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Hp. Hoodedcobra666

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Every so often, there are messages in my e-mail about "external communities". In this topic I will very briefly explain why this is both needless and rather hypocritical at the same time.

Normally, these arrive from randoms who suddenly want to create communities and speak of grandiose statements about them. What we have here is the following:

1. People who never done anything for the actual central community, wanting to create communities for what they claim is "grand purposes" and "mission of the Gods".
2. They deny all the above is already happening here directly, never laid a hand for it. [incompetence, laziness, rampant egoism and denial].
3. Proceeding to create these, these fail, oftentimes miserably [taking others down with them] since they have no knowledge of what it truly means to build alongside the Gods and the central community.
4. This wastes years, time and energy and other resources from the Gods and people participating in these, to likely feed the ego of clearly incapable and lazy people leading them.
5. Cycle continues based on ego, ie, certain people wanting certain privileges and elevations they never earned in front of the Gods or the actual community.
6. These people need to hide and try to form other things; which can be of either totally misguiding nature, or dubious in general.
7. If one has a lot to give and do, it's best to do this for the maximum amount of people possible, not just pretend they are some unknown guru somewhere and develop self delusion around this [harmful to the individuals doing this]

Those who have nothing to hide and those who have serious intents to give, they can give and help in the largest community with:

1. Maximum impact on the growth of others.
2. Maximum self growth [larger problems = larger empowerment for those who embark it]
3. Larger attention by the Gods [the Gods take care of the central community of the ToZ]
4. They can learn from others who actually have done these things.
5. One can become a great or historical personality through this, not hidden in a den.

Yet as the above requires actual time investment and not empty words or to appear in front of only lesser people or randoms, this is something that requires effort. This effort cannot be circumvented. If one says they want a strong standing with the Gods, they must engage the core work of the Gods.

Given the above, if we are to presuppose that claims about good intents are there: prove them here, on the central and truly ordained community by the Gods. The help one can give here, extends so much in magnitude, that nothing compares.

If they are not, in which cases, even the creators of these are not aware of what I write here, themselves too. You need time and effort to understand this - they cannot understand it due to lack of this.

Normally how the Gods respond to this is by either not allowing progression, or merely, bringing these people back here. Since these people who want to help the Gods, they can help here directly both Gods and their fellows. To take the time wasting route is a time and energy waste for everyone involved; the Gods don't entertain wasted energy for misplaced understanding.

However as primarily the people behind of these things have self serving interests of a lower emotional nature [ie, not spiritually advanced at all or in other ways] or they are young and reckless [don't know how things work, they estimate and "dream" only], or they need validation [even though they would receive a lot more from here] they probably don't resort in doing the right thing always. The smart people do however.

The ego-loop does not want true development and wants a fair amount of years of themselves and others wasted into nothingness.

The enemy writes in their bible: "Let the house of Satan be divided upon itself, so it doth fall". Those who participated in anyway in the above, are sunk in all levels by the Gods. We have seen this here over the years. No matter what is stated about this - the outcome of this is either division and failure, put on the context of an incapable ego, three things the Gods hate severely.

The above can be highly enraging to the Gods and I tell you frankly after having observed tens of these not only fall apart, but the people in them, receiving a large hand by the Gods in their face.

-High Priest Hooded Cobra 666
 
"external communities"

What if someone taking care of the central community (ToZ) also wanted to try to help other sections of ToZ besides that of his race, always giving proprity to his racial people, could he still try to do so? :D
 
What if someone taking care of the central community (ToZ) also wanted to try to help other sections of ToZ besides that of his race, always giving proprity to his racial people, could he still try to do so? :D

That's internal not external. There is no limit to what people can do internally here.
 
What if someone taking care of the central community (ToZ) also wanted to try to help other sections of ToZ besides that of his race, always giving proprity to his racial people, could he still try to do so? :D
Spiritual Satanism is not designed for White people solely if that is what you suggested. The knowledge is there for people of all races to use and advance with, never was here any "priority" on racial grounds. All people had equal access to the same information and from there multiple members of different races have contributed with research and further knowledge on native past pagan cultures for example.
 
Spiritual Satanism is not designed for White people solely if that is what you suggested

No, I meant that because I was white I should give priority to white people. And I was indirectly asking permission from HP HoodedCobra666 to take care of non-whites as well, after I finished taking care of my peoples. :D
 
No, I meant that because I was white I should give priority to white people. And I was indirectly asking permission from HP HoodedCobra666 to take care of non-whites as well, after I finished taking care of my peoples. :D
There are people here from every part of the world. We work together. It is the same information applying to all people.
 
Every so often, there are messages in my e-mail about "external communities". In this topic I will very briefly explain why this is both needless and rather hypocritical at the same time.

Normally, these arrive from randoms who suddenly want to create communities and speak of grandiose statements about them. What we have here is the following:

1. People who never done anything for the actual central community, wanting to create communities for what they claim is "grand purposes" and "mission of the Gods".
2. They deny all the above is already happening here directly, never laid a hand for it. [incompetence, laziness, rampant egoism and denial].
3. Proceeding to create these, these fail, oftentimes miserably [taking others down with them] since they have no knowledge of what it truly means to build alongside the Gods and the central community.
4. This wastes years, time and energy and other resources from the Gods and people participating in these, to likely feed the ego of clearly incapable and lazy people leading them.
5. Cycle continues based on ego, ie, certain people wanting certain privileges and elevations they never earned in front of the Gods or the actual community.
6. These people need to hide and try to form other things; which can be of either totally misguiding nature, or dubious in general.
7. If one has a lot to give and do, it's best to do this for the maximum amount of people possible, not just pretend they are some unknown guru somewhere and develop self delusion around this [harmful to the individuals doing this]

Those who have nothing to hide and those who have serious intents to give, they can give and help in the largest community with:

1. Maximum impact on the growth of others.
2. Maximum self growth [larger problems = larger empowerment for those who embark it]
3. Larger attention by the Gods [the Gods take care of the central community of the ToZ]
4. They can learn from others who actually have done these things.
5. One can become a great or historical personality through this, not hidden in a den.

Yet as the above requires actual time investment and not empty words or to appear in front of only lesser people or randoms, this is something that requires effort. This effort cannot be circumvented. If one says they want a strong standing with the Gods, they must engage the core work of the Gods.

Given the above, if we are to presuppose that claims about good intents are there: prove them here, on the central and truly ordained community by the Gods. The help one can give here, extends so much in magnitude, that nothing compares.

If they are not, in which cases, even the creators of these are not aware of what I write here, themselves too. You need time and effort to understand this - they cannot understand it due to lack of this.

Normally how the Gods respond to this is by either not allowing progression, or merely, bringing these people back here. Since these people who want to help the Gods, they can help here directly both Gods and their fellows. To take the time wasting route is a time and energy waste for everyone involved; the Gods don't entertain wasted energy for misplaced understanding.

However as primarily the people behind of these things have self serving interests of a lower emotional nature [ie, not spiritually advanced at all or in other ways] or they are young and reckless [don't know how things work, they estimate and "dream" only], or they need validation [even though they would receive a lot more from here] they probably don't resort in doing the right thing always. The smart people do however.

The ego-loop does not want true development and wants a fair amount of years of themselves and others wasted into nothingness.

The enemy writes in their bible: "Let the house of Satan be divided upon itself, so it doth fall". Those who participated in anyway in the above, are sunk in all levels by the Gods. We have seen this here over the years. No matter what is stated about this - the outcome of this is either division and failure, put on the context of an incapable ego, three things the Gods hate severely.

The above can be highly enraging to the Gods and I tell you frankly after having observed tens of these not only fall apart, but the people in them, receiving a large hand by the Gods in their face.

-High Priest Hooded Cobra 666
Thanks for the sermon
I like it
Hail Zues and the Gods always! !!!!!
 
No, I meant that because I was white I should give priority to white people. And I was indirectly asking permission from HP HoodedCobra666 to take care of non-whites as well, after I finished taking care of my peoples. :D

When you are advanced enough to have taken care of our white people collectively to a good extent, you will have what it takes to extend this helping hand to those of other people.

Just keep in mind here that balance is important. You can't help too much, especially when one is not of this collective of people.
 
When you are advanced enough to have taken care of our white people collectively to a good extent, you will have what it takes to extend this helping hand to those of other people.

Just keep in mind here that balance is important. You can't help too much, especially when one is not of this collective of people.

I have to manage things well though. Basically a white person who also spends time on nonwhite sections however good the intentions are, might not turn out to be any different than a white person who goes to live in an Africanl country to help Africans. Beautiful as an intent, but basically you just moved to another culture. So it's not so immediately manageable.
 
I was actually looking on how to message you to try and start the process of doing something similar and found this. I want to say that I agree with everything I have read in here and have been looking to start something like this ever since becoming odinist. My original plan was to start a outter hall of the rune-gild. That still may be in my future, but I have been put on hold from that because I am not receiving any replies, because I am incarcerated I guess. Although thru my efforts I have explained that it is not a problem being in here because I have a phone and I have had one pretty much the whole time being in here. But either way I am just trying to start the process of communication and a relationship. I saw templeofzeus from joyofsatan and thought how cool would it be to have another one templeofwoden involved as well. You have a lot about Odin and the runes but not it's own like Satan and Zeus. I'm assuming you need an "Odinist" for it. And I would love to build our relationship and trust to the point of being able to have that honor. These sites and forums are the first thing that I have ever found that is exactly like what I wanted and am going to do when I get home. My plan was originally to start a spiritual nonprofit or church but no denomination or nonspecific. Teaching spiritual Awakening classes or understanding. Eventually I would love to have a community involved or built around it. There is not much help for us in here. And although society may say or believe different, there are good ones here. And also some that don't belong here, not for the amount of time they got at least. I would love to be able to help the ones in here that are truly serious and even the seekers, it would be on them to continue and put the effort back in. I want to help teach emotional intelligence so they can learn how to change the way they think and how to do things instead of the only thing that they knew to survive that got them here. I want to help them and learn how to raise and take care of their family, job training, business training, self-help, parenting classes, etc. I know that this is not the time for any of that so it's just a quick brief and minimal explanation. I would just love for an opportunity to be able to start communicating and build a relationship with whoever I would need to that can either point me in the right direction of how to do certain things on my own or would possibly be willing to one day let me join with them. My intentions are pure and I am not worried about how long it may take to prove that and make it happen. Right now I currently have about two and a half years left untill I am finally able to come home and start my life. I feel like now is the time to really get this started.
 
There is no need for a seperate individual group for the Odin name. Zeus is Satan is Odin, and all of the many other names used in every other language. In civilizations all over the world, we worked with the same Gods and the same supreme head God. Let our efforts and our work not be divided, and not be made weaker by needless division. What is stronger, a million pound meteorite flying through the sky, or a pile of seperate dust particles that have all been scattered in seperate directions?

If you are genuine, you will be spiritually and educationally rewarded by learning from all of the knowledge we share through our work, and you will grow to understand the full importance of our work. You can keep using the name Odin if you feel a close connection using this name. But read all of the information we share, and learn from our work. We work to bring humanity closer together with the Gods.

 
I was actually looking on how to message you to try and start the process of doing something similar and found this. I want to say that I agree with everything I have read in here and have been looking to start something like this ever since becoming odinist. My original plan was to start a outter hall of the rune-gild. That still may be in my future, but I have been put on hold from that because I am not receiving any replies, because I am incarcerated I guess. Although thru my efforts I have explained that it is not a problem being in here because I have a phone and I have had one pretty much the whole time being in here. But either way I am just trying to start the process of communication and a relationship. I saw templeofzeus from joyofsatan and thought how cool would it be to have another one templeofwoden involved as well. You have a lot about Odin and the runes but not it's own like Satan and Zeus. I'm assuming you need an "Odinist" for it. And I would love to build our relationship and trust to the point of being able to have that honor. These sites and forums are the first thing that I have ever found that is exactly like what I wanted and am going to do when I get home. My plan was originally to start a spiritual nonprofit or church but no denomination or nonspecific. Teaching spiritual Awakening classes or understanding. Eventually I would love to have a community involved or built around it. There is not much help for us in here. And although society may say or believe different, there are good ones here. And also some that don't belong here, not for the amount of time they got at least. I would love to be able to help the ones in here that are truly serious and even the seekers, it would be on them to continue and put the effort back in. I want to help teach emotional intelligence so they can learn how to change the way they think and how to do things instead of the only thing that they knew to survive that got them here. I want to help them and learn how to raise and take care of their family, job training, business training, self-help, parenting classes, etc. I know that this is not the time for any of that so it's just a quick brief and minimal explanation. I would just love for an opportunity to be able to start communicating and build a relationship with whoever I would need to that can either point me in the right direction of how to do certain things on my own or would possibly be willing to one day let me join with them. My intentions are pure and I am not worried about how long it may take to prove that and make it happen. Right now I currently have about two and a half years left untill I am finally able to come home and start my life. I feel like now is the time to really get this started.


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There is no need for a seperate individual group for the Odin name. Zeus is Satan is Odin, and all of the many other names used in every other language. In civilizations all over the world, we worked with the same Gods and the same supreme head God. Let our efforts and our work not be divided, and not be made weaker by needless division. What is stronger, a million pound meteorite flying through the sky, or a pile of seperate dust particles that have all been scattered in seperate directions?

If you are genuine, you will be spiritually and educationally rewarded by learning from all of the knowledge we share through our work, and you will grow to understand the full importance of our work. You can keep using the name Odin if you feel a close connection using this name. But read all of the information we share, and learn from our work. We work to bring humanity closer together with the Gods.

I agree 100%. In fact that is exactly what I do. My concern was more to help the "odinists" that are not yet where I am. I just think it would bring more of us together, as there are alot of odinists, to have a connected website templeofwoden.org connected to joS and toZ. Same set up but having rune work be the primary with the other ones still there like the existing sites are now. I am planning I doing it when I can already, I am new to these sites and instantly I am home so I am basing everything from them. I am also going to start a community as well and non profit when the gods are ready for me to. I believe it is coming
 
Every so often, there are messages in my e-mail about "external communities". In this topic I will very briefly explain why this is both needless and rather hypocritical at the same time.

Normally, these arrive from randoms who suddenly want to create communities and speak of grandiose statements about them. What we have here is the following:

1. People who never done anything for the actual central community, wanting to create communities for what they claim is "grand purposes" and "mission of the Gods".
2. They deny all the above is already happening here directly, never laid a hand for it. [incompetence, laziness, rampant egoism and denial].
3. Proceeding to create these, these fail, oftentimes miserably [taking others down with them] since they have no knowledge of what it truly means to build alongside the Gods and the central community.
4. This wastes years, time and energy and other resources from the Gods and people participating in these, to likely feed the ego of clearly incapable and lazy people leading them.
5. Cycle continues based on ego, ie, certain people wanting certain privileges and elevations they never earned in front of the Gods or the actual community.
6. These people need to hide and try to form other things; which can be of either totally misguiding nature, or dubious in general.
7. If one has a lot to give and do, it's best to do this for the maximum amount of people possible, not just pretend they are some unknown guru somewhere and develop self delusion around this [harmful to the individuals doing this]

Those who have nothing to hide and those who have serious intents to give, they can give and help in the largest community with:

1. Maximum impact on the growth of others.
2. Maximum self growth [larger problems = larger empowerment for those who embark it]
3. Larger attention by the Gods [the Gods take care of the central community of the ToZ]
4. They can learn from others who actually have done these things.
5. One can become a great or historical personality through this, not hidden in a den.

Yet as the above requires actual time investment and not empty words or to appear in front of only lesser people or randoms, this is something that requires effort. This effort cannot be circumvented. If one says they want a strong standing with the Gods, they must engage the core work of the Gods.

Given the above, if we are to presuppose that claims about good intents are there: prove them here, on the central and truly ordained community by the Gods. The help one can give here, extends so much in magnitude, that nothing compares.

If they are not, in which cases, even the creators of these are not aware of what I write here, themselves too. You need time and effort to understand this - they cannot understand it due to lack of this.

Normally how the Gods respond to this is by either not allowing progression, or merely, bringing these people back here. Since these people who want to help the Gods, they can help here directly both Gods and their fellows. To take the time wasting route is a time and energy waste for everyone involved; the Gods don't entertain wasted energy for misplaced understanding.

However as primarily the people behind of these things have self serving interests of a lower emotional nature [ie, not spiritually advanced at all or in other ways] or they are young and reckless [don't know how things work, they estimate and "dream" only], or they need validation [even though they would receive a lot more from here] they probably don't resort in doing the right thing always. The smart people do however.

The ego-loop does not want true development and wants a fair amount of years of themselves and others wasted into nothingness.

The enemy writes in their bible: "Let the house of Satan be divided upon itself, so it doth fall". Those who participated in anyway in the above, are sunk in all levels by the Gods. We have seen this here over the years. No matter what is stated about this - the outcome of this is either division and failure, put on the context of an incapable ego, three things the Gods hate severely.

The above can be highly enraging to the Gods and I tell you frankly after having observed tens of these not only fall apart, but the people in them, receiving a large hand by the Gods in their face.

-High Priest Hooded Cobra 666
I am only trying to pass along a true and righteous path to my descendants and help show the my people truth. I am worried for them. The schools, the media, society in general. I want a place that is safe for our families and children to be able to all come together and grow. I do not want an external community. I want to be connected to this community and do all I can to be able to actually build something to be able to come together and grow together. Not just on the Internet. I have a calling but I am scared to do it for this exact reason. I do not want to lead anyone down the wrong path. I know most is just living by example and staying true to it, but I need to know that my example that people are following is right. I am doing everything I can to learn and grow and I am doing great. I just don't want to get arrogant, I need to stay balanced and be involved in something that there are other leaders like me to call me on my mistakes like I will theirs.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Shaitan

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