Offspring inherit an acquired characteristic of their mother's previous mate

[tabby]

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Let's liven things up a little.

This is you in a nutshell:
https://youtu.be/3s5xsVHOJQs

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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Shut up Jack. Stop getting triggered by Tabby, you cuck.

But you literally are a cuck, so how are you going to say anything?

You hate Jack because he has insulted you? From what I have seen, all he would really say is to call you a cross dressing cuck. And say that he has no respect for those actions. But this is not even an insult, it is just a fact. You are a cross dressing cuck.

That is fine. Do whatever you are wanting to do, of course you are allowed to and nobody will stop you. But it seems like something you are ashamed of. Or how would you use your own actions as an insult against somebody else if you are not ashamed of these actions?

 

[Shadowcat]

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I'll be totally honest here. Using the term "pair bonding" to try to explain away why people can't feel that "first time" feeling in love anymore, sounds like an excuse based in fear to avoid facing and healing the pain they're carrying in their heart from past bad experiences and heartbreak.

Yes I understand these were your views and i was explaining why this was not the case. I am not saying there is not people who don't get hurt and as a result don't want to get back out there. Sure there is. My point with the pair bonding means ability to be faithful and carry out the integrity of a monogamous relationship overtime without getting bored or with the temptation to cheat. I do not believe this is possible for 98 percent of people at least, who have been intimate with many different people. Maybe there are exceptions. If this is the case, good for them, if they are not, well that's fine, it just means they are better suited to a different relationship style or sex life that does not require exclusivity.

I have explained this and backed this up with how the brain works and is infact quite valid.

People who end up having sex with a whole bunch of differnt people don't always end up doing it because of heartbreak, and people who want exclusivity do not avoid these people simply out of heartbreak. Let me put it this way. Ok, I am a welder. I have years of experience as as welder. If i go up to an office and tell them i want to work with a software or something, they will look at my resume and work history and go uhh sorry we need someone with specific experience.

A person who wants an exclusive partner is going to want someone who thinks and feels like them in terms of selectivity, they are going to want someone who isn't too far removed from them in sexual tastes and experience. In short, someone compatible. How about if a person who is normally monogamous approaches a poly person? I am sure they would be rejected with being told "sorry, i like to share and be shared and you don't have experience with that or are ok with it."

This isn't about hangups but about being on the same page with compatibility, much like astrology. This is about someones innate nature, what they are attracted to romantically and sexually. preferring monogamy or many partners is also to be seen in someones chart.

Lets say someone wants to do a working and reprogram themselves to attract a certain partner. I have never said this is in no way possible. But one also has to be in tune with their own innate nature and understanding what one wants and needs truly, which most people do not. Let's say someone wants to do a working to become monogamous or to not "cheat".

In the case that their whole chart sets them up for polygamy, this will have to be a working that they continue for the rest of their life, or it may even produce little results, as they are basically trying to override their own innate nature, when in truth, there is nothing wrong with polygamy also. Due to jewish stigma, a lot of poly people get hangups themselves and are looked down on for wanting multiple people, so then they think there is something wrong with them. They think then the standard then is having that one special person, when again as i mentioned, one size does not fit all.

In any case, all of what i have said especially counts for the general population. As SS, being aware of what we are and what we truly want and need will tell us what kind of relationship we are happiest in. On the basis of significant self realization and awareness, The ones who want variety are better off with others like them, as are exclusive people with people who think as they do. If the two different types of people with two innate natures attempt to deny their own natures and try to make it work it is not going to happen. It has to do with ones true nature and not with hang ups.

Someone with extreme aspects to pluto or scoripo emphasis for example, is not going to want someone who has a lot of variety or is lible to get bored. They want someone who is all about them and want to give that in return. People with a pisces venus and other things to support this notion in their chart will think the same. Believe it or not, Saturn has a BIG influence in predispositions for monogamy especially in the seventh house when properly sublimated, with a seriousness and devotion towards relationships as well as selectivity. Some one with a gemini or sagg or leo venus will look at sex more nonchalantly with a "oh every person i have been with is a stepping stone for experience in my life", where as the first examples will express more seriousness and intensity, wanting an exclusive soul to soul bond, YES a pair bond.

This has nothing to do with heartache and hang ups, however what DOES is jewish programming of forcing everyone to look at sex as something dirty and how everyone should be repressed and feel ashamed for lustful feelings.

You can do workings to reprogram the mind, but you cannot erase your true nature and who you really are as a person. The hang ups come when we try to override this true nature in favor of what is pushed on us to be normal or acceptable.

Almost every person i have talked to who has a low partner count expresses a desire for monogamy, where as someone who has slept around a lot take a much more laid back attitude, "just seeing what's out there" "friends with benefits" ect.

Again, there is nothing wrong with people wanting to have sex. There is just different ways different types of people behave towards sex and partnerships, and are better off with people who are more like them or "compatible"

What have people been reading the years they've been in JoS?

Oh I dunno, things about the Gods, trying to get close to them, advancing in self awareness, astrology and about knowledge. Some of which i have used in the past to help you by the way if you recall, something that you yourself perhaps should do more reading on like the rest of us...But i'm going to remember this snide line that you didn't dare to quote me with that i really didn't deserve until I called you out, during the next time when you want help again...

I may disagree with some people here but i at least know how to do it respectfully, unless it's a jew or a troll, which in this case they don't deserve my respect.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

This is why people like Jack and the outlaw thorn will never have a place here. Because this is not who we are.

Alyssa Milano has taught you well my dear.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

But you literally are a cuck, so how are you going to say anything?

You hate Jack because he has insulted you? From what I have seen, all he would really say is to call you a cross dressing cuck. And say that he has no respect for those actions. But this is not even an insult, it is just a fact. You are a cross dressing cuck.

That is fine. Do whatever you are wanting to do, of course you are allowed to and nobody will stop you. But it seems like something you are ashamed of. Or how would you use your own actions as an insult against somebody else if you are not ashamed of these actions?

There you go son! Bring out the big balls a against this weirdo instead the little pecans you typically have. I’m proud of your growth.

 

[Shadowcat]

btw, the whole pair bonding thing sounds like bullshit from people who have hangups.
You can use magick to break and destroy bonds with people you've had sex with in order to have new relationship/s with people freely. You can also reform bonds you've previously broken with the same person again. Limiting yourself to have sex with as few people as possible to retain idk purity?? Come on.

What have people been reading the years they've been in JoS?

Don't be shy, Tabby you can quote me....

No, the pair bonding Notion comes from people who are very monogamous and take it very seriously, because the ability to bond with another and remain sexually and emotionally loyal only to them requires this, and this is what these people want. This has nothing to do with hangups and isn't bullshit, but i'm not going to expect someone who is polygamous to understand this and i'm not going to look down on them for it either, for what a polygamous and monogamous person want with sex and romance are very different things. This is also something else that boils down to astrology. Neither are fundamentally wrong but are simply different. People who are monogamous in nature, truly anyway, do not desire to go for others and are generally very selective.

When one "falls in love" in an exclusive relationship for the first time it sets off a chemical reaction in the brain, and because it is the first, it is often the most strongest release of these chemicals. Sex partner after sex partner, sooner or later that "wow" element won't come so natural anymore to the point where finding anyone is nothing special. This makes it easier to look for greener grass or to simply "want variety". The dopamine and serotonin the in love feeling releases is something the brain can become tolerant to...it will need more and more of it to get the same effect much like a drug. Imagine the brain working to try to replicate this over and over...that feeling of absolute in love and wanting to give everything 666 percent to someone isn't going to be there the way it was before, after the first or even the second time.

A person who is naturally wanting to be with one person only is going to be selective and isn't going to sleep around. Someone being monogamous the first one or up to 3 times who realizes they don't feel so selective anymore and are less stringent about who they have sex with, and end up sleeping with more and more people as a result are simply better suited to polygamy or open relationships. But the person who is serious about exclusivity is going to be very guarded about their heart and body, even after the first 1 or 2 disappointments. the latter also does not resort usually to casual sex to just "feel something" where as someone more prone to wanting variety might.


It is truly simple. if someone would rather have sex with multiple different people they are not fit for monogamy, or an exclusive relationship with one other person only This doesn't make them bad people, just people with different preferences. This is also not saying they cannot love someone, but in the long run would be better off with casual encounters or an open relationship, due to their experience making them so used to many different lovers. These people are not for the exclusive life, and if they try to be, 98 percent of the time, will find themselves feeling like they are in jail or missing out on variety.

This is not to say polygamous people cannot love their partners once again, or more accurately called polyamory in that case then. It just will not be one person only. A monogamous person will look at this as a crowd and feel less wanted if a partner of theirs wants others. But a poly person will enjoy the company and even find it cozy and less pressure put on them via certain expectations.

People who want monogamy need and want the certainty their partner will stay loyal. From my own SS eyes, if a man has had sex with more than i can count on 1 hand, i will not look down on him, but just will speculate to him that he will be happier loving multiple people or better off in an open arrangement so that he does not become bored or feel like he is "missing out"

people who have many many partners who then want to try the serious exclusive relationship life are being dishonest to themselves as well as others. They either don't know what they want and need, and perhaps in the beginning before getting so much exp, wanted monogamy but gave up, realizing they found it too confining or too much of something else for them. This is also fine, as again, everyone is different, but they by now are used to the kind of sex life they have been having, and will have to put more energy than what they are used to, to be exclusive, which often does not end well.

Not everyone is meant for every kind of lifestyle and not everyone is the same. People who are meant for monogamy aren't meant to want to be with many different people as this is not in their nature, and people who would rather have variety are typically much happier with variety.

the two are not suited for crossing each others paths, as they are different and this has nothing to do with hangups.

I should clear the air on some things before more confusion and misunderstanding happens.

From what I can remember, you weren't the first person to bring up this idea of "pair-bonding", and then it just became a thing people referred to. It seems to often be used to justify putting unnecessary restrictions on people's sex lives and relationships, by people who have hangups - not that you yourself was someone who was using the term in this way. I didn't think you were.

Personally, I believe one develops a "pair bond" with a person while they are with them. Otherwise, what's the relationship? However, this bond (like any) can be broken and/or changed. A person can choose to keep it permanently or not.

Whenever we experience something for the first time, it's always a unique experience. We don't get that feeling again unless we forget, like with reincarnation. We've all been in love before, we just don't remember. So in every lifetime, we experience these "new" feelings again, like it's the first time all over again. But in reality, you know these feelings, you've had them before, for many people perhaps, over many life times.

Every person we choose to "pair bond" with, the love and attraction you have towards that particular person is new. So even though you know the feelings, you may even carry scars from past traumatic relationships even from past lives that limits you from the new joy of a new relationship and connection, but those feelings arise again regardless. We have the ability to love as hard as the first time we fall in love, just simply because we know how to heal our scars deeper than any modern medicine here.

I have been in both mono-type relationships that didn't work out, and poly. While there is flexibility in poly relationships, what people wouldn't expect about me simply because of the label of my current relationship being defined as "poly", is that I've had sex with only two people in this life time, and a total of 3 relationships. My first boyfriend, my husband, and my Demon partner. I love two people, but I will not look at others. I love them equally and deeply. I love my partners like I'm exclusive to them because I've made myself to be exclusive to only them. I get jealous because I'm clingy, and I don't want people to hurt or use those I love. But Jrvan is free to be with others if that's what he likes, and I'm flexible in my relationships. You need love deeply and exclusively, I will love you just like that. If you need others, so long as I know you're ok and you talk to me about what you need, than I will love you no less. That's how I am, but others will be different. I don't expect people to be me.

That "special" feeling of being with someone for the first time isn't something people miss out on just because of a preference for any type of relationship. People who lose that special feeling from having multiple sex partners and relationships, are likely carrying problems that haven't been healed. Or simply stop seeing people as people who are different and unique, and want to get to know them that way, but as something monotonous and "I've seen it all, what's new?" attitude. They've killed the spark before it's even allowed to rise again with someone they've not been with before.

There's more than just poly and mono, relationships. People think being poly is about being a sleeze ball. No. You hold high respect for the people you're with just as you would in a mono relationship. The love between people is no less committed unless you are the shallower type of lover, which would be problematic no matter the relationship type if your partner is someone who needs deeper love but you are not.

Correct me if I'm remembering wrong, you've had bad experiences before. But you're the kind of person who needs a "soul mate" committed to you solely and none other. I understand that completely. That's how I felt going into my first relationship. I wanted to be with one person always and forever, and when I got my heart broken I thought that was it. Life teaches you a few things, and you either get left behind and wallow in the heartbreak, preventing yourself from enjoying the feeling of new love with someone else, or you heal the scars and you try again. It's a big world out there, things happen, what you choose to do when things break you is what makes the difference between having that spark again or not.

Ignore the last part of my comment i just wrote before actually finding this one. I thought it was directed at me. You can take what is before me copying your quote and replying to it there as an extension of my first comment to you.

I have never thought polyamory was just about going about fucking everyone. I even mentioned in another comment how i often envisioned these people having maybe 3 to 4 different partners and just sticking with them. Others prefer a different person everyday or every week ect.

even before my bad experiences, I wanted someone whose mindset and sexual experiences were not too far removed from my own, and the heartache I did experience did not amplify or change this. I have actually attempted a venus square myself and tried to get back out there. I did not find a compatible person, but something else occurred and happens, of which sings appeared for way before I even started my square. I suppose pair bonding can mean something different to everyone, as a person with 2 or 3 partners can have a pair bond each with each partner. its just a different dynamic than with monogamy, and i was speaking for how this manifests in exclusive people. I just believe there are similarities, yet differences, as the dynamics of the relationship are different.

 

[Top Striker]

Pfft, yeah. It's just a study on flies. Just like they studied other animals before seeing if they can push things on people. If people believe this crap it'll steam-roll into a pile of shit as always and become about humans. The OP already applied the study to humans on their own without the need for that. I'd say Lydia's reaction is justified.

It's just another bullshit setup to later make attacks on sex for pleasure and sex before marriage, which is enforced in the enemy religions to NOT DO. You must be a pure untouched "virgin" for your future husband that you haven't met yet until "god" ties you together forever 'til death, and have sex with only him. How dare a woman think she can go off and have sex for pleasure with her own people before she finds someone to settle down with. How filthy of her, goyim. The future for your people is ruined because you were born HUMAN and like sex. Let's just not masturbate either whilst we're at it, and listen to all the health and economic articles about that too!

Give me a break, xian. The fantasy of the untouched "virgin" is just bullshit and unrealistic. Men and women never having sex and loving each other in the bedroom till marriage because that creates "stronger WHITE families and healthier society"?? How much sexual suppression do you think is going to happen from doing this?

You didn't see the ancients ruined over having clean brothels and sex before marriage, now did you? All in all, what's really changed in relationships between men and women apart from a blatant inability to understand each other anymore because of enemy corruption?

They always feed people crumbs and nuggets. Once they accept that, then they push it to the next level, then the next and the next. Because to put it simple, the enemy is one massive cult and a cult runs on accept the small lies and working up until you're too stupid to realise the buffet sized lies they feed you with a knife to your neck if you dare spit them out.

Why are you attacking me as a xian when you don't even know me ? I don't know what religion my dad was because ive never met him but my mom was an aethist and i was raised extremely anti - christian.

Also all of your points are inconclusive and hypothetical because otherwise you would have provided studies to prove them.

My point was that virgins getting married have strong white families that i've proven by providing studies and i've also proven that there is a high likelihood of divorce by women who have more than 3 sexual partners. If you want to talk to me ,provide me with a study from the National Bureau of Health Statistics that says that there is no correlation between a persons sexual history and divorce ,which leads to broken families where kids suffer.

Also the point about how its unrealistic and a fantasy is also untrue. I know in my heart that when i lost my virginity to my girlfriend at 15 , i could have stayed with her forever. But because of peer pressure and bad advice from my guy friends i decided to break up with her and have a bunch of casual sex. And for people who will call me a hypocrite ,it was before i was introduced to White Nationalism so im consistent in my views and actions. Since i've committed to this cause i haven't defiled a single white woman who i don't want to have a family with.

If all of the kids were given the correct guidance then they would get married to their first loves and divorce would be dramatically reduced. If i was told by an elder that i should stick with her through thick and thin then i wouldn't have broken up with my first girlfriend.

Also thinking logically, how can it be possible for a woman in the Ancient times to run around having casual sex without condoms and birth control. She would obviously get pregnant and would have to commit to that man.

Get out of your feelings and look at what is good for our race. Not everything revolves around you. If a statement is true then even if you've gone against it in your personal life ,doesn't make it any less true. We should be promoting happy marriages with less divorce and strong white families. Promiscuity being natural is a Evolutionary Biology argument and even if that were true it would lead to a society with extreme competition and general destruction. You can look at Black families to see what single parent households and extreme promiscuity leads to. Also something being natural doesn't make it beneficial for society. I know as a man i can go around having sex with a bunch of women. But that doesn't lead to anything productive other than my own hedonistic desires. A man with a higher consciousness would look at doing those things that would contribute to the overall society at large.

I've looked at the viewcounts on these topics and it seems to garner thousands of views in some topics. These are thousands of people who will either think "I should give in to my natural instinct and have sex with lots of women because otherwise i would be a christian who goes against his natural biological desires" or "Sacrifices have to be made in order to fulfill our duties and in that regard i will choose not to have casual sex with women but instead search for a strong relationship that can lead to marriage and kids."A third option is that the man has sex with prostitutes if he's such an animal that he can't control himself and the promiscuous women who literally cannot control herself to become a prostitute and not contribute to degeneracy in society. Whores and Whore makers have not place in a white society.

Shut up Jack. Stop getting triggered by Tabby, you cuck.

So weird....Although i can see why an older guy from stormfront would rage quit after seeing such explicit white genocide talking points veiled in libertarian nonsense. Is there anyway i can contact him ? I'd like to compare some notes as well as talk to him about some other stuff. I'm always interested in talking to a fellow WN. Such a weird way of creating a red herring too. While im at it i'll convince him to come back to this forum.

 

[Elite]

You are correct in saying that a hierarchy is to be observed as this is natural. However The antichrist as well as the rest of our Gods are here to help guide us, and we do look to them for guidance. But the way you describe "Just let Führer take care of this" comes off as a xtian saying "let it go god is in control", which is something that SS do not do. I am certain The Antichrist as well as the rest of the Gods want us to think for ourselves also and make choices while keeping advancement and the greater good in mind. We are not to expect them to do everything, but we still must look to them for guidance all the same, but this is simply not a sit back and let them handle it all type of deal. That's all.

The Gods also know that when advancing and with humans trying to go for causes for the greater good there will be many mistakes. If they basically helicopter parent us, we cannot learn from those mistakes. They will be there if something goes far beyond our power and ability if there is trouble, but they will not hold our hands every step of the way. Thus, as you say, hierarchy is being observed from an SS perspective, but without us looking to the Gods to do all the work every step of the way. You are right in knowing the Gods know what is best, and this is with everything. The point is for them to let us grow and also figure things out for ourselves while looking to them for guidance, but without our hands being held constantly, so a balance. They know we might fuck up and they see our future mistakes. But us figuring these out and learning from this is what helps us grow and become independent beings.

I understand this. In a personal level or in a lesser extent, what you say is right. I was frustrated because many people think they have right to do everything, or to decide everything. Thing is, as I said before, I do not think many people in here including me can decide for entire race's standards and morals.

I never implied "we should not do anything". Actually, leaders only can give orders, and they make the important decisions. Doing the physical job, or making less important decisions, are up to the people. For me, we can not decide for entire race's future. Neither we have right, nor wisdom.

For lesser decisions, for example, being a mayor or president or something, yes, a god will not sit in the chair. Actually I did not say something like this, but rather came across like I was implying.

Decisions about the entire race are not up to us. Because we are not entitled and we have no enough wisdom.

Maybe what I said earlier, because of the word "obedience", came across like I wish a world where people will have no responsibilities, will not ponder or things like this. In reality, because of some trolls questioning HPHC for silly reasons and because of the people go at each other tooth and nail over decisions that is not up to them (since they are not entitled. Imagine one is doing all the hardwork and another with little to no work tries to take his salary. It is disrespect for me to the legacy of Herr Hitler), I was frustrated and a bit radicalized.

I hope it is much clear now.

 

[Top Striker]

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Shut up Jack. Stop getting triggered by Tabby, you cuck.

But you literally are a cuck, so how are you going to say anything?

You hate Jack because he has insulted you? From what I have seen, all he would really say is to call you a cross dressing cuck. And say that he has no respect for those actions. But this is not even an insult, it is just a fact. You are a cross dressing cuck.

That is fine. Do whatever you are wanting to do, of course you are allowed to and nobody will stop you. But it seems like something you are ashamed of. Or how would you use your own actions as an insult against somebody else if you are not ashamed of these actions?

Whoah....... So this guys a cross dresser and a cuck ? No wonder he's defending someone who is preaching genocide against the White Race. He must have implicit self hatred for being White and also being a man. This is the case for a majority of the leftist freaks. He probably has Blacks fuck his girlfriend. I already had one account deleted so i won't say anything illegal. Its sickening. Notice how everything the jew creates is an inversion of reality. The next stop after being a cross dresser is becoming a tranny. Then its Genital mutilation and never again propagating the white race.

 

[Jrvan]

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Shut up Jack. Stop getting triggered by Tabby, you cuck.

But you literally are a cuck, so how are you going to say anything?

You hate Jack because he has insulted you? From what I have seen, all he would really say is to call you a cross dressing cuck. And say that he has no respect for those actions. But this is not even an insult, it is just a fact. You are a cross dressing cuck.

That is fine. Do whatever you are wanting to do, of course you are allowed to and nobody will stop you. But it seems like something you are ashamed of. Or how would you use your own actions as an insult against somebody else if you are not ashamed of these actions?

Be careful Ol, or I might just come back to terrorize your tiny little mind again. But you'd like that, wouldn't you? After all, you've always been a bottom.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

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Shut up Jack. Stop getting triggered by Tabby, you cuck.

But you literally are a cuck, so how are you going to say anything?

You hate Jack because he has insulted you? From what I have seen, all he would really say is to call you a cross dressing cuck. And say that he has no respect for those actions. But this is not even an insult, it is just a fact. You are a cross dressing cuck.

That is fine. Do whatever you are wanting to do, of course you are allowed to and nobody will stop you. But it seems like something you are ashamed of. Or how would you use your own actions as an insult against somebody else if you are not ashamed of these actions?

Ol, why do you come up and bring this up on an unrelated topic entirely?

Remember all those things I said to Jrvan months ago, about not perpetuating arguments and making reactionary statements which only serve to antagonize another member on the forum?

You are doing the same thing here. Go read what I said about this, don't perpetuate drama of the past for no reason, and don't go bringing entirely unrelated things to a topic like this which would make the whole topic go off the rails over an irrelevant argument.

Hail Satan!

 

[Top Striker]

I think the view about this is 50 50 on this forum. 50% having pro White views and 50% having White Genocide rhetoric veiled in free agency arguments which stem from Jewish media brainwashing , mostly from women. The common man or woman is easily manipulated into taking wrong actions which lead to predetermined results by Jewish Think Tanks. The argument has been created by Jewish scholars to create barriers in women's mind and create a divide between white men and women. The results are more important than the actual arguments. If the free agency argument is adopted and every white man who had a natural inclination to be unfaithful ,it leads to a degenerate society that cannot propagate itself just like the Japanese. Hispanics ,African Blacks and Muslims are insulated from this rhetoric and so the result is eventually the ones having more children will overtake whites in our own countries. The results are white genocide. If the whites discard the free agency argument or just whatever their base desires tell them to do ,and connect with our ancestral teachings and behaviors having strong white families the result is that we can have a fighting chance against the non whites. We cannot prevent outliers but our message cannot be divided and validate everyone having free reign to do whatever they want in their lives ,leading to the end of Whites. We must always discourage promiscuity and promote having strong healthy families. That's the only thing we can do in our personal lives to fight against the enemy. Our politicians and leaders do not fight for us. The only ones who can fight for us is we ,ourselves and no one else. I refuse to let my ancestors die out. I promise to create atleast 3 to atmost 5 lives and everyone reading needs to have the same mindset.

White Pride World Wide ,forever.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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How did I bring up anything unrelated?

Jrvan is continuing his extreme hatred against Jack, all because Jack called him a cuck several times. I have never seen Jack call Jrvan anything worse than a cuck, a cross dresser, or overweight and all three of these are things that Jrvan himself admitted to being. So none of them are really insults anyway, they are just facts. And he is taking this hatred against Jack so far that he is creating arguments and conflicts against people who are not involved. He is inventing conflicts and hatred against this Top Striker guy because he thinks it might possibly be Jack. Or maybe Top Striker is a completely seperate and innocent person, and Jrvan's blind hatred causes him to invent hatred and invent conflicts with innocent people who don't deserve it. Which inventing these kinds of conflicts between himself and many other people has been a very common action from him that has been personally experienced by many of us here. And every single time he is called out on it he tries to twist it around and mention Jack and blame it all on Jack when the people he has these conflicts with are not even the same person as Jack.

So how are you going to blame me for this? For how much Jrvan has pretended to care in the past about how new people are treated here, and I do agree with him about this. I agree it is important to treat new people in a good way. But he is here currently inventing conflicts with a new person Top Striker, and you are going to try to blame this on me somehow?

I plainly do not care about anything you have written to him before. I probably read it at the time or at least most of it, but I am not going to go back and read it again. Because I do not think that your opinions are so important that it is necessary for me to read them. I am frequently strongly disagreeing with you about many different topics, so I do not believe that whatever your opinion is is so valid or important that it should change anything about me. I do respect you and I do like you, but I don't think your judgement about me is more valid than my own judgement about myself.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

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How did I bring up anything unrelated?

Jrvan is continuing his extreme hatred against Jack, all because Jack called him a cuck several times. I have never seen Jack call Jrvan anything worse than a cuck, a cross dresser, or overweight and all three of these are things that Jrvan himself admitted to being. So none of them are really insults anyway, they are just facts. And he is taking this hatred against Jack so far that he is creating arguments and conflicts against people who are not involved. He is inventing conflicts and hatred against this Top Striker guy because he thinks it might possibly be Jack. Or maybe Top Striker is a completely seperate and innocent person, and Jrvan's blind hatred causes him to invent hatred and invent conflicts with innocent people who don't deserve it. Which inventing these kinds of conflicts between himself and many other people has been a very common action from him that has been personally experienced by many of us here. And every single time he is called out on it he tries to twist it around and mention Jack and blame it all on Jack when the people he has these conflicts with are not even the same person as Jack.

You and him both are making assumption stop of assumption. Just don't do that yourself and limit this, to avoid ridiculous arguments which you know would stem from this...

I addressed you because you are the longer term member, and really should be able to see how excessively futile this is.

Does it matter if Jrvan once was called a cuck by Jack or not? Or any of those other things?

One can simply address the point at hand without antagonistic embellishments such as pointing fingers to things said about others in the past that are unrelated to the issue at hand.

Hail Satan!

 

[Demonic]

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btw, the whole pair bonding thing sounds like bullshit from people who have hangups.
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Don't be shy, Tabby you can quote me....

No, the pair bonding Notion comes from people who are very monogamous and take it very seriously, because the ability to bond with another and remain sexually and emotionally loyal only to them requires this, and this is what these people want. This has nothing to do with hangups and isn't bullshit, but i'm not going to expect someone who is polygamous to understand this and i'm not going to look down on them for it either, for what a polygamous and monogamous person want with sex and romance are very different things. .....

Man oh man, seems like mercury retro all over again. The fact is we cannot change each other's opinions and mindset on things.

I completely agree with shadowcat,a person changing partners frequently does eventually become barren in emotions and the "intensity" of emotions lessen as list of partners increases thus i strongly support monogamous relationship, for others reading this, this might be different, everyone is free to keep their opinions on things.

But who is what and why hes believing that, monogamy or polygamy is wrong, who is a cross dresser, a cuck or is that person jack or not, it simply does not matter. These arguments and finding something from someone's post to prove him right or wrong,male are more whores than females or vice versa, this simply has no value at all. Any of this does not yield any productive result for the reader and writer and newbies that comes here to learn. Only thing that matters is we fight enemy and channel all this frustration and anger (if any towards each other) towards enemy through rtrs.

We are fighting here as one single unit and we have the same enemy, have you ever thought before typing something provocative, that what if its an enemy attack causing me to waste my time and the time of others as well? or an enemy attack to cause frustration and bring morale down of other SS or incite a non result yielding arguments? There could have been one more rtr done in this time , or more void instead of typing all this.

In the end, we are only typing long texts and not changing each others opinions on things, you and person you are arguing with are still going to bed with the mindset of their own. Even if one believes something that is wrong no amount of typing will change his/her mindset, life and advancing will.



I havent cussed on forums and didnt plan to, but fuck you for saying that to Lydia. Shes powerful enough to crush you like a bug, realise this and realise how tiny and imbecile you are as compared to her.

 

[Achatina Prisma]

Shut up Jack. Stop getting triggered by Tabby, you cuck.

But you literally are a cuck, so how are you going to say anything?

You hate Jack because he has insulted you? From what I have seen, all he would really say is to call you a cross dressing cuck. And say that he has no respect for those actions. But this is not even an insult, it is just a fact. You are a cross dressing cuck.

That is fine. Do whatever you are wanting to do, of course you are allowed to and nobody will stop you. But it seems like something you are ashamed of. Or how would you use your own actions as an insult against somebody else if you are not ashamed of these actions?

Be careful Ol, or I might just come back to terrorize your tiny little mind again. But you'd like that, wouldn't you? After all, you've always been a bottom.

Hey! Nothing wrong with being a bottom! :lol:

What's with the nonsense bickering in this thread? Although some interesting things were said. Ol even used the word "literally". He should've been careful, as I'm about to take that as an invitation to channel the full extent of my autism and go into excessive detail!

First I'll consider it literally in an etymological sense. "Cuck" is an abbreviation of "cuckold", which is a term related to the behaviour of the cuckoo bird, which lays eggs in the nests of other birds. Although the term cuckold isn’t typically used this way in English, in French (which is where it comes from), cucuault (cuckold) refers to a bird that is tricked into brooding a cuckoo’s eggs as its own. Isn’t it funny how oddly relevant the above is to the topic of the thread? Seems the argument went full circle, and went back on topic somehow!

Translated to human terms, this refers to how a man may be tricked into raising another man’s child if his wife sleeps around. But astral sex can’t cause pregnancy, so there’s no risk of you being “tricked” in that manner. And even if hypothetically someday that became a possibility, there would be no incentive for her to deceive you about it, as the two of you communicate and trust each other well. If Tabby were to get pregnant or if she is, then there wouldn’t be any confusion about whose child that would be.

Next, I'll consider a modern dictionary definition: "A man whose wife is sexually unfaithful, often regarded as an object of derision."

Tabby engages with her lovely Demon only because you gave her permission, as part of a symmetrical agreement where you also have a Demoness as a lover. This was clearly discussed and agreed upon in an amicable, uncoerced manner, so it sounds like neither of you are being unfaithful to each other in any way.

And lastly, even in a figurative sense, you don’t strike me as a cuck at all. You always stand up for what you believe in, even with complete disregard for the social awkwardness that causes at times. You really don’t hesitate to put your foot down!

In conclusion, doesn’t the fact that Tabby is already in love with two men who cherish her and treat her well make it less likely for her to be unfaithful to you? Not only would it be unlikely for both of you to neglect her needs somehow, but she would be betraying two men, including a Demon of Satan, when she wasn’t even willing to go behind just your own back in the first place.

From a mathematical standpoint, that make you less of a cuck than the average person here. Rather amusing how that works, huh?

I don’t think Ol is bottom, since he’s written before that he’s against that sort of thing for “health reasons”. But... considering how nonsensical his statements about you are, it’s clear that he is rather confused about you. But I'm sure you won't let that get to you. You're a "strong, independent man", after all; although maybe "independent" isn't the word when you have two ladies doting on you. I'm sure they love you deeply and support you in many ways, and it's certainly thanks to them that you are the man you are today.

 

[Achatina Prisma]

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I'll be totally honest here. Using the term "pair bonding" to try to explain away why people can't feel that "first time" feeling in love anymore, sounds like an excuse based in fear to avoid facing and healing the pain they're carrying in their heart from past bad experiences and heartbreak.

Both of you make good points, and it has me wondering if perhaps the main difference between monogamous and polyamorous people could be a biochemical one. I already found out a while ago that there are genetic factors to it, so if it’s due to a neurochemical process like Shadowcat describes, then that process could simply be different for people who are polyamorously inclined.

I tend to find it difficult to let go, and as a result, it's happened before that I fell in love with a person while already being in love with another. When that happened, it felt like my very Soul was being torn apart in two directions. It was excruciating to the point that I broke down mentally, and was eventually able to break up when my emotions had gone completely numb from the pain. In hindsight that was for the best, as the relationship I was in at the time had unsolveable problems that only kept getting worse, so I had to let go.

Given that, I know that I personally could never love or date multiple people at the same time. I would experience a constant sense of numbness and agony, as for me to be in love means to devote my entire being to someone, but I only have a single self to devote.

Clearly, for you it works differently. It sounds like your bond with your Demon does not detract from your bond with Jrvan in any way. Instead of it being a matter of dividing what you have and merging, is it perhaps more like building bridges?

What I'm trying to say is, perhaps this "pair-bonding" that Shadowcat speaks of is actually really a thing. And perhaps, due to some genetic or neurochemical difference or whatnot, you and Jrvan are able to "pair-bond" with multiple people at the same time. After all, there doesn't appear to be a desire to expand the relationship further than it has, so it's not like like there's isn't any pairing at all.

Both of you are involved in two pairs each, but unlike would be the case for me, those pairs and bonds aren't mutually exclusive.
At the very least, that's what it looks like from my outside perspective. Is that what it feels like to you as well?

 

[Shadowcat]

No. Studies show that women have higher rate of infidelity than men, they are just better at hiding it from their man. Also women are likely to be the ones asking for shit like open relationships or open marriages where they can go have sex with different guys with no strings attached. I don't know what good they get from those types of encounters but majority of them are women. Research shows that this is the case.

This is complete and utter shit. Both sexes cheat. MGTOW propaganda does not belong here.
I was in a relationship for almost 9 years. This was the first person and only that I was intimate with, and it happened because i thought this would be my life partner. I literally shed blood sweat and tears to save up money to move halfway accross the world for him, learned another language and worked there. Things went down south. Neither was perfect, but in the end, guess who was unfaithful? HINT: it wasn't me.

I didn't say men don't cheat, I was only replying to ol adgedco who says men are worse but according to research it is the opposite, if your boyfriend cheated on you then that's very bad but don't bring personal matter into the facts.

No they are not facts, but believe whatever you want. You are also trying to give advice on matters you no nothing of. You don't need a piece of paper, a ring or a ceremony that costs as much as a house to say you want to spend your life with someone. We lived and behaved as life partners and it was the intent. Putting it in official documents especially in this day and age can really fuck someone over financially. I would never marry on paper.

 

[Shadowcat]

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btw, the whole pair bonding thing sounds like bullshit from people who have hangups.
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Don't be shy, Tabby you can quote me....

No, the pair bonding Notion comes from people who are very monogamous and take it very seriously, because the ability to bond with another and remain sexually and emotionally loyal only to them requires this, and this is what these people want. This has nothing to do with hangups and isn't bullshit, but i'm not going to expect someone who is polygamous to understand this and i'm not going to look down on them for it either, for what a polygamous and monogamous person want with sex and romance are very different things. .....

Man oh man, seems like mercury retro all over again. The fact is we cannot change each other's opinions and mindset on things.

I completely agree with shadowcat,a person changing partners frequently does eventually become barren in emotions and the "intensity" of emotions lessen as list of partners increases thus i strongly support monogamous relationship, for others reading this, this might be different, everyone is free to keep their opinions on things.

But who is what and why hes believing that, monogamy or polygamy is wrong, who is a cross dresser, a cuck or is that person jack or not, it simply does not matter. These arguments and finding something from someone's post to prove him right or wrong,male are more whores than females or vice versa, this simply has no value at all. Any of this does not yield any productive result for the reader and writer and newbies that comes here to learn. Only thing that matters is we fight enemy and channel all this frustration and anger (if any towards each other) towards enemy through rtrs.

We are fighting here as one single unit and we have the same enemy, have you ever thought before typing something provocative, that what if its an enemy attack causing me to waste my time and the time of others as well? or an enemy attack to cause frustration and bring morale down of other SS or incite a non result yielding arguments? There could have been one more rtr done in this time , or more void instead of typing all this.

In the end, we are only typing long texts and not changing each others opinions on things, you and person you are arguing with are still going to bed with the mindset of their own. Even if one believes something that is wrong no amount of typing will change his/her mindset, life and advancing will.



I havent cussed on forums and didnt plan to, but fuck you for saying that to Lydia. Shes powerful enough to crush you like a bug, realise this and realise how tiny and imbecile you are as compared to her.

No one is fighting calm down. There is a difference between infighting and debate.

Also ignore the trolls, they aren't worth a damn and there are many as of late...

 

[tabby]

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I'll be totally honest here. Using the term "pair bonding" to try to explain away why people can't feel that "first time" feeling in love anymore, sounds like an excuse based in fear to avoid facing and healing the pain they're carrying in their heart from past bad experiences and heartbreak.

Both of you make good points, and it has me wondering if perhaps the main difference between monogamous and polyamorous people could be a biochemical one. I already found out a while ago that there are genetic factors to it, so if it’s due to a neurochemical process like Shadowcat describes, then that process could simply be different for people who are polyamorously inclined.

I tend to find it difficult to let go, and as a result, it's happened before that I fell in love with a person while already being in love with another. When that happened, it felt like my very Soul was being torn apart in two directions. It was excruciating to the point that I broke down mentally, and was eventually able to break up when my emotions had gone completely numb from the pain. In hindsight that was for the best, as the relationship I was in at the time had unsolveable problems that only kept getting worse, so I had to let go.

Given that, I know that I personally could never love or date multiple people at the same time. I would experience a constant sense of numbness and agony, as for me to be in love means to devote my entire being to someone, but I only have a single self to devote.

Clearly, for you it works differently. It sounds like your bond with your Demon does not detract from your bond with Jrvan in any way. Instead of it being a matter of dividing what you have and merging, is it perhaps more like building bridges?

What I'm trying to say is, perhaps this "pair-bonding" that Shadowcat speaks of is actually really a thing. And perhaps, due to some genetic or neurochemical difference or whatnot, you and Jrvan are able to "pair-bond" with multiple people at the same time. After all, there doesn't appear to be a desire to expand the relationship further than it has, so it's not like like there's isn't any pairing at all.

Both of you are involved in two pairs each, but unlike would be the case for me, those pairs and bonds aren't mutually exclusive.
At the very least, that's what it looks like from my outside perspective. Is that what it feels like to you as well?

Perhaps that is a more wise way of looking at it.

Both my Demon lover and Jrvan are my family. To me at least, it's like creating a small family unit together. I trust them completely and I am treated just as important to them as anyone else they love in their life.

Labels of what the relationship is really don't matter to me anyone, and feels like it puts things into an unnecessary box. It just is what it is. Whatever my partners needs are, I will do my best to provide that, if things change I will change with it.

Trying to explain about it any further and I'll just end up repeating myself. :lol:

Personally, I think astrology has a lot more to do with how one bonds with others than anything else.

 

[Shadowcat]

I'll be totally honest here. Using the term "pair bonding" to try to explain away why people can't feel that "first time" feeling in love anymore, sounds like an excuse based in fear to avoid facing and healing the pain they're carrying in their heart from past bad experiences and heartbreak.

Both of you make good points, and it has me wondering if perhaps the main difference between monogamous and polyamorous people could be a biochemical one. I already found out a while ago that there are genetic factors to it, so if it’s due to a neurochemical process like Shadowcat describes, then that process could simply be different for people who are polyamorously inclined.

I tend to find it difficult to let go, and as a result, it's happened before that I fell in love with a person while already being in love with another. When that happened, it felt like my very Soul was being torn apart in two directions. It was excruciating to the point that I broke down mentally, and was eventually able to break up when my emotions had gone completely numb from the pain. In hindsight that was for the best, as the relationship I was in at the time had unsolveable problems that only kept getting worse, so I had to let go.

Given that, I know that I personally could never love or date multiple people at the same time. I would experience a constant sense of numbness and agony, as for me to be in love means to devote my entire being to someone, but I only have a single self to devote.

Clearly, for you it works differently. It sounds like your bond with your Demon does not detract from your bond with Jrvan in any way. Instead of it being a matter of dividing what you have and merging, is it perhaps more like building bridges?

What I'm trying to say is, perhaps this "pair-bonding" that Shadowcat speaks of is actually really a thing. And perhaps, due to some genetic or neurochemical difference or whatnot, you and Jrvan are able to "pair-bond" with multiple people at the same time. After all, there doesn't appear to be a desire to expand the relationship further than it has, so it's not like like there's isn't any pairing at all.

Both of you are involved in two pairs each, but unlike would be the case for me, those pairs and bonds aren't mutually exclusive.
At the very least, that's what it looks like from my outside perspective. Is that what it feels like to you as well?

Perhaps that is a more wise way of looking at it.

Both my Demon lover and Jrvan are my family. To me at least, it's like creating a small family unit together. I trust them completely and I am treated just as important to them as anyone else they love in their life.

Labels of what the relationship is really don't matter to me anyone, and feels like it puts things into an unnecessary box. It just is what it is. Whatever my partners needs are, I will do my best to provide that, if things change I will change with it.

Trying to explain about it any further and I'll just end up repeating myself. :lol:

Personally, I think astrology has a lot more to do with how one bonds with others than anything else.

Personally, I think astrology has a lot more to do with how one bonds with others than anything else.

This is precisely the argument i have been making the whole time....If you had significant knowledge of astrology which i recommend it is very rewarding, you will agree with a lot of what i have presented.

A i said, natural predispositions...

Also something I wanted to add as far as the hurt aspect, if this is a factor with any. Someone experiencing disappointment and developing a nihilistic approach to sex and love is also a problem with bonding with others as we know. Having satanic knowledge can fix this but depends on the person and how much energy is required,it isnt easy 123, this may take a long time, but is not impossible obviously. But because the majority population does not have this knowlege and until more and more SS significantly advance, my point about monogamous pair bonding this whole time with either case will still stand as i have been speaking for the present tense of things as a whole, and not just about the 2 percent.

Kudos to any exceptions, as these must become the norm in time i should hope, but this is not the case yet, and it will take a long time before the majority of people advance and become self aware.

This is also all I have to say myself about it. All relations are different and fit each one of us different, indeed without labels.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

I havent cussed on forums and didnt plan to, but fuck you for saying that to Lydia. Shes powerful enough to crush you like a bug, realise this and realise how tiny and imbecile you are as compared to her.

My mistake for softly criticizing your chosen Goddess. I won’t happen again my lord.

 

[Shadowcat]

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I'll be totally honest here. Using the term "pair bonding" to try to explain away why people can't feel that "first time" feeling in love anymore, sounds like an excuse based in fear to avoid facing and healing the pain they're carrying in their heart from past bad experiences and heartbreak.

Both of you make good points, and it has me wondering if perhaps the main difference between monogamous and polyamorous people could be a biochemical one. I already found out a while ago that there are genetic factors to it, so if it’s due to a neurochemical process like Shadowcat describes, then that process could simply be different for people who are polyamorously inclined.

I tend to find it difficult to let go, and as a result, it's happened before that I fell in love with a person while already being in love with another. When that happened, it felt like my very Soul was being torn apart in two directions. It was excruciating to the point that I broke down mentally, and was eventually able to break up when my emotions had gone completely numb from the pain. In hindsight that was for the best, as the relationship I was in at the time had unsolveable problems that only kept getting worse, so I had to let go.

Given that, I know that I personally could never love or date multiple people at the same time. I would experience a constant sense of numbness and agony, as for me to be in love means to devote my entire being to someone, but I only have a single self to devote.

Clearly, for you it works differently. It sounds like your bond with your Demon does not detract from your bond with Jrvan in any way. Instead of it being a matter of dividing what you have and merging, is it perhaps more like building bridges?

What I'm trying to say is, perhaps this "pair-bonding" that Shadowcat speaks of is actually really a thing. And perhaps, due to some genetic or neurochemical difference or whatnot, you and Jrvan are able to "pair-bond" with multiple people at the same time. After all, there doesn't appear to be a desire to expand the relationship further than it has, so it's not like like there's isn't any pairing at all.

Both of you are involved in two pairs each, but unlike would be the case for me, those pairs and bonds aren't mutually exclusive.
At the very least, that's what it looks like from my outside perspective. Is that what it feels like to you as well?

Hi Meteor

 

[Achatina Prisma]

Labels of what the relationship is really don't matter to me anyone, and feels like it puts things into an unnecessary box. It just is what it is. Whatever my partners needs are, I will do my best to provide that, if things change I will change with it.

I think that's a very healthy mentality, especially when one's situation falls outside the realm of what is typical or "standard". Labels come with expectations and assumptions based on norms and stereotypes, so when those stereotypes don't apply closely enough, attempts to describe the situation with words and labels can end up being more confusing than elucidating. At that point it becomes better to just go with the flow and appreciate things for what they really are, at face value, rather than bothering with words that fail to describe everything and lead to misunderstandings.

In fact, adopting that sort of mentality myself is also what set me free to enjoy what comes naturally to me, without constantly worrying about the "why" or the "how". Language can greatly impact on one's thought processes as it provides structure, but when that impact is negative, it's better to simply let go.

Personally, I think astrology has a lot more to do with how one bonds with others than anything else.

Sometimes I still wonder if it's in part due to confirmation bias, but at least when it comes to my own chart and other people's I've seen, the placements have been extremely accurate in regards to this. I find it especially interesting how these things end up working out when there are placements with meanings that seem to contradict at first; there's often a lot of nuance to be found.

I still remember that when I first read about the arrangement you have, I pitied both of you, as I thought it sounded very unfulfilling. That might sound strange to some: "isn't more better, and more fulfilling?" But when I fall in love with someone, I desire a sense of closeness that (especially since the awakening of my Kundalini two years ago, as horrible of a mess that was) goes so far that even thoughts and feelings are shared, as though our very consciousnesses overlap with each other. If I had that with multiple people at once, my own sense of self would end up dissolving completely; and thus to protect myself from that, I would have to keep a certain distance, causing me to be unfilfilled. It was only after participating here on the forums and seeing some advanced members state that the notion of an eternal monogamous marriage is flawed and unsuitable for most people (who mainly just want to build a family), that I realised that I'm unusual in my own way.

Over time, after reading more about you and Jrvan's experiences, I've gone from pitying to admiring what you have, even if it isn't something that would make me happy personally. I've started to see in an unbiased manner what a beautiful and positive thing it really is. That you were able to make it work so well and find such fulfilment in it, I think that's something both of you should be very proud of. And sometimes I wonder if Jack was really just envious that you're loved by two, and that they're both fine with it, since that's what he said he wanted too.

 

[Achatina Prisma]

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Hi Meteor

Hi! Sorry for not pinging you directly there. I was worried about making you feel awkward, since I don't think you like me.
I can't access my other two accounts at the moment, but I think I like this name better anyway, so I might keep using it regardless.
I hope you're doing well!

 

[Shadowcat]

I don't even understand what is going on here ? How can you foster strong white families with a promiscuous father or mother ? How can you do this with the Divorce ? I thought this was a fucking White Nationalist forum with a strong emphasis on spirituality but a bunch of posters are arguing for normalizing promiscuity. Am i in the wrong place ???

This not faggot chan or storm front.
This is a place for not just white, but also black, mestizo, arab and asian pride as well. Gentile pride world wide.
Joy of Satan is about all the different races connecting with the Gods of old, that predated abrahamic filth by thousands of years, Gods that every gentile civilization knew by different names.

We are racially aware. We believe in practicing racial hygiene and so do our Gods. Every Gentile race is made by Satan, and is meant to evolve and grow on their own in their own way and each race has their own special characteristics. We all have one common enemy: the jews, and the ones that made them.

It is the intent by Satan and all the Gods of Hell that we advance spiritually and evolve into the best versions of ourselves for all our peoples. Alot of emphasis is put on whites surviving because we are a minority on this planet. But we need the other races to be fighting and standing with us as all gentiles are of Satan.

There were also Black and Arab SS units, Usbeks and Armenians ect. Unbenownst to many NS germany was very satanic and they despised xnity and all its jewish teachings.

You have a very abrahamic view of sex. The rebuttal of "i am not xtian" means nothing, as even atheists and agnostics and "pagans" from gab ect still have alot of abrahamic notions about Satan, gender relations, human nature and many other things. The brainwashing has been universal and is not limited to xtians or muslims.

You are passing off monogamy as the only way and are looking down on people for wanting to have sex. This is unnatural and wrong. The kundalini energy itself is purely sexual. The simple fact of nature is, is that some people are naturally monogamous while others are not. It is jewish to promote and force sameness and very communistic. We follow natural law and people following their own nature...for many this leads them to form families or monogamous pairs. For others it means having multiple partners or perhaps not at all.

You are speaking for a monogamy is a one size fits all deal from a very xtian tainted "white nationalist" doctrine. Almost all of stormfront and other "pagans" have the right idea about wanting to look out for whites in general, but everything they spout is full of xtian crap.

If you are serious about being here and have good and serious intentions, which i honestly am conflicted on, then you will study satanisgod.org, start meditating and start deprogramming yourself. you will find the topics there about the third reich and satanism also very interesting.

Also for the record, i hope you know its hypocritical to hope for a woman with a low sex partner count when you have confessed having many many others. I don't care what a man's excuse is, i would tell him to go on about the same sex life he has always had and flat turn him down, because i know for certain he is going to drift.

 

[Shadowcat]

I didn't say men don't cheat, I was only replying to ol adgedco who says men are worse but according to research it is the opposite, if your boyfriend cheated on you then that's very bad but don't bring personal matter into the facts.

You are also trying to give advice on matters you no nothing of. You don't need a piece of paper, a ring or a ceremony that costs as much as a house to say you want to spend your life with someone. We lived and behaved as life partners and it was the intent. Putting it in official documents especially in this day and age can really fuck someone over financially. I would never marry on paper.

Whatever... If you want to stay with someone forever without marriage then that's your own.

It looks wierd from an american perspective, but i lived most of my adult life in Europe.
Where I was, it was celebrated and given cards for if a couple started living together. (ask any dutch SS and they will concur on most if not all of this) Europeans in certain countries look at marriage and lifelong partnership dynamics abit different. If the two have serious intentions it's often not always put down on paper, and is often for financial or other practical reasons. Even my own parents here in the states one time considering "divorcing" because of the tax cut it would provide.

For other cases, marriage on paper is better for some like if something happens to your spouse. Whatever is chosen to be best is on a case by case basis. For me, i am honestly in the mindset someone is going to try to get me for all of my shit and run :lol: and even with prenups there is loopholes.

This is no longer something for me to worry about however.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

It looks wierd from an american perspective, but i lived most of my adult life in Europe.
Where I was, it was celebrated and given cards for if a couple started living together. (ask any dutch SS and they will concur on most if not all of this) Europeans in certain countries look at marriage and lifelong partnership dynamics abit different. If the two have serious intentions it's often not always put down on paper, and is often for financial or other practical reasons. Even my own parents here in the states one time considering "divorcing" because of the tax cut it would provide.

The only way to make a man truly commit is marriage. If not he won’t take the relationship serious which is why you can’t seem to keep a man. You have to put pressure on them or the relationship will remain a joke and there’s no skin in the game which makes it so that anyone can leave at any time without penalty. That’s not a serious relationship at all.

Marriage is more than just the hang ups that you described. It’s very symbolic and makes your relationship REAL in the eyes of your families and the world. You’re way too old to have this childish view on such an essential institution for a long term relationship .

For other cases, marriage on paper is better for some like if something happens to your spouse. Whatever is chosen to be best is on a case by case basis. For me, i am honestly in the mindset someone is going to try to get me for all of my shit and run :lol: and even with prenups there is loopholes.

This has to be a joke right? Every single time in a divorce the woman gets everything so I don’t think you have to worry about that. Even so most men aren’t malicious and vindictive after a failed relationship and want the best for their ex, unlike women so they wouldn’t want to take your stuff anyway.

 

[Shadowcat]

It looks wierd from an american perspective, but i lived most of my adult life in Europe.
Where I was, it was celebrated and given cards for if a couple started living together. (ask any dutch SS and they will concur on most if not all of this) Europeans in certain countries look at marriage and lifelong partnership dynamics abit different. If the two have serious intentions it's often not always put down on paper, and is often for financial or other practical reasons. Even my own parents here in the states one time considering "divorcing" because of the tax cut it would provide.

The only way to make a man truly commit is marriage. If not he won’t take the relationship serious which is why you can’t seem to keep a man. You have to put pressure on them or the relationship will remain a joke and there’s no skin in the game which makes it so that anyone can leave at any time without penalty. That’s not a serious relationship at all.

Marriage is more than just the hang ups that you described. It’s very symbolic and makes your relationship REAL in the eyes of your families and the world. You’re way too old to have this childish view on such an essential institution for a long term relationship .

For other cases, marriage on paper is better for some like if something happens to your spouse. Whatever is chosen to be best is on a case by case basis. For me, i am honestly in the mindset someone is going to try to get me for all of my shit and run :lol: and even with prenups there is loopholes.

This has to be a joke right? Every single time in a divorce the woman gets everything so I don’t think you have to worry about that. Even so most men aren’t malicious and vindictive after a failed relationship and want the best for their ex, unlike women so they wouldn’t want to take your stuff anyway.

Shut the fuck up already and Leave. You are a useless piece of shit and everything you say is nothing but trash.

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

Shut the fuck up already and Leave. You are a useless piece of shit and everything you say is nothing but trash.

What’s with the hostility? I gave you sound advice. If you don’t like it then all I have to say is, “don’t hate the player hate the game”. I didn’t make it this way, but it is this way, so you have to work within these parameters when it comes to a relationship. If not then you won’t be successful, again not my fault.

 

[Top Striker]

I don't even understand what is going on here ? How can you foster strong white families with a promiscuous father or mother ? How can you do this with the Divorce ? I thought this was a fucking White Nationalist forum with a strong emphasis on spirituality but a bunch of posters are arguing for normalizing promiscuity. Am i in the wrong place ???

This not faggot chan or storm front.
This is a place for not just white, but also black, mestizo, arab and asian pride as well. Gentile pride world wide.
Joy of Satan is about all the different races connecting with the Gods of old, that predated abrahamic filth by thousands of years, Gods that every gentile civilization knew by different names.

We are racially aware. We believe in practicing racial hygiene and so do our Gods. Every Gentile race is made by Satan, and is meant to evolve and grow on their own in their own way and each race has their own special characteristics. We all have one common enemy: the jews, and the ones that made them.

It is the intent by Satan and all the Gods of Hell that we advance spiritually and evolve into the best versions of ourselves for all our peoples. Alot of emphasis is put on whites surviving because we are a minority on this planet. But we need the other races to be fighting and standing with us as all gentiles are of Satan.

There were also Black and Arab SS units, Usbeks and Armenians ect. Unbenownst to many NS germany was very satanic and they despised xnity and all its jewish teachings.

You have a very abrahamic view of sex. The rebuttal of "i am not xtian" means nothing, as even atheists and agnostics and "pagans" from gab ect still have alot of abrahamic notions about Satan, gender relations, human nature and many other things. The brainwashing has been universal and is not limited to xtians or muslims.

You are passing off monogamy as the only way and are looking down on people for wanting to have sex. This is unnatural and wrong. The kundalini energy itself is purely sexual. The simple fact of nature is, is that some people are naturally monogamous while others are not. It is jewish to promote and force sameness and very communistic. We follow natural law and people following their own nature...for many this leads them to form families or monogamous pairs. For others it means having multiple partners or perhaps not at all.

You are speaking for a monogamy is a one size fits all deal from a very xtian tainted "white nationalist" doctrine. Almost all of stormfront and other "pagans" have the right idea about wanting to look out for whites in general, but everything they spout is full of xtian crap.

If you are serious about being here and have good and serious intentions, which i honestly am conflicted on, then you will study satanisgod.org, start meditating and start deprogramming yourself. you will find the topics there about the third reich and satanism also very interesting.

Also for the record, i hope you know its hypocritical to hope for a woman with a low sex partner count when you have confessed having many many others. I don't care what a man's excuse is, i would tell him to go on about the same sex life he has always had and flat turn him down, because i know for certain he is going to drift.

As long as the non whites are within our countries ,they are all our mortal enemies. Every single one of them.

 

[tabby]

Both of you make good points, and it has me wondering if perhaps the main difference between monogamous and polyamorous people could be a biochemical one. I already found out a while ago that there are genetic factors to it, so if it’s due to a neurochemical process like Shadowcat describes, then that process could simply be different for people who are polyamorously inclined.

I tend to find it difficult to let go, and as a result, it's happened before that I fell in love with a person while already being in love with another. When that happened, it felt like my very Soul was being torn apart in two directions. It was excruciating to the point that I broke down mentally, and was eventually able to break up when my emotions had gone completely numb from the pain. In hindsight that was for the best, as the relationship I was in at the time had unsolveable problems that only kept getting worse, so I had to let go.

Given that, I know that I personally could never love or date multiple people at the same time. I would experience a constant sense of numbness and agony, as for me to be in love means to devote my entire being to someone, but I only have a single self to devote.

Clearly, for you it works differently. It sounds like your bond with your Demon does not detract from your bond with Jrvan in any way. Instead of it being a matter of dividing what you have and merging, is it perhaps more like building bridges?

What I'm trying to say is, perhaps this "pair-bonding" that Shadowcat speaks of is actually really a thing. And perhaps, due to some genetic or neurochemical difference or whatnot, you and Jrvan are able to "pair-bond" with multiple people at the same time. After all, there doesn't appear to be a desire to expand the relationship further than it has, so it's not like like there's isn't any pairing at all.

Both of you are involved in two pairs each, but unlike would be the case for me, those pairs and bonds aren't mutually exclusive.
At the very least, that's what it looks like from my outside perspective. Is that what it feels like to you as well?

Perhaps that is a more wise way of looking at it.

Both my Demon lover and Jrvan are my family. To me at least, it's like creating a small family unit together. I trust them completely and I am treated just as important to them as anyone else they love in their life.

Labels of what the relationship is really don't matter to me anyone, and feels like it puts things into an unnecessary box. It just is what it is. Whatever my partners needs are, I will do my best to provide that, if things change I will change with it.

Trying to explain about it any further and I'll just end up repeating myself. :lol:

Personally, I think astrology has a lot more to do with how one bonds with others than anything else.

Personally, I think astrology has a lot more to do with how one bonds with others than anything else.

This is precisely the argument i have been making the whole time....If you had significant knowledge of astrology which i recommend it is very rewarding, you will agree with a lot of what i have presented.

A i said, natural predispositions...

Also something I wanted to add as far as the hurt aspect, if this is a factor with any. Someone experiencing disappointment and developing a nihilistic approach to sex and love is also a problem with bonding with others as we know. Having satanic knowledge can fix this but depends on the person and how much energy is required,it isnt easy 123, this may take a long time, but is not impossible obviously. But because the majority population does not have this knowlege and until more and more SS significantly advance, my point about monogamous pair bonding this whole time with either case will still stand as i have been speaking for the present tense of things as a whole, and not just about the 2 percent.

Kudos to any exceptions, as these must become the norm in time i should hope, but this is not the case yet, and it will take a long time before the majority of people advance and become self aware.

This is also all I have to say myself about it. All relations are different and fit each one of us different, indeed without labels.

You seem upset with me, so I scrolled back through the comments to see what I missed…

If you’re referring to these two comments:

…

…

Frankly… as I type this I still haven’t read them in their entirety. I saw the one where you told me to ignore something you had said in a comment before it first. Confused by this, I went to check the other one at the part mentioned (scrolling upward naturally brings up the bottom part of a comment first either way)… I didn’t want to read the rest after that.

I’m not sure how you expect me to ignore that, Shadowcat. Not with the intention behind them and the sensation that it caused in my chest chakra. I guess I understand now what you meant about being careful with who you open your heart to.

You do a lot of good for the forums, and I appreciate the help you have previously given me directly and indirectly. It won’t be going to waste.

However, you should know by now I’m not one to forget an insult even if it was born out of an error, nor the use of manipulation. You meant those words, and I’m not exactly feeling encouraged to seek further help from your knowledge bank if it is going to be used against me and shame me with it whenever you lose your temper.

 

[Shadowcat]

Shut the fuck up already and Leave. You are a useless piece of shit and everything you say is nothing but trash.

What’s with the hostility? I gave you sound advice. If you don’t like it then all I have to say is, “don’t hate the player hate the game”. I didn’t make it this way, but it is this way, so you have to work within these parameters when it comes to a relationship. If not then you won’t be successful, again not my fault.

Maybe others should have asked you that when you badmouthed Lydia and VOE. You gave nothing but shit and are spewing nonsense. Marriage is more than just a piece of paper. You don't care though and are just here to troll so i have no respect for you, you have no good intentions whatsoever. If you were you would be asking questions, wanting to advance instead of attacking members all the time and posting inflammatory comments to waste peoples time.
If there is nothing here for you to gain and if you are not serious about this path, which you obviously are not, begone.
Bye.

 

[Shadowcat]

Perhaps that is a more wise way of looking at it.

Both my Demon lover and Jrvan are my family. To me at least, it's like creating a small family unit together. I trust them completely and I am treated just as important to them as anyone else they love in their life.

Labels of what the relationship is really don't matter to me anyone, and feels like it puts things into an unnecessary box. It just is what it is. Whatever my partners needs are, I will do my best to provide that, if things change I will change with it.

Trying to explain about it any further and I'll just end up repeating myself. :lol:

Personally, I think astrology has a lot more to do with how one bonds with others than anything else.

Personally, I think astrology has a lot more to do with how one bonds with others than anything else.

This is precisely the argument i have been making the whole time....If you had significant knowledge of astrology which i recommend it is very rewarding, you will agree with a lot of what i have presented.

A i said, natural predispositions...

Also something I wanted to add as far as the hurt aspect, if this is a factor with any. Someone experiencing disappointment and developing a nihilistic approach to sex and love is also a problem with bonding with others as we know. Having satanic knowledge can fix this but depends on the person and how much energy is required,it isnt easy 123, this may take a long time, but is not impossible obviously. But because the majority population does not have this knowlege and until more and more SS significantly advance, my point about monogamous pair bonding this whole time with either case will still stand as i have been speaking for the present tense of things as a whole, and not just about the 2 percent.

Kudos to any exceptions, as these must become the norm in time i should hope, but this is not the case yet, and it will take a long time before the majority of people advance and become self aware.

This is also all I have to say myself about it. All relations are different and fit each one of us different, indeed without labels.

You seem upset with me, so I scrolled back through the comments to see what I missed…

If you’re referring to these two comments:

…

…

Frankly… as I type this I still haven’t read them in their entirety. I saw the one where you told me to ignore something you had said in a comment before it first. Confused by this, I went to check the other one at the part mentioned (scrolling upward naturally brings up the bottom part of a comment first either way)… I didn’t want to read the rest after that.

I’m not sure how you expect me to ignore that, Shadowcat. Not with the intention behind them and the sensation that it caused in my chest chakra. I guess I understand now what you meant about being careful with who you open your heart to.

You do a lot of good for the forums, and I appreciate the help you have previously given me directly and indirectly. It won’t be going to waste.

However, you should know by now I’m not one to forget an insult even if it was born out of an error, nor the use of manipulation. You meant those words, and I’m not exactly feeling encouraged to seek further help from your knowledge bank if it is going to be used against me and shame me with it whenever you lose your temper.

My comments were explaining to you my views, and i was calm the whole time. I have not manipulted you in any way. I do not insult or hurt others unprovoked, and it looked like at first what you said here

btw, the whole pair bonding thing sounds like bullshit from people who have hangups.
You can use magick to break and destroy bonds with people you've had sex with in order to have new relationship/s with people freely. You can also reform bonds you've previously broken with the same person again. Limiting yourself to have sex with as few people as possible to retain idk purity?? Come on.

What have people been reading the years they've been in JoS?

was directed at me, since i am the only one in this thread that mentioned pair bonding. it looked like you were basically talking down to me without having the guts to quote me. BECAUSE i liked you that hurt and I expressed that to you. If you think that is manipulation you are wrong.

I found the other comment you wrote AFTER seeing the one that starts with "ill be honest..." and i replied there telling you to ignore me replying to this quote, as i told you i felt to have misinterpreted something that i thought was directed at me...however later after posting i even saw the "ill be honest" quote was posted about 2 hours after the other long one, so wasn't even sure then if you were basically saying "well ill be honest that was all meant for you"

If this was not directed at me and i misinterpereted once again, then good, and i even tried to own up to that misinterpretation mistake by saying "please ignore that one part". We aren't allowed to edit any comments. Nevertheless if you want to hold a grudge it is your problem not mine.

 

[Shadowcat]

Perhaps that is a more wise way of looking at it.

Both my Demon lover and Jrvan are my family. To me at least, it's like creating a small family unit together. I trust them completely and I am treated just as important to them as anyone else they love in their life.

Labels of what the relationship is really don't matter to me anyone, and feels like it puts things into an unnecessary box. It just is what it is. Whatever my partners needs are, I will do my best to provide that, if things change I will change with it.

Trying to explain about it any further and I'll just end up repeating myself. :lol:

Personally, I think astrology has a lot more to do with how one bonds with others than anything else.

Personally, I think astrology has a lot more to do with how one bonds with others than anything else.

This is precisely the argument i have been making the whole time....If you had significant knowledge of astrology which i recommend it is very rewarding, you will agree with a lot of what i have presented.

A i said, natural predispositions...

Also something I wanted to add as far as the hurt aspect, if this is a factor with any. Someone experiencing disappointment and developing a nihilistic approach to sex and love is also a problem with bonding with others as we know. Having satanic knowledge can fix this but depends on the person and how much energy is required,it isnt easy 123, this may take a long time, but is not impossible obviously. But because the majority population does not have this knowlege and until more and more SS significantly advance, my point about monogamous pair bonding this whole time with either case will still stand as i have been speaking for the present tense of things as a whole, and not just about the 2 percent.

Kudos to any exceptions, as these must become the norm in time i should hope, but this is not the case yet, and it will take a long time before the majority of people advance and become self aware.

This is also all I have to say myself about it. All relations are different and fit each one of us different, indeed without labels.

You seem upset with me, so I scrolled back through the comments to see what I missed…

If you’re referring to these two comments:

…

…

Frankly… as I type this I still haven’t read them in their entirety. I saw the one where you told me to ignore something you had said in a comment before it first. Confused by this, I went to check the other one at the part mentioned (scrolling upward naturally brings up the bottom part of a comment first either way)… I didn’t want to read the rest after that.

I’m not sure how you expect me to ignore that, Shadowcat. Not with the intention behind them and the sensation that it caused in my chest chakra. I guess I understand now what you meant about being careful with who you open your heart to.

You do a lot of good for the forums, and I appreciate the help you have previously given me directly and indirectly. It won’t be going to waste.

However, you should know by now I’m not one to forget an insult even if it was born out of an error, nor the use of manipulation. You meant those words, and I’m not exactly feeling encouraged to seek further help from your knowledge bank if it is going to be used against me and shame me with it whenever you lose your temper.

I have by the way emailed you Tabby. I dont want this to drag on and waste others time as well. I will leave my explanation there. Hopefully it can be worked out

 

[The Outlaw Torn]

Maybe others should have asked you that when you badmouthed Lydia and VOE.

I haven’t “badmouthed” anyone.

Marriage is more than just a piece of paper.

Yes I agree. That was my whole point. I thought you didn’t understand that and saw marriage as useless which is why I made that comment…

 

[tabby]

This is precisely the argument i have been making the whole time....If you had significant knowledge of astrology which i recommend it is very rewarding, you will agree with a lot of what i have presented.

A i said, natural predispositions...

Also something I wanted to add as far as the hurt aspect, if this is a factor with any. Someone experiencing disappointment and developing a nihilistic approach to sex and love is also a problem with bonding with others as we know. Having satanic knowledge can fix this but depends on the person and how much energy is required,it isnt easy 123, this may take a long time, but is not impossible obviously. But because the majority population does not have this knowlege and until more and more SS significantly advance, my point about monogamous pair bonding this whole time with either case will still stand as i have been speaking for the present tense of things as a whole, and not just about the 2 percent.

Kudos to any exceptions, as these must become the norm in time i should hope, but this is not the case yet, and it will take a long time before the majority of people advance and become self aware.

This is also all I have to say myself about it. All relations are different and fit each one of us different, indeed without labels.

You seem upset with me, so I scrolled back through the comments to see what I missed…

If you’re referring to these two comments:

…

…

Frankly… as I type this I still haven’t read them in their entirety. I saw the one where you told me to ignore something you had said in a comment before it first. Confused by this, I went to check the other one at the part mentioned (scrolling upward naturally brings up the bottom part of a comment first either way)… I didn’t want to read the rest after that.

I’m not sure how you expect me to ignore that, Shadowcat. Not with the intention behind them and the sensation that it caused in my chest chakra. I guess I understand now what you meant about being careful with who you open your heart to.

You do a lot of good for the forums, and I appreciate the help you have previously given me directly and indirectly. It won’t be going to waste.

However, you should know by now I’m not one to forget an insult even if it was born out of an error, nor the use of manipulation. You meant those words, and I’m not exactly feeling encouraged to seek further help from your knowledge bank if it is going to be used against me and shame me with it whenever you lose your temper.

I have by the way emailed you Tabby. I dont want this to drag on and waste others time as well. I will leave my explanation there. Hopefully it can be worked out

I saw, and responded.

 

[Shadowcat]

I don't even understand what is going on here ? How can you foster strong white families with a promiscuous father or mother ? How can you do this with the Divorce ? I thought this was a fucking White Nationalist forum with a strong emphasis on spirituality but a bunch of posters are arguing for normalizing promiscuity. Am i in the wrong place ???

This not faggot chan or storm front.
This is a place for not just white, but also black, mestizo, arab and asian pride as well. Gentile pride world wide.
Joy of Satan is about all the different races connecting with the Gods of old, that predated abrahamic filth by thousands of years, Gods that every gentile civilization knew by different names.

We are racially aware. We believe in practicing racial hygiene and so do our Gods. Every Gentile race is made by Satan, and is meant to evolve and grow on their own in their own way and each race has their own special characteristics. We all have one common enemy: the jews, and the ones that made them.

It is the intent by Satan and all the Gods of Hell that we advance spiritually and evolve into the best versions of ourselves for all our peoples. Alot of emphasis is put on whites surviving because we are a minority on this planet. But we need the other races to be fighting and standing with us as all gentiles are of Satan.

There were also Black and Arab SS units, Usbeks and Armenians ect. Unbenownst to many NS germany was very satanic and they despised xnity and all its jewish teachings.

You have a very abrahamic view of sex. The rebuttal of "i am not xtian" means nothing, as even atheists and agnostics and "pagans" from gab ect still have alot of abrahamic notions about Satan, gender relations, human nature and many other things. The brainwashing has been universal and is not limited to xtians or muslims.

You are passing off monogamy as the only way and are looking down on people for wanting to have sex. This is unnatural and wrong. The kundalini energy itself is purely sexual. The simple fact of nature is, is that some people are naturally monogamous while others are not. It is jewish to promote and force sameness and very communistic. We follow natural law and people following their own nature...for many this leads them to form families or monogamous pairs. For others it means having multiple partners or perhaps not at all.

You are speaking for a monogamy is a one size fits all deal from a very xtian tainted "white nationalist" doctrine. Almost all of stormfront and other "pagans" have the right idea about wanting to look out for whites in general, but everything they spout is full of xtian crap.

If you are serious about being here and have good and serious intentions, which i honestly am conflicted on, then you will study satanisgod.org, start meditating and start deprogramming yourself. you will find the topics there about the third reich and satanism also very interesting.

Also for the record, i hope you know its hypocritical to hope for a woman with a low sex partner count when you have confessed having many many others. I don't care what a man's excuse is, i would tell him to go on about the same sex life he has always had and flat turn him down, because i know for certain he is going to drift.

As long as the non whites are within our countries ,they are all our mortal enemies. Every single one of them.

The jews have been shilling for race wars for a long time. The main focus of this is to keep the focus off of themselves. AS a result they cause problem reaction solution issues, such as the BLM and mass immigration crap. They do everything they can to bring out the worst in every race so they all hate and want to kill each other, instead of going after the jews.

Race wars are jewish made. More people need to wake up so we can fight towards the goal of every race having its place to evolve and grow without encroaching the other, without jewish influence. jews are using nonwhites as their pawns to outbreed and destroy whites, as the whites are the jews' archenemy because whites are descendants of Satan, brainwashing nonwhites telling them how entitled they are and how they should be eternal victims of things that are blamed on whites, when infact these things are jewish deeds, while knowing the whites will naturally react with hate and violence to preserve themselves, most of the time not knowing the exact causality, which is the jewish agenda.

whites and non whites alike need to be educated about the dangers of racemixing and throwing away cultural identity. Blacks need to learn who is really responsible for slavery (it sure wasnt whitie!), as well as they and other nonwhites need to wake up, not depend on the state and realize they aren't supposed to be eternal victims of raysis crap that never existed in the first place, things whites had no real hand in.

It all basically boils down to this:
man from hooknose tribe tell man from shadowtribe lies about Grug. Say Grug hate him and think he stupid. Cannot be friends with Grug. hooknose tell shadowtribe man more lies that Grug make shadowtribe man family dead and slaves when hooknose tribe one who make dead and slaves.

Shadowtribe man angry. Hate Grug. Shadowtribe man gather his tribesmen and kill Grug family dead. Grug angry and sad. Grug now hate shadowman tribe and make his family dead, while hooknose tribe tell yellow and brown man tribe the same lies about Grug.

Its literally that simple. Now many Gruglings and shadowlings see truth about hooknose. Must warn others. Now Grugtribe together with brownman yellow man and shadowmantribe make hooknose tribe dead with RTR's before going back to their respective caves for their tribes.

I literally can't wait for that day.