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Hey everyone,

I just saw edwardtgao8's post called "Hexahedron" and how he said that "allah" is a servitor and the quran is a grimoire.

This made me curious.
I was wondering what exactly a grimoire is in reference to a thoughtform/servitor. Is it something that one can use in collaboration with a servitor to gain some sort of benefit?
And also, if there is some use to a grimoire, how would one go about writing one? (E. g. what types of things should be written in there and how should it be structured? Is it like a set of commands for the servitor?)
Maybe someone here even has a grimoire and can share some knowledge with me.
Regardless of having one or not, I would appreciate any input you guys are willing to give me. I'm looking forward to any answers.


-Shael
 
A grimoire is a book of instructions for manipulating spiritual beings. Most grimoires have all sorts of abusive methods for manipulating Demons, but some (like the quran) manipulate advanced thoughtforms. By generating massive amounts of prayer energy and constantly focusing on verses from the quran, billions of deluded muslims work to make the writings of the quran into reality where the messiah (the jewish thoughtform) obtains physical form, "returns," to implement the jewish world slave state.

The torah is the root of power for the enemy thoughtforms. The torah was written using magickal formulas that were stolen from gentile civilizations and then used to destroy those civilizations. An example of this is the extensive use of numerology in the torah and the timing of attacks against gentile civilization is aligned with specific torah verses. Everything about the torah and jewish magick is stolen from gentile civilizations. Ancient alphabets had magickal power and Hebrew was stolen from languages including ancient Phoenician and Greek. Every letter in the torah has been charged with massive amounts of energy over thousands of years which is why each torah must be painstakingly copied by hand and if even one letter is off, the entire copy is thrown out.

"Matthew 5:17 - Rabbi Jesus Talks:

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Torah [Jewish Law] or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.
For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single yod, not a vav, will disappear from the Torah [Jewish Law] until everything is accomplished.…" [Yod and Vav are Hebrew Letters]."

The torah has power because it and the jewish thoughtforms have been charged with so much energy for a long period of time. High-ranking rabbis are given the secret names for calling upon those thoughtforms to do their bidding.

To make an advanced servitor, dump massive amounts of energy into it. You can get some crystals and program the crystals to constantly absorb energy from the sun to empower your servitor. You can also program the servitor to constantly absorb energy from a source like the sun or moon. You can empower your servitor with the elements, runes, and anything else you can think of.

 
Thanks for the reply johnson akemi.Which crystals would you recommend for that purpose? 

-Shael
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:22, johnson_akemi@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   A grimoire is a book of instructions for manipulating spiritual beings. Most grimoires have all sorts of abusive methods for manipulating Demons, but some (like the quran) manipulate advanced thoughtforms. By generating massive amounts of prayer energy and constantly focusing on verses from the quran, billions of deluded muslims work to make the writings of the quran into reality where the messiah (the jewish thoughtform) obtains physical form, "returns," to implement the jewish world slave state.

The torah is the root of power for the enemy thoughtforms. The torah was written using magickal formulas that were stolen from gentile civilizations and then used to destroy those civilizations. An example of this is the extensive use of numerology in the torah and the timing of attacks against gentile civilization is aligned with specific torah verses. Everything about the torah and jewish magick is stolen from gentile civilizations. Ancient alphabets had magickal power and Hebrew was stolen from languages including ancient Phoenician and Greek. Every letter in the torah has been charged with massive amounts of energy over thousands of years which is why each torah must be painstakingly copied by hand and if even one letter is off, the entire copy is thrown out.

"Matthew 5:17 - Rabbi Jesus Talks:

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Torah [Jewish Law] or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.
For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single yod, not a vav, will disappear from the Torah [Jewish Law] until everything is accomplished.…" [Yod and Vav are Hebrew Letters]."

The torah has power because it and the jewish thoughtforms have been charged with so much energy for a long period of time. High-ranking rabbis are given the secret names for calling upon those thoughtforms to do their bidding.

To make an advanced servitor, dump massive amounts of energy into it. You can get some crystals and program the crystals to constantly absorb energy from the sun to empower your servitor. You can also program the servitor to constantly absorb energy from a source like the sun or moon. You can empower your servitor with the elements, runes, and anything else you can think of.
 
Quartz is good for directing energy. You can program any metal, crystal, and even something like a glass of water to absorb energy, direct energy, or otherwise enhance your magickal workings. Different materials have their own unique properties are are better for uses aligning with their properties. Because so much knowledge has been lost, you will need to learn through personal experience the properties of different crystals and metals. Here is a sermon from High Priestess Shannon Outlaw regarding some properties of crystals, metals, and herbs:

A Little Information on Crystals, Gems, Stones, Herbs and Metals for Magickal Use
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Joy ... ges/168887
 
I read the post you linked and "gold" was mentioned to be effective, too. My idea now is to link my thoughtform and my pure-gold pendant so that, whenever I wear it, all excess energy I have is transferred to my thought form (in a positive and healthy way for me). Do you think that should work out? [I just want to avoid making mistakes in regards to my thoughtform]

-Shael
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 19:29, johnson_akemi@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   Quartz is good for directing energy. You can program any metal, crystal, and even something like a glass of water to absorb energy, direct energy, or otherwise enhance your magickal workings. Different materials have their own unique properties are are better for uses aligning with their properties. Because so much knowledge has been lost, you will need to learn through personal experience the properties of different crystals and metals. Here is a sermon from High Priestess Shannon Outlaw regarding some properties of crystals, metals, and herbs:

A Little Information on Crystals, Gems, Stones, Herbs and Metals for Magickal Use
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Joy ... ges/168887
 
You could just program your thoughtform to constantly feed off the sun, you don't need gold to give your thoughtform your excess energy you can just program it to get it from you or just call the thoughtform and give it to him, I would spend my excess energy in better ways to be honest
 
@ed
If I'm at work and constantly watched, I cant give them any hints. So the only way to use excess energy is to passively have it transferred to my thoughtform.My total excess energy amounts to much more than my thoughtform would be able  take from the sun during that period of time, so it's more effective in strengthening it. Thanks for sharing your opinion though. 

-Shael
On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:21, ed8874@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   You could just program your thoughtform to constantly feed off the sun, you don't need gold to give your thoughtform your excess energy you can just program it to get it from you or just call the thoughtform and give it to him, I would spend my excess energy in better ways to be honest
 
You don't need to worry about making "mistakes" when making a thoughtform. Magick and meditation are not like school where there is one correct answer and everything else is wrong. There are many, many effective ways to make a thoughtform and none of the methods are more "right" than the others. You can chill and experiment freely when making your thoughtform. If you get locked in to the mentality where you have to do something  the "right" way, you will be shutting down your own creativity and ignoring really good ideas from your intuition. You should trust yourself. You are an advancing Satanist and your intuition is your best guide, along with the Gods of course.
 
Thanks for the kind advice, johnson akemi. :) 
The truth is, I created my thoughtform in a rather unusual way in the first place. It was saturday and the saturn energies made some stuff in my life go wrong. This made me so angry that I decided to do something to actually outright destroy saturn. So I formed a ball of dark black energy in my hand and continuously made it bigger with all my hatred and anger. After some time I imagined the energy shooting into space to about where saturn is. I then proceeded to make the energy so big that it had the size of an actual planet. Basically like a fully-black planet with a point-down pentagram in the middle (from front-view) and two planetary "rings" (I don't know what the actual term for those is) that were intersecting and met in the middle of the pentagram. Then I ofcourse programmed my "planet" to destroy saturn, as that was the original intention. This later shifted to ordering him to protect me (like a second AoP, but in the way of destroying those who attack me). Ofcourse since May 1st I instead ordered him to destroy all my enemies, in order to help our onslaught against the jews. 
I did indeed have my doubts about even keeping him because I have never actually heard of someone having a thoughtform made of black energy (and I thought it might be unhealthy or whatever), but the results he accomplished so far have kept me from doing so (he made me pass an exam for example). This is also why I am very thankful for your post, as it "hit the nail on the head", so to speak. I will definetly keep him. 

-Shael
On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 19:36, johnson_akemi@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   You don't need to worry about making "mistakes" when making a thoughtform. Magick and meditation are not like school where there is one correct answer and everything else is wrong. There are many, many effective ways to make a thoughtform and none of the methods are more "right" than the others. You can chill and experiment freely when making your thoughtform. If you get locked in to the mentality where you have to do something  the "right" way, you will be shutting down your own creativity and ignoring really good ideas from your intuition. You should trust yourself. You are an advancing Satanist and your intuition is your best guide, along with the Gods of course.
 
You can't destroy saturn with some energy in a ball, that's, that's just really stupid, and a waste of energy since nothing like this can be done.
 
saturns energies have been present to humans on earth since humans on earth.
don't you think it would be dumb to intentionally destroy an actual planets energy?
even if you were capable of doing it, which face it humans don't have a billionth of the energy that a whole planet does, it would probably yield bad results for our whole race, (correct me if I'm wrong) the planetary energies play a large role in proper reincarnation, and early soul development.
wouldn't eliminating Saturn make people different,and animals and plants and our planet different all to gather?
 
@ed and makesyouperfect
First off, again, I phrased this badly. I did not mean to destroy saturn as a whole, but to destroy the influence of saturn on myself. Also, as I already said in the initial post, I changed this later. I was simply very angry and that was a way to "vent", basically.I am well aware that it would take quite a while to destroy an actual planet, and also that it would be bad. But as stated above already, that wasn't even my intention in the first place. I just mentioned that because it had to do with the creation of my thoughtform. 

-Shael
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 9:56, makesyouperfect@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   saturns energies have been present to humans on earth since humans on earth.
don't you think it would be dumb to intentionally destroy an actual planets energy?
even if you were capable of doing it, which face it humans don't have a billionth of the energy that a whole planet does, it would probably yield bad results for our whole race, (correct me if I'm wrong) the planetary energies play a large role in proper reincarnation, and early soul development.
wouldn't eliminating Saturn make people different,and animals and plants and our planet different all to gather?
 
To remove the influence you can do sun squares, build a bigger aura of protection, using a thoughtform is weak in my opinion to do this.
 
@makesyouperfect, a planet has already been destroyed. A water-based planet between Mars and Jupiter was destroyed about 10,000 years ago by the enemy alien hive and this formed the asteroid belt present today. The destruction of the planet caused the "flood" mentioned in many ancient civilizations because continent-sized pieces of ice were crashing into the Earth. The jews then stole this and pretended in the bible that the flood was the work of the jewish god/thoughtform to genocide the gentile races and pave the way for the jews to rule the planet with the remaining gentiles as their slaves

Atlantis, Dinosaurs, Darwinism, MU, Cosmic Wars, ETs
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/post72440.html#p72440
 
@ed
What's strong and weak depends on the individual. I have a talent for black magick so I have found anything to do with black magick to be more effective for me. Like instead of defending myself from energies, it's more effective to destroy the senders instead (for me). Ofcourse I also do the regualr AoP twice daily, though (because the sent energies need to be fended off aswell). It's just that this amplifies the overall effectiveness. When I encounter attacks of greys for example, it usually takes about two hours (depends on their power) and then the attacks stop. Why is that? Because not only have their attacks been reflected back at them -- my thoughtform has also unleashed his wrath at them (because of the command "Destroy all my enemies", all those who attack me [that I don't consciously regard as friends, like SS for example], are classified as enemies and therefore destroyed. 
So while - for you -  it might be more effective to do sun squares, it is - for me - more effective to do stuff like the above. :) 

-Shael
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 19:55, ed8874@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   To remove the influence you can do sun squares, build a bigger aura of protection, using a thoughtform is weak in my opinion to do this.
 
I really wish the hps were more responsible in saying ridiculous shit like this...so let me get this straight there was a mostly water planet that was orbiting the sun between mars and juputer, that was blasted 3 UA across space directly  into the earth, that's some serious fucking trajectory!!!! 
sending massive comets into the earth filling it up with so much water that it killed 3/4 of all living organisms. only then after the reptilians nuked mars and the other nonexistent planet did the come here, kill off most of the demons, make the demons run away, and do such intense black magic against the demons, that they lost the powers of their souls.........

and then the put a couple hundred thousand jews on the planet, wrote two books and left???????????
why wouldn't the have fucking stayed to enslave us? I don't know about you guys but that doesn't sound right. if they came and they saw why would the bother engineering the jews when they could just use their hyper advanced weaponry to do it themselves.
do the reptillians really have such great confidence in their jew trash that when they come back the job will be done?
or perhaps we are meeting our energy quota already, and they have no reason to blast any more planets.
I don't know but it seems like somebody who has good astral senses should ask satan himself about that instead of Frank Joseph.

HAIL SATAN
 
oh by the way if a continent size piece of ice touched the earth, there would be another addition to the asteroid belt.
even an Australia sized ice chunk would make us dust,
a 100 square foot meteor traveling at its terminal rock velocity into the earth will destroy approximately 800 square miles  of land.  it has happened, Tunguska river 1908 
if I had to guess why the earth was tilted, I would say that even though the principal of gravitational attraction doesn't suggest the existence of gravitational poles, I belive that while the earth moves in its orbit one of the poles is most powerfully attracted to the sun in a magnet like fashion, so even though the momentum of the orbit keeps us moving normally, there is still a strong enough magnetic field to keep our planet askew in the suns direction.

nobody knows why the earth is tilted, but it is certainly not that ice hit it and now its stuck like that, if enough mass hit the earth as to move it on its side we would wouldn't be knocked over, as that's not how a free floating sphere works,
we would be moved out of proper orbit, and one way or another be either straightened back out by our normal gravity toward the sun into our original orientation, or we would be gone(ie in the sun,or floating in empty space)

you think that a continent sized amount of water entered our atmosphere and hit our planet?
let alone multiple continent size pieces of ice?
get real buddy
HAIL SATAN

 
@makesyiuperfect
The reptillians don't want to annihilate the earth, they want to use us as slaves to rip energy from us, they want to destroy the white race because we will always rebel but they will keep the asians and blacks and use them as energy resources, and make the book 1984 by orwell go alive.
 
I am not talking about protecting yourself from enemies with sun squares and other I said, I mean to protect yourself from the influence of saturn. I doubt that a thoughtform will protect you from saturn's influence.
 
My two thoughtforms also engage in conversation together sometimes, which is very wonderful and amusing to see.

They are both very capable, one being more advanced than the other but both are capable of basic speech and conversation. They communicate together and have their own personalities, which have evolved overtime and can change depending on how clean they are astrally.

It is important when you have a thoughtform to keep it clean as best as you can, by cleaing it's aura and soul periodically. Even when you program it to take in energy of the sun, if you give it a mission where it is away from you for a long time it's best to clean it well afterwards if you want to keep working with this same thoughtform and keep building it up and making it stronger.

Long lasting thoughtforms that are build to be future proof can stay wity you for a lifetime, and even multiple lifetimes in case you won't reach the magnum opus this lifetime. It can protect you in the afterlife and it can serve you there by giving your soul energy so you can better sustain yourself and it can do so much more.

Thoughtforms have huge potential when used correctly and are far more and far better than just one time use spiritual bombs to destroy a target or something.
 
About servitors/thoughtforms, I made mine tap into the energy of the Black sun. They are constantly absorbing power from the Black sun whenever they don't have anything to do, it's exremely powerful.

Making them absorb energy from the sun and black sun is way more efficient than having them absorb your own excess energy, since the sun and black sun have billions and billions of times more power in them than your potential excess energy, so your thoughtforms can take a lot more power from those sources than they can take from you.

You can also change thoughtforms over time, make them do different things, make them more advanced or less advanced.

I made a thoughtform that is capable of understanding speech and forming it's own words and to a degree even it's own oppinions. It can think to a degree. Not on the same level as a human being, since it has no physical body with a brain, but it is quite advanced in what it is capable of.

Even another Satanist was able to speak to it, although just very basic words, however still they were able to have a conversation with it and it spoke back to them.

I'm still experimenting with this and figuring out the limits and the possibilities, but they can do a lot and become very advanced elemental beings.

The way I make mine is combining two or more elemental energies together and giving the thoughtform a basic internal structure composed of a basic chakra system simmilar to our own chakra system. I took inspiration from Satans creation (our own soul) to try and make the most advanced thoughtform I am capable of creating at my current level and I'm still working on it to improve her and make her more advanced, more simmilar to our design on the soul level.

It is a long process, but it is very worth it and it is very rewarding. She is a healing thoughtform and she is capable of seeking out negative energy in the person I send her to herself and can identify the cause of the health problem from a spiritual perspective herself and then apply healing energy, by taking it from the sun and placing it in the persons soul where it is needed. She can also protect others and myself and identify threaths around me. She helps empower my AoP and my soul by filling it with energy from the Sun and Black sun at all times, which is a significant help and she has more than given me back the energy I had to put into her to create her. Which in my opinion means she is a good and effective creation.

I refer to this thoughtform as female, even though they technically do not have a gender, I found that giving them a form as specific as possible makes them more real and gives them more pressence, in my opinion humanoid thoughtforms are the most interesting and pleasant for me to work with.

I combined the Water element, Fire element and Ether element as well as the energy of Venus and the Sun into her being and balanced all these energies out, I gave her an astral body of my own creation with a basic chakra system where I filled each chakra with energy and programmed them to spin in order to empower her, then I gave her a more complete form, an astral body that resembles a 3 foot fairy with little wings, long hair and a slender female body. I gave her a name and then affirmed her purpose into her.

Over a couple months I have been working on her and empowering her, making her more capable and letting her learn things by looking into my soul and taking information from my soul, such as the ability to communicate and speak.

When I first created her she could not speak to me, she was unable to say or do anything, but a few days later after I ordered to attach to my soul and learn from me proper etiquette, proper speech and astral communication and as much spiritual knowledge regarding the Gods and spiritual truth she could learn from my soul she was able to speak with me and communicate almost as if talking to a human soul on the aether.

A while back my Guardian came to me and blessed her, she told me that this thoughtform was a splendid creation and I should be proud of her and I should keep working on her as she will be a valuable spiritual companion for my entire lifetime.
 
@makesyouperfect
You are merely jumping to conclusions here.What you said is that a continent-sized meteor would have destroyed us if we got hit by it. And you are completely right about that. However, mind the word *ICE*. What do you think happens to ice when entering our atmosphere and becoming extremely hot? Exactly. It *melts*. So these comets "hit" the earth in the sense that they entered it's atmosphere and melted, bringing about the big flood.What tilted the earth was not the impact of the comets, but the huge amount of water that they consisted of.
And about the reptilian attack and why they left --
The enemy only has sheer numbers. They are far below the power of our side. So all they were able to do was to force our gods to back off due to their overwhelming numbers. If they had stayed for a long time after that (to exterminate/enslave us), then they would have lost a huge amount of forces just to gain control over one planet. They would have had to sacrifice huge amounts of their forces to hold father satan and our gods back long enough to do that. This war involves more than just our planet. You should try to understand that.
Oh yeah and as a side-note... The reptilians didn't write any books whatsoever. All they did was quickly manipulate the DNA of a few humans in order to create the jews, and then they ran away. The jews alone are the ones that wrote these books. 

If you have anything else you find strange then feel free to add it to this conversation and I'll try my best to answer. 

-Shael

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:51, makesyouperfect@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   oh by the way if a continent size piece of ice touched the earth, there would be another addition to the asteroid belt.
even an Australia sized ice chunk would make us dust,
a 100 square foot meteor traveling at its terminal rock velocity into the earth will destroy approximately 800 square miles  of land.  it has happened, Tunguska river 1908 
if I had to guess why the earth was tilted, I would say that even though the principal of gravitational attraction doesn't suggest the existence of gravitational poles, I belive that while the earth moves in its orbit one of the poles is most powerfully attracted to the sun in a magnet like fashion, so even though the momentum of the orbit keeps us moving normally, there is still a strong enough magnetic field to keep our planet askew in the suns direction.

nobody knows why the earth is tilted, but it is certainly not that ice hit it and now its stuck like that, if enough mass hit the earth as to move it on its side we would wouldn't be knocked over, as that's not how a free floating sphere works,
we would be moved out of proper orbit, and one way or another be either straightened back out by our normal gravity toward the sun into our original orientation, or we would be gone(ie in the sun,or floating in empty space)

you think that a continent sized amount of water entered our atmosphere and hit our planet?
let alone multiple continent size pieces of ice?
get real buddy
HAIL SATAN
 
The exact specifics of that catastrophic event are unknown to us, but that water based planet being blasted to nothingness and huge chunks of ice impacting the earth did indeed happen.

Not sure if those pieces were contenent sized or not, but they were definitly huge since global sea levels are estimated to have risen by more than 300 meters because of the ice bombarding our planet.

Now the planet is very tough. Even if mars would crash into the earth at the terminal velocity of rock the earth would not be smashed to dust. It would crack open and perhaps break into a few pieces, but the planet would not be smashed to bits.

A few pieces of ice the size of a contiment would not destroy the earth, but it would (under normal circumstances) destroy all life on the planet and make it unlivable due to the surface damage done, however we do not know the extend of the power of the Gods and what they did to lessen the damage here on earth.

Also the reason the alien hive needed to leave and was unable to take direct control of earth is because the Gods of course actively opposed them. They are not some pushovers who got thousands killed because of that attack. We don't know how many casualties there were among the demons, probably there were some and they had to leave here because of the curses placed on them and the metaphysical barriers placed around the earth by the enemy, but that didn't stop them from fighting the alien hive and preventing them from completely taking us over.

That is why the aliens had to resort to dropping the jews on the planet 6000 years ago, about 4000 years after their initial attack that destroyed the planet between Mars and Jupiter.

Mars was made uninhabitable (the atmosphere was blown off) by the explosion that occured when that planet was wrecked by some unknown and ridiculous alien tech.

It is not far fetched at all that the reptillians are capable of wiping entire planets out of existence, since they are a highly advanced alien race and for the same reason it is completely not unreasonable to think that a race of aliens who are perfectly immortal, whose oldest members are well over 500.000 years old, posses the knowledge on how to use the infinite universal energy as they desire and have been able to freely develop technonoly and spiritual power for at least half a million years would be able to protect against such technology and prevent our planet earth from getting completely destroyed when it was bombarded by continent sized chunks of ice.


Maybe this is very abstract since it sounds insane that living beings could destroy planets and could fight each other with planet and potentially star system shaking weapons/power, but considering how long those beings have existed and how quickly technology can develop it is completely not far fetched at all.

Atomic weapons are the most destructive thing that the jew has developed here on earth, this tech they got from the alien hive, however dispite it's destructive capability it's childs play for beings like the Gods...

You have to get real and realize that beings who posses perfect immortality and have been alive and well for over half a million years can posses power greater than your mind is able to comprehend.

What kind of technologies the Gods and the highest level aliens posses are things we can only speculate about, in a couple hundred years we here on earth went from travel by horse and combat by sword to travel by airplane and combat with missiles that can destroy targets from thousands of kilometers away at near perfect accuracy. The alien hive which has existed for many thousands of years longer than that and owns many thousands of times the resources than us here on earth can definitely develop planet busting tech in all the time they have had to work on their insane destructive weaponry.

Seriously, think of yourself and what you have been able to learn and accomplish in this lifetime. Maybe it's not much, but even if it's not much, try to imagine how much you could learn and how much you could advance as a human being if you were to live for a thousand years and would steadily keep learning and advancing your entire self for those thousand years. Try to imagine where you potentially could be after all that time.

You would be a master here on earth, a master among masters. You could master all sciences, see all places on earth, become the ruler of multiple nations if you wanted to and more. The possibilities are endless. Add to this 499.000 more years and add to that advanced spiritual knowledge, and add to that the fact they have a huge empire with advanced technology and a level of advancement where compared to even the least accomplished demon in Satans empire that 1000 year old version of you who has mastered all of the earths siences and is the ruler of multiple nations would still be an inferior being.

Maybe you can see how it isn't so far fetched to think that the alien hive and the gods are fighting each other with planet busting technology and that the Gods have ways to defend against such weapons in case their enemies threathen to destroy one of their core worlds.
 
@ed
I know that you meant that.However, all that you do with a Sun-square is raise and program the suns energy for a specific purpose. A thoughtform is also just simply raised energy thats programmed for a specific purpose.So I don't quite think that a thoughtform would be incapable of achieving what simple raised energy can also achieve. 
-Shael
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 12:45, ed8874@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   I am not talking about protecting yourself from enemies with sun squares and other I said, I mean to protect yourself from the influence of saturn. I doubt that a thoughtform will protect you from saturn's influence.
 
@voiceofenki
It's delighting to see you join this conversation. :) 
I see that you have accomplished some impressive things in the thoughtform-department already. My accomplishments are rather shallow in comparance to that. 
Personally, I just feel like it forms more of a "connection" if I feed my thoughtform with my own excess energy. Also, I figured that it would be harder for my thoughtform to absorb energy from the sun/black sun than to simply collect my excess energy (which I willingly give to it). I might be wrong in that regard though. Also, if I was to command my thoughtform to absorb energy from somewhere, do you really think that the sun/black sun are appropriate sources, since my thoughtform is made of negative energy (for black magick)? I figured that the energies would clash if I did that, so maybe another source like saturn (or mars?) might be more fitting?

-Shael
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 12:46, voiceofenki@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   About servitors/thoughtforms, I made mine tap into the energy of the Black sun. They are constantly absorbing power from the Black sun whenever they don't have anything to do, it's exremely powerful.

Making them absorb energy from the sun and black sun is way more efficient than having them absorb your own excess energy, since the sun and black sun have billions and billions of times more power in them than your potential excess energy, so your thoughtforms can take a lot more power from those sources than they can take from you.

You can also change thoughtforms over time, make them do different things, make them more advanced or less advanced.

I made a thoughtform that is capable of understanding speech and forming it's own words and to a degree even it's own oppinions. It can think to a degree. Not on the same level as a human being, since it has no physical body with a brain, but it is quite advanced in what it is capable of.

Even another Satanist was able to speak to it, although just very basic words, however still they were able to have a conversation with it and it spoke back to them.

I'm still experimenting with this and figuring out the limits and the possibilities, but they can do a lot and become very advanced elemental beings.

The way I make mine is combining two or more elemental energies together and giving the thoughtform a basic internal structure composed of a basic chakra system simmilar to our own chakra system. I took inspiration from Satans creation (our own soul) to try and make the most advanced thoughtform I am capable of creating at my current level and I'm still working on it to improve her and make her more advanced, more simmilar to our design on the soul level.

It is a long process, but it is very worth it and it is very rewarding. She is a healing thoughtform and she is capable of seeking out negative energy in the person I send her to herself and can identify the cause of the health problem from a spiritual perspective herself and then apply healing energy, by taking it from the sun and placing it in the persons soul where it is needed. She can also protect others and myself and identify threaths around me. She helps empower my AoP and my soul by filling it with energy from the Sun and Black sun at all times, which is a significant help and she has more than given me back the energy I had to put into her to create her. Which in my opinion means she is a good and effective creation.

I refer to this thoughtform as female, even though they technically do not have a gender, I found that giving them a form as specific as possible makes them more real and gives them more pressence, in my opinion humanoid thoughtforms are the most interesting and pleasant for me to work with.

I combined the Water element, Fire element and Ether element as well as the energy of Venus and the Sun into her being and balanced all these energies out, I gave her an astral body of my own creation with a basic chakra system where I filled each chakra with energy and programmed them to spin in order to empower her, then I gave her a more complete form, an astral body that resembles a 3 foot fairy with little wings, long hair and a slender female body. I gave her a name and then affirmed her purpose into her.

Over a couple months I have been working on her and empowering her, making her more capable and letting her learn things by looking into my soul and taking information from my soul, such as the ability to communicate and speak.

When I first created her she could not speak to me, she was unable to say or do anything, but a few days later after I ordered to attach to my soul and learn from me proper etiquette, proper speech and astral communication and as much spiritual knowledge regarding the Gods and spiritual truth she could learn from my soul she was able to speak with me and communicate almost as if talking to a human soul on the aether.

A while back my Guardian came to me and blessed her, she told me that this thoughtform was a splendid creation and I should be proud of her and I should keep working on her as she will be a valuable spiritual companion for my entire lifetime.
 
Voiceofenki that is beautiful, really really beautiful, I hope many people read what you've done as it's very impressive and this is a beautiful thing to do:)
 
Sheal, I found that any thoughtform, even ones made purely for destruction benifit greatly by taking in energy from the sun as a core, or base.

Think of it like this: The greatest power comes from the light. Light is power.

My second thoughtform is made for destruction and he does a great job at it. Destruction I found is also very versatile, for example as an experiment, when I was having a mild food poisoning a few weeks back from eating some old meat on accident, I ordered my second thoughtform, made for destruction to destroy any negative energy or weakness that was in my being.

Which he did, instead of healing the illness, he destroyed the illness and it effectively healed me as well.

Normally I would have used my first thoughtform for this, since she is made for healing, but I had her doing something else at the time that was more important for her to do.

Now when I first created that second thoughtform based on destruction, I gave him a simpler form, he was made from black energy and red energy, which I combined with the energies of Saturn and Mars. Those energies I combined with the elements of fire and earth and Ether. I gave him that basic chakra structure and then programmed him.

He was already powerful this way, but I found that he was lacking something, so a few months later I decided to redo his creation, I gave him a core filled with energy of the sun and black sun this time and then bound the energy of saturn, mars and the 3 elements I used to this solid white gold core.

The increase in power was significant, he felt so much stronger.

I have him absorb energy from the sun as well, and bind this energy to the fire element, which can make it very destructive. He still has black energy in his aura too, so he can absorb energy from people I send him after and drain him, this black energy I bound to the earth element and the saturnian energies.


Because he has multiple different energies that are a part of him and that are balanced in a way they do not conflict with each other (by binding them to specific chakra's in his structure, giving the energy a place to settle instead of swirling wildly through his aura or energy body) he is capable of doing different things if I need him to do so and can take energy from multiple sources.

Black energy is basically light in reverse, it is darkness. There is a lot of power one can take from that, but light is where power comes from. Having a strong core of bright light seems to be good for any thoughtform.


If you look at our souls, we have 7 main chakra's and a very complicated system of minor chakra's, connected by meridians, which then are connected to the light body, the soul, the astral body, the physical body and everything is interfaced and balanced perfectly. It's so complicated it's actually difficult to get a full picture of our multidimensional methaphysical being.

The chakra's consist of all the planets energies, and the 4 corners of our soul are bound to the 4 elements, with the center consisting of the Ether. We have many different energies flowing though our beings, which is what makes us so advanced and gives us so much potential power. Of course most of our potential comes from the Kundalini and pur advanced ability to learn to tap into the infinite universal Ether and make use of it, just like the Gods.


I applied a simmilar approach to the creation of my thoughtforms, but of course I am no god and can not recreate the human soul. I did the best I could in making a basic structure reminicent of the human soul, giving my thoughtform a seperate light body (their aura), an astral body and a chakra structure where I could seperate the energies from each other by giving each chakra a specific property of their being.

Fire and water for example, don't mix well. So I bound one chakra to the fire energy I used and one chakra to the water energy I used, this way the thoughtform could make use of both those elemental properties without having these elements clash.

I used Ether to balance out the two elements I used in the creation, since it is neutral and doesn't clash with other energies.


In the case of your thoughtform sheal, you could give it a basic inner structure and let it take energy from Saturn and the sun/black sun. The power it takes from the sun it can use to increase it's overal power, while the power taken from Saturn it can use to destroy targets or things you want it to destroy.

You could even attempt to program it to take the negative saturnian energies from your soul, and fill your soul with powerful energy from the sun and black sun at the same time, instead of trying to have it destroy saturns influence over you.

Saturn is important for us, but perhaps by programming a thoughtform to absorb all the negative saturnian energies from you, leaving the positive influence it has on you alone and then fill itself with energy of the sun to balance out this negative energy so the thoughtform doesn't get damaged or destroyed over time, which it can also fill your soul with at the same time could be very benificial.


I also think it's important when making thoughtforms, that you try to get more energy out of them than you put in them. If you need to let it absorb your excess energy all the time then it won't give you back any energy, you won't get a good return out of the initial energy invested into the creation of the thoughtform.

Energy is wealth in the more advanced societies and in the societies of the Gods. They don't sue corrency, but they use energy. Ones energy equals ones power and ones wealth and status. Here on earth not so much yet, since money is pretty much what dictates how much power someone has, but it is good to start building up your total energy "bank" so you can have more power when the world starts changing and adapting this satanic "economy" where energy is the currency instead of any artificial thing.

You could for example program your excess energy to always keep you in good health, or to make sure you keep advancing steadily in a healthy and positive way for you, or perhaps you can program your excess energy to attract more money to you, since money is important at this time here on the physical earth. Then have your thoughtform absorb energy from a natural source like the Sun and basically give you more power and energy for free.

You can only absorb a certain amount of energy from the sun at any one time, but having a thoughtform can effectively increase the amount of energy you can take in at any time by quite a lot, since you and that thoughtform can both take in energy from the sun or some other source at the same time, increasing the amount of energy you can take and increasing the amount of power you can have.

Thoughtforms are extensions of yourself. They are what ever you want them to be, but first and foremost they ar ean extension of your will, that can act seperately from you.

For example, you could do a working yourself to increase your heatlth and a working to attract money and also a curse working on someone that wronged you, but doing so many things at once by yourself will diminish the power of each working.

Instead you could focus on one working with your full attention and have two thoughtforms focus all their attention on those two other workings. Those thoughtforms can take in energy passively and as a result you can spread your attention much wider while not loosing any focus on each individual working.

That is why I feel it can be very valuable to have a couple advanced and well made thoughtforms, which are long lasting and future proof, as they will advance with you and grow as you grow and once they are created they require little maintenance. They are basically an extension of your being in a way, they are your creation and can increase your capabilities a lot.

Thoughtforms also arent bound by time or space, so they have little to no restictions in terms of what they can do for you.

There is so much I am still learning about when thoughtforms are concerned, but I found that their potential is enormous and I have a lot of ideas and hypothesis that I am working to test and figure out. So far one of the most bimportant things I found from personal experience is that a solid structure seems very benificial in increasing a thoughtforms power and intelligence, and the more intelligent the thoughtform is the more capable it becomes as it can seek out things to do on it's own (within it's field of expertiese). That in turn means they require even less maintenance.

Currently I am trying to make one of my thoughtforms as autonomous as possible to see how well they can function on their own, while still having her be loyal to me so that she will listen when I need her or ask her something.
 
@voiceofenki interesting, so you could make an army of intelligent thoughtforms that can give you a certain amount of sun energy everyday, that is awesome, it can save you so much time. But I don't understand one thing, why can we just take just a certain amount of energt at a time? Is it a matter of time?
 
@voiceofenki
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I applied my own version of it to my thoughtform a few hours ago and he does indeed feel stronger now. 
Also, my name is written "Shael" and not "Sheal". :D

-Shael
On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 3:58, voiceofenki@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   Sheal, I found that any thoughtform, even ones made purely for destruction benifit greatly by taking in energy from the sun as a core, or base.

Think of it like this: The greatest power comes from the light. Light is power.

My second thoughtform is made for destruction and he does a great job at it. Destruction I found is also very versatile, for example as an experiment, when I was having a mild food poisoning a few weeks back from eating some old meat on accident, I ordered my second thoughtform, made for destruction to destroy any negative energy or weakness that was in my being.

Which he did, instead of healing the illness, he destroyed the illness and it effectively healed me as well.

Normally I would have used my first thoughtform for this, since she is made for healing, but I had her doing something else at the time that was more important for her to do.

Now when I first created that second thoughtform based on destruction, I gave him a simpler form, he was made from black energy and red energy, which I combined with the energies of Saturn and Mars. Those energies I combined with the elements of fire and earth and Ether. I gave him that basic chakra structure and then programmed him.

He was already powerful this way, but I found that he was lacking something, so a few months later I decided to redo his creation, I gave him a core filled with energy of the sun and black sun this time and then bound the energy of saturn, mars and the 3 elements I used to this solid white gold core.

The increase in power was significant, he felt so much stronger.

I have him absorb energy from the sun as well, and bind this energy to the fire element, which can make it very destructive. He still has black energy in his aura too, so he can absorb energy from people I send him after and drain him, this black energy I bound to the earth element and the saturnian energies.


Because he has multiple different energies that are a part of him and that are balanced in a way they do not conflict with each other (by binding them to specific chakra's in his structure, giving the energy a place to settle instead of swirling wildly through his aura or energy body) he is capable of doing different things if I need him to do so and can take energy from multiple sources.

Black energy is basically light in reverse, it is darkness. There is a lot of power one can take from that, but light is where power comes from. Having a strong core of bright light seems to be good for any thoughtform.


If you look at our souls, we have 7 main chakra's and a very complicated system of minor chakra's, connected by meridians, which then are connected to the light body, the soul, the astral body, the physical body and everything is interfaced and balanced perfectly. It's so complicated it's actually difficult to get a full picture of our multidimensional methaphysical being.

The chakra's consist of all the planets energies, and the 4 corners of our soul are bound to the 4 elements, with the center consisting of the Ether. We have many different energies flowing though our beings, which is what makes us so advanced and gives us so much potential power. Of course most of our potential comes from the Kundalini and pur advanced ability to learn to tap into the infinite universal Ether and make use of it, just like the Gods.


I applied a simmilar approach to the creation of my thoughtforms, but of course I am no god and can not recreate the human soul. I did the best I could in making a basic structure reminicent of the human soul, giving my thoughtform a seperate light body (their aura), an astral body and a chakra structure where I could seperate the energies from each other by giving each chakra a specific property of their being.

Fire and water for example, don't mix well. So I bound one chakra to the fire energy I used and one chakra to the water energy I used, this way the thoughtform could make use of both those elemental properties without having these elements clash.

I used Ether to balance out the two elements I used in the creation, since it is neutral and doesn't clash with other energies.


In the case of your thoughtform sheal, you could give it a basic inner structure and let it take energy from Saturn and the sun/black sun. The power it takes from the sun it can use to increase it's overal power, while the power taken from Saturn it can use to destroy targets or things you want it to destroy.

You could even attempt to program it to take the negative saturnian energies from your soul, and fill your soul with powerful energy from the sun and black sun at the same time, instead of trying to have it destroy saturns influence over you.

Saturn is important for us, but perhaps by programming a thoughtform to absorb all the negative saturnian energies from you, leaving the positive influence it has on you alone and then fill itself with energy of the sun to balance out this negative energy so the thoughtform doesn't get damaged or destroyed over time, which it can also fill your soul with at the same time could be very benificial.


I also think it's important when making thoughtforms, that you try to get more energy out of them than you put in them. If you need to let it absorb your excess energy all the time then it won't give you back any energy, you won't get a good return out of the initial energy invested into the creation of the thoughtform.

Energy is wealth in the more advanced societies and in the societies of the Gods. They don't sue corrency, but they use energy. Ones energy equals ones power and ones wealth and status. Here on earth not so much yet, since money is pretty much what dictates how much power someone has, but it is good to start building up your total energy "bank" so you can have more power when the world starts changing and adapting this satanic "economy" where energy is the currency instead of any artificial thing.

You could for example program your excess energy to always keep you in good health, or to make sure you keep advancing steadily in a healthy and positive way for you, or perhaps you can program your excess energy to attract more money to you, since money is important at this time here on the physical earth. Then have your thoughtform absorb energy from a natural source like the Sun and basically give you more power and energy for free.

You can only absorb a certain amount of energy from the sun at any one time, but having a thoughtform can effectively increase the amount of energy you can take in at any time by quite a lot, since you and that thoughtform can both take in energy from the sun or some other source at the same time, increasing the amount of energy you can take and increasing the amount of power you can have.

Thoughtforms are extensions of yourself. They are what ever you want them to be, but first and foremost they ar ean extension of your will, that can act seperately from you.

For example, you could do a working yourself to increase your heatlth and a working to attract money and also a curse working on someone that wronged you, but doing so many things at once by yourself will diminish the power of each working.

Instead you could focus on one working with your full attention and have two thoughtforms focus all their attention on those two other workings. Those thoughtforms can take in energy passively and as a result you can spread your attention much wider while not loosing any focus on each individual working.

That is why I feel it can be very valuable to have a couple advanced and well made thoughtforms, which are long lasting and future proof, as they will advance with you and grow as you grow and once they are created they require little maintenance. They are basically an extension of your being in a way, they are your creation and can increase your capabilities a lot.

Thoughtforms also arent bound by time or space, so they have little to no restictions in terms of what they can do for you.

There is so much I am still learning about when thoughtforms are concerned, but I found that their potential is enormous and I have a lot of ideas and hypothesis that I am working to test and figure out. So far one of the most bimportant things I found from personal experience is that a solid structure seems very benificial in increasing a thoughtforms power and intelligence, and the more intelligent the thoughtform is the more capable it becomes as it can seek out things to do on it's own (within it's field of expertiese). That in turn means they require even less maintenance.

Currently I am trying to make one of my thoughtforms as autonomous as possible to see how well they can function on their own, while still having her be loyal to me so that she will listen when I need her or ask her something.
 
How much energy we can take in at a time depends mostly on how much energy our souls can handle.

Like a battery can only hold a certain amount of charge before it's full, the bigger the battery the more charge it can hold.

As we advance we can take in more energy at a time and also take energy in faster.

Thoughtforms can also hold energy for you, so having an advanced thoughtform can also increase the amount of energy you have at your disposal at any time, because this thoughtform can store power in itself as well, besides the energy you can "store" within yourself.

That is all I understand about it so far. Someone who is more knowlesgeable about that specifically can maybe give a better, more detailed answer.
 
@ed
I think it's a matter of willpower and of how much energy one can handle. 

-Shael
On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 13:37, ed8874@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   @voiceofenki interesting, so you could make an army of intelligent thoughtforms that can give you a certain amount of sun energy everyday, that is awesome, it can save you so much time. But I don't understand one thing, why can we just take just a certain amount of energt at a time? Is it a matter of time?
 
Voice, how well did that work, combining black and gold in the same thoughtform? any drawbacks?
 
It's all good, voiceofenki. I just figured I should point it out. And it definetly was beneficial for me. :) 

-Shael



On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 20:23, voiceofenki@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   My apologies Shael, for misspelling your name.

I'm glad my knowledge was benificial for you brother.
 
No drawbacks at all, but that is because of how I balanced and seperated the energy in the thoughtform.

The core of the thoughtform is white gold, while part of it's aura is black and red.

Like how we can evoke black energy during ritual, while not harming our selves or our power, despite the fact that the core of our power lies in the golden energy of the Solar chakra and the Shushumna.

By separating the energy it is able to have both the benifits of the White gold light and the unique properties of Black and Red energy, which assist it's destructive properties.

That black energy is bound the the Earth element and the energy of Saturn, while the Red energy is bound to the Fire element and the energy of Mars.

So long as the black and gold do not mix in a harmful way that diminishes either of them, these energies can be in the same thoughtform as far as I have found, so long as you keep them seperated and balanced well.

In the section on the JoS about thoughtforms, there is a part where it is said that you can use multiple colors, and when using colors that could mix you could have one of the colors as the primary color of the thoughtforms aura and then have a secondary or even tertiary color as a dust throughout or around it's aura.

I build upon that idea when I made my thoughtforms and it seems to work well, in my experience at least.

I encourage you to see for yourself though, since not everything that works for one person will work for yourself as well.

If you do experiment, maybe share your findings with us. If more people who are interested in this and have the time to spare experiment with this sort of magick, we can find out better ways to use and create thoughtforms much faster.

There isn't much information on this available, most of what I am doing with thoughtforms is partially with my GD's guidance and partially by following my intuition and of course just experimentation.
 
@voiceofenki, Could you please elaborate more on the process of creating thoughtforms? Do you recommend someone creating it whose astray senses aren't opened yet?
 

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