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RE: Sexuality, Relationship Advice, Authoritarianism and the Individual Versus the Collective.

Jack said:
Lydia said:
Lunar Dance 666 said:
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IF Jack turns out to be truly a gentile, he must first prove himself otherwise. Until thats done he's a Jew to me.
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To Lydia: Yes, that is true. Nobody would be allowed to post rampant feminist propaganda on the board, which in effect, the reverse seems to be happening here.

However, consider that many people same as myself cannot be reading 200 pages of pointless conflict a day, unless the situation calls for it and there is a reason for it.
 
Ramier108666 said:
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Lunar Dance, I’ll say this, let us focus on ourselves and advance to raise our serpent. Whatever idiots want to keep up with their projections or projections of others, let them. They shouldn’t concern themselves.

That goes for you, Jrvan, Tabby, Lydia, NakedPluto, and anyone else who actually shows advancement. This topic was useful at first, but it turned haywire.
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Siege Heil.

Ramier, ... SS are taught to not turn the other cheek.

I don't spend every minute of every day looking at this and the other thread. I caught up a week worth of replies in here just a few days before.

I checked it today because something was on my mind. When I woke up this morning I hadn't even made the decision to write what I did. That came after I opened up the forums and saw this.

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Meteor if you happen to read this post, take your time and chill. The confusion will clear up if you take a little distance.
 
Lunar Dance 666 said:
Ramier108666 said:
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Lunar Dance, I’ll say this, let us focus on ourselves and advance to raise our serpent. Whatever idiots want to keep up with their projections or projections of others, let them. They shouldn’t concern themselves.

That goes for you, Jrvan, Tabby, Lydia, NakedPluto, and anyone else who actually shows advancement. This topic was useful at first, but it turned haywire.
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Siege Heil.

Ramier, ... SS are taught to not turn the other cheek.

I don't spend every minute of every day looking at this and the other thread. I caught up a week worth of replies in here just a few days before.

I checked it today because something was on my mind. When I woke up this morning I hadn't even made the decision to write what I did. That came after I opened up the forums and saw this.

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Meteor if you happen to read this post, take your time and chill. The confusion will clear up if you take a little distance.


I’m not saying turn the other cheek actually. But what would it mean to antagonize something that is of course not going to change with Jack. It would be falling on deaf ears. That actually Was what I’m seeing. We are wasting time trying to reel in a guy who has certain ideals that actually he doesn’t truly understand just yet.

But I get you. He seemed to calm down I guess. I don’t agree with his ideal because there is more to what Hitler was talking about.
 
This worthless bitching about women in every other thread has procured two fundamental problems that are creating kosher infested problems in the "Right", to be brought here.

Primarily, the encampment and disconnect between men and women. Then, the bringing of a real problem [with a failure of a solution as 70 years of failed Right Wing Rhetoric has shown], in a bad communication strategy.

This will not be tolerated here, it solves nothing, not even the problem it's basically procuring.

If this continues, Jack, you are headed for a ban. You might not want to change any behavior but external aspects of this and how they affect the place here, are to be considered. I

There have been other offenses which have been excused based on "explanations", or other things which shown repeatedly on how they could best work. The argument shitfest, just never ends.

There seems to be no improvement nor the fact this is fruitless seems to be taken seriously.

I might understand the intentions involved but improper methods let alone deception, are not good heralds to bring about any ideals here. In effect, all you do here is in reverse, by isolating an agenda of a problem of the "Right Wing", and bringing it here, pretending the solution the right wing offers to it's own problem [which is a political one], is effectively creating a divide where none existed prior.

In effect, this is not only worthless, but is agitating the community, and bullshit.

The claims that this is on good intention are not holding much merit if that continues. Most people understand the issues already present and don't need the special Alex Jones lecture for this, since the realization of problems at this level is as worthless as the whole failed agenda of the "Right Wing" that has achieved in particular nothing in stopping social decay over 70 years. Take this into account and stop preaching this ineffective nonsense, it's for the poor in spirit in general.

This approach answers nothing of any fundamental problem in here, nor it does anything in particular to solve any problem, since none existed prior, until you discovered that trying to enforce this norm to the women here, would solve anything.

The problem here is simply not present, you are creating this, no different than the invasion of a feminist delusional brought an errant dialectic from the exterior, would cause problems that never existed before.

I don't see Satanists experiencing half of the problems that you are trying to cure here. Might be useful to promote these where they actually would solve anything. But bear in mind this whole agenda thing of the Right has seriously failed.
 
Jack said:
Here is what Adolf Hitler, the prophet of Nazism and Satanism had to say on this topic,
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1. These were not enforced, they were strongly emphasized. Back then, like today, every Gentile parent was totally unsupported and deterred from doing this task. Hitler just made that easier.

2. The context of this is 1930's. We are about 100 years afterwards, closing in to the Age of Aquarius. Since, society, technology, production and many other things, have moved forward.

3. These teachings are instructions from Hitler towards the average person, many of which were Christians at this point. For them to act, a specific use of language was needed.

4. Germany was faced with ramification of birthrate from WW1, and needed to push birthing incentives.

5. Societies evolve, move on, and so on. If for example, the birthrates were so many that this would cause issues with the planet, the rhetoric would change. Every civilization that solved it's propagation of species question, calms down, and goes through periods where these values remain but are not first and foremost. After wars, this becomes first and foremost, but only for a while.

6. The National Socialists were of the first to recognize the rights of women to be mothers on their own and without a husband. Effectively, ditching assholes and other "dependencies" to men whom you so highly think are entitled to have women just because they are incapable of feeding themselves in your ideal NS civilization that wasn't ... Germany.

This of course, was contrarian to all the values that you are preaching were the case, but didn't really exist in Germany. Because they are xian values and nobody really cared for this.

The so called "Traditionalist" [xian values], were not really a part in Germany at this point. In fact, all the values the "Traditionalists" promote, were stretched to their ends and in breaking in this civilization. And they achieved the desired birthrates without the compulsive mania projected in your posts, just as easily.

I don't seek to further reply here, just clearing out some things for readers.
 
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Jack said:
Here is what Adolf Hitler, the prophet of Nazism and Satanism had to say on this topic,
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1. These were not enforced, they were strongly emphasized. Back then, like today, every Gentile parent was totally unsupported and deterred from doing this task. Hitler just made that easier.

2. The context of this is 1930's. We are about 100 years afterwards, closing in to the Age of Aquarius. Since, society, technology, production and many other things, have moved forward.

3. These teachings are instructions from Hitler towards the average person, many of which were Christians at this point. For them to act, a specific use of language was needed.

4. Germany was faced with ramification of birthrate from WW1, and needed to push birthing incentives.

5. Societies evolve, move on, and so on. If for example, the birthrates were so many that this would cause issues with the planet, the rhetoric would change. Every civilization that solved it's propagation of species question, calms down, and goes through periods where these values remain but are not first and foremost. After wars, this becomes first and foremost, but only for a while.

6. The National Socialists were of the first to recognize the rights of women to be mothers on their own and without a husband. Effectively, ditching assholes and other "dependencies" to men whom you so highly think are entitled to have women just because they are incapable of feeding themselves in your ideal NS civilization that wasn't ... Germany.

This of course, was contrarian to all the values that you are preaching were the case, but didn't really exist in Germany. Because they are xian values and nobody really cared for this.

The so called "Traditionalist" [xian values], were not really a part in Germany at this point. In fact, all the values the "Traditionalists" promote, were stretched to their ends and in breaking in this civilization. And they achieved the desired birthrates without the compulsive mania projected in your posts, just as easily.

I don't seek to further reply here, just clearing out some things for readers.


This actually gives great clarification for many i think. I always supported the idea that the NS looked positively at women in a motherly role, and to be honest, especially with children, having distinct roles takes a load off for the family all around imo. Moms having to work AND take care of kids in many cases are stressed out, and do not have the energy all around for both and end up sick, and she barely gets to see her kids. Desperate times call for desperate measures also when it comes to birthrates and propagation of the race but as you say, this is also not always a constant and people shoudln't be compulsed. I dont think they were in nazi Germany either but did so because they were shown good reasons to that were important to them. I dont think compulsion even in these extreme cases would be needed.

What i like about this clarification is that this also depends on what is nessessary for survival, how this shows that one rule will not always be a constant, and that women should not be forced into this otherwise actually healthy family dynamic with someone that ends up being dangerous or untrustworthy for them and that they should have a choice. Humans aren't robots devoid of emotion and this includes men as well, unbenownst to many. With that mentality one might as well shut off the top half of their chakras.

In some cases the roles are even reversed and there are some people who are happy with this. These sorts of things also depend on the chart of the person as well, as not every man is going to fit into a typical masculine role and not every woman is going to be ultra feminine, and there is nothing wrong with this. Father even says in the Al Jiwah that he allows us to follow the dictates of our own natures. One size will not always be the same for everyone. I also personally do not agree with the double standard for polygamy when it comes to the sexes as i am sure many Gods of both sexes are polygamous and are fine with it. People try to excuse this double standard with biology however this doesn't seem to hold the Gods back as they are advanced beings. We are woking to become Gods so the ones who have a predisposition to this, and this is if my speculation of the Gods of both sexes is correct, aren't exactly doing anything that is particularly harmful to their species either. The Gods also would have no reason to do anything that would be a detriment to us or their people.
 
I apologize for creating unnecessary drama and friction between SS. I'm so driven by certainty in planets that sometimes I lose care for the way I'm saying things or rethink them if they might not be true. After re reading this conversation, I have chosen to take steps to do more freeing of the soul workings and work on any issues I might have. I'll take some time to recuperate and see my own faults and fallacies which I seem to be missing.

I'm sorry.
 
Jack said:
I apologize for creating unnecessary drama and friction between SS. I'm so driven by certainty in planets that sometimes I lose care for the way I'm saying things or rethink them if they might not be true. After re reading this conversation, I have chosen to take steps to do more freeing of the soul workings and work on any issues I might have. I'll take some time to recuperate and see my own faults and fallacies which I seem to be missing.

I'm sorry.

"The planets told me to do it" -- Jack, 2021. :lol:

Thank you, Jack. You've brighten up my morning. <3
 
Inflorescentia said:
Jack said:
I apologize for creating unnecessary drama and friction between SS. I'm so driven by certainty in planets that sometimes I lose care for the way I'm saying things or rethink them if they might not be true. After re reading this conversation, I have chosen to take steps to do more freeing of the soul workings and work on any issues I might have. I'll take some time to recuperate and see my own faults and fallacies which I seem to be missing.

I'm sorry.

"The planets told me to do it" -- Jack, 2021. :lol:

Thank you, Jack. You've brighten up my morning. <3

Morning?? Lol you must be on the other side of the world its fucking midnight here and my nocturnal ass is still up despite having to be up at 5am. Such a bad habit it is xd.
 
Next thing you know they're going to be saying that I used sorcery to influence the High Priest. Or better yet, that Tabby and the High Priest are the SAME person :shock: :shock: :shock:

Who knows what goes on in the mind of crackpots.
 
Goodness, I'm feeling really evil today.

Go to bed Shadowcat :lol:
 
Shadowcat said:
Inflorescentia said:
Jack said:
[...] sorry guyz

"The planets told me to do it" -- Jack, 2021. :lol:

Thank you, Jack. You've brighten up my morning. <3

Morning?? Lol you must be on the other side of the world its fucking midnight here and my nocturnal ass is still up despite having to be up at 5am. Such a bad habit it is xd.

I know the feeling. I've been fighting to get up at 5 as well. But lately I've been having bursts of energy in the evening, derailing my schedule.

Anyway, regarding the hot topic -- what if Jack's contrasting position is valid as well? isn't human society's natural predisposition to arrange itself into castes? Castes can accommodate distinct societal norms, and these can include sexual norms as well.

This might sound derogatory (and it certainly is, LOL), but I don't think promiscuity can work for the masses. Imagine the level of individual stability and ego control that would require. I mean, this is certainly impossible today.
 
jrvan said:

I did give a neutral statement, for the sake of the forum peace, I like to read comments from Lydia and Jack, I do not read 100% of Jacks posts, sometimes only the parts he did highlight, I see both as important for the forum, Jack can read the old vedas in there original form the oldest and possibel purest (besides the JOS) form of knowledge given to humans from the gods.

If he would fokus his attention on this and read a little les the right wingers infos / which on them self are like the bible subliminal programming people, he could contribute far greater things here.
 
Meteor said:
It wasn't my intention to make you feel misunderstood or like I have something against you. I've reflected on how I could've communicated better, as well as how I may have misunderstood your intentions.

He has provided the full context of what you quoted, where he clearly stated the exact opposite of what you said he meant. I had assumed at the time that you deliberately ignored this with the intent to misrepresent him because you dislike him, but it's possible that your dislike towards him instead caused you to skim through his post because you couldn't bear to read all of it. In that case, the misrepresentation was only caused by your misunderstanding of what he meant due to not properly reading what he had written. There was no deliberate attempt at in-fighting then, and in fact there was nothing for you to fight about in the first place: if you look more closely, you'll see that both of you share the (perfectly reasonable) view that men as a collective did nothing wrong, and have no reason to apologise or feel guilt for the faults of other individuals.
I hope this clarifies why I thought you were trying to cause in-fighting, and clears up the misunderstanding.
This is not just about one post, it is an entire history of never having anything to positive to say and putting his focus on tearing men down, so for that I am done with the issue.
 
Inflorescentia said:
Shadowcat said:
Inflorescentia said:
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This might sound derogatory (and it certainly is, LOL), but I don't think promiscuity can work for the masses. Imagine the level of individual stability and ego control that would require. I mean, this is certainly impossible today.

It won't work but astrology and the so called nature has premeditated on the fact. People who do these things and can't control them, fail at this, and then they resort to other things after that.

For the general populace, these ideals are suicidal, but so are ideals that enforce them to do stupid decisions. Because a mass of immature humans, that is also repressed, is rife with material the jew or anyone can abuse to ruin civilization.

The return to this "Back into the Trad Norms" that xians constantly parrot, is not going to save anyone. For one, civilization has changed, and being locked in the kitchen, can never occur again.

If it could, it would take only a few jews and some agitators, and the situation would come to this dead end again. Unless civilization somehow magically stayed stuck in an underdeveloped level. If this was the case, reason to advance ceases to even have reason to exist.

Incompatible solutions to different times is like destroying the whole undertaking. Things that worked in neolithic times and people thought that were good, worked because that's all that humans could do, and they were forced on these roles. And many hated these, but they kept going.

The creation of civilization aims to advance. When advancement is made, then these things might get altered or change. You can't live the life of your family from the 1800's, and even if you could, the social and economic aspects and realities that existed don't really exist now. Because people have been exposed to a new standard.

It's the application of newer and more compatible ideals that can save a people, not a regression back to something that didn't even exist. People can't unsee or unlive what has happened already.
 
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
This is not just about one post, it is an entire history of never having anything to positive to say and putting his focus on tearing men down, so for that I am done with the issue.

You haven't been paying attention then. I haven't been tearing men down at all. This is just more lies from a manipulative egomaniac. I'm too tired for this shit anymore. Don't pretend to be nice and invite me to posts anymore if you're going to misrepresent me and lie about what I say.

I'm the whale you couldn't harpoon. Give up your obsession with me and leave me alone.
 
jrvan said:
You haven't been paying attention then. I haven't been tearing men down at all. This is just more lies from a manipulative egomaniac. I'm too tired for this shit anymore. Don't pretend to be nice and invite me to posts anymore if you're going to misrepresent me and lie about what I say.
I just see your message for what it really is. You don’t even have to make these replies anymore the feetwashers will do it for you.

I'm the whale
Epic self-own.

couldn't harpoon
You were too massive but I did get a few critical hits, the rougarou lives another day.

Give up your obsession with me and leave me alone.
You follow me around on posts where it is not even relevant. This thread is my house so I do not have to leave.
 
jrvan said:
Coraxo said:
You all should really wise up and spend your time doing something more productive.

It's easy enough to say that as an outside spectator to the conversation. Nobody forced you to observe. I laugh at people who take this stance and have this mentality like they're so above drama. Then later on they find themselves caught in drama, and suddenly realize what it's like. Judge me if you want, but it's my choice what I do with my time. What's important to you won't be important to others and vice versa.

I get my meditations done every day. I get my exercise in every day. I cook and take care of my duties. It's not wrong to engage in a little bit of drama here and there. Or if you think it is wrong, or lowly, or to be frowned upon - then at the very least it's not forbidden. Arguments happen. It was a civil discussion that I was participating in until it was made personal, and that's when the heavier drama started.

Obviously since this is a recurring pattern, and Jack + SWG are resistant to growth and change, and I see the futility in it even if they put on a new mask and fake their maturity - I won't be engaging in this sort of thing again. I've learned my lesson. I would appreciate not being looked down upon for this if you can help it. You're free to judge how you feel though.

I believe this is also good for others to witness and learn from so it's not like there is no value in what happened here even if it makes some uncomfortable.

Why are so many ministry followers egocentric idiots tho?
 
jrvan said:
You haven't been paying attention then. I haven't been tearing men down at all. This is just more lies from a manipulative egomaniac. I'm too tired for this shit anymore. Don't pretend to be nice and invite me to posts anymore if you're going to misrepresent me and lie about what I say.

I'm the whale you couldn't harpoon. Give up your obsession with me and leave me alone.
Dude, he literally does not meditate.

Does such a person really require any respond outside from maybe answering some spiritual questions..?

I do not think such persons views can be taken very seriously here.
 
Inflorescentia said:

Only go to bed earlier, or wake up earlier, by increments of 1 hour, 2 max. Anything more is too drastic and will result in fragmented sleep/energy. Of course, make sure you are not fucking yourself with lots of blue light prior to bed.

If you are trying to calm down, or perhaps feel wired and tired, then you need to focus more on the yin side of things. Do hatha yoga close to bedtime, do yoga nidra before bedtime, make sure you aren't skipping meals, etc. Hold acupoints that are great for yin, like spleen 6.

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Castes, classes, and distinct roles are all parts of human society. However, the manifestations of these change as humanity advances. The demons have their ranks and orders as well, however, the lowest caste of demon is still a superhero in comparison to our highest.

The lower castes of our world are currently put under lots of stress and misery, but this won't be the case in the future. We advance to together, in class harmony, just as the genders and races of the world shall exist distinctly, yet harmoniously.
 
Blitzkreig said:
Inflorescentia said:
Only go to bed earlier, or wake up earlier, by increments of 1 hour, 2 max. Anything more is too drastic and will result in fragmented sleep/energy. Of course, make sure you are not fucking yourself with lots of blue light prior to bed.

If you are trying to calm down, or perhaps feel wired and tired, then you need to focus more on the yin side of things. Do hatha yoga close to bedtime, do yoga nidra before bedtime, make sure you aren't skipping meals, etc. Hold acupoints that are great for yin, like spleen 6.
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Yessir!

And thanks for the nidra yoga tip.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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