Both give me your birth time place of birth and date and in a few moments I'll send you exactly what it Chiron means by it's house, sign and, degree
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Squares are always in effect retrograde deepening on planet and house sign put there own spin on it and about the moon yes but only time phase matters is in working far more complex sciences than casting simple charts
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Don't forget longitude, attitude, and birth time and I'll will explain to you how I mapped it and the effects of integration between angles
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