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The Phantom Stranger

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If law of reciprocity is true then shouldn't people pleasers get back kindness? Like you get what you give so, you should get back kindness right? Yet we hear about people who've given their all to their partner or friends or family and get screwed over. Why?
 
The Phantom Stranger said:
If law of reciprocity is true then shouldn't people pleasers get back kindness? Like you get what you give so, you should get back kindness right? Yet we hear about people who've given their all to their partner or friends or family and get screwed over. Why?

In this case, that means there is negative karma on the Venusian/fairness aspect, or other synastry obstacles, of either this person or those who they deal with, which prevents the even exchange of energy between partners and leads to people getting abused.

The law of reciprocity is defined by Venus, as people would normally love those who love them, and reciprocate this. However, like everything in the universe, this can be violated as a result of degeneration, leading to unhappiness and resentment, and possibly a backlash of some kind.

Justice has to be enforced. The universe may expose a criminal in a way, but we still have to do something about it. Karnonnos elaborated on this recently, with the point being that karma doesn't always work in an immediate fashion.

Karma relates to cause and effect. A person who does something wrong invites negativity because people may turn on them, but if the victim themselves has karma pertaining to being weak, then they will also suffer from that as well. These are two separate points of karma, although related.
 
The world is a rough place for limitless and with no boundaries love, empathy, and so on. One needs to know when, where and with whom to use these, and better yet involve these attributes of the soul that are beautiful, creative, and purposeful forces in life. Creating and building.

Do not let anyone disengage you from loving life and people, but know that the return will not come always, and sometimes you'll receive the opposite. You do this for your soul, people alike, and Gods, your satisfaction and desire, not to receive back by expectation as you'll find either way a better reward internally.

As long as there is a fundamental understanding of how life works, and the drives and psychology of people, you should never be influenced to not be loving and empathic. But rather grow the other side as well, and learn the opposite in as much for your safety, survival, balance, and advancement.

Not all people can deserve you, and you can still serve them, yet to a degree.

In regards to the love life of people, disappointments, and tragedies, there are always things to ponder suffering and pessimism about in this world. To a degree and I will sound horrible, each of them and us, have a choice and a naturally deserved outcome of everything that happens. Look inwardly for responsibility so then you have the power to change.
 
NakedPluto said:
The world is a rough place for limitless and with no boundaries love, empathy, and so on. One needs to know when, where and with whom to use these, and better yet involve these attributes of the soul that are beautiful, creative, and purposeful forces in life. Creating and building.

Do not let anyone disengage you from loving life and people, but know that the return will not come always, and sometimes you'll receive the opposite. You do this for your soul, people alike, and Gods, your satisfaction and desire, not to receive back by expectation as you'll find either way a better reward internally.

As long as there is a fundamental understanding of how life works, and the drives and psychology of people, you should never be influenced to not be loving and empathic. But rather grow the other side as well, and learn the opposite in as much for your safety, survival, balance, and advancement.

Not all people can deserve you, and you can still serve them, yet to a degree.

In regards to the love life of people, disappointments, and tragedies, there are always things to ponder suffering and pessimism about in this world. To a degree and I will sound horrible, each of them and us, have a choice and a naturally deserved outcome of everything that happens. Look inwardly for responsibility so then you have the power to change.

This is very succinct, and I’m glad I read this. Thank you for an insightful post brother/sister in our true Gods!
 
The Phantom Stranger said:
If law of reciprocity is true then shouldn't people pleasers get back kindness? Like you get what you give so, you should get back kindness right? Yet we hear about people who've given their all to their partner or friends or family and get screwed over. Why?

Simply put, the universe can't just be made up of kind and lovely weaklings and lambs such as the endless people xianity molds. For example, the West is so wonderfully kind and giving... and the way things are going, it is dying. HP Cobra elaborated on this before.

The West is also erring horribly in its pursuit of tolerating endless parasites out of 'love' and 'tolerance'. Without the Mars and Saturn factors to kick some people into shape, none of us would be talking here. We would be like the 'perfect' people in Zardoz. So in some ways, the whole immigration thing is a logical consequence of our inaction.

R3d Dawn-tier psychopaths who wreck other Gentiles for no reason are one thing, but sometimes it's absolutely unavoidable that one has to step on somebody else's feelings to exist - because you simply cannot please everyone. There will always be people out there who will be ready to go at your neck the moment you stop being bland or want to manipulate you into being placid for tens of billions of reasons.

Self-interested Mars and Saturn factors are highly missing in Western men, disappearing rapidly since the 1960s. Due to cancel culture and other psychopathic mob developments, the Solar kind of energy in men that deals with being unapologetically who one is is also shrinking, compared to the childish type of Solar energy that deals with... playing Nintendo and being a clown so one doesn't offend.

We men of the West might crinkle our noses at a lot of the nastier elements of the past such as lynch mobs and genuine misogyny, but Western men are also anaesthetized and castrated beyond belief.

One can talk about Jim Crow mobs all day, but where are the mobs of White men to string up the foreign scum who rape their own teenage girls? Nowhere. Probably watching Netflix. And indeed, partially this is excusable, due to White cuck judges who themselves make the penalties extremely severe.

But these kinds of men who enact retribution on a racial level can't really exist without honing their capacity for violence, and yes, stepping on others by not 'people pleasing'. And that is not to tolerate the worst types of criminals, cartel members, hypocrites and pigs who go over the mark into being civilization-wrecking hyper-violent parasites, but it is what it is.

I said this before, but one has to also contemplate the innate cruelty of dropping someone who was a brutal soldier in many lifetimes and very much not a 'people pleaser' into a lifetime where he is expected to act like a blushing maiden and tolerate mobs of ingrates barking 'privilege' at him. It isn't 'dindu nuffins', but it is food for thought.

Past a certain point, pleasing others, 'love' and 'tolerance' can be a mask for cowardice. This toleration also creates aberrations, cruelty and resentment in abundance, perhaps moreso than in societies with outright aggression like, say, Chechnya or something. The amount of cruelty, hatred and endless jealousy the average left-wing twitterer vomits out on a daily basis towards their 'oppressors' is really hideous. A tweet is 12 times more likely to go viral if it is blaming some 'privileged' group for something.

As Blitzkreig said, Venus may deal with love and the reciprocative principle, but it also deals with mental discrimination, exceptional things and separating the wheat from the chaff on the higher octaves, which is one of the reasons Saturn is exalted in Libra. Venus is also meant to learn from Mars and vice versa.

But Venus manipulated into jesus christ the 'morning star', who accepts the worst criminals and scum with open arms under the guise of endless love, while levelling everybody into a borg, is a very UGLY form of Venus. And many people pleasers due to this abuse of Venus lack the knowledge that people are highly different, that you can't tolerate injustices, that giving the worthless endless attention ruins society, etc. and this is part of their own karma that can wreck society collectively just as much as criminal acts can...
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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The Phantom Stranger said:
If law of reciprocity is true then shouldn't people pleasers get back kindness? Like you get what you give so, you should get back kindness right? Yet we hear about people who've given their all to their partner or friends or family and get screwed over. Why?

In this case, that means there is negative karma on the Venusian/fairness aspect, or other synastry obstacles, of either this person or those who they deal with, which prevents the even exchange of energy between partners and leads to people getting abused.

The law of reciprocity is defined by Venus, as people would normally love those who love them, and reciprocate this. However, like everything in the universe, this can be violated as a result of degeneration, leading to unhappiness and resentment, and possibly a backlash of some kind.

Justice has to be enforced. The universe may expose a criminal in a way, but we still have to do something about it. Karnonnos elaborated on this recently, with the point being that karma doesn't always work in an immediate fashion.

Karma relates to cause and effect. A person who does something wrong invites negativity because people may turn on them, but if the victim themselves has karma pertaining to being weak, then they will also suffer from that as well. These are two separate points of karma, although related.

Thanks bro.  I have joined the army also bro by starting FRTR! How you doin btw
 
Blitzkreig [JG said:
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The Phantom Stranger said:
If law of reciprocity is true then shouldn't people pleasers get back kindness? Like you get what you give so, you should get back kindness right? Yet we hear about people who've given their all to their partner or friends or family and get screwed over. Why?

In this case, that means there is negative karma on the Venusian/fairness aspect, or other synastry obstacles, of either this person or those who they deal with, which prevents the even exchange of energy between partners and leads to people getting abused.

The law of reciprocity is defined by Venus, as people would normally love those who love them, and reciprocate this. However, like everything in the universe, this can be violated as a result of degeneration, leading to unhappiness and resentment, and possibly a backlash of some kind.

Justice has to be enforced. The universe may expose a criminal in a way, but we still have to do something about it. Karnonnos elaborated on this recently, with the point being that karma doesn't always work in an immediate fashion.

Karma relates to cause and effect. A person who does something wrong invites negativity because people may turn on them, but if the victim themselves has karma pertaining to being weak, then they will also suffer from that as well. These are two separate points of karma, although related.

This applies to violence and war also? Like as we engage in war does that mean that because we give destruction we will get that back too? Is that why defense is more important than offense?
 

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