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Lightning_Puma

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Why do we give attention to obvious trolls and just generally time wasting idiots?

Just ignore them. The more you focus upon them and the more you reply to them, the more time and energy you waste.

I know how it must be, that an idiot comes and spouts bullshitry, well personally, one or two people could like point in the right direction if in any case a newbie encounters the post, but why waste anymore time on them? They're obviously just here to mess with us, why give them the satisfaction?

Hail Satan!
 
If what they are doing is spreading lies, responding by telling the truth is a good thing. Because other people reading can learn about this piece of true information that they might have not known before.

But just replying with a meaningless insult is not helpful. Unless it is to warn people not to listen to what it says.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
If what they are doing is spreading lies, responding by telling the truth is a good thing. Because other people reading can learn about this piece of true information that they might have not known before.

But just replying with a meaningless insult is not helpful. Unless it is to warn people not to listen to what it says.


There are users, I can think of one right now in particular, that come on here and waste time and try to waste our time with them. People have posted lengthy, sympathetic responses to them when they should've been ignored.. that guy with the flaming head as an avatar for instance.

Now and then some kid or some really unaware, distanced, lost soul wanders into our domain and makes a mockery of it because all of the information is too grand for them to process as being real. I think that's what Lightning-Wings was referring to, that and when people come on here with jewry and the intention of creating inflammation on our forums.


I will leave you with a quote,

"There is no revenge quite like oblivion (not responding to someone), for it is the entombment of the unworthy in the dust of their own nothingness."

Hail Satan!
 
Lightning-Wings said:

I understand what you mean. Everyone has a tendency to jump in and take turns dogpiling onto the troll, which doesn't actually change anyone's minds.

However, there is also the value of newbies coming in and seeing the thread, and learning why the troll's mindset and actions are unacceptable in Satanism. The troll accomplishes nothing but wasting their own time as well.

We certainly do not want to give off the perception that we are ban-happy and shut down discussion.
 
The main function of a troll is just that, to troll. They aim to get a rise out of people and if it works they come back. As others said the only thing to do prevent misinformation from spreading but engaging in meaningless squabble with them is a waste of time.
 
Lightning-Wings said:
Why do we give attention to obvious trolls and just generally time wasting idiots?

Just ignore them. The more you focus upon them and the more you reply to them, the more time and energy you waste.

I know how it must be, that an idiot comes and spouts bullshitry, well personally, one or two people could like point in the right direction if in any case a newbie encounters the post, but why waste anymore time on them? They're obviously just here to mess with us, why give them the satisfaction?

Hail Satan!

For the most part we will actively engage to ensure any newcomers understand what is right and wrong. A teaching lesson. The other side of this is sometimes a troll comes to waste time a bother is, which we will then determine crushing them or being more or less lenient and ignoring them. It’s not that it is our intention but sometimes a smack on the hand does the trick.
 
The topics and messages of users with obviously bad intentions should not be approved in the first place.

Not only is it a waste of time, but it also damages the overall atmosphere of quality and exclusivity that is being built in the forum.

It is really absurd to first approve something that is wrong and then write paragraphs to correct it. It does not help newcomers to learn the truth, but only to get a lot of input into their minds for an unnecessary opinion. It is confusing, there is nothing right or useful about it.

Of course one can talk about freedom of expression. And how to distinguish between an ignorant and stupid person and a malicious troll can be a matter of debate, well, people who strive for Godhood should be able to handle such simple things.

To summarize, the right approach is not to ignore it or to give the right answer, but to NOT ALLOW it in the first place.
 
Spine said:
The topics and messages of users with obviously bad intentions should not be approved in the first place.

Not only is it a waste of time, but it also damages the overall atmosphere of quality and exclusivity that is being built in the forum.

It is really absurd to first approve something that is wrong and then write paragraphs to correct it. It does not help newcomers to learn the truth, but only to get a lot of input into their minds for an unnecessary opinion. It is confusing, there is nothing right or useful about it.

Of course one can talk about freedom of expression. And how to distinguish between an ignorant and stupid person and a malicious troll can be a matter of debate, well, people who strive for Godhood should be able to handle such simple things.

To summarize, the right approach is not to ignore it or to give the right answer, but to NOT ALLOW it in the first place.
Hooded Cobra 666 has literally likened these forums to the ancient forums back in the day. The name of these forums being ancient-forums is quite telling in that regard. So that being said, even fools and drunks can have their voices heard. Sometimes it is unpleasant, but also part of walking down the forum... I would like to have clean streets as well, but we do not have cleanliness by closing ourselves from it, but actually cleaning which is going to take some time.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Impetigo1488 said:

No offense, but I would rather listen to the opinion of somebody who has been here for longer than 3 weeks. Much longer.

That's your loss, I wont hold anything against you. I haven't studied who you are but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are my brother and a very valuable soul. You don't really know who I am or how long I've been lurking these forums or worshipping Satan.. but my gut tells me that in this case I should just let you think your own thoughts and not try to persuade you.

I mean well, I hope you can believe that. I look forward to reading some of your posts and discussing information with you in the future.
 
Impetigo1488 said:

If you have been lurking for a long time and never made an account, that only says you have not wanted to help or participate in that time. Even having a basic knowledge means that you could have helped people who asked basic questions. Or maybe you have had an account before and now you are using a different name. Some people have done that before.

Either way, there are many more people I would rather trust.

But I am happy for any way that you might help us.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Impetigo1488 said:

If you have been lurking for a long time and never made an account, that only says you have not wanted to help or participate in that time. Even having a basic knowledge means that you could have helped people who asked basic questions. Or maybe you have had an account before and now you are using a different name. Some people have done that before.

Either way, there are many more people I would rather trust.

But I am happy for any way that you might help us.

Now I'm a little offended. Yesterday I chose not to judge you, and thought about what I was going to say before responding.. now I feel like I have to correct you because you're not thinking right. I had other accounts which I lost the login information to. You are being very cynical and it seems to me snide as well.

I've not made anywhere near as many posts as you have, in total on all my accounts, but I've done my due diligence to help my fellow man in this world we live in. I wont boast any achievements here - I don't feel like it's necessary, but to defend my honor and play my part in maintaining order in the universe was.

You could be a little more fair in your judgments, and you might find that it would benefit you.

If you feel like I'm trying to enchant you, and so we can't see eye to eye, I would ask that you don't bother me any further. If you do, don't make the mistake of thinking that my future silence is testament to you having been right all along.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Impetigo1488 said:

If you have been lurking for a long time and never made an account, that only says you have not wanted to help or participate in that time. Even having a basic knowledge means that you could have helped people who asked basic questions. Or maybe you have had an account before and now you are using a different name. Some people have done that before.

Either way, there are many more people I would rather trust.

But I am happy for any way that you might help us.

Now I'm a little offended. Yesterday I chose not to judge you, and thought about what I was going to say before responding.. now I feel like I have to correct you because you're not thinking right. I had other accounts which I lost the login information to. You are being very cynical and it seems to me snide as well.

I've not made anywhere near as many posts as you have, in total on all my accounts, but I've done my due diligence to help my fellow man in this world we live in. I wont boast any achievements here - I don't feel like it's necessary, but to defend my honor and play my part in maintaining order in the universe was.

You could be a little more fair in your judgments, and you might find that it would benefit you.

If you feel like I'm trying to enchant you, and so we can't see eye to eye, I would ask that you don't bother me any further. If you do, don't make the mistake of thinking that my future silence is testament to you having been right all along.
 
Yurei said:
They need to be made an example of.

Brother I believe you may be misunderstanding the role we all play. We may find some need to berate, but sometimes as I said in my reply to LightningWings, a smack on the wrist is necessary. Making an example in your case would be akin to just destroying them to ensure no others follow down the wrong path. I would say that is last resort. Not first.
 
Ramier108666 said:
Yurei said:
They need to be made an example of.

Brother I believe you may be misunderstanding the role we all play. We may find some need to berate, but sometimes as I said in my reply to LightningWings, a smack on the wrist is necessary. Making an example in your case would be akin to just destroying them to ensure no others follow down the wrong path. I would say that is last resort. Not first.

Forgive my lack of clarity in my post. What I meant by being made an example of was displaying the wrongdoers errors so that anyone viewing the forum can learn, like you said, a slap on the wrist. I should have been more clear with my intent, my apologies, brother Ramier.
 
I think people come here to vent their frustrations. In my experience of being in online communities, I think half of the troll posts just stem from ignorance and frustration, the other half are troll/malicious posts.

But I think it’s a good idea to respond with education/proper answers as other people DO read these posts. There could be a learning opportunity to be had from it.


Impetigo1488 said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Impetigo1488 said:

If you have been lurking for a long time and never made an account, that only says you have not wanted to help or participate in that time. Even having a basic knowledge means that you could have helped people who asked basic questions. Or maybe you have had an account before and now you are using a different name. Some people have done that before.

Either way, there are many more people I would rather trust.

But I am happy for any way that you might help us.

Now I'm a little offended. Yesterday I chose not to judge you, and thought about what I was going to say before responding.. now I feel like I have to correct you because you're not thinking right. I had other accounts which I lost the login information to. You are being very cynical and it seems to me snide as well.

I've not made anywhere near as many posts as you have, in total on all my accounts, but I've done my due diligence to help my fellow man in this world we live in. I wont boast any achievements here - I don't feel like it's necessary, but to defend my honor and play my part in maintaining order in the universe was.

You could be a little more fair in your judgments, and you might find that it would benefit you.

If you feel like I'm trying to enchant you, and so we can't see eye to eye, I would ask that you don't bother me any further. If you do, don't make the mistake of thinking that my future silence is testament to you having been right all along.

I agree with you. They went out of their way to tell you they ignored your post for some reason.

People can sign up for whatever reason. No one is obligated to post IMO.

Maybe they were just having a bad day?
 
Yurei said:
Ramier108666 said:
Yurei said:
They need to be made an example of.

Brother I believe you may be misunderstanding the role we all play. We may find some need to berate, but sometimes as I said in my reply to LightningWings, a smack on the wrist is necessary. Making an example in your case would be akin to just destroying them to ensure no others follow down the wrong path. I would say that is last resort. Not first.

Forgive my lack of clarity in my post. What I meant by being made an example of was displaying the wrongdoers errors so that anyone viewing the forum can learn, like you said, a slap on the wrist. I should have been more clear with my intent, my apologies, brother Ramier.


My apologies as well brother Yurei. I misunderstood as well. If my post came a bit too strong, I do apologize.
 
They are not worth to be called “they” even…

That shit working trough “them” is astral shit, which thrives on our light.

All they need is just your attention so energy would be given for them for free…

This is how they feel more alive or even starts to consider they are something after they fed…

This is happening all the time and especially when one is really high and has much light,

as Maxine said then you are like a beacon on astral, and attract all kind of shit to yourself…

Enemy always tries in all ways to put us down and to not let us be high for longer time..

But it’s up to us our development and efforts and skills to build where we can be there effortlessly and being untouched by these leeches, or being not affected.

Like HPHC said something like this - “small thicks on big lion”

So it is just thicks, they suck and fall.

So if advancement has its place above all this nonsense, and most focus is on it, there should not be problems with this, more one advanced less they can do to you.

Let these clowns be your fuel for advancement, doesn’t this motivates you?, next time they can run in circles down there in theyr virtual reality without knowing shit where you are, while you gonna laught at them from the heights of the Gods.

:)
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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