Are all saturn aspects bad ?!

[Alexander666]

Hello
Are all saturn aspects to another houses and planets malefic.???
Or some of them are benefic like saturn trine/sexstile to mars
Or to 10th house ??

 

[Power of Justice [JG]]

I would argue that many Saturn aspects are actually positive. Saturn is extremely necessary to ground people in reality. When Saturn is lacking, there are a lot of issues with excess and people being unrestricted in unhealthy ways.

 

[Henu the Great]

No, Saturn as a whole represents a very important part among others. However, negative karmic imprints should be removed regardless, and this is something that not only applies to Saturn.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Saturn=bad is a very surface level, simple understanding of the planet.

Saturn is the most important planet. Binding is an important skill to avoid slavery.

Let’s use diet for an example. You either bind yourself to control your eating habits or you let them bind you.

Enslave or be enslaved. The cycles and astral influences know no mercy. You either bind and control the energies within you to your benefit or be passive and allow them to drift you to whatever deterministic end they set you for.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Saturn=bad is a very surface level, simple understanding of the planet.

Saturn is the most important planet. Binding is an important skill to avoid slavery.

Let’s use diet for an example. You either bind yourself to control your eating habits or you let them bind you.

Enslave or be enslaved. The cycles and astral influences know no mercy. You either bind and control the energies within you to your benefit or be passive and allow them to drift you to whatever deterministic end they set you for.

This is why knowing your natal chart is extremely important. It’s a cheat code on how you and your life are affected.

Also study the concept of the Solar Masculine by Julius Evola. It’ll change how you look into things for the better.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Saturn=bad is a very surface level, simple understanding of the planet.

Saturn is the most important planet. Binding is an important skill to avoid slavery.

Let’s use diet for an example. You either bind yourself to control your eating habits or you let them bind you.

Enslave or be enslaved. The cycles and astral influences know no mercy. You either bind and control the energies within you to your benefit or be passive and allow them to drift you to whatever deterministic end they set you for.

A warning, don’t be TOO restrictive. That’ll backfire.

 

[Alexander666]

@Power of Justice [JG] @Henu the Great guys can you tell specifically which kind of saturn aspects are benefic and which are malefic?? This information is very useful for all of us.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

@Power of Justice [JG] @Henu the Great guys can you tell specifically which kind of saturn aspects are benefic and which are malefic?? This information is very useful for all of us.

HP HC has written multiple sermons on the topic, importance, and benefits of Saturn.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

@Power of Justice [JG] @Henu the Great guys can you tell specifically which kind of saturn aspects are benefic and which are malefic?? This information is very useful for all of us.

Hps Maxine has written on how lack of Saturn aspects or a weak Saturn in a chart can lead to insanity if supported by other aspects.

 

[Henu the Great]

@Power of Justice [JG] @Henu the Great guys can you tell specifically which kind of saturn aspects are benefic and which are malefic?? This information is very useful for all of us.

It is an oversimplification to simply look at aspects and make notes like "This is good", "this is bad" and so on. While it is true that aspects can look something like that, or something else by itself, we must remember that whenever we engage and stay consistent in our work toward the godhead, we are 'automatically' removing negative karmic seeds and creating a better outcome with whatever one has at their disposal. For example, when a person does yoga asanas if not every day, then at least multiple times a week while also taking care of cleaning meditations we can be sure that under the guidance of Gods aspects are something not to stress over, but instead something that we can further refine and make the best possible version of ourselves.

 

[Mint666]

This is why knowing your natal chart is extremely important. It’s a cheat code on how you and your life are affected.

Also study the concept of the Solar Masculine by Julius Evola. It’ll change how you look into things for the better.

Where do I go to learn astrology? What's a vetted source that covers the fundamental and rudimentary info that isn't on here?

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Where do I go to learn astrology? What's a vetted source that covers the fundamental and rudimentary info that isn't on here?

josastro.com

 

[Mint666]

josastro.com

jos-astro.com only provides tools for already learned astrologers

where did you learn what you know in regards to interpreting your own chart?

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

jos-astro.com only provides tools for already learned astrologers

where did you learn what you know in regards to interpreting your own chart?

Have you finished everything here?: https://joswiki.org/index.php/Azazel's_Astrology_for_Satanists#Astrology_Index

 

[Mint666]

Have you finished everything here?: https://joswiki.org/index.php/Azazel's_Astrology_for_Satanists#Astrology_Index

Yeah.
Some of the descriptions about my placements are not true and I don't know enough to say what other part of my chart offsets that.

Going through it again, there's some language I don't understand.
"Aspects from Saturn to the other planets, and the house and sign Saturn is in reveal where we will experience problems"

Aspects from Saturn to the other planets - what does that mean? When one of your planets is in a Saturnian sign?

If my Saturn is in one of the same signs as another planet what does that mean? Like if my Saturn and Mars both have Aquarius. That's not my chart, obviously, but what do I learn from something like that?

And then the transit table on a natal chart. What do all the types of transits mean? I still don't know how to make sense of it.

I also wish I understood better the fundamental role of each Planet and House in a chart. The descriptions on the site are very brief. Maybe it's an experience issue.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Yeah.
Some of the descriptions about my placements are not true and I don't know enough to say what other part of my chart offsets that.

Going through it again, there's some language I don't understand.
"Aspects from Saturn to the other planets, and the house and sign Saturn is in reveal where we will experience problems"

Aspects from Saturn to the other planets - what does that mean? When one of your planets is in a Saturnian sign?

If my Saturn is in one of the same signs as another planet what does that mean? Like if my Saturn and Mars both have Aquarius. That's not my chart, obviously, but what do I learn from something like that?

And then the transit table on a natal chart. What do all the types of transits mean? I still don't know how to make sense of it.

I also wish I understood better the fundamental role of each Planet and House in a chart. The descriptions on the site are very brief. Maybe it's an experience issue.

The descriptions are generalized, but that doesn't mean they are "not true". It is more like HPS Maxine, or other authors, are trying to describe one manifestation of that energy, out of many possibilities. A better way to understand their application to yourself would be to first understand the energetic theme of the example manifestation given, then consider its "analogue" in your own life.

However, as you describe, parts of your chart can also offset, or maybe "hide" other areas of your chart. It may be that the energies have not manifested in certain forms yet, compared to popular examples, or even that you may be unaware that it is even occurring.

"Aspects from Saturn to the other planets - what does that mean?"

Aspects refer to the connections between planets within your chart. So if you look at the chart and see lines between planets, or you look at the table and see a symbol connecting the planets, such as a trine, opposition, sextile, etc, that is an aspect. The energies are connecting and acting in a certain manner with one another.

If there is a natal aspect of Saturn to the Sun, for example, this can cause the person to feel disciplined in their self-expressions, or feel that they can or should use their self-expressions for career purposes. They may feel a sense of value in being disciplined, and so on. A less harmonious expression can be feeling like their joy in life is restricted.

Two planets can share a sign or house, but not have any aspects. This means they are following a similar expression, but they are not actually influencing one another directly. It's like if you had two people on the same team, but they are not necessarily talking or coordinating, just to give a simple example.

The transits are the influence of the actual planets on your natal planets. Your natal planets are just names for representations of that energy in your soul; it is not like you have a chunk of the planet of Jupiter floating in you. However, the planet of Jupiter does exist in real life, and its energy has influence. It influences your soul in various ways, including in very direct ways during such transits.

If Jupiter transits your own Sun, this means its energies are impacting your soul, and more directly, the parts of you which pertain to your solar chakra, vitality, authority, etc. An example manifestation could be that it "expands" your authority, relative to the sign Jupiter is currently in. Maybe you see a new opportunity to gain power, or something.

As far as learning more, I would suggest reading online and comparing multiple sources. Look for professional astrologers who appear diligent. Some websites will have atrocious interpretations, so you have to use your intuition a bit. Be cautious of anything that appears to be marketed for instagram appeal, for example.

 

[Mint666]

The descriptions are generalized, but that doesn't mean they are "not true". It is more like HPS Maxine, or other authors, are trying to describe one manifestation of that energy, out of many possibilities. A better way to understand their application to yourself would be to first understand the energetic theme of the example manifestation given, then consider its "analogue" in your own life.

However, as you describe, parts of your chart can also offset, or maybe "hide" other areas of your chart. It may be that the energies have not manifested in certain forms yet, compared to popular examples, or even that you may be unaware that it is even occurring.

"Aspects from Saturn to the other planets - what does that mean?"

Aspects refer to the connections between planets within your chart. So if you look at the chart and see lines between planets, or you look at the table and see a symbol connecting the planets, such as a trine, opposition, sextile, etc, that is an aspect. The energies are connecting and acting in a certain manner with one another.

If there is a natal aspect of Saturn to the Sun, for example, this can cause the person to feel disciplined in their self-expressions, or feel that they can or should use their self-expressions for career purposes. They may feel a sense of value in being disciplined, and so on. A less harmonious expression can be feeling like their joy in life is restricted.

Two planets can share a sign or house, but not have any aspects. This means they are following a similar expression, but they are not actually influencing one another directly. It's like if you had two people on the same team, but they are not necessarily talking or coordinating, just to give a simple example.

The transits are the influence of the actual planets on your natal planets. Your natal planets are just names for representations of that energy in your soul; it is not like you have a chunk of the planet of Jupiter floating in you. However, the planet of Jupiter does exist in real life, and its energy has influence. It influences your soul in various ways, including in very direct ways during such transits.

If Jupiter transits your own Sun, this means its energies are impacting your soul, and more directly, the parts of you which pertain to your solar chakra, vitality, authority, etc. An example manifestation could be that it "expands" your authority, relative to the sign Jupiter is currently in. Maybe you see a new opportunity to gain power, or something.

As far as learning more, I would suggest reading online and comparing multiple sources. Look for professional astrologers who appear diligent. Some websites will have atrocious interpretations, so you have to use your intuition a bit. Be cautious of anything that appears to be marketed for instagram appeal, for example.

Thank you. That was helpful.