What is your opinion on Neoplatonism?

[Luzebel]

I was wondering what is the SS point of view on Neoplatonism? The general consensus here seems to be that the universe has always existed, the information was given to H.P Maxine by Lilith. Most scientists believed the universe had always existed before the jews came up with the big bangstein. This is also the information I got from the Gods, I thought I was just making up my ideal reality but it does look like the universe is made this way. And somewhat ''triangular'' in shape?

Anyways many people hold Platonism and Neoplatonism in high esteem. I think that this philosophy gives the most logical description of what a source would be like. Nothing like the jew god of the bible, it is not really a deity but more like a spiritual mechanism of some sort. Now the neoplatonic thought believes that the monad is outside of the universe, because it emits it through a projection of shapes.

It makes no sense to me that something precedes the universe. Also, I do not think that Plato has seen the one emit shapes, I don't believe he saw the spiritual hierarchy either. He experienced Samahdi which he interpreted his own way... because Samahdi has been interpreted differently in various belief systems, because it is so much nothing despite being everything that it could be anything and it would be both true and false. If you get what I mean that is.

It seems like the Platonic belief system was elaborated through logic... But if you think about it, we can elaborate all sorts of contradicting belief systems with logic. We add our own personal lore into the top and we have a religion. I respect Platonism/Neoplatonism, as a belief system I find it better than many religions. But it still strikes me as something totally subjective based on someone's biaised experience and brainstorming around it. The universe always existing makes much more sense in my opinion but I'd like to hear your opinions.

 

[Dragonheart666]

That's sounds pretty interesting. And I think you've hit on to something here. And you do make sense.

 

[AFODO]

Altough I don't know much about Plato yet, but usually the famous ancient Greek philosophers and scientists were very advanced spiritually and probably many ascended to Godhood. You cannot know which of them experienced what.
Also take in account that many of the text may have been corrupted and misinterpreted.

 

[Hellenic SS]

Altough I don't know much about Plato yet, but usually the famous ancient Greek philosophers and scientists were very advanced spiritually and probably many ascended to Godhood. You cannot know which of them experienced what.
Also take in account that many of the text may have been corrupted and misinterpreted.

I had a xian teacher who said that Socrates was a xian. They're doing everything to keep their weak religion alive.

 

[Bogow]

I was wondering what is the SS point of view on Neoplatonism? The general consensus here seems to be that the universe has always existed, the information was given to H.P Maxine by Lilith. Most scientists believed the universe had always existed before the jews came up with the big bangstein. This is also the information I got from the Gods, I thought I was just making up my ideal reality but it does look like the universe is made this way. And somewhat ''triangular'' in shape?

Anyways many people hold Platonism and Neoplatonism in high esteem. I think that this philosophy gives the most logical description of what a source would be like. Nothing like the jew god of the bible, it is not really a deity but more like a spiritual mechanism of some sort. Now the neoplatonic thought believes that the monad is outside of the universe, because it emits it through a projection of shapes.

It makes no sense to me that something precedes the universe. Also, I do not think that Plato has seen the one emit shapes, I don't believe he saw the spiritual hierarchy either. He experienced Samahdi which he interpreted his own way... because Samahdi has been interpreted differently in various belief systems, because it is so much nothing despite being everything that it could be anything and it would be both true and false. If you get what I mean that is.

It seems like the Platonic belief system was elaborated through logic... But if you think about it, we can elaborate all sorts of contradicting belief systems with logic. We add our own personal lore into the top and we have a religion. I respect Platonism/Neoplatonism, as a belief system I find it better than many religions. But it still strikes me as something totally subjective based on someone's biaised experience and brainstorming around it. The universe always existing makes much more sense in my opinion but I'd like to hear your opinions.

My opinion about Neo-Platonism is that it is basically pagan knowledge in itself. As the High Priest wrote, many ancient philosophers were magicians with a very high level of training, as well as advanced knowledge about the soul and the universe.

The fact that modern (((historians))) very often confuse concepts and try to give us the impression of the isolation of different schools of thought in ancient times is generally an understandable tactic. It is important for them to confuse the cards for you, to make you believe that in ancient times the situation was as complicated as it is now, and that people walked in the dark among a huge number of sects, each of which proclaimed its own truth, similar to what is happening now with enemy-abrahamism.

In fact, different directions were created for different levels of practitioners and all aimed at achieving the same level of understanding of reality or Gnosis. The higher layers were directly related to the Magnum Opus.

The enemy took those elements of the teaching about Plato that were not directly related to the nature of the Gods, and were, as it were, “impersonal” and turned his “world of ideas” into the “kingdom of God.” The substitution of concepts in this process is obvious. Further, they also took the idea of the Monad as the root cause of creation, and called it Yahweh.

Neoplatonists developed original ideas as a way to explain the world in the turbulent time of antiquity, when the power of christian and jewish destructive sects was high. Much has been preserved precisely because christianity borrowed many philosophical concepts from Plato. Neoplatonists could practice these things relatively safely without fear of being killed like other pagan initiates of that time.

Ultimately, we now have a lot of lies about this, since many of the root texts have been lost. Some works refer to others (lost) as obvious things for that time, and in the absence of these foundations we see only part of the picture.

 

[Luzebel]

The thing that irks me, is that Platonism/Neoplatonism would be very different today if the authors were still alive. They would have adapted the system to current day knowledge. I doubt for example that the concept of a demiurge would have been preserved, given what we have discovered about evolution and physics (meaning that a demiurge creator-deity is not required). This is why I'm doubtful, these systems are a product of their time when people did not know everything we know today about the deeper workings of the universe.

 

[Luzebel]

And by deeper workings I'm really talking about the physical stuff, not the spiritual/metaphysical stuff.

 

[Yurei]

Neoplatonism was a major influence on Christian theology throughout Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages in the East, and sometimes in the West as well. In the East, major Greek Fathers like Basil, Gregory of Nyssa and Gregory of Nazianzus were influenced by Platonism and Neoplatonism, but also Stoicism often leading towards asceticism and harsh treatment of the body, for example stylite asceticism. In the West, St. Augustine of Hippo was influenced by the early Neoplatonists Plotinus and Porphyry. Later on, in the East, the works of the Christian writer Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite, who was influenced by later Neoplatonists such as Proclus and Damascius, became a critical work on which Greek church fathers based their theology, like Maximus believing it was an original work of Dionysius the Areopagite.