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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "astreus66" <astreus66@... wrote:
Thanks for your time for answraing my questions.
1. Of course I read that, so dedication is just about win-win exchange between both side. I will proclaim Satan, as my only God and honor him and in for that I'm asking for his assitance in my problems.
Right? In my eyes it's seems a little weird you know. It's like I would said you are my best friend (bad comparison I know) and because of that you will help me with anything if I would be in trouble. Don't get me wrong, but if I use logic in these Satan never ask us for something in exchange only to believe him and recognize him. Maybe I'm just using human logic on this one even if I shouldn't because Satan isn't mortal but God. :/
I accept it and I'm not undermining Satan or anything, so don9t take it like that.
2. I think there is misunderstanding. I wasn't implying Satan as "SOMETHING"! That "Something" and "(Satan)":
"Why should I dedicate myself to something/someone if I don't know everything about the "deal"?"
Was meant to mean in generally, it wasn't implying to Satan or anything. That was just a question in general. I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
3. That part:
"Don't get me wrong again, it has a logic, but practicaly you are dedicating yourself permanently to something without speaking with that someone (Satan) who you are dedicating yourself, you are making an oath (practicaly) without knowing what it will truly mean."
Wasn't about dedication or Satanism in general. It was about common sense, that why should anyone or me dedicate/make an oath/sign a deal if he doesn't know everything? Simply make any oath/dedication with just few of information is dangerous and not really good right thing.
You have to agree with me on that.
4. So I should do each opening exercise for each chakra everyday, right?
5.1 As I said I read through those texts, so if you have monogamous succubi you have to be with her for eternity and if you are in open relationship then you can have relationship with any more womens/succubi you want. Do I get it right?
Btw: Is there a way to break up with succubi? (monogamous or free)
5.2 Works for me.
6. Ehm, main question wasn't if every satanist have his own GD. Question was if you can speak/do interactions with your GD anywhere and anytime.
6.1 Yes it does:
"Lord Asmodeus gave the
responsibility was given to Lord Beezlebub because i didn't acknowledge Him and
try to have a Guardian-Satanist relationship."
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
1. This is answered in JoS dedication prayer:
"I proclaim Satan Lucifer as my one and only God. I promise to recognize and honor him in all things, without reservation, desiring in return, his manifold assistance in the successful completion of my endeavors."
2. It's insulting to call Satan a "something" and also nobody says that you should dedicate ASAP, even though many people are sure and do that. I for example was researching and practicing for 1 year before dedicating myself.
3. Correct. What you said however: "Don't get me wrong again, it has a logic, but practicaly you are dedicating yourself permanently to something without speaking with that someone (Satan) who you are dedicating yourself, you are making an oath (practicaly) without knowing what it will truly mean."
Actually no, contact with Satan has nothing to do with the dedication ritual. It says that you do not have a guardian before you dedicate, that's a totally different thing. It's quite possible to have experiences with Satan before your dedication. And the part about being ready implies to being spiritually empowered. Maybe natrual psychics can do that without previous spiritual work, but for most of the people they do need to work on their astral senses.
And also like I said in my first reply, you do know what the dedication ritual means. I copypasted the excerpt of the prayer above which shows its purpose.
4. With the opening exercises your chakras won't open permanently at once. You'll still need to empower them every day during your daily power meditations. But if you feel what you described, you can move to the next one.
5. 1. No, it says only if you ask for a monogamous relationship. It obviously doesn't apply for a free relationship.
5. 2. Because it's ASTRAL sex with them, not physical. Their physical bodies are light years away from earth. To have a child you need to have physical sex, as well as being close physically. This would happen only if they came to earth via a spaceship or something. This is analogous a man who is in europe and a woman who is in USA having astral sex. You can see that they can't really have a child this way, one of them needs to either go to US or Europe.
6. Yes. Every DEDICATED SATANIST has one (not outsiders).
6. 1. In some cases. You may have a guardian for example who doesn't prefer to have sexual or intimate relationships with humans. Some Gods just have relationships with Goddesses or other Gods only.
BTW the link of the message of the other person says nothing about a lover relationship with his guardian actually.
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "astreus66" <astreus66@ wrote:
Hello everyone,
first I will introduce myself. I'm 17 years old guy with normal life, nothing special. Still without dedication to Satanism.
My family is partialy religious and when I was little (8-9 years?) I was visiting church every so often, but I wasn't in one for long time, but I never actually believed in it. I consider christianity to being just a tool to deceive and control people.
I'm considering doing dedication, because everything I read on JoyofSatan.org makes logical sense, but before I will do dedication I have to know few things. It would be harsh to do something without knowning everything.
Of course, I read partially everything what is on Joyof Satan.org about dedication and other stuff. Stuff I didn't read aren't for me yet, advanced technics, exposing christianity etc., I will read that in time...
For my knowledge I only started doing spiritual warfare training, training my meditating and started to opening my chakras. I'm working on 3rd eye + pineal gland + crown chakra and today I started to train troath chakra.
Now for my questions:
1. What does "dedicating yourself" means? Not just that you will go under Satan's protection etc. I think what it truly means? It's just an act that you are decided or that are taking are responsibilities for your actions or something else?
2. Why should I dedicate myself to something/someone if I don't know everything about the "deal"? Don't get me wrong, I just mean that if I'm going to dedicate myself to something I want to know what consequences it will bring.
3. I have read that you don't have your guardian before you finish your dedications, right? And even then, you will meet have only if you are ready. Don't get me wrong again, it has a logic, but practicaly you are dedicating yourself permanently to something without speaking with that someone (Satan) who you are dedicating yourself, you are making an oath (practicaly) without knowing what it will truly mean.
If the dedicating is only that you are refusing bad talking from Jews/Christianity permanently and want to spritualy grown. And it's only about that, then I'm OK with it. I just want to know everything before I do something.
4. How do I know that I successfuly opened my chakra? How to be sure that it's (permanently?) open?
I mostly just feel pressure or pain on sides and in the middle of my forehead and in center of my head (pineal gland I suppose) and a little on top of head (crown chakra?). Does it mean they are fully open? How to know when they are FINISHED (open) and I can move to another one?
Next questions are just from curiosity, because they catched my eye when I find out about them and because these things I'm going to ask are for now out of my reach.
5.
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... cubus.html
When I found this I was like "Wow!". So I want to ask, only from curiosity. No, I'm not planning summon any succubi in future... for now. (
)
Let's say that I would summon succubi and she would become my partner/lover/mate etc.
5.1 As it's said on that site "Keep in mind, once a commitment is made it will last a
lifetime and beyond, so don't take this lightly."
So if I summon a succubi as my lover then she will become my partner for eternity?
5.2 Next there is writen "In addition, one does not have to worry about contracting sexually transmitted diseases or experiencing unwanted pregnancies."
So if anyone would by in love with her/his incubi/succubi and wanted to have a child together it's impossible? It's impossible to make a "new life" with your demon?
6. Guardians? Everyone has it's own right? Can you communicate with your guardian anytime want? Like when you are bored at school/work or when you need someone to talk to or need help from him?
6.1 Can you become lovers with your guardian?
Question about lovers relationship between guardian and satanist is because of this topic - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JoyofSata ... sage/70602
He tried to have lovers relationship with his guardian and because of it his guardian changed. It's forbidden to be lovers with your guardian?
I have many more questions, but this will do for now.
Please, if you are going to answear don't sent me to read JoyofSatan.org, I already did that! And there are nowhere answears on questions like this and I read verything about dedicating ritual, chakras, guardians etc.