Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

[Munchie Gore]

I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Andre Wilson]

do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!


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As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!!Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800To: <[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Munchie Gore]

Oh okay. Thanx. I was just wondering because on one of the JOS sites it said recreational marijuana was okay...and marijuana is not something that should be used for that. Youd be trying to meditate and then you would either fall asleep or start thinking about food lol.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... wrote:


do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Lexa Osterreich]

it'd be a good idea to stop taking it for a concentration aid .< soon you'll be able to focus without that. and your nervous system will be restored, that stuff slowly harms, dependency is a root of evil .<
for fun yee jus not too much.... not more than you meditate

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Munchie Gore" <munchiegore@... wrote:

I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Brian Gibbons]

Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not.Hail SatanBrian

From: "eremoslukos8@..." <eremoslukos8@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!!Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T<hr>From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800To: <[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Munchie Gore]

Already off of it^_^ I was only on it for 2 months anyway and I would hate to become dependent on that just so i can meditate.. Father Satan and myself are all i need. I wasn't thinking too much when i asked this question. Sorry about that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Lexa Osterreich" <lexaosterreich@... wrote:

it'd be a good idea to stop taking it for a concentration aid .< soon you'll be able to focus without that. and your nervous system will be restored, that stuff slowly harms, dependency is a root of evil .<
for fun yee jus not too much.... not more than you meditate




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Munchie Gore" <munchiegore@ wrote:

I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Andre Wilson]

Oh, one thing I want to say, if you're a satanist, and you have a kid that you put on adderall.... take them off. it will fuck off their growth in more than one way. lowers testosterone levels due to decreased blood flow to the extremities, and I'm pretty sure that fucks up the growth of the extremities too. ADHD is a made up disease. Its kinda like drapetomania or however you say it. thats the mental disease black slaves that ran away had.... Adderall is there to weaken and control people, like so much else in this over-jewed world.
 I'm really tired, but I'd love it if somebody went ahead and furthered what I wrote so I could put the rest of what I was trying to say together more cleary XD
 hs/88!
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:32:57 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  Already off of it^_^ I was only on it for 2 months anyway and I would hate to become dependent on that just so i can meditate.. Father Satan and myself are all i need. I wasn't thinking too much when i asked this question. Sorry about that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Lexa Osterreich" <lexaosterreich@... wrote:

it'd be a good idea to stop taking it for a concentration aid .< soon you'll be able to focus without that. and your nervous system will be restored, that stuff slowly harms, dependency is a root of evil .<
for fun yee jus not too much.... not more than you meditate




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Munchie Gore" <munchiegore@ wrote:

I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

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Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!!Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST)To: [email protected]<[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not.Hail SatanBrian

From: "eremoslukos8@..." <eremoslukos8@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!!Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T<hr>From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800To: <[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Indigo Nation]

I wouldn't do it. Adderal actually takes away your ability to spiritually sense things, and is a drug created to fuck up people spiritually (not all medications are though some are helpful/needed at least until a person is able to heal) from personal experience I never took it but I know someone that did and was an addict of this drug. It can cause really strange thought patterns (such as obsessions, delusions etc if taken enough) I wouldn't say it would help with concentrating on meditation. I was given ritalin as a kid something in me told me to spit it out. Until my parents started forcing me to take it. I am labeled as autistic/Aspergers syndrome but I kind of doubt that I have a problem, I was more sensitive as a kid, and experiencing spiritual things and sensing vibes, and a bunch of stuff I cannot remember plus I had a sense a majority of the xtian stuff was BS and knew some of the truth from memory, was having past life flashes etc. When I went on ritilin I lost those abilities relatively quickly, and kind of forgot about them until years later. I used to for example now that I remember feel the spirits of xtians rotting away etc, when I lost that ability and was on the meds I was fooled into believing the BS. So no I don't support think you should try Adderal recreationally its not that much different than ritalin so far as the effects spiritually. I never tried adderal so I cannot say if the effects are the same. Though, but basically id say its something the kikes use to brainwash people into the system, and make them more receptive to propaganda and passive to the point of being a zombie. Just my experience.
Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], eremoslukos8@... wrote:

Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Reply-To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not.
Hail Satan
Brian




________________________________
From: "eremoslukos8@..." <eremoslukos8@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?


 
As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
________________________________

From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

 
do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 


________________________________
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

 
I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[[email protected]]

I'd love to reply to your post, especially since not only I have it, but besides the studies I've read up on it my nephew has it severely. To the point where its so bad that he won't sit more than 2 minutes to sit down to play a simple video game with out jumping up and running around screaming when he doesn't take his meds. I'm not trying to argue or make an issue of this, but unless you've experienced this anyway FIRST hand you've no idea what its about. Look, I hate and despise any kike just as much as the next Satanist, but like Brian said, as well as others if you don't want to believe me, this is a REAL chemical imbalance due directly to jewry, the influence of Fluoride and such. Saying its a fake disease is an insult to myself, Munchie or any other person who suffers from this. The comment about children is agreed upon, however, not everyone is a Satanist with the ability to care for their kids, or the amount of power/experience to fix the issue!Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:08:22 -0800To: <[email protected]ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  Oh, one thing I want to say, if you're a satanist, and you have a kid that you put on adderall.... take them off. it will fuck off their growth in more than one way. lowers testosterone levels due to decreased blood flow to the extremities, and I'm pretty sure that fucks up the growth of the extremities too. ADHD is a made up disease. Its kinda like drapetomania or however you say it. thats the mental disease black slaves that ran away had.... Adderall is there to weaken and control people, like so much else in this over-jewed world.
 I'm really tired, but I'd love it if somebody went ahead and furthered what I wrote so I could put the rest of what I was trying to say together more cleary XD
 hs/88!
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:32:57 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  Already off of it^_^ I was only on it for 2 months anyway and I would hate to become dependent on that just so i can meditate.. Father Satan and myself are all i need. I wasn't thinking too much when i asked this question. Sorry about that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Lexa Osterreich" <lexaosterreich@... wrote:

it'd be a good idea to stop taking it for a concentration aid .< soon you'll be able to focus without that. and your nervous system will be restored, that stuff slowly harms, dependency is a root of evil .<
for fun yee jus not too much.... not more than you meditate




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Munchie Gore" <munchiegore@ wrote:

I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Andre Wilson]

so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
 I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.

To: [email protected]
From: eremoslukos8@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected]<[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not. Hail Satan Brian

From: "eremoslukos8@..." <eremoslukos8@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800 To: <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

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[mr_kushgod]

Boosting meditations with drugs always results in boosting blockages in your chakras. Meditate without anything which is the natural way and the right way to elevate yourself.

Hail Enki!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... wrote:


do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Brian Gibbons]

so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened  over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities.Hail SatanBrian 

From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
 I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.

To: [email protected]
From: eremoslukos8@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected]<[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not. Hail Satan Brian

From: "eremoslukos8@..." <eremoslukos8@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800 To: <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Don Danko]

No shock[/IMG]</var> eating processed sugar, MSG filled "food" and sitting infront of the boobtube all day their ADD/ADHD just seem to magically vanish.

From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 3:17:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened  over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities. Hail Satan Brian 

From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
 I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.
To: [email protected]
From: eremoslukos8@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected]<[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not. Hail Satan Brian

From: "eremoslukos8@..." <eremoslukos8@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800 To: <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 
To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Andre Wilson]

what I was trying to get at is that kike medication has kike effects on peoples brains, because it was made by kike's for gentiles or lower class kikes which the upper class kikes could care less about. kike medication is used by kikes for kike purposes. kike medication is pushed on the gentile populace for control,subjecation and stigmatizion of said populace. flouride shuts down and destroys the pineal gland. its in an anti-depressant, the one you took.
 that stratera has no stimulants is of no consequence. it still fucks with your head. and that any medication that changes the way a child is able to see the world is forced upon a child is wrong. if you are forcing your kids to take adhd or other meds and they are begging you not too, then i beg you to let them be free, to be themselves, as such is a right of all beings in nature.
 

To: [email protected]
From: briangibbons20@...
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:17:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened  over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities. Hail Satan Brian 

From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
 I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.

To: [email protected]
From: eremoslukos8@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected]<[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not. Hail Satan Brian

From: "eremoslukos8@..." <eremoslukos8@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800 To: <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

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[Brian Gibbons]

Understood and agree my brother.Hail SatanBrian

From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  what I was trying to get at is that kike medication has kike effects on peoples brains, because it was made by kike's for gentiles or lower class kikes which the upper class kikes could care less about. kike medication is used by kikes for kike purposes. kike medication is pushed on the gentile populace for control,subjecation and stigmatizion of said populace. flouride shuts down and destroys the pineal gland. its in an anti-depressant, the one you took.
 that stratera has no stimulants is of no consequence. it still fucks with your head. and that any medication that changes the way a child is able to see the world is forced upon a child is wrong. if you are forcing your kids to take adhd or other meds and they are begging you not too, then i beg you to let them be free, to be themselves, as such is a right of all beings in nature.
 

To: [email protected]
From: briangibbons20@...
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:17:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened  over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities. Hail Satan Brian 

From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
 I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.

To: [email protected]
From: eremoslukos8@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected]<[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not. Hail Satan Brian

From: "eremoslukos8@..." <eremoslukos8@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800 To: <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Andre Wilson]

Firsthand expierience? .<
 I honestly wondered whether there was any imbalance at all in my brain. I didn't really believe there was. I was just... acting out the way I felt to act. which is part of the reason the meds got too me so bad. it was hard for me to talk when I wanted to, I started second guessing myself all the time, and so on. and I've noticed a lot of kids on adderall or like 17-18ish year olds that were on it for a while seem to have a frail(?) vibe about them. I feel like theres a natural solution to this, not amphetamines.
 

To: [email protected]
From: eremoslukos8@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:32:38 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'd love to reply to your post, especially since not only I have it, but besides the studies I've read up on it my nephew has it severely. To the point where its so bad that he won't sit more than 2 minutes to sit down to play a simple video game with out jumping up and running around screaming when he doesn't take his meds. I'm not trying to argue or make an issue of this, but unless you've experienced this anyway FIRST hand you've no idea what its about. Look, I hate and despise any kike just as much as the next Satanist, but like Brian said, as well as others if you don't want to believe me, this is a REAL chemical imbalance due directly to jewry, the influence of Fluoride and such. Saying its a fake disease is an insult to myself, Munchie or any other person who suffers from this. The comment about children is agreed upon, however, not everyone is a Satanist with the ability to care for their kids, or the amount of power/experience to fix the issue! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:08:22 -0800 To: <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  Oh, one thing I want to say, if you're a satanist, and you have a kid that you put on adderall.... take them off. it will fuck off their growth in more than one way. lowers testosterone levels due to decreased blood flow to the extremities, and I'm pretty sure that fucks up the growth of the extremities too. ADHD is a made up disease. Its kinda like drapetomania or however you say it. thats the mental disease black slaves that ran away had.... Adderall is there to weaken and control people, like so much else in this over-jewed world.
 I'm really tired, but I'd love it if somebody went ahead and furthered what I wrote so I could put the rest of what I was trying to say together more cleary XD
 hs/88!
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:32:57 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  Already off of it^_^ I was only on it for 2 months anyway and I would hate to become dependent on that just so i can meditate.. Father Satan and myself are all i need. I wasn't thinking too much when i asked this question. Sorry about that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Lexa Osterreich" <lexaosterreich@... wrote:

it'd be a good idea to stop taking it for a concentration aid .< soon you'll be able to focus without that. and your nervous system will be restored, that stuff slowly harms, dependency is a root of evil .<
for fun yee jus not too much.... not more than you meditate




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Munchie Gore" <munchiegore@ wrote:

I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

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[Andre Wilson]

thanks ^_^
 

To: [email protected]
From: briangibbons20@...
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:32:20 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  Understood and agree my brother. Hail Satan Brian

From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  what I was trying to get at is that kike medication has kike effects on peoples brains, because it was made by kike's for gentiles or lower class kikes which the upper class kikes could care less about. kike medication is used by kikes for kike purposes. kike medication is pushed on the gentile populace for control,subjecation and stigmatizion of said populace. flouride shuts down and destroys the pineal gland. its in an anti-depressant, the one you took.
 that stratera has no stimulants is of no consequence. it still fucks with your head. and that any medication that changes the way a child is able to see the world is forced upon a child is wrong. if you are forcing your kids to take adhd or other meds and they are begging you not too, then i beg you to let them be free, to be themselves, as such is a right of all beings in nature.
 

To: [email protected]
From: briangibbons20@...
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:17:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened  over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities. Hail Satan Brian 

From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
 I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.

To: [email protected]
From: eremoslukos8@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST) To: [email protected]<[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not. Hail Satan Brian

From: "eremoslukos8@..." <eremoslukos8@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!! Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T <hr> From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... Sender: [email protected] Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800 To: <[email protected] ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?
  do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES
 

To: [email protected]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

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[cody_best1]

I have. Always want tO write music or draw when on it. Lack of sleep will take it's toll though. Better have seraquil ( or how ever it's spelled) to counter act it when your feeling like you want to sleep.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... wrote:


thanks ^_^




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: briangibbons20@...
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:32:20 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?








Understood and agree my brother.
Hail Satan
Brian






From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






what I was trying to get at is that kike medication has kike effects on peoples brains, because it was made by kike's for gentiles or lower class kikes which the upper class kikes could care less about. kike medication is used by kikes for kike purposes. kike medication is pushed on the gentile populace for control,subjecation and stigmatizion of said populace. flouride shuts down and destroys the pineal gland. its in an anti-depressant, the one you took.
that stratera has no stimulants is of no consequence. it still fucks with your head. and that any medication that changes the way a child is able to see the world is forced upon a child is wrong. if you are forcing your kids to take adhd or other meds and they are begging you not too, then i beg you to let them be free, to be themselves, as such is a right of all beings in nature.





To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: briangibbons20@...
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:17:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities.
Hail Satan
Brian







From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: eremoslukos8@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@...
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST)
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?





Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not.
Hail Satan
Brian







From: "eremoslukos8@..." <eremoslukos8@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?





As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES





To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Joe]

just some advice, you shouldn't use anything "recreationally", which to me implys that you are using drugs because you are bored or have nothing else to do.when drugs become a recreational activity, than there is usually some depression involved. trust me i know from experienc. i take adderall medicinally and i never have trouble sleeping from it. you should not have to take something to sleep, that is not natural.

drugs are not fun recreational activities, this type of behavior will only harm in the end. using a drug just to have fun or just cause is definately abuse of that drug, which i personally feel is against true satanism. a person usually abuses a drug because of a lack of spiritual energy, which causes depression and carelessness. with less spiritual energy you are more likely to think "oh, it doesn't matter or what the hell, its just once right"

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "cody_best1" <cody_best1@... wrote:

I have. Always want tO write music or draw when on it. Lack of sleep will take it's toll though. Better have seraquil ( or how ever it's spelled) to counter act it when your feeling like you want to sleep.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@ wrote:


thanks ^_^




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: briangibbons20@
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:32:20 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?








Understood and agree my brother.
Hail Satan
Brian






From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






what I was trying to get at is that kike medication has kike effects on peoples brains, because it was made by kike's for gentiles or lower class kikes which the upper class kikes could care less about. kike medication is used by kikes for kike purposes. kike medication is pushed on the gentile populace for control,subjecation and stigmatizion of said populace. flouride shuts down and destroys the pineal gland. its in an anti-depressant, the one you took.
that stratera has no stimulants is of no consequence. it still fucks with your head. and that any medication that changes the way a child is able to see the world is forced upon a child is wrong. if you are forcing your kids to take adhd or other meds and they are begging you not too, then i beg you to let them be free, to be themselves, as such is a right of all beings in nature.





To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: briangibbons20@
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:17:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities.
Hail Satan
Brian







From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: eremoslukos8@
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST)
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]<[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?





Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not.
Hail Satan
Brian







From: "eremoslukos8@" <eremoslukos8@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?





As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES





To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: munchiegore@
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Joe]

I agree with eremoslukos8, i have severe adhd, and i take my adderall whenever i need to focus on work oriented stuff, like homework or cleaning. I am not dependent upon it and have been using it for about 4 years and have never takent it for more once a day (even though i am prescribed to take it twice a day) for more than two weeks(which was during a tough time at college by the way)

overall what i have found with adderall is that it definately doesn't effect your spiritual awareness the negative way that ritilin and cocaine do, when you use it responsibly and with moderation. If you abuse adderall it greatly reduces your power and spiritual awareness. I KNOW THIS FROM EXPERIENCE.
before i truly found Father Satan, i used to abuse stimulants, and my favorites were cocaine and adderall. when you abuse these drugs they cause a false sense of confidence and euphoria as well as over stimulation which causes insomnia, loss of appetite, egotistical overconfidence, and after not sleeping right for awhile will cause dependence and delusions.

after finding father Satan, one of the first things he had me do was quit abusing drugs, especially cocaine. He showed me what abusing the coke was doing to me, and i stopped immediately. after that, i began to slip in school because of my ADHD which i was self medicating with cocaine.

I ended up getting prescribed adderall, and I have asked Satan many times if it is ok for me to use it. he has said yes. but he will never let me take it when i have no need for it.(like to help meditate or something.) I have taken it in a situation like that once since having my prescription, and i began to regret it almost instantly, and their was a feeling of dissapointment in me. i spent the rest of the night not able to sleep and the next day was only saved by the fact that i meditated more than usual.

overall, i guess what i have to say is, if you have ADHD,(which is not a jew created disorder, as they can do brain scans that show what ADHD is, which is a malfunction in certain dopamine recepters that affect memory, concentration, and resposnibility.) BUT BE WARNED, EVEN THOUGH THE JEWS DIDN'T "INVENT" ADHD(ALTHOUGH, I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE THE CAUSE OF THIS DISORDER), NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE IT. MANY PEOPLE ARE PRESCRIBED ADDERALL AND RITILIN SIMPLY BECAUSE THE DOCTORS ARE TOO LAZY TO TRY AND FIND OUT WHAT IS REALLY WRONG. MY GUESS IS THAT SOMEWERE AROUND TWO THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE DIAGNOSED WITH ADHD ARE ACTUALLY SUFFERING FROM SOMETHING ELSE THAT HAS SIMILAR SYMPTOMS, SUCH AS DEPRESSION OR BIPOLAR DISORDER.

ALSO, NEVER TAKE ADDERALL EVERYDAY FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME, ALWAYS TAKE AT LEAST A THREE DAY BREAK EVERY WEAK OR TWO, BECAUSE YOU CAN BECOME DEPENDENT UPON IT.

when used correctly adderall does not prevent me from meditating(it doesn't make me better at it either), and it does not decrease my spiritual awareness (such as cocaine and ritilin do, even in low amounts!)

ALSO, NEVER LET CHILDREN OR TEENS TAKE THIS TYPE OF MEDICATION (STIMULANT). IT DOES DAMAGE THEIR BRAIN AS THEY ARE STILL GROWING AND THEIR BRAIN WILL GROW TO BE USED TO THE DRUG, THEREBY CAUSING TO HAVE LESS OF AN EFFECT AND CAUSING THEM TO BECOME PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY DEPENDENT UPON IT. I DIDN'T START TAKING AMPHETAMINES UNTIL I BECAME AN ADULT, AND THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD BE. THE JEWS RUNNING THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY DON'T CARE ABOUT OUR WELL BEINGS, THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE DRUGS, AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GIVE IT TO KIDS WHO WILL BECOME DEPENDENT FOR LIFE.

so the answer is: adderall as a meditation aid? NO, WILL NOT HELP.
adderall as a recreational drug: NO, WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS.
adderall as a treatment for adhd? YES, TAKE AS PRESCRIBED(BUT ALSO TAKE BREAKS, AND DON'T GIVE TO KIDS) BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE POSITIVE THAT YOU HAVE ADHD AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE ADDERALL WILL ONLY MAKE THAT STUFF EVEN WORSE.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], eremoslukos8@... wrote:

I'd love to reply to your post, especially since not only I have it, but besides the studies I've read up on it my nephew has it severely. To the point where its so bad that he won't sit more than 2 minutes to sit down to play a simple video game with out jumping up and running around screaming when he doesn't take his meds. I'm not trying to argue or make an issue of this, but unless you've experienced this anyway FIRST hand you've no idea what its about. Look, I hate and despise any kike just as much as the next Satanist, but like Brian said, as well as others if you don't want to believe me, this is a REAL chemical imbalance due directly to jewry, the influence of Fluoride and such. Saying its a fake disease is an insult to myself, Munchie or any other person who suffers from this. The comment about children is agreed upon, however, not everyone is a Satanist with the ability to care for their kids, or the amount of power/experience to fix the issue!
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Oh, one thing I want to say, if you're a satanist, and you have a kid that you put on adderall.... take them off. it will fuck off their growth in more than one way. lowers testosterone levels due to decreased blood flow to the extremities, and I'm pretty sure that fucks up the growth of the extremities too. ADHD is a made up disease. Its kinda like drapetomania or however you say it. thats the mental disease black slaves that ran away had.... Adderall is there to weaken and control people, like so much else in this over-jewed world.
I'm really tired, but I'd love it if somebody went ahead and furthered what I wrote so I could put the rest of what I was trying to say together more cleary XD
hs/88!




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:32:57 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






Already off of it^_^ I was only on it for 2 months anyway and I would hate to become dependent on that just so i can meditate.. Father Satan and myself are all i need. I wasn't thinking too much when i asked this question. Sorry about that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Lexa Osterreich" <lexaosterreich@ wrote:

it'd be a good idea to stop taking it for a concentration aid .< soon you'll be able to focus without that. and your nervous system will be restored, that stuff slowly harms, dependency is a root of evil .<
for fun yee jus not too much.... not more than you meditate




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Munchie Gore" <munchiegore@ wrote:

I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[Andre Wilson]

no, you dont use one pill to deal with effects of the other...
 

To: [email protected]
From: cody_best1@...
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 00:33:26 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

  I have. Always want tO write music or draw when on it. Lack of sleep will take it's toll though. Better have seraquil ( or how ever it's spelled) to counter act it when your feeling like you want to sleep.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... wrote:


thanks ^_^




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From: briangibbons20@...
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:32:20 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?








Understood and agree my brother.
Hail Satan
Brian






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Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






what I was trying to get at is that kike medication has kike effects on peoples brains, because it was made by kike's for gentiles or lower class kikes which the upper class kikes could care less about. kike medication is used by kikes for kike purposes. kike medication is pushed on the gentile populace for control,subjecation and stigmatizion of said populace. flouride shuts down and destroys the pineal gland. its in an anti-depressant, the one you took.
that stratera has no stimulants is of no consequence. it still fucks with your head. and that any medication that changes the way a child is able to see the world is forced upon a child is wrong. if you are forcing your kids to take adhd or other meds and they are begging you not too, then i beg you to let them be free, to be themselves, as such is a right of all beings in nature.





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From: briangibbons20@...
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:17:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities.
Hail Satan
Brian







From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@...
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Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.




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From: eremoslukos8@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!!
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Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not.
Hail Satan
Brian







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As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
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do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES





To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: munchiegore@...
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

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Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2012 11:54 AM
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?

I agree with eremoslukos8, i have severe adhd, and i take my adderall whenever i need to focus on work oriented stuff, like homework or cleaning.  I am not dependent upon it and have been using it for about 4 years and have never takent it for more once a day (even though i am prescribed to take it twice a day) for more than two weeks(which was during a tough time at college by the way)

overall what i have found with adderall is that it definately doesn't effect your spiritual awareness the negative way that ritilin and cocaine do, when you use it responsibly and with moderation.  If you abuse adderall it greatly reduces your power and spiritual awareness. I KNOW THIS FROM EXPERIENCE.
before i truly found Father Satan, i used to abuse stimulants, and my favorites were cocaine and adderall.  when you abuse these drugs they cause a false sense of confidence and euphoria as well as over stimulation which causes insomnia, loss of appetite, egotistical overconfidence, and after not sleeping right for awhile will cause dependence and delusions.

after finding father Satan, one of the first things he had me do was quit abusing drugs, especially cocaine. He showed me what abusing the coke was doing to me, and i stopped immediately.  after that, i began to slip in school because of my ADHD which i was self medicating with cocaine. 

I ended up getting prescribed adderall, and I have asked Satan many times if it is ok for me to use it.  he has said yes.  but he will never let me take it when i have no need for it.(like to help meditate or something.)  I have taken it in a situation like that once since having my prescription, and i began to regret it almost instantly, and their was a feeling of dissapointment in me.  i spent the rest of the night not able to sleep and the next day was only saved by the fact that i meditated more than usual. 

overall, i guess what i have to say is, if you have ADHD,(which is not a jew created disorder, as they can do brain scans that show what ADHD is, which is a malfunction in certain dopamine recepters that affect memory, concentration, and resposnibility.) BUT BE WARNED, EVEN THOUGH THE JEWS DIDN'T "INVENT" ADHD(ALTHOUGH, I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE THE CAUSE OF THIS DISORDER), NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE IT. MANY PEOPLE ARE PRESCRIBED ADDERALL AND RITILIN SIMPLY BECAUSE THE DOCTORS ARE TOO LAZY TO TRY AND FIND OUT WHAT IS REALLY WRONG.  MY GUESS IS THAT SOMEWERE AROUND TWO THIRDS OF THE PEOPLE DIAGNOSED WITH ADHD ARE ACTUALLY SUFFERING FROM SOMETHING ELSE THAT HAS SIMILAR SYMPTOMS, SUCH AS DEPRESSION OR BIPOLAR DISORDER.

ALSO, NEVER TAKE ADDERALL EVERYDAY FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME, ALWAYS TAKE AT LEAST A THREE DAY BREAK EVERY WEAK OR TWO, BECAUSE YOU CAN BECOME DEPENDENT UPON IT.

when used correctly adderall does not prevent me from meditating(it doesn't make me better at it either), and it does not decrease my spiritual awareness (such as cocaine and ritilin do, even in low amounts!)

ALSO, NEVER LET CHILDREN OR TEENS TAKE THIS TYPE OF MEDICATION (STIMULANT).  IT DOES DAMAGE THEIR BRAIN AS THEY ARE STILL GROWING AND THEIR BRAIN WILL GROW TO BE USED TO THE DRUG, THEREBY CAUSING TO HAVE LESS OF AN EFFECT AND CAUSING THEM TO BECOME PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY DEPENDENT UPON IT.  I DIDN'T START TAKING AMPHETAMINES UNTIL I BECAME AN ADULT, AND THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.  THE JEWS RUNNING THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY DON'T CARE ABOUT OUR WELL BEINGS, THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE DRUGS, AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GIVE IT TO KIDS WHO WILL BECOME DEPENDENT FOR LIFE.

so the answer is: adderall as a meditation aid? NO, WILL NOT HELP.
                  adderall as a recreational drug: NO, WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS.
                  adderall as a treatment for adhd? YES, TAKE AS PRESCRIBED(BUT ALSO TAKE BREAKS, AND DON'T GIVE TO KIDS) BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE POSITIVE THAT YOU HAVE ADHD AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE ADDERALL WILL ONLY MAKE THAT STUFF EVEN WORSE.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], eremoslukos8@... wrote:

I'd love to reply to your post, especially since not only I have it, but besides the studies I've read up on it my nephew has it severely. To the point where its so bad that he won't sit more than 2 minutes to sit down to play a simple video game with out jumping up and running around screaming when he doesn't take his meds. I'm not trying to argue or make an issue of this, but unless you've experienced this anyway FIRST hand you've no idea what its about. Look, I hate and despise any kike just as much as the next Satanist, but like Brian said, as well as others if you don't want to believe me, this is a REAL chemical imbalance due directly to jewry, the influence of Fluoride and such. Saying its a fake disease is an insult to myself, Munchie or any other person who suffers from this. The comment about children is agreed upon, however, not everyone is a Satanist with the ability to care for their kids, or the amount of power/experience to fix the issue!
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Oh, one thing I want to say, if you're a satanist, and you have a kid that you put on adderall.... take them off. it will fuck off their growth in more than one way. lowers testosterone levels due to decreased blood flow to the extremities, and I'm pretty sure that fucks up the growth of the extremities too. ADHD is a made up disease. Its kinda like drapetomania or however you say it. thats the mental disease black slaves that ran away had.... Adderall is there to weaken and control people, like so much else in this over-jewed world.
  I'm really tired, but I'd love it if somebody went ahead and furthered what I wrote so I could put the rest of what I was trying to say together more cleary XD
  hs/88!
 



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From: munchiegore@...
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:32:57 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?


 



Already off of it^_^ I was only on it for 2 months anyway and I would hate to become dependent on that just so i can meditate.. Father Satan and myself are all i need. I wasn't thinking too much when i asked this question. Sorry about that.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Lexa Osterreich" <lexaosterreich@ wrote:

it'd be a good idea to stop taking it for a concentration aid .< soon you'll be able to focus without that. and your nervous system will be restored, that stuff slowly harms, dependency is a root of evil .<
for fun yee jus not too much.... not more than you meditate




--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Munchie Gore" <munchiegore@ wrote:

I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

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[siguarddraconis]

Let me just remind you one thing - potheads who were promoting weed or other drugs - which are WIDELY promoted by the kike - were banned from forum.

Just to let you know.

Siguard Draconis

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--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Joe" <joestorm92@... wrote:

just some advice, you shouldn't use anything "recreationally", which to me implys that you are using drugs because you are bored or have nothing else to do.when drugs become a recreational activity, than there is usually some depression involved. trust me i know from experienc. i take adderall medicinally and i never have trouble sleeping from it. you should not have to take something to sleep, that is not natural.

drugs are not fun recreational activities, this type of behavior will only harm in the end. using a drug just to have fun or just cause is definately abuse of that drug, which i personally feel is against true satanism. a person usually abuses a drug because of a lack of spiritual energy, which causes depression and carelessness. with less spiritual energy you are more likely to think "oh, it doesn't matter or what the hell, its just once right"

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "cody_best1" <cody_best1@ wrote:

I have. Always want tO write music or draw when on it. Lack of sleep will take it's toll though. Better have seraquil ( or how ever it's spelled) to counter act it when your feeling like you want to sleep.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@ wrote:


thanks ^_^




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: briangibbons20@
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:32:20 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?








Understood and agree my brother.
Hail Satan
Brian






From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






what I was trying to get at is that kike medication has kike effects on peoples brains, because it was made by kike's for gentiles or lower class kikes which the upper class kikes could care less about. kike medication is used by kikes for kike purposes. kike medication is pushed on the gentile populace for control,subjecation and stigmatizion of said populace. flouride shuts down and destroys the pineal gland. its in an anti-depressant, the one you took.
that stratera has no stimulants is of no consequence. it still fucks with your head. and that any medication that changes the way a child is able to see the world is forced upon a child is wrong. if you are forcing your kids to take adhd or other meds and they are begging you not too, then i beg you to let them be free, to be themselves, as such is a right of all beings in nature.





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From: briangibbons20@
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:17:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities.
Hail Satan
Brian







From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.




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From: eremoslukos8@
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!!
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Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not.
Hail Satan
Brian







From: "eremoslukos8@" <eremoslukos8@
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Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?





As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
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From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@
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do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES





To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: munchiegore@
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!

 

[cody_best1]

It was what was proscribed to my friend and he didn't want them so I took them. I liked it. High all day slept all night. You just need to eat. I'm not saying that I recondmend doing this or that it'll help you meditate or your spirituality. But that wasn't the question. Doing aderal or vivance is like doing small doses of meth. It's not healthy and has long term side effects such as destroyed dopimen receptors and fucks with your saratonin levels.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@... wrote:


no, you dont use one pill to deal with effects of the other...




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From: cody_best1@...
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 00:33:26 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Re: Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






I have. Always want tO write music or draw when on it. Lack of sleep will take it's toll though. Better have seraquil ( or how ever it's spelled) to counter act it when your feeling like you want to sleep.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Andre Wilson <darthxilon@ wrote:


thanks ^_^




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: briangibbons20@
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:32:20 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?








Understood and agree my brother.
Hail Satan
Brian






From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






what I was trying to get at is that kike medication has kike effects on peoples brains, because it was made by kike's for gentiles or lower class kikes which the upper class kikes could care less about. kike medication is used by kikes for kike purposes. kike medication is pushed on the gentile populace for control,subjecation and stigmatizion of said populace. flouride shuts down and destroys the pineal gland. its in an anti-depressant, the one you took.
that stratera has no stimulants is of no consequence. it still fucks with your head. and that any medication that changes the way a child is able to see the world is forced upon a child is wrong. if you are forcing your kids to take adhd or other meds and they are begging you not too, then i beg you to let them be free, to be themselves, as such is a right of all beings in nature.





To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: briangibbons20@
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 00:17:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






so,ah, Andre,I was sharing what happened over 20 years ago man.So don't think i am talking about recently.Not at all how i feel now,but since you brought it up,my reason for sharing that,was that if you need medication.it should be a temporary thing.But if you choose to nit pick,that's your deal not mine.And yes I believe now that advancing in meditation,can and does,heal us of any abnormalities.
Hail Satan
Brian







From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?






so ,uh, brian, was it the flouride in the prozac that helped with your depression?
I don't get all this talk about medication. aren't we, as satanists, supposed to be the masters of, in the least, our own minds? you take pills for problems rather than actually try and fix them, is there not a clear problem there? I mean, maybe the insomnia thing makes sense, I don't know I'm not you. it could actually be really bad. but adhd medication? it makes you hyper obsessive, fucks with your head. and honestly, I can pay attention just fine if I care to, and I was diagnosed with "ADHD". I honestly dont think adhd is real. when I dedicated, one of the first things that changed in my life was my medication being completely gone. at first, I really wanted to be back on it for meditations. didn't really get things back then. how do I explain this...? I just don't get adhd medication, when all you have to do is choose to pay attention. you learn patience and stuff from meditation, even if you were diagnosed with adhd.




To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: eremoslukos8@
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:01:47 +0000
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




Yes, this is true. I believe that even though medications are known as drugs, there is a big difference between med's and drug drugs. For instance as you spoke of, "selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors" and medications which have a direct influence on mood and state-of-mind. Or such as amphetamines a direct effect or influence on the physical self as well. I am also on a type of s.s.r.i. Desaril (trazadone) for sleep. This works also on the endorphan of dopamine. Without this medication, I can go through days of insomnia with nothing but short nods. However, I don't crush and sniff these as with Adderall (speed) like I did in the past. Glad to hear that not only are you feeling better, Brian, but also that Munchie has been able to get off of it without incidents,(don't get me wrong, I know not everyone has that pre-...\forget the word/ gene to addiction as I do) I would like to notify you, or anyone else who may be wondering, that these is a good non-narcotic medication(?) For add/adhd known as Stretara) for some, not taking or having access to a medication may end up on here taking a long time to make a point! LOL, that was about me, anyway,
HAIL SATAN!!!
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From: Brian Gibbons <briangibbons20@
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Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:39:09 -0800 (PST)
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Let me add my 2 cents to this post about drugs too.I feel that drugs are helpful,and you should use then within reason.My case in point is,my brain lacked a severe amount of serotonin,so my doctor prescribed prozac,for a six month period.Now I know there have been a lot of bad things said about that one,but after six months,I was taken off of it,and it has helped me considerably.So I think,that some drugs can be beneficial when used the correct way.Just thought I would share my experience. Drugs can be beneficial,abuse of them is not.
Hail Satan
Brian







From: "eremoslukos8@" <eremoslukos8@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?





As I'm sure you know, adderal is an amphetamine, speed. I've had my time with this medication and can say absolutely NO! If prescribed, take as directed. I won't say not to take it at all as I also have been diagnosed as adhd and it can be helpful. But once you cross that line it can be very difficult to come back and your brain chemistry will be altered to where your not "normal" without it. Some may not understand, but this is to you and if you have to ask you most likely already know the answer.
HAIL SATAN!!!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


From: Andre Wilson <darthxilon@
Sender: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:54:47 -0800
To: <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
ReplyTo: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: RE: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




do not use any drugs as a meditation boost. recreational, whatever, other than that, NOES





To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
From: munchiegore@
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 03:49:50 +0000
Subject: [JoS4adults] Would adderal be okay to use recreationally?




I'm prescribed to a very low dose of adderal but it helps me focus when i do power meditations and stuff like that. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to keep taking it occasionally for recreational use or if i should just stop taking it. It is a drug, yes, but it doesn't get me high so...?

IN NOMINE DEI NOSTRI SATANAS, LUCIFERI EXCELSI!

Hail Father Satan!