End of arguement against Transgender surgeries

[darkmonkey666]

This should be the end of arguement forever on this. I know no one should tell someone what to do with their bodies but can you with a straight face as a Satanist tell me you want to do this after realizing what I am about to say.

Look at the doctors who do this kind of thing. Can you tell me with a straight face they are not Jews. Can you find very many at all that are gentiles. Do this as i say. 

Can you tell me with a straight face the Doctor you want to go to is not a Jew? If so can you say with a straight face that very many people around that doctor at all are gentiles? What about the people who own the practice? 

Are you really going to let a Jew do something with your genitals in surgery that will alter your life for ever and trust that the outcome will be ok or even benificial?  

Can you stand the thought of doing this? 

Ok about horomones and any other therapies related to this? 

Are you really going to let a Jew prescribe you all kinds of drugs some that may permanently alter you? 

Are you going to actually take them and trust that the outcome will be ok or even benificial? 

This should be the end of this arguement right here for now and forever. 

Next up the ideologies pushed on this with the LGBT movement.

Can you say any of the ones who created this are gentile with a straight face what about those who run the groups related to this.

What about the ones that run the group you might want to go to or listen. If they are gentile who came up with this and are they not surrounded by Jews.

Are you going to listen to all this stuff and trust that the outcome will be ok or even benificial? 

Are you going to trust that your not being brainwashed.

Ok you get my point.

Nothing wrong with people dressing of another gender or expression of the self in any way they want.

But this other stuff you really have to listen too.

We need to take this whole LGBT thing and reclaim it turn it gentile keep the positive changes about freedom of expression and maybe pushing the boundaries which is inline with Aquarius and Uranus in Taurus but throw out all the Jew stuff and stuff that is harmful.

For one I did think gender roles were oppressive for a long time. But the Jew hijacked this and is now pushing it for an agenda.

Hopefully it will fail and just balance out society removing what we don't want rigid gender roles and conformity and fail at this marxist and ideological subversion stuff. There needs to be a backlash against the Jews and all form of degeneracy and a reclaiming of the ideals of freedom and Aquarius.

 

[luis]

If just for living your life need to completely change everything with surgery and use hormones to look the opposite to when you were born then it's not natural, how difficult is to understand? This is a mental illness (science says it is) and the solution modern medicine gave to this is to take hormones and do surgeries...this is because doctors don't know how to really heal it. They basically gave up. Then there are the jews who push for all of this insanity. Meditations will help you to heal this, obviously, it takes time, and it's not something simple at all, you will not stop to be trans but you will heal the gender dysphoria and keep your natural body.

 

[Shadowcat]

Then they should just go to a Gentile doctor instead. As you said yourself, it's not a good idea to rely on a Jew for something so impactful.

Are the Gentile doctors who partake in these "treatments" brainwashed? Maybe. But as you said yourself, it's still up to these people to decide for themselves what they do with their body. They can at least try to go about it as responsibly as possible by staying clear from shady groups and choosing Gentile doctors.

There's plenty of other reasons why people shouldn't do this kind of thing. There's no need to rely on a flimsy argument like this that assumes the circumstances are a specific way, and act like it triumphs all other arguments. That just makes most of the people you're trying to address assume you don't know what you're talking about if they check your claims and notice they're incorrect.
Not to mention, I think there's various problems with it even if the doctor isn't a Jew, and these problems should properly be taken into consideration.

Like you asked, I had a look at the doctors my country who deal with patients like that (I found a page for it on a big hospital's website, with pictures of about 50 of the doctors involved). 70% of them clearly looks like Gentiles, and the remaining 30% looks off somehow (could potentially be a hybrid Jew), with some of them just having a weird look in their eyes, attached earlobes, or general ugliness (although a few were by choice like having an unsightly haircut, but it takes a deranged mentality to want to look like that anyway so I still count them as "potentially Jewwy"). And there was one with a particularly suspicious nose.
Jewish genetics are fortunately rare where I live. Even among doctors who are so focused on the material, the majority is still Gentiles. Maybe it's different in other places though.

I have attached earlobes from my moms side of the family and nobody is jewish or had otherwise jewish features. Ive also seen some blacks with attached earlobes.

 

[13th_Wolf]

Whenever my attention comes to this I always start thinking about that guy out of Silence of the Lambs, Buffalo bill. Very odd stuff and it won't stop being odd I think.

People have every right to do it just keep your bits away from me and never let me know about it ever, ta :lol:

 

[Hp. Hoodedcobra666]

This is self mutilation and one would never do this if they were in their right mind.

This is butchery.

 

[Wayofthegods]

This is self mutilation and one would never do this if they were in their right mind.

This is butchery.

That makes sense to me.

There is nothing wrong with feminine men or masculine women. This has always been a thing. I mean look at the Gods. Their true forms are not exactly viking.

But I have never understood chopping your dick off. The past clergy supported this, but never gave any reasonable explanation. So it hung around for years.

 

[Shadowcat]

This is self mutilation and one would never do this if they were in their right mind.

This is butchery.

I have heard of many who did it later regretted it and ended up committing suicide.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Then they should just go to a Gentile doctor instead. As you said yourself, it's not a good idea to rely on a Jew for something so impactful.

Are the Gentile doctors who partake in these "treatments" brainwashed? Maybe. But as you said yourself, it's still up to these people to decide for themselves what they do with their body. They can at least try to go about it as responsibly as possible by staying clear from shady groups and choosing Gentile doctors.

There's plenty of other reasons why people shouldn't do this kind of thing. There's no need to rely on a flimsy argument like this that assumes the circumstances are a specific way, and act like it triumphs all other arguments. That just makes most of the people you're trying to address assume you don't know what you're talking about if they check your claims and notice they're incorrect.
Not to mention, I think there's various problems with it even if the doctor isn't a Jew, and these problems should properly be taken into consideration.

Like you asked, I had a look at the doctors my country who deal with patients like that (I found a page for it on a big hospital's website, with pictures of about 50 of the doctors involved). 70% of them clearly looks like Gentiles, and the remaining 30% looks off somehow (could potentially be a hybrid Jew), with some of them just having a weird look in their eyes, attached earlobes, or general ugliness (although a few were by choice like having an unsightly haircut, but it takes a deranged mentality to want to look like that anyway so I still count them as "potentially Jewwy"). And there was one with a particularly suspicious nose.
Jewish genetics are fortunately rare where I live. Even among doctors who are so focused on the material, the majority is still Gentiles. Maybe it's different in other places though.

Ok i know about the other arguements and stuff with this. I know there are plenty of other things wrong or that could go wrong here but I am directing this post towards people that don't listen to them when presented at all and just blindly argue in favor of this. For a Satanist this arguement should be important at least one that listens and is serious. I am not letting a Jew touch me what about you. Not saying anything about the Psychological aspect of this or that Trans doesn't exist at all. This has been going on even back in the 30s and 40s and 1800s etc it seems to be something real. All this stuff about mutilation of the body and hormones and stuff and these strange ideologies behind this they push all that stuff is completely new and sounds like something someone made up on the spot at some point and decided to push forward in society.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Then they should just go to a Gentile doctor instead. As you said yourself, it's not a good idea to rely on a Jew for something so impactful.

Are the Gentile doctors who partake in these "treatments" brainwashed? Maybe. But as you said yourself, it's still up to these people to decide for themselves what they do with their body. They can at least try to go about it as responsibly as possible by staying clear from shady groups and choosing Gentile doctors.

There's plenty of other reasons why people shouldn't do this kind of thing. There's no need to rely on a flimsy argument like this that assumes the circumstances are a specific way, and act like it triumphs all other arguments. That just makes most of the people you're trying to address assume you don't know what you're talking about if they check your claims and notice they're incorrect.
Not to mention, I think there's various problems with it even if the doctor isn't a Jew, and these problems should properly be taken into consideration.

Like you asked, I had a look at the doctors my country who deal with patients like that (I found a page for it on a big hospital's website, with pictures of about 50 of the doctors involved). 70% of them clearly looks like Gentiles, and the remaining 30% looks off somehow (could potentially be a hybrid Jew), with some of them just having a weird look in their eyes, attached earlobes, or general ugliness (although a few were by choice like having an unsightly haircut, but it takes a deranged mentality to want to look like that anyway so I still count them as "potentially Jewwy"). And there was one with a particularly suspicious nose.
Jewish genetics are fortunately rare where I live. Even among doctors who are so focused on the material, the majority is still Gentiles. Maybe it's different in other places though.

Ok i know about the other arguements and stuff with this. I know there are plenty of other things wrong or that could go wrong here but I am directing this post towards people that don't listen to them when presented at all and just blindly argue in favor of this. For a Satanist this arguement should be important at least one that listens and is serious. I am not letting a Jew touch me what about you. Not saying anything about the Psychological aspect of this or that Trans doesn't exist at all. This has been going on even back in the 30s and 40s and 1800s etc it seems to be something real. All this stuff about mutilation of the body and hormones and stuff and these strange ideologies behind this they push all that stuff is completely new and sounds like something someone made up on the spot at some point and decided to push forward in society.

I understand why you so strongly wish to stop them, but your argument seems to be factually incorrect, at least in my country. Most doctors in my country, even the ones specialising in psychiatry, endocrinology and that kind of surgery, are clearly Gentiles based on their names and photographs.
I haven't looked into the medical staff responsible for these topics in other countries though, so perhaps your argument holds some weight in other parts of the world? It's just that when I tried to confirm it I found the opposite of what you claimed.
I guess if people don't check your claim and just assume what you're saying is true, then maybe it'll make the people you're addressing hesitate some more at least, in which case you've accomplished your goal, so I suppose I see why you would make these claims regardless. But I think generally it's best to use arguments that are grounded in facts and can be confirmed as that makes them more convincing, and I think truthfulness is valuable. But it doesn't seem like you're trying to deceive, so I'm a bit confused as to where you're coming from.

Correction I dont strongly want to stop anyone I just want people to think a lot more I am just making people aware of this I personally think its dangerous and possibly harmful to spirituality. It is a huge decision one that could mess up someone's life. It should not be taken lightly. I am a believer that people are born the gender they are. Not even sure third sex people can be another gender in other lives. I was a guy in all my lives that I remember. I am third sex. I am a believer that not everyone fits the gender expression however this does not mean someone is the other gender or can be. I am a believer that people should try to be themselves and comfortable in the body nature made them with. Maybe advanced magick could change it this might be a far better way to go if possible. I am not saying dont do it I am saying what we have now is pure jew and I dont think its good at all. I think these surgeries are quite dangerous.

Ok for the sake of arguement these people are all gentiles which I am not sure possible. But who came up with the ideas and procedures and all that.

Surly not a gentile.

 

[Shadowcat]

This is self mutilation and one would never do this if they were in their right mind.

This is butchery.

That makes sense to me.

There is nothing wrong with feminine men or masculine women. This has always been a thing. I mean look at the Gods. Their true forms are not exactly viking.

But I have never understood chopping your dick off. The past clergy supported this, but never gave any reasonable explanation. So it hung around for years.

I actually in general had always been attracted to more feminine men as a result of having more solar or masculine qualities so me and my ex had this dynamic for a long time, although he balanced out abit later which i found even better. He actually had a really heavy transgender phase and was at this point for awhile, even at the " i want to chop it off part." luckily he got himself out of that. he would go from ups and downs in moodswings to taking hormones and then all of a sudden not. very caring and nuturing over all but also could be quite unstable.

He liked to crossdress..alot. loved shopping more than me lmao.

He found out he was Bi after cheating on me with 2 other guys. Hey, you love who you love, but cheating is cheating. Cried his eyes out when i packed.

I think the trouble with this is, and i noticed this with him as well, people who dont conform to gender norms ie more masculine women or more feminine men are bashed into thinking they have to fit their gender stereotype, so then they start thinking they are in the wrong body. It was a combination of this and trauma he endured as a child. his father was also a dirtbag and left him alone with a very overbearing and emotionally burdensome mother.

Me growing up the way i did, from always getting picked on from being a tomboy and wearing boys cloths (later on that stopped, save for when i was in uniform or working in the shop), to playing on the school football team, Enlisting in the national guard for 6 years, to then becoming a welder and almost always having nothing but male friends since i was a kid, nah..i never thought i was a boy. In fact. Always felt comfortable with my body and who i was.

Only thing that bothered me at times was especially when i got older was how i seemed to walk as a shadow between two worlds especially socially...didn't identify too much with other women, but guys would take it the wrong way if you just wanted to be friends :roll:

Hilariously enough, later on in life i discovered that i was actually also extremely feminine. I feel like ive got fire and water at the same time and im at a point where im not sure which should dominate or if one should at all haha. at one time i thought i was all fire...these days not so sure.

my ex was definately mostly water. i started noticing a pattern that i am very attracted to water people.

 

[Wayofthegods]

This is self mutilation and one would never do this if they were in their right mind.

This is butchery.

That makes sense to me.

There is nothing wrong with feminine men or masculine women. This has always been a thing. I mean look at the Gods. Their true forms are not exactly viking.

But I have never understood chopping your dick off. The past clergy supported this, but never gave any reasonable explanation. So it hung around for years.

I actually in general had always been attracted to more feminine men as a result of having more solar or masculine qualities so me and my ex had this dynamic for a long time, although he balanced out abit later which i found even better. He actually had a really heavy transgender phase and was at this point for awhile, even at the " i want to chop it off part." luckily he got himself out of that. he would go from ups and downs in moodswings to taking hormones and then all of a sudden not. very caring and nuturing over all but also could be quite unstable.

He liked to crossdress..alot. loved shopping more than me lmao.

He found out he was Bi after cheating on me with 2 other guys. Hey, you love who you love, but cheating is cheating. Cried his eyes out when i packed.

I think the trouble with this is, and i noticed this with him as well, people who dont conform to gender norms ie more masculine women or more feminine men are bashed into thinking they have to fit their gender stereotype, so then they start thinking they are in the wrong body. It was a combination of this and trauma he endured as a child. his father was also a dirtbag and left him alone with a very overbearing and emotionally burdensome mother.

Me growing up the way i did, from always getting picked on from being a tomboy and wearing boys cloths (later on that stopped, save for when i was in uniform or working in the shop), to playing on the school football team, Enlisting in the national guard for 6 years, to then becoming a welder and almost always having nothing but male friends since i was a kid, nah..i never thought i was a boy. In fact. Always felt comfortable with my body and who i was.

Only thing that bothered me at times was especially when i got older was how i seemed to walk as a shadow between two worlds especially socially...didn't identify too much with other women, but guys would take it the wrong way if you just wanted to be friends :roll:

Hilariously enough, later on in life i discovered that i was actually also extremely feminine. I feel like ive got fire and water at the same time and im at a point where im not sure which should dominate or if one should at all haha. at one time i thought i was all fire...these days not so sure.

my ex was definately mostly water. i started noticing a pattern that i am very attracted to water people.

Tom boys are hot. I like masculine women, as long as it's not butch. Strong willed, fearless women are such a turn on.

It's strange because in some ways I'm masculine, in some I'm feminine. I walk, talk and act masculine, but I'm really sensitive on the inside.

Like I dont act feminine in the body, it mostly shows in my eyes. Unless I block it from showing.

 

[Blackdragon666]

If you feel the need to change your gender, why not try a working to free your soul? Sounds like some serious hang ups regarding your gender to me. Maybe someone made you feel bad for being male/female in a past lifetime to where you carry it and strongly don't want to associate with your natural gender in future lifetimes?

 

[Shadowcat]

That makes sense to me.

There is nothing wrong with feminine men or masculine women. This has always been a thing. I mean look at the Gods. Their true forms are not exactly viking.

But I have never understood chopping your dick off. The past clergy supported this, but never gave any reasonable explanation. So it hung around for years.

I actually in general had always been attracted to more feminine men as a result of having more solar or masculine qualities so me and my ex had this dynamic for a long time, although he balanced out abit later which i found even better. He actually had a really heavy transgender phase and was at this point for awhile, even at the " i want to chop it off part." luckily he got himself out of that. he would go from ups and downs in moodswings to taking hormones and then all of a sudden not. very caring and nuturing over all but also could be quite unstable.

He liked to crossdress..alot. loved shopping more than me lmao.

He found out he was Bi after cheating on me with 2 other guys. Hey, you love who you love, but cheating is cheating. Cried his eyes out when i packed.

I think the trouble with this is, and i noticed this with him as well, people who dont conform to gender norms ie more masculine women or more feminine men are bashed into thinking they have to fit their gender stereotype, so then they start thinking they are in the wrong body. It was a combination of this and trauma he endured as a child. his father was also a dirtbag and left him alone with a very overbearing and emotionally burdensome mother.

Me growing up the way i did, from always getting picked on from being a tomboy and wearing boys cloths (later on that stopped, save for when i was in uniform or working in the shop), to playing on the school football team, Enlisting in the national guard for 6 years, to then becoming a welder and almost always having nothing but male friends since i was a kid, nah..i never thought i was a boy. In fact. Always felt comfortable with my body and who i was.

Only thing that bothered me at times was especially when i got older was how i seemed to walk as a shadow between two worlds especially socially...didn't identify too much with other women, but guys would take it the wrong way if you just wanted to be friends :roll:

Hilariously enough, later on in life i discovered that i was actually also extremely feminine. I feel like ive got fire and water at the same time and im at a point where im not sure which should dominate or if one should at all haha. at one time i thought i was all fire...these days not so sure.

my ex was definately mostly water. i started noticing a pattern that i am very attracted to water people.

Tom boys are hot. I like masculine women, as long as it's not butch. Strong willed, fearless women are such a turn on.

It's strange because in some ways I'm masculine, in some I'm feminine. I walk, talk and act masculine, but I'm really sensitive on the inside.

Like I dont act feminine in the body, it mostly shows in my eyes. Unless I block it from showing.

. I think the only really overt masculine thing about me physically is my voice and broad shoulders xD. other than that despite having a dirty job i pick at myself all the time to not look like crap x.x. its funny cus when i was younger i didnt give a shit about make up or anything...then later on started to like it. I can have both masculine and feminine behaviors. romantically i am attracted to both masculine and feminine energy yet have always strictly been attracted to men. Ill never understand those psycho bitches that will friendzone the nice guy thats loyal and sweet and go for the jerk that would treat them like crap..it happes so often. i think they have a screw loose lmao.


Strong and fearless? sometimes too firery even! hahaha..yet extremely protective and nurturing.

 

[darkmonkey666]

Well personally my girlfriend has Mars in Aries she is more masculine than me but i kind of like it it makes a close to exact opposition by degree to my Mars in Libra. So we are the style we are attracted too but argue sometimes lol. I myself kind of like more masuline women so its not a problem in my book.

What is feminine about me more so is I am emotional and moody more so than most guys and not really a fighter that much I try to avoid direct phyical conflict as much as possible as it just unsettles me even being around violence of some kind i am not even involved in i dont like that much (it did happen a couple times i have seen fights before) I dont however hesitate to deal with the issues using black magick or intellect or some more indirect route etc if i feel someone has wronged me. So its not like I am a total pushover. I also like emotional music and people say my voice is kind of feminine in some way not understanding that at all. I am more into the feminine side with energy and am completely right brained pretty much have some problems with understanding some left brained things.


That is what i mean by feminine.

But what I dont want to do is change my gender to female i think that is really dumb when I can accept and love myself for who I am. I dont really have a thing where I wear all feminine clothes either or try to identify as that. Sometimes I will do it just cause it feels rebel or something but no I don't see myself as transgender. Just bisexual feminine more caring about spiritual connection and intellectual connection than just what the body or gender is in a partner. I could be attracted to someone if they were my type not really caring much what they look like.


This is what i mean by all this. This is why i am not so sure about this transgender thing whether its a hang up the enemy created or something legit.

 

[darkmonkey666]

My point is if the situation had been right and I was with the right people I could have been eaisly convinced into this thing like a lot of other people who don't fit in their gender. Yes some people want to express themselves differently or in the opposite way of what their gender normally does and that is fine and did exist in the ancient times.

What didn't was all this stuff we see today as transgender.

This is why i think the enemy seriously is fucking over people with this.

 

[RYanK]

My point is if the situation had been right and I was with the right people I could have been eaisly convinced into this thing like a lot of other people who don't fit in their gender. Yes some people want to express themselves differently or in the opposite way of what their gender normally does and that is fine and did exist in the ancient times.

What didn't was all this stuff we see today as transgender.

This is why i think the enemy seriously is fucking over people with this.

Transgender individuals has been there for a long time as well, is not something that emerged out of nowhere. You are confusing transtrender with transgender. Transgender individuals do not decide to one day "hate themselves and want to be another gender" they are born this way, transitioning (Hormones, surgeries if desired) is the best that can happen to the mental/psychological/emotional and to the point spiritually to a transgender individual.

However transtrenders are doing it for the sake of wanting to escape their own problems(Psychologically/mentally/emotionally) and believing that "becoming the opposite gender" will solve all of their traumas, problems and more, when in fact this is NOT TRUE.

Hormones is not a dress you can put on, play the character and whenever you want you can wear it off, its a serious issue and I fucking blame Tumblr for it (In fact the one who started all this shit was a cisgender woman in disguise of a transgender woman. Who know if it was a jewess ugh!!)

This is also why detransitioners are so rampant today, and personally I have noticed the same pattern on all detransitioners which I had grew a stance to hate them deeply, I do not tolerate them anymore.

I am not saying medical malpractice exist, because it does, those negligent individuals should be put in jail for their crimes against an individual.