Personally I don't think Shael and Azorm were bad people or trolls or something to that nature. But they got taken in for lack of fanatacism and zealotry.
For example Shael helped me out albeit I regret asking advice. He kinda threatened me with "If you don't ask for help through email I won't reply to you anymore". To which I should have ignored him and not have him reply to my posts. So he kinda guilted me into emailing him.
In reality except in as much as misusing the Venus square and Sun Square i.e. better affirmation, high repetitions of affirmations(10 and 18). I never viewed Azorm or Shael as issues perhaps misguided or lacking in fanaticism but certainly not evil people who are akin to Zola or the people behind Mageson's sudden misguided attempt at sailing a vessel against ours.
slyscorpion said:
I do not talk to her or know what she is doing now. Even with many of the trauma events she spoke of the fact she was not getting better after hours of meditation (all sorts of weird stuff not on the JOS) each day for years is telling.
Not really "telling" in reality, as a matter of fact posthumously to the postings of Azorm I gotta agree with her. For example meditation doesn't work if it did work everyone and their mother would be meditating as a scientific fact. Even if enemy is occupying the planet. For example I got a friend of mines who dedicated like me but never meditated, while he doesn't have the privacy to meditate, I on the other hand do and it has not done anything to do me. Not even cleaning my aura and chakras does anything. He(my friend) exercises as a matter of fact as of this post(November 12th) is his final day exercising after an 8-week schedule to rest for 1-week(9 days). I funny enough sent him an email asking him if he did it to be grounded or has it balanced his life out. And he said he did it not to ground but to overground, he was already grounded he is an externalizing person(to the point he doesn't internalize nor gains answers from his own feelings but rather a general consensus if a bunch of articles state the same thing he takes that as the most logical answer) but he pushed it into grounding further along.
Not to create issues but meditation has never worked for me nor done anything for me. Even doing Squares even spamming the Jupiter square(which I performed 4-5 squares, funny enough most people who reply on squares state doing 1-2 maybe 3 squares is considered spamming the squares are significantly powerful to the point even a single square does tremendous you might only need 1 or 2 sun squares for example to bypass negative hardships by blocking out hardship transits) has not done anything for me.
I found the JoS at 12 years old 2003, dedicated, did meditations for about a few days. And that is it, it's funny looking at other people. What made them advance? Is it inborn? Is it astrological chart? Is it that they are more hardcore and more fanatical and zealatrous than I am?
All I know is I don't want to state a Saxtanist(Xtian-Satanist or Satanist-Xtian). As I don't blend or mix xtianity with Satanism, like Marilyn Manson states "I don't hate a one true God but the God of the people I hate"(not that I'm a big M.M. fan just a few of his songs are alright). But it seems to me like I'm just a Theoretical Satanist.
For example I've been wanting to Astral Project for decades now. Going to sleep I just want to sleep and the day in some cases less so than my school years when I had to waste time going to retarded school. The day would fall on me so a combination of day falling on me and wanting to just sleep and get rested. Made me go "Why the hell should I even practice Astral Projection?!"; I've done it all the string, falling down, rolling around, even dream projections whereby I'm dreaming and perform a blind projection. Like literally like many of my dreams that are just darkness or the sleep state is falling on me and my eyes closing and opening create windows of dream blindness and dream visibility with heavy almost drugged out transitions of dreams.
Never been able to Astral Project but funny enough much like I gather information. Some have astral projected or made up the fact of astral projected(never know if some members are lying) and funny enough I just added information to my data banks on Astral Projection.
IF Astral Projection is how my spiritual life it's just a mental curiosity and just theoretical in other words. I hate to state "It was real because it was in my mind" because certainly I want to experience the real World especially considering my astrological chart states I'm an extreme internalizing person who is tripping balls while trying to walk with one leg in the air. Then funny enough the only reason I read or study astral projection from the JoS members is just to gain their perspective. For example I think it was Stormblood who mentioned it can take a decade of AP to develop basic characteristics and it isn't till Kundalini risen when you arrive at the ultimate speed which is instantaneous transmission with no transmission time in between. And even then it'll probably take a few more years to understand Kundalini risen Astral Projection capacity due to being another new World opened up.
In simplest terms I'm just a theoretical Satanist. My best guess is Azorm is also theoretical meditation didn't work, JoS didn't work for her, perhaps she/he loves the NS part but without an NS Axis front. In other words the path of the NS/SS is the broken-heart way. The allies destroyed NS and created copious lies to which some people like George Lincoln Rockwell or the 2009 British WW2 Veterans group meeting occurred both of these two groups and others realize "Holy shit we committed a great sin in destroying the Axis saviors they were our saving grace". Same for Satanism like the old statement if the Judeo-bolshevik christians knew burning down Rome and all the great civilizations is the cause of their glorious enslavement they may have thought twice and may have realize we need to destroy christianity and the jews as they want to enslave the World.
In the end Azorm is simply much like me a Theoretical Satanist. They merely want to fit in the Satanic/Nazi side much akin to a person who grows up hating certain politics only to study said politics and go "Hey this isn't as bad as I thought if anything it makes sense". For example understanding that despite liberal degeneracy, certain liberal policies are propagatative towards individual liberties. With that said not all individual liberties should be promoted and there is also the NS main principle of "Common good vs individual situation".
Azorm, Shael, and Mageson are simply people that are not fanatical, zealous, or willing to work. In other words lets say JoS is fake and trolls just to push our movement. In other words as one person put it that I talked to. Basically they said you combine spirituality with politics to push NS and SS unto people for what reasons should people not have freedom to choose. Because the choice of people should not be available to make sure that NS/SS is the only thing around as in the past. In the past there were various schools of Paganism with differences in certain things but just limited and with the Gods around these differences were merely racial-national teachings ORION and Supremacy of specific racial-nesting grounds.
In the end I'm sure people reading this will assume "Oh Gear88 is disillusion and crazy". Maybe so but at least I stay with this system. I've been NS since 1997 when I was 7 years old so in 2022 my 25th Anniversary being NS and in 2023 I'll celebrate my 20th Anniversary being SS. Funny enough non of it has worked and non of it has helped my life. But that is what I am NS/SS, life sucks, live is a worthless piece of shit that doesn't work. But it's my choice to be NS and SS and be fanatical and zealous.
Again NS/SS has not saved my life nor done anything for my life. But I think that is the simple situation with Mageson, Azorm, and Shael. They never realized you can be NS/SS and not do anything. In other words much like some people state they are christian and when asked further they are actually atheist. So they state they are atheist xtians. Funny they could have easily kept their mouth shut and just gone along with NS/SS and just be NS/SS in theoretical. And when I mean NS/SS in theory not like xtian-atheist no more like just invent NS/SS stuff for our consumption.
I guess some people will state Gear88 your quite the mental masturbator aren't you. Maybe so but I figure just knowing for the sake of knowing like my astrological aspect shows is better than not knowing. For example if it weren't for the Army of Mankind website I would have never known Hitler actually APPROVED of the Sturmgewher and actually called it so and was highly impressed by his people's use of said weapon literally admitting it perhaps saved their lives and lives of others and it's combat effectiveness is revolutionary like the Me-262. In the History channel back around 2001-2002 the History channel stated Hitler hated the STG44 and was repulsed by it in an Americana way stating it would reduce marksmanship which is funny because the same thing happened with the stupid U.S. military neglecting an assault rifle and trying to stop Armalite from selling XM16s to the U.S. military much out of fear and financial issues and other insignificant stupidity found among the retarded U.S. military cabal not wanting an Assault Rifle.
Anyways I learned a lot but perhaps Mageson, Shael, and Azorm didn't have the spirit of learning. I mean I'm ignorant as fuck when I state I've been NS nearly 25 years and SS nearly 20 years and done nothing it sounds bad. But spirituality has never worked for me. Hell if I wasn't so stupid I'd probably think spirituality = mental illness in people who are not normal. But if even normal people hell even Yoga performing people experience spiritual phenomenas which are perfectly normal people hell above normal abnormal to a good way because of exercise and spiritual propagation helping the person. Then obviously it's another world to explore.
Of course exploring said world is easier said than done and like I said above I'm merely theoretical. For example I've never Astral Projected but I study it just for the hell of studying it and spend hours of my time contemplating and thinking it over. Much like my life it's a worthless piece of shit that serves no purpose so since I do nothing and nothing happens. I just contemplate things and think about doing things out of boredom and passing the time. I figure if nothing is happening, nothing has happened, and nothing will happen. Then "Oh well better luck next life". Maybe in the next Pluto in Scorpio when I reincarnate in 2120s-2150s or so when the next Pluto in Scorpio occur that I reincarnate with better astrological chart.
Either way Azorm, Shael, and Mageson were not fanatical nor zealous like me and the other people. Whether spirituality works or doesn't work. You still believe in it even if it doesn't work for you. It can work for others and you can be a purveyor of information. Maybe your information helps a person spiritually or alternatively or by another way. Same for NS, even if NS doesn't work and never worked lets assume like many dupes state that capitalism conquered all even the communists. You still believe in NS.
You believe in NS/SS whether you like it or not. There are no options, you picked this path it's time to theory craft the hell out of it. Azorm, Shael, and Mageson dedicated but kept their humanity; when being NS/SS you gotta think the 300IQ situation. It's not how do I do this at a low level or just barely no it's what is above this.
I guess in the end like I iterated a number of times they(A, S, M) were not fanatical nor zealous.
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