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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Joe" <joestorm92@... wrote:
just some advice, you shouldn't use anything "recreationally", which to me implys that you are using drugs because you are bored or have nothing else to do.when drugs become a recreational activity, than there is usually some depression involved. trust me i know from experienc. i take adderall medicinally and i never have trouble sleeping from it. you should not have to take something to sleep, that is not natural.
drugs are not fun recreational activities, this type of behavior will only harm in the end. using a drug just to have fun or just cause is definately abuse of that drug, which i personally feel is against true satanism. a person usually abuses a drug because of a lack of spiritual energy, which causes depression and carelessness. with less spiritual energy you are more likely to think "oh, it doesn't matter or what the hell, its just once right"
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "cody_best1" <cody_best1@ wrote:
I have. Always want tO write music or draw when on it. Lack of sleep will take it's toll though. Better have seraquil ( or how ever it's spelled) to counter act it when your feeling like you want to sleep.
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[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@ wrote:
thanks ^_^
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From: briangibbons20@
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:32:20 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
Understood and agree my brother.
Hail Satan
Brian
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Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
what I was trying to get at is that kike medication has kike effects on peoples brains, because it was made by kike's for gentiles or lower class kikes which the upper class kikes could care less about. kike medication is used by kikes for kike purposes. kike medication is pushed on the gentile populace for control,subjecation and stigmatizion of said populace. flouride shuts down and destroys the pineal gland. its in an anti-depressant, the one you took.
that stratera has no stimulants is of no consequence. it still fucks with your head. and that any medication that changes the way a child is able to see the world is forced upon a child is wrong. if you are forcing your kids to take adhd or other meds and they are begging you not too, then i beg you to let them be free, to be themselves, as such is a right of all beings in nature.
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From: briangibbons20@
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:17:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities.
Hail Satan
Brian
From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@
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Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.
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From: eremoslukos8@
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!!
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Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not.
Hail Satan
Brian
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As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
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do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
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From: munchiegore@
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?
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