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GakunGak said:
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I'm an idiot when it comes to finances, stocks and trading, crypto, silver ends the fed and all that stuff, but if I ever get myself not to be lazy to learn that stuff, my first transaction (such is the intent) will be the donation.

I will do my best to provide at least some regular education [so that Spiritual Satanists can have some instruction], and so that our own can be at least a little more protected. Like all areas in life, reading these things and trying to learn them also bears fruit of course.
 
Zombieboy said:
As for “stealing from donations” rather it be any of the clergy who have dedicated their lives to this cause.
Even if they used the money for something in their personal life I don’t see the issue with that at all. Their time in energy is spent helping all of us and furthering the movement. They could instead focus that energy instead on personal gain. If donations help the people that do everything they can to help us I would hardly consider that “stealing” delivering the most important information in the planet , helping us prepare for world events, delivering the knowledge from the Gods, assisting us with our development and working in alignment with Satans will should be among the highest paying jobs. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. I would gladly donate even if it was just for the clergy to use for luxury . ...

I believe every Satanist, unless they have made a certain lifestyle choice, should be at least comfortable in their life with all necessities covered. That is however, a long road to attain, but I believe in this goal. This is sort of like how every SS should know about Magick and the related things.

HPS Maxine has never done this, and I know this fully. I find it rather disappointing that many people think in this way. There are some things in the context of personal sustainance, but HPS Maxine has worked for all her life [and therefore had fruits of labor, whatever these were, out of very hard work].

There is no idle eater in the JoS, nor anyone who would expect to live only from donations, let alone Donations that are not enough to sustain a regular lifestyle, are irregular, or sometimes don't arrive at all. Yet many are delusional and imagine things that don't exist.

HPS Maxine is beyond the need for a palace right now, and when I told her similar things before, she told me not only to not bother, but that she doesn't care. I still believe the same thing however.

To give you an example, check the open wallet that has been a donation wallet for the JoS. There wasn't an one million donation there or anything. The total number of donators has not exceeded, I believe, 10 people for now.

Therefore, I cannot be hearing in delusional bullshit, especially so after having literally sacrificed what is approximately x100 times more than I could ever get in a return.

In regards to my personal case which is known by many of my close associates and friends over the years, I certainly do not have the need to live out of this. I have always been laborious, well sustained, and capable to building businesses or working without hassles and complaints involved.

If I seeked a life of luxury the easiest thing for me to do would be simply to walk of, or something similar. Due to standing, I always had "offers" by the enemy, and these include many which would provide mind-boggling wealth or golden toilets. Not that long ago, I was offered [as per usual with the enemy] a mind boggling amount of money in order to abandon my position on the JoS. I have been offered from the time I was 18 to enter the Freemasons and all sorts of other things. There is a long list.

I don't give a single shit about any of this, however.

For the satisfaction of my personal "desires", I can attain all the things that people envision I would attain from closely non-existent donations by my personal effort. Personally, I have made a decision that all my existence is going to be 90% of Satan's benefit and then 10% for my own personal benefit, and I have applied this in all areas of my life, even in the most personal decisions.

Certain "Personal" things, such as research materials, or books, are clearly stated to be necessary in the JoS donation page for about 20 years now. The reflected value of the personal analysis of these is reflected with the community. My idea is to also reflect anything, be this my experience or knowledge, onto the community at any given time.
 
Dark Lawyer said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Do not worry with new knowledge, instruction, and the Rituals, many will enter a way into prosperity, even people with their back on the wall will eventually get some breathers. It's a bit uphill but it will happen.

You wrote four months ago: "I know how difficult the situation is, this is why we are ramping up the wealth ritual for everybody. These will help, yet everyone must also do their best as the enemy is causing financial mayhem globally and that's on purpose."

Unfortunately, the situation has only got worse since then. Let's hope that in the uncertain, undefined, distant future, pushed further and further and further and further and further away, everything will be better.

Meanwhile the Jews are moving forward like a steam locomotive, and we are watching happily.

I wouldn't say we are watching happily. Everyday our brothers and sisters fight a beast that has done nothing but accumulate power unrivaled for almost 2000 years. This beast can't just be extinguished like a candle, it needs to be driven by it's own momentum into the ground, and then when it's on it's back we will go in for the final blow.

If the JOS needs additional financial support then by the Gods we should do what we can when we can. I myself am already looking into how to use crypto and plan a budget so I can donate monthly.
 
cobra has (almost) sold his organs to keep this place going..

only if u people knew...
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
I truly understand your efforts but you must understand the underlying thing of importance in my post is not reflected in your reply. Congratulations on your achievements in Academia. You are not the only one. We have many in high places in Academia and everyone has to suffer similar circumstances, which look like an indefinite loop, which later on bleeds financially.
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Thanks for the thorough answer, I will think about it. I apologize for my grumpiness, I'm at a low point and can't see a way out.
 
Dark Lawyer said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
I truly understand your efforts but you must understand the underlying thing of importance in my post is not reflected in your reply. Congratulations on your achievements in Academia. You are not the only one. We have many in high places in Academia and everyone has to suffer similar circumstances, which look like an indefinite loop, which later on bleeds financially.
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Thanks for the thorough answer, I will think about it. I apologize for my grumpiness, I'm at a low point and can't see a way out.

Start applying the things in the JoS very seriously, and see what you notice. But you must pay attention to what is stated in the reply.

There *IS* a way out. Maybe this way out is to get all your skills and degrees, and move outside of your Country for example, to see a better life elsewhere. But you must find it and bring this to you. I wish you the best of luck.
 
Dark Lawyer said:
Thanks for the thorough answer, I will think about it. I apologize for my grumpiness, I'm at a low point and can't see a way out.

What problems, in particular?
 
Dark Lawyer said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
I truly understand your efforts but you must understand the underlying thing of importance in my post is not reflected in your reply. Congratulations on your achievements in Academia. You are not the only one. We have many in high places in Academia and everyone has to suffer similar circumstances, which look like an indefinite loop, which later on bleeds financially.
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Thanks for the thorough answer, I will think about it. I apologize for my grumpiness, I'm at a low point and can't see a way out.

I know this probably doesn't mean much coming from a stranger on the internet but I am sorry things are so hard right now.

You do seem to have an inner strength, though. Perhaps it is not true that it's always darkest before the dawn, maybe that's an overly optimistic and passive view of history. But perhaps when it's dark we can be more keenly aware of the fire inside of us, however faint it seems. Do whatever it takes to kindle this flame, preserve it and strengthen it until it becomes like an inferno. Never lose sight of what we hope for no matter how hopeless things seem.
 
Zombieboy said:
As for “stealing from donations” rather it be any of the clergy who have dedicated their lives to this cause.
Even if they used the money for something in their personal life I don’t see the issue with that at all. Their time in energy is spent helping all of us and furthering the movement. They could instead focus that energy instead on personal gain. If donations help the people that do everything they can to help us I would hardly consider that “stealing” delivering the most important information in the planet , helping us prepare for world events, delivering the knowledge from the Gods, assisting us with our development and working in alignment with Satans will should be among the highest paying jobs. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. I would gladly donate even if it was just for the clergy to use for luxury . They deserve it for working harder than any of us do. For the most meaningful and important goals for our people.

Real, when I say this, I mean REAL Clergy of the Gods, and people close to them, past a point, nothing really can be "that" satisfying except of staying close to the Gods, with whatever that this entails. This might sound weird, but this is the life of real Clergy after a point. The satisfaction of this cannot really compare to anything. I don't derive pleasure from merely eating, than let's say, making a successful post that helped thousands of our own people, or furthered Father Satan's positive presence on this world. This might be difficult to articulate when people think from a highly materialistic standpoint, which is in anyway, very natural to do and I don't blame.

Zombieboy said:
it’s sad that the Pedophile in a dress can sit on a golden toilet for leading a program that is destructive to our people but the idea of a H.P using donation money in anyway could be considered “stealing” even if it’s payment for their time . Everything in my life that’s good I credit to the powers of Hell. I feel blessed that things In my life didn’t turn out very differently. And I’ve hardly been the poster child for what a “good Satanist “ should be.

You are hitting many nails on the head with this reply. There are literally twitch girls that make millions yearly, for literally nothing but bending over on a camera in front of sexually starved men. Existentially, this has absolutely literally no value whatsoever.

Therefore, society, goes to the shitter.

Regardless, people will complain that other people who bring them spiritual knowledge etc, or have tasks such as our own, might for example get something out of it. Our value system as a society is distorted, and this distortion, has reflected itself upon anything. That is why this distorted value is collapsing the globe right now.

Zombieboy said:
I owe everything that I am to the powers of hell and the information I learned from the Jos. It would be an honour to give back in any capacity, be it financial or otherwise . S.S have been given tools and knowledge that are priceless.

You have a very good understanding, and yes, I pretty much feel the same way. I am here to eventually repay the Gods for the help they have given me. This extends into a soul adobe. I am not disappointing in another areas either.

Zombieboy said:
Nothing I could ever give back would amount to how many blessings come from this path. Life dosnt have to be perfect for me to see that. I also know as much as I may see there are countless blessings and help that we don’t see . It’s easy to get shot in the leg and complain when you didn’t know there was a shield protecting you from getting shot in the face ..It’s sad to see others feel differently. Even if it’s the minority.

Only if people understood how deep any of this goes, everything would be different. I have thrown myself into all of this due to major understanding above anything else, personally speaking. I also too feel like the favor of the Gods to care about us cannot be "Repaid back", nor they want this, but I want this to be the case in order for them to at least see that we haven't been ungrateful simpletons and that our community did our best to build bigger things for them.

Zombieboy said:
Donations are for “advancement of Satanism” so even if the donations went to pay HP so that they didn’t have to get a job on top of this and can dedicate more time to the cause that’s still supporting the advancement of Satanism. I’m not saying that’s what they use it for I just don’t see how it could be seen as a bad thing. I agree in the opinion that Maxine should live in a palace for all she has done. How about we go back to how life was before we found Jos and the Gods, if tomorow this all goes away I’m sure everybody would be more than happy to give whatever they had to bring it back

To be realistic, with all the psychic warfare and everything else, let alone the actual lifestyle of being a full on Clergy [which takes years to build up to], certain things start mattering less and less. Life, however, still goes on, and the thing is, If I was not blessed with immense powers by the Gods, which came out of titanic efforts, then so much might have been impossible.

This also includes the highest level of difficulty of leading even a "normal life" when one is in said targeted position for psychic attacks or even offline harassment from the enemy, and so on, so forth. There are many things I cannot simply explain and would rather leave unstated.

There is nothing I would trade for the spiritual serenity after advancement, for example. Yet most people think in terms prior to advancement, which can make for confusion. This has to do with each person's personal nature, through which they later interpret the world and maybe even my own motives or anyone else's motives for that liking.

I will say that I have been emotionally moved by your comment, especially the last line. That is also what I think to myself everyday, and it makes anything and everything worth it. Especially considering the future of this.
 
Draco Ignis said:
HP Hooded Cobra can I mail you? I have to ask you something about donations.

Yes, of course, do mail at [email protected] for Donation specific matters, or even my personal e-mail. Thanks.
 
Weassel said:
I thought of donating to JOS at times but I... didn't do it, kinda feel ashamed but anyways.

What I wanted to say is that i think i am missing something, when trying to donate through the JOS site it still appear to donate with debit card or PayPal, is there another place to donate?
Oh good Gods I am so sorry and I am an idiot because for some reason (maybe skipping to the comments) I haven't seen the link to donate with the crypto, ugh...
I will see how much I can donate after I will check with the crypto given the fact that I have 0 experience with it.
 
HailVictory88 said:
I know this probably doesn't mean much coming from a stranger on the internet but I am sorry things are so hard right now.

You do seem to have an inner strength, though. Perhaps it is not true that it's always darkest before the dawn, maybe that's an overly optimistic and passive view of history. But perhaps when it's dark we can be more keenly aware of the fire inside of us, however faint it seems. Do whatever it takes to kindle this flame, preserve it and strengthen it until it becomes like an inferno. Never lose sight of what we hope for no matter how hopeless things seem.

Thanks for the encouragement, it feels good!
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Start applying the things in the JoS very seriously, and see what you notice. But you must pay attention to what is stated in the reply.

There *IS* a way out. Maybe this way out is to get all your skills and degrees, and move outside of your Country for example, to see a better life elsewhere. But you must find it and bring this to you. I wish you the best of luck.

Thank you. Going abroad as a lawyer is not an option, but maybe things will be better in Hungary. Although I don't see much chance of that.
 
GoldenxChild1 said:
I wouldn't say we are watching happily. Everyday our brothers and sisters fight a beast that has done nothing but accumulate power unrivaled for almost 2000 years. This beast can't just be extinguished like a candle, it needs to be driven by it's own momentum into the ground, and then when it's on it's back we will go in for the final blow.

If the JOS needs additional financial support then by the Gods we should do what we can when we can. I myself am already looking into how to use crypto and plan a budget so I can donate monthly.

Keep up the fight. I've also been exploring bitcoin for a while, but haven't gotten into it yet. For one thing, I don't understand it yet. On the other hand, I prefer to spend my money on durable food etc. now, I can't collect bitcoins.
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
" post_id=336486 time=1647866075 user_id=21286]Based on what each of these rituals and RTR's sets out to accomplish, we are doing fine and on track. If that was not the case, the Gods would update us.

I must ask, what else do you propose that we change? I understand you are worried here, but we have been told countless times that the situation will appear worse before it gets better. We are to remain steadfast.

Please continue communications with Satan or your GD if you are having doubts, questions, concerns, etc.

You are right, I have no suggestions. You are doing well in the fight. It's not you who should change, it's me: getting involved in RTR, as I planned to do last year after the 47-day meditation program.

I haven't been able to talk to Satan for a while. I can't say anything.
 
DOUBLE CHECK THE CRYPTO WALLET ADDRESS BEFORE SENDING ANY CRYPTO!

I can’t stress this enough, make sure that the wallet address where you are sending your crypto to is 100% correct.

Otherwise you will lose crypto by sending money nowhere and it can’t be recovered.

Also if any of you are serious in investing into crypto currency then I suggest you get a hardware wallet and keeping a large majority of your coins off exchanges (hot wallets) and store them in hardware wallets (cold wallets) to avoid theft by hackers or scammers.
 
Cosmic6999 said:
How come we got to
Donate for this knowledge y’all have us this sound like Christianity all over again like help me understand why? Is that if this is the true Satanism why we must donate it’s like donating to churches y’all say study the exposing Christianity and showed us it’s false so why donate?

HPHC explained in another post, within the thread, why he feels it is acceptable to ask for donations.

What is happening here is not the same as a church or other context, as the knowledge at JOS is not behind a paywall, plus its value is infinitely greater than any other place. This should be evident through the results of applying said knowledge, which everyone can achieve.
 
Dark Lawyer said:
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I've been meditating every day since then (unfortunately I only have the energy for the minimum program: AC, AP, VM). In the 40 (47) days pdf you promised many results, unfortunately I don't see them in my life.

I don't really understand what are you expecting. I'm puzzled. You admit doing the bare minimum If you do the bare minimum at university, do you expect to barely get a pass in exams or do you expect to get top grades and rank first top of your cohort? Actually, you are doing less than the bare minimum, not even doing the RTRs. In school, you would fail your exams, yet here you are expecting to bear many fruits.


And I am glad that the RTRs are working... I see. They work exactly as the Prime Minister of Hungary says: "Hungary goes forward, not backwards..." I will devote my time to RTR when you guys who are doing it can show me even one concrete result in the physical world.

Oh, I see. Few people doing RTRs in Hungary. You're not one of them and somehow you want to the government to make a u-turn on negative policies. Is that realistic? The u-turn will happen sometime but it will not be soon. It will be manifested when enough power is forked out. The RTRs may affect the world as a whole, but specific locations pertain to the people participating in those areas: the more power output, the more results, which means you need either some very powerful people or strength in numbers. And I'm not saying this to insult Hungarian SS. It's just the way it is.

You want to hear about results?
:arrow: 18 countries have dropped all covid regulations, both domestic ones and the ones for travellers
:arrow: We escaped wide-scale war multiple times. One of those was when Trump was elected, which prevented Killary from messing up in the Middle East and Northern Africa. Trump single-handedly stalled wide-scale wars. The USA has probably the highest SS population, and quite a few powerful SS, including Lady Maxine.
:arrow: The coronacircus didn't go as planned and they had to switch to war, which is last resort for them. Why is it last resort? They tell you in Revelations: they want a certain number of slaves for each kike. A world war goes against that plan and displeases their true masters. A lot of their original plan can be found in the documents shared by Jack.
:arrow: The war is starting quite slowly, as we are slowing it down as much as possible. It is inevitable that some form of wide-scale destruction needs to manifest so we can rebuild a positive, healthy and uplifting society, because the current system is too cancerous to be salvaged. I am not sure there is a single element that is worth salvaging and, if there is, the poison has already corrupted vital parts to the point that even what would be worth salvaging cannot be salvaged.
:arrow: Unprecedented numbers of people have woken up to varying degrees of the enemy agenda, so much that they had to switch to war plans and accelerate the economic crisis. If you knew the ACTUAL number of unvaccinated people in each country, it would come as a shock to you and everyone else. It's nowhere near the high levels the enemy is using in propaganda. Only the most brainwashed of people took the job and those who risked losing their jobs. In places where healthcare and social care were the only mandated industries, unvaxxed people are a lot.

There is no physical evidence for anything I stated in the arrow points. It's a different type of awareness that it's needed to understand it, a type of awareness you will develop in this path if you stay consistent and stop with the doubting.

Your situation is not that bad. Think you still have a roof above your head and a wage. Some people have lost that and struggling to get back on truck. If you stop panicking and clean yourself more, you will see things differently and find a way to grow out of this.
 
Zombieboy said:
As for “stealing from donations” rather it be any of the clergy who have dedicated their lives to this cause.
Even if they used the money for something in their personal life I don’t see the issue with that at all. Their time in energy is spent helping all of us and furthering the movement. They could instead focus that energy instead on personal gain. If donations help the people that do everything they can to help us I would hardly consider that “stealing” delivering the most important information in the planet , helping us prepare for world events, delivering the knowledge from the Gods, assisting us with our development and working in alignment with Satans will should be among the highest paying jobs. Unfortunately that isn’t the case. I would gladly donate even if it was just for the clergy to use for luxury . They deserve it for working harder than any of us do. For the most meaningful and important goals for our people.. it’s sad that the Pedophile in a dress can sit on a golden toilet for leading a program that is destructive to our people but the idea of a H.P using donation money in anyway could be considered “stealing” even if it’s payment for their time . Everything in my life that’s good I credit to the powers of Hell. I feel blessed that things In my life didn’t turn out very differently. And I’ve hardly been the poster child for what a “good Satanist “ should be.
I owe everything that I am to the powers of hell and the information I learned from the Jos. It would be an honour to give back in any capacity, be it financial or otherwise . S.S have been given tools and knowledge that are priceless. Nothing I could ever give back would amount to how many blessings come from this path. Life dosnt have to be perfect for me to see that. I also know as much as I may see there are countless blessings and help that we don’t see . It’s easy to get shot in the leg and complain when you didn’t know there was a shield protecting you from getting shot in the face ..It’s sad to see others feel differently. Even if it’s the minority.
Donations are for “advancement of Satanism” so even if the donations went to pay HP so that they didn’t have to get a job on top of this and can dedicate more time to the cause that’s still supporting the advancement of Satanism. I’m not saying that’s what they use it for I just don’t see how it could be seen as a bad thing. I agree in the opinion that Maxine should live in a palace for all she has done. How about we go back to how life was before we found Jos and the Gods, if tomorow this all goes away I’m sure everybody would be more than happy to give whatever they had to bring it back

Dam Right bro
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Dark Lawyer said:
Thanks for the thorough answer, I will think about it. I apologize for my grumpiness, I'm at a low point and can't see a way out.

What problems, in particular?

A war is raging in a neighbouring country.

The Hungarian forint has depreciated a lot, and there is rampant inflation. The overheads could triple, and by the end of the year we may not even be able to pay them.

And by the end of the year, we are likely to have one of the worst famines in modern history due to a shortage of propane and fertiliser.

And in the meantime, more and more countries are bringing back covid measures. There's a serious chance that if I get a higher paying job, they'll reintroduce the 2-3 mandatory vaccinations in a few months. For the past two years I have been fighting the covid circus on several fronts, resisting the cabaret. The result: here we are in 2022, and it's even shittier.

Unfortunately, I neglected the preparation and only started two years ago. It was a short time to be able to prepare seriously on a small budget. So now, as I have written, I am helpless and concern to see what will happen to my parents who live on a small pension. Our pets. And the person who is most important to me, who needs regular medical control and who also lives on little money. If I had started preparing much earlier, I could have helped them and myself. And I am not happy that all the people mentioned have had 2 or 3 vaccinations.

In my own life, I hit rock bottom because I was faced with the consequences of my bad choices. Because of my past mistakes, I had to permanently give up four things that were important for a normal, meaningful human life. This should not be accepted calmly and serenely. That would be xian stupidity. I bitterly resigned myself to it, my cheerfulness and momentum faded. Of course I can do RTR, yoga and meditation. But my youth is gone untapped and I have no perspective. I am tired, moody and unmotivated.
 
Fanboy said:
SagittarianMage said:
I'm actually about to potentially start a new job which will give me way more pay than I'm used to and will allow me to build finances. It isn't official yet, but the job offers a decent balance between work and personal life.
My literal plan, once I dig myself out of some debt issues, was to learn how to use crytpo currency as the enemy deserves nothing from me.
I wanted to ask trusted SS about some of the best ways to learn "how to" on crytpo and I had already planned on donating once this job comes through, as I owe JOS for empowering me and possibly JOS is why the job chance is availble to me in the first place.
I gave energies to Volac and drew His sigil and included Him in ritual. Not long after, the availability of this new job came to me. I'm only waiting on the employer to schedule a physical and give me a start date. My interview went great and I expect to be hired, though that is no reason for me to slack off. I'm prepared for any outcome.
Hail Satan!
Eternally grateful for His presence and presence of the Gods!
Great job bro :)
Thank you! :D
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Cosmic6999 said:
How come we got to
Donate for this knowledge y’all have us this sound like Christianity all over again like help me understand why? Is that if this is the true Satanism why we must donate it’s like donating to churches y’all say study the exposing Christianity and showed us it’s false so why donate?

HPHC explained in another post, within the thread, why he feels it is acceptable to ask for donations.

What is happening here is not the same as a church or other context, as the knowledge at JOS is not behind a paywall, plus its value is infinitely greater than any other place. This should be evident through the results of applying said knowledge, which everyone can achieve.

Really is that so? Still don’t mean anything though you know
 
I tried to register at Binance and they ask for your data, your phone number and verification with QR code.
Are there other websites where you can buy Bitcoin anonymously and do it from your computer without using a smartphone?
 
Dark Lawyer said:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
I truly understand your efforts but you must understand the underlying thing of importance in my post is not reflected in your reply. Congratulations on your achievements in Academia. You are not the only one. We have many in high places in Academia and everyone has to suffer similar circumstances, which look like an indefinite loop, which later on bleeds financially.
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Thanks for the thorough answer, I will think about it. I apologize for my grumpiness, I'm at a low point and can't see a way out.

Don't give up, bro! Never. I know well how hard is here, in Hungary...
You are not alone. And also you are not alone in other sense too, as don't forget that we (ss people) are together in this. Even if we do not know each other personally, I am also rooting for you, comrade.
 
Cfecit said:
Typically this saying implies that there are two people where they agree, you know, you do this and I reciprocate in other etc. The issue here is has there been this actual agreement? It takes two people to make an agreement valid, not just one person. If there wasn't this step, it means that you volunteered, and therefore implied that you can't force or anything else on the other party to do this or that, because you did it all on your own, Satan didn't have a "say in the matter".

Have I agreed to get certain services from the state?
No. I haven't. Due to property taxes, which are taxes on services not yet rendered, I'm forced to render service in one way or another to pay property taxes. If the state will not take my services, I'm going to be unable to pay tax and thus lose property. From my point of view, if I offer the state a service and they don't take it, I should be freed from paying taxes. If they don't accept that agreement, then I'll find a way to force my services on them one way or another.

What's your position on property taxes?

If others find it fine to force their services on me, then I consider it fine to force my services on others.

One could say that because the state is mightier than the individual, they get to decide what's fine and what's not fine. In which case the only morality is might is right and anything goes.

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:

HPHC what is your position on the matter? Sooner or later this will have to be addressed.
 
Cosmic6999 said:
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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Cosmic6999 said:
How come we got to
Donate for this knowledge y’all have us this sound like Christianity all over again like help me understand why? Is that if this is the true Satanism why we must donate it’s like donating to churches y’all say study the exposing Christianity and showed us it’s false so why donate?

HPHC explained in another post, within the thread, why he feels it is acceptable to ask for donations.

What is happening here is not the same as a church or other context, as the knowledge at JOS is not behind a paywall, plus its value is infinitely greater than any other place. This should be evident through the results of applying said knowledge, which everyone can achieve.

Really is that so? Still don’t mean anything though you know

Nothing means anything to the person who doesn't understand value or wants to reciprocate any value given. That is not for these people as specified in this post. It is by natural default most of these people will skip away for aforesaid reasons. These types of people never return anything to anyone, be this time, effort, or a great work, or anything whatsoever.

Clearly, the Gods want you to have everything too. Inner morals and values differ here.

Thankfully, in this world, there are even people who don't think in the same way and want to have exchanges of giving and taking. And that's how about life evolves and things grow.

Again, anything explained here is clearly explained that it wouldn't touch certain individuals who do not have a comprehension on it.
 
Cosmic6999 said:
Really is that so? Still don’t mean anything though you know

Sorry, what are you referring to?

I understand that you had some questions, maybe trouble with your meditations earlier. If so, this may be preventing you from fully realizing the value of the knowledge given to us by the Gods, and maintained by JOS. If this is the case, this should really be addressed sooner or later.
 
I've been trying to figure out how to make a bitcoin donation. I watched explanatory videos in my native language, I didn't understand anything. It's hard for me to understand this bitcoin. I am still new to the age of technology, I grew up educated after a long time (maybe a little primitive). .but close to nature and other aspects that most people (others) do not understand. The problem is that it will take me a long time to understand how this bitcoin system works. I'll probably only be able to make a donation in a year or two. .maybe it would help if someone left me links to information pages or links to videos with explanations of how this works. If it's possible. Thank you.
 
Stormblood said:
Dark Lawyer said:
[...]

I've been meditating every day since then (unfortunately I only have the energy for the minimum program: AC, AP, VM). In the 40 (47) days pdf you promised many results, unfortunately I don't see them in my life.

In my case I can't advance spiritually because my mind has certain blockages and somehow refuses to help me in this regard. Before accusing, we should think about whether our minds are trained enough to move forward or do more. .A lot of information here and on the site helped me understand what is happening to me and my mind in some situations. .I explained a lot of things that I was doing wrong with the help of the information on the site and the forum and it helped me to understand certain things about my mind. It also helped me not to give up. Now, of course, you know best what you live and what works for you or not. .but sometimes our minds limit us for various reasons. At least for me, that's the way it is. Before we accuse, it may be better to try to find the answers for ourselves. .
 
gsfvhsdgfjhsedgfbesd said:
I've been trying to figure out how to make a bitcoin donation. I watched explanatory videos in my native language, I didn't understand anything. It's hard for me to understand this bitcoin. I am still new to the age of technology, I grew up educated after a long time (maybe a little primitive). .but close to nature and other aspects that most people (others) do not understand. The problem is that it will take me a long time to understand how this bitcoin system works. I'll probably only be able to make a donation in a year or two. .maybe it would help if someone left me links to information pages or links to videos with explanations of how this works. If it's possible. Thank you.
- Open up a trading platform site of your choice.

- Create an user to the platform, enter your details, most will ask for id verification and such.

- Once the above process is complete, you can buy with credit cards, bank transfer and so on, depending on the platform.

- Now you should have crypto of your choice. You can choose to transfer it to your desires. For example on your own crypto wallet, or someone elses wallet, in this case JoS wallet.

That is the basics of it.
 
Dark Lawyer said:
GoldenxChild1 said:
I wouldn't say we are watching happily. Everyday our brothers and sisters fight a beast that has done nothing but accumulate power unrivaled for almost 2000 years. This beast can't just be extinguished like a candle, it needs to be driven by it's own momentum into the ground, and then when it's on it's back we will go in for the final blow.

If the JOS needs additional financial support then by the Gods we should do what we can when we can. I myself am already looking into how to use crypto and plan a budget so I can donate monthly.

Keep up the fight. I've also been exploring bitcoin for a while, but haven't gotten into it yet. For one thing, I don't understand it yet. On the other hand, I prefer to spend my money on durable food etc. now, I can't collect bitcoins.

Yea living expenses have been steep with inflation but even donating as much as 25 a month will add up. For example, if 20 members donated 25 a month then that's $6000 a year.
 
Henu the Great said:
gsfvhsdgfjhsedgfbesd said:
I've been trying to figure out how to make a bitcoin donation. I watched explanatory videos in my native language, I didn't understand anything. It's hard for me to understand this bitcoin. I am still new to the age of technology, I grew up educated after a long time (maybe a little primitive). .but close to nature and other aspects that most people (others) do not understand. The problem is that it will take me a long time to understand how this bitcoin system works. I'll probably only be able to make a donation in a year or two. .maybe it would help if someone left me links to information pages or links to videos with explanations of how this works. If it's possible. Thank you.
- Open up a trading platform site of your choice.

- Create an user to the platform, enter your details, most will ask for id verification and such.

- Once the above process is complete, you can buy with credit cards, bank transfer and so on, depending on the platform.

- Now you should have crypto of your choice. You can choose to transfer it to your desires. For example on your own crypto wallet, or someone elses wallet, in this case JoS wallet.

That is the basics of it.


Thank you so much. I was misled. I asked someone (not from the forum) how cryptocurrency works and he told me that I need to learn the scholarship so I can use it. Of course, I didn't tell him the reason why I was interested in this subject. .
 
I was wondering if I donated enough, whether or not I could get my brain healed by a JOS member or Demon.
 
Wotanwarrior said:
I tried to register at Binance and they ask for your data, your phone number and verification with QR code.
Are there other websites where you can buy Bitcoin anonymously and do it from your computer without using a smartphone?
Localbitcoins and bisq.
Although many sellers on localbitcoins ask you for a proof of identity, but I think it's mostly to avoid scams.
You can also go to a bitcoin atm in your country as those are anonymous as far as I know. There's also good sellers in localbitcoins that don't ask any identity proof, but they're more rare.
 
Wotanwarrior said:
I tried to register at Binance and they ask for your data, your phone number and verification with QR code.
Are there other websites where you can buy Bitcoin anonymously and do it from your computer without using a smartphone?

https://www.privacytools.io/#crypto
 
AgainstAllAuthority said:
Cfecit said:
Typically this saying implies that there are two people where they agree, you know, you do this and I reciprocate in other etc. The issue here is has there been this actual agreement? It takes two people to make an agreement valid, not just one person. If there wasn't this step, it means that you volunteered, and therefore implied that you can't force or anything else on the other party to do this or that, because you did it all on your own, Satan didn't have a "say in the matter".

Have I agreed to get certain services from the state?
No. I haven't. Due to property taxes, which are taxes on services not yet rendered, I'm forced to render service in one way or another to pay property taxes. If the state will not take my services, I'm going to be unable to pay tax and thus lose property. From my point of view, if I offer the state a service and they don't take it, I should be freed from paying taxes. If they don't accept that agreement, then I'll find a way to force my services on them one way or another.

What's your position on property taxes?

If others find it fine to force their services on me, then I consider it fine to force my services on others.

One could say that because the state is mightier than the individual, they get to decide what's fine and what's not fine. In which case the only morality is might is right and anything goes.

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:

HPHC what is your position on the matter? Sooner or later this will have to be addressed.

Ciao,
the example you cited, i.e. relationship to state, I find it excessive with our context....being a citizen is one thing, being a Satanist is another, different thing. The first case you have duties and also in the future society there will be a similar system, with taxes etc...as it was in ancient times, for the society to work it is necessary that we take care of each other, like a family...Regarding also time question, the state takes money from you even if they don't use your service, but they do it for future when one day you are unable to provide service to receive assistance.
Unfortunately in this society of these days, there are Jewish infiltrations and etc, that has subverted the healthy functions of society and this leads to people hating the state...unfortunately they are people who do not know, they think the fault is "state" and not those who actually run it, that are jews and their shills.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by property taxes, here in Italy we have taxes on the house of property even if you do not generate income, this is wrong and some politicians who are closer to the ideology NS want a system that put taxes only ON INCOME where you generate, which I find most fair.

I think it is also wrong to make this comparison, otherwise I would ask you then why are the gods and demons doing all this for us? Without them we would already finished, be like grey..And they don't ask us for anything, they just want us to evolve...and you want to forcing someone (Satan, HP or etc) to do for you? I think you should reconsider some aspects and broaden the horizon.
 
gsfvhsdgfjhsedgfbesd said:
Thank you so much. I was misled. I asked someone (not from the forum) how cryptocurrency works and he told me that I need to learn the scholarship so I can use it. Of course, I didn't tell him the reason why I was interested in this subject. .
All you need is an inquisitive mind and preferably access to internet since most of the info can be found from various sites online.
 
Stonesofwisdom said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not targeting, but I hope you don't pocket it and run away when donations reach a certain level. Can you publish an article that gives us confidence in this regard?

Cosmic6999 said:
How come we got to
Donate for this knowledge y’all have us this sound like Christianity all over again like help me understand why? Is that if this is the true Satanism why we must donate it’s like donating to churches y’all say study the exposing Christianity and showed us it’s false so why donate?

As I said above the main reason for increasing neccesity for donations is most likely the expansion of JoS. Multiple sites exactly like the English main one are currently being `built` in other languages (with the German JoS just finished not long ago). These cost money for domains and to mantain and as I said nobody can expect HP Cobra to pay all of this by himself. Without this Joy of Satan stays as it is but in order to increase in power and influence in the world is pivotal to expand to as many people as possible by bringing JoS knowledge to them and in their language instead of waiting for them to come to JoS.

STanBlank said:
I wonder if there is a minimum requirement for the amount of donation?For some reason, I can't buy a lot of BTC or XmR. Will I be allowed to donate a small amount? :?:
I don't think there is a minimum or maximum limit on donations.
 
The Alchemist7 said:
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As I said above the main reason for increasing neccesity for donations is most likely the expansion of JoS. Multiple sites exactly like the English main one are currently being `built` in other languages (with the German JoS just finished not long ago). These cost money for domains and to mantain and as I said nobody can expect HP Cobra to pay all of this by himself. Without this Joy of Satan stays as it is but in order to increase in power and influence in the world is pivotal to expand to as many people as possible by bringing JoS knowledge to them and in their language instead of waiting for them to come to JoS.

...

Certain people falsely assume that I am not included into this.

In fact, I am on the giving end for closely a decade+, way more than what I would like to even explain or seek to elaborate. Not only I am not exempt, the expectations the Gods have out of me are bigger and bigger as time goes.

I am too alongside everyone else, and among the first in line, if not the first in line, and in no way exempt from all of this. In fact, more and more is expected of me. The JoS is the roof above all of our heads, the future of our children and even Gentile spirituality, there is nobody above this. I hold the roof like anyone else. Anything I give, I give with the greatest of all joy, and without any hesitation. NONE.

The difference now is I explain why something is expected out of others too, for reasons of health and growth of the whole task we have undertook. Service, time, or whatever else, it all goes back into the same goal.
 
Cfecit said:
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by property taxes, here in Italy we have taxes on the house of property even if you do not generate income, this is wrong and some politicians who are closer to the ideology NS want a system that put taxes only ON INCOME where you generate, which I find most fair.

I completely agree with this. Income tax is proper and fair, but property tax is not fair. I hate the property tax, and I would fight a civil war just to get rid of it. That's how much it pisses me off. It's so illogical that it makes my head explode.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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