle. The title is of secondary importance, but there is a very real and clear reason why these people are picked and put up as examples to follow.

Very true. What one does is what matters. There are, and have been, many members here who have made wonderful contributions to our community

 

[CaspianTheDreamer]

In the true Satanic society EVERYONE has a use and a role they must fulfill in order to keep their volk breathing and prosperous. Their duties wont be done out of pure desire for money or just to " get off" because of the society kikes have created. It'll be the love and the bond between the individual and the volk that will drive them to work as perfectly as possible and enjoy it.