Why is it bad to open chakras in the reverse order? from the base chakra

[sinbad]

I didn't do it in this way, but I'd like to be able to explain to friends the mechanics behind why it is dangerous and what issues it causes.

A lot of places online tell you to open the base chakra first and go up, which i recall being one of the main causes as to why many end up in the psych ward.

Why exactly does this happen? Why is that order dangerous? And why is it better to start with the third eye?

 

[Dragonheart666]

You can open your chakras either way.. Can't you?

 

[HellGate]

Why exactly does this happen? Why is that order dangerous? And why is it better to start with the third eye?

You can put these facts up:

It's much safer to start upwards then end downwards due to the fact that the kundalini is in reverse order going from base to crown, meaning that if you have an open base chakra and blocked 2nd then the energy cannot go through the sacral and this generates heat.

I doubt anyone would awaken their Kundalini with new age practices, much less ascend it, however if one manages to do so and the other chakras are not open and energy is not able to circulate freely then Gods forbid what can happen, with pain being the least of what could be. When the kundalini ascends, it's supposed to be a very transformative experience, not one that sends you to the mental asylum and let's hope no one gets to know firsthand what delusions those who are without would experience as a consequence.

We are supposed to start from the feminine chakras then open the masculine ones; electric and magnetic - you could explain that they are differentials that complement the other side like Yin/Yang - dark having a small light circle which points that it shares Yang characters and vice versa.

Moreover, it's easy to open the uppers at the beginning and they help the person with meditation once opened. The Third Eye is an extension of the Sixth and thus it would appear logical that the 6th should then be opened.

You could mention chakra breathing exercises within the discussion, and see a way in which you can point to this. Appear wise with facts that support what you say.

If that does not work, then you can't convince the other party unless you come up with something. If they don't listen, then they are just ignorant of what is good.

I'm writing this while somewhat busy, so excuse me if I haven't been able to put other arguments in. Hope you will succeed.

 

[sahasraraBliss666]

I didn't do it in this way, but I'd like to be able to explain to friends the mechanics behind why it is dangerous and what issues it causes.

A lot of places online tell you to open the base chakra first and go up, which i recall being one of the main causes as to why many end up in the psych ward.

Why exactly does this happen? Why is that order dangerous? And why is it better to start with the third eye?

It is dangerous to start with the base chakra first. The kundalini serpent energy will not ascend as you have not opened up the chakras above the base so where would it ascend to if the person doesn’t have his higher chakras opened ?
It will be the person who will be able to tell what kind of life threatening situation did he put himself into after following that advice, if he would remain sane after all what he has done.

You can open your chakras either way.. Can't you?

You shouldn’t if you do then read my reply above.It is dangerous for you to open your base chakra without opening higher chakras first

 

[sinbad]

You can open your chakras either way.. Can't you?

The order in which you open your chakras is definitely relevant, and can lead to some negative consequences and/or delays in advancement if done in an improper fashion, which is why the wrong order is oft promoted in mainstream spirituality circles.

 

[Invictvs]

Why exactly does this happen? Why is that order dangerous? And why is it better to start with the third eye?

Isn't it obvious? The base chakra is where the kundalini resides and activating it first can cause it to rise prematurely and cause major pain and mental illness as it tries to rise through the closed/blocked chakras. The other chakras need to be open and healthy first in order for the kundalini to rise safely, without causing any problems.

 

[sinbad]

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From what I can tell, it appears as though the chakras almost function on a [positive-and-negative] magnetic axis? And have you ever heard of "spontaneous human combustion"? I believe this is what happens to a few people who try to ascend too soon, or without removing their psychological issues and/or inhibitions. I recall reading in a PDF by HPHC that there was an old woman who "burst into flames" because she underestimated the power of something of such a divine force and magnitude; that being the kundalini.

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But assuming they are all opened, and then the Kundalini attempts to raise - why does this still cause issues?

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Well, most people would assume it is logical to go "in order" from base to crown, as that is the path anything takes when it wants to "ascend".

 

[HellGate]

From what I can tell, it appears as though the chakras almost function on a [positive-and-negative] magnetic axis? And have you ever heard of "spontaneous human combustion"? I believe this is what happens to a few people who try to ascend too soon, or without removing their psychological issues and/or inhibitions. I recall reading in a PDF by HPHC that there was an old woman who "burst into flames" because she underestimated the power of something of such a divine force and magnitude; that being the kundalini.

Yes, I have heard of that phenomenon; however, I wasn't able to find something informative on that subject a year ago when I dedicated time to it.
It does make sense, though, as the kundalini generates heat. Even awakening it produces feelings of extreme warmth, so that's a rational thought.

I believe the chakras shouldn't be toyed with, and thus one could burst into flames if not ready; misunderstanding them leads to self-destruction. Perhaps this could result in burning the base chakra, which is associated with heat; thus, it would also burn the body. I'm not sure about the spiritual effects of this, but they could be devastating. If it wouldn't burn them, it would certainly lead to insanity and depravity.

Chakras are designed by nature to work in union with each other, complementing the abilities and powers of the former. There is a reason why our soul's power is called bioelectricity. It's heat, and thus it could lead to self-imposed flames if not careful. We can determine that this is the case by comparing the chakras to electrical sockets; faulty ones lead to burning. I will give this more thought once I'm more advanced, as wisdom is correlated with advancement and the acquisition of knowledge - the application of both these intertwined elements.

It bothers me that many sermons have been taken down with the removal of Yahoo Groups; I'm sure there was much more information there, especially regarding the functions of the kundalini and the effects of misusing the meditations.

As for the PDF, I haven't seen it. I'll see if I can find it. It's high time I researched some things within the library as well.

 

[Henu the Great]

What's more likely and realistic is that the nervous system overloads and you become numb and dumb, go insane, or in extremely extreme cases, die. Flames erupting is not something very realistic.

 

[sinbad]

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I thought everything got transferred over into the JoS Library? You're telling me there's still a whole load of stuff missing?

What's more likely and realistic is that the nervous system overloads and you become numb and dumb, go insane, or in extremely extreme cases, die. Flames erupting is not something very realistic.

I swear I saw something about an old lady going up in flames and her husband dying as a result of toxic exposure, but this is all I can find at the moment: Disrespect_on_the_Kundalini.pdf

I might've just seen it on a YouTube video or something and made the connection, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a link.

 

[Dragonheart666]

Okay THANK YOU for explaining this! AND YES i heard about human combustion before and it ain't pretty.

 

[Dragonheart666]

How is everyone doing tonight?

 

[sinbad]

Kundalini energy needs the upper chakras to be open first so it has its opening ready, because it's too fast to wait on us to open the gate while it's ascending, and when it hits the knot/blockage in the chakra, it causes the heat?
I've had a frightful experience with immense heat generating from my base when I was new.

Does it just have a mind of its own? It seems strange that it would mess around with a beginner.

 

[HPS Lydia]

Does it just have a mind of its own? It seems strange that it would mess around with a beginner.

It's not that the kundalini has a mind of its own, it's that if we mess around with things we don't know about, we pay the price. As an example, we've had members do wrong elements into wrong chakras and had severe consequences. If you take a knife and cut your body, you get a scar. Same thing with our spiritual aspects, we need to know what we are doing, and do the best thing in the best way for us.

For opening the chakras, go in the order on the JoS. To empower them after they are open, any direction is fine.

 

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[sinbad]

It's not that the kundalini has a mind of its own, it's that if we mess around with things we don't know about, we pay the price. As an example, we've had members do wrong elements into wrong chakras and had severe consequences. If you take a knife and cut your body, you get a scar. Same thing with our spiritual aspects, we need to know what we are doing, and do the best thing in the best way for us.

For opening the chakras, go in the order on the JoS. To empower them after they are open, any direction is fine.

I see. I guess because they cannot see the immediate physical consequences of their actions they're less likely to assume they're there.

And one thing I was confused about is that the order on the JoS website and the order in the 40-day meditation program is different in regards to the 6th chakra. Is it because the 6th chakra takes a longer duration of time to open that it was left at the end of the program - going beyond the 40 days? And is this order less than ideal? What does it change?

 

[Dragonheart666]

Well if I'm going to do things I might as well do them right. Especially when it's Kundalini breathing exercise. ️

 

[Ælberiigor]

I didn't do it in this way, but I'd like to be able to explain to friends the mechanics behind why it is dangerous and what issues it causes.

A lot of places online tell you to open the base chakra first and go up, which i recall being one of the main causes as to why many end up in the psych ward.

Why exactly does this happen? Why is that order dangerous? And why is it better to start with the third eye?

I just started the program few weeks ago.
After few days to work on the third eyes followed by few days on the coronal, I worked on the base because I misunderstood the program :

I felt an energy ascend in my back staying blocked at middle course, like when you risk to block your back and must stop your activity.
The next day, without doing nothing, the energy continuing to push upward was blocked between my shoulders blades.
The next day I felt better but my back was stretched - one of my vertebrae suck since decades.

After that, I've conscientiously worked on the heart, solar, chacral to unblock my vertebraes.
The lowermost chakras convey heaviest part of our energy, the uppermost ones must be open to permit to this energy to circulate, like events.
Today, my back is already more or less stretched

 

[sinbad]

The lowermost chakras convey heaviest part of our energy, the uppermost ones must be open to permit to this energy to circulate

This is very interesting. So all the biggest "powerhouses" of the soul reside in the lower chakras?

 

[Ælberiigor]

This is very interesting. So all the biggest "powerhouses" of the soul reside in the lower chakras?

Not exactly. I read on jos that the two strongest are the solar then the 6th.

I'd say that lower chakras are nearest the "mechanic forces" and low instincts, and the higher are subtle and spiritual oriented (clairvoyance...)
Note that the heart is neutral, but permits to the energy to flow in the arms.

I'm not sufficiently experienced to give you a definitive answer, I've just read many stuff during the last 15 years.