[WARNING] IN THE FUTURE YOU MAY NOT HAVE A JOB

[tabby]

Have you heard of the saying "give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime"?

UBI is basically the equivalent of giving a man a fish instead of teaching him to fish. No one would need to have a UBI if they had skills which the enemy is systematically trying to breed out of people with pushing white collar work and machine labor.

Yeah and in the modern work world, you teach a man to fish, force him to fish for 8-12 hours a day, then at the end of the day you take everything he produced as profits for yourself and give him a single fish tail for him to feed his family with.

What is your point, tabby?

Are you talking about the sweat shops in China? Or the average Joe working day to day in a white country?

I work 8-12 hours a day on spirituality. I get paid with my soul advancing and my life improving. No one is forcing me to do that, and I get my due. Translate that sequence into a material job situation and you won't need UBI because people's work will be rewarded properly, providing them the livelihoods one needs to live a better life. This is what happened in Germany, competition in labor and such wasn't taken away, it was significantly improved, and the kikes were kicked out of their systems that kept tearing it down. Women who had labored to bring children into the world were compensated by having their house paid off. It wasn't just given to them because "everyone needs their basic necessities, so they have a right to them by default" - no, they earned it.

You're not even saying about this being implemented in the "modern world" because you've admitted a UBI would go to shit under kike rule, so you've said it should be implemented after-the-fact. You're basing your theory of a UBI working purely on a system that has been artificially created by the enemy. A lot of people have been conditioned to think work = slavery, its only like that when you don't receive what your labor truly is equal to in reward or have your due stolen from you again and again. When the enemy goes, that will go too.

After the jews have been removed from power, we won't need UBI, because the artificially created ways won't be forced on everyone from the enemy sticking its disgusting tongue down society's throat all the damn time. Man's labor and work and skill will be given its proper due without the enemy taking it from them.

Why implement "solution" to a problem that has been solved and there's no longer a need for it? That doesn't make any sense.

That is the point you're missing.

I personally think you just have a really strong issue with those who have richer lives than yourself, and how right now it's a bit freaking difficult to get higher and that makes you overly salty. But you know what, it's not impossible. We have the Gods and magick, and if a person has the will to make their life better and make their own work actually give them proper reward you can make that happen with the tools given to us here. As for everyone else in the world, we are helping them by doing spiritual warfare. Sorry things aren't moving fast enough for you to be treated like a King and have people serve you, because I'm starting to think after seeing the course of your arguments even from that other thread where you were complaining about bimbos being able to get lots of money from ticktock taking away the job opportunities of decent honest artists and whatever to now insisting that a UBI is the way to solve an artificial financial crisis, saying that because we're not agreeing with you oh we must not be understanding you/listening to you, that's how things are starting to sound like with your arguments.

Ok, but your ubi would work in your hypothetical future, in our hypotethical future it would would not work as you just described.

Yeah, it will be a total disaster initially. But I personally think this is due to the fact jews are still running the show and will push it to the negative extreme, and not the concept itself.

I think under gentile administration, especially under Satanic administration, this can and will work itself out in a positive way.

Why would a Satanic society deny people being taught independence and strong will?

I know a few people who are on disability income, you can think of that as your modern UBI almost. You know what they tell me? "I don't want to be on this, but it's not like I have a choice. I want to be out in society and have a career." If they could work, they would.

People want to earn their bread. You can't use people's anger and suffering from a system that's been corrupted by the enemy to justify a faulty argument that people don't want to work. You tell us not to look at UBI with the lens that it's automatically a jewish idea, maybe you should do the same for current society and labor.

 

[Artifergolem]

I think this isn't going to happen the way the enemy thinks it's going to happen. Anyone who's ever worked with robots knows this:
1. Robots are expensive to design, build, and maintain.
2. Most companies are too lazy/dumb to maintain their robots.
3. If a robot breaks, it will not work.
4. Robots need people, but people do not necessarily need robots.

AI is probably the same way: expensive to maintain and upkeep. If things keep going south, there won't be any extra money lying around for the enemy to bring AI to fruition.

 

[pacharica]

Have you heard of the saying "give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime"?

UBI is basically the equivalent of giving a man a fish instead of teaching him to fish. No one would need to have a UBI if they had skills which the enemy is systematically trying to breed out of people with pushing white collar work and machine labor.

Yeah and in the modern work world, you teach a man to fish, force him to fish for 8-12 hours a day, then at the end of the day you take everything he produced as profits for yourself and give him a single fish tail for him to feed his family with.

What is your point, tabby?

Are you talking about the sweat shops in China? Or the average Joe working day to day in a white country?

I work 8-12 hours a day on spirituality. I get paid with my soul advancing and my life improving. No one is forcing me to do that, and I get my due. Translate that sequence into a material job situation and you won't need UBI because people's work will be rewarded properly, providing them the livelihoods one needs to live a better life. This is what happened in Germany, competition in labor and such wasn't taken away, it was significantly improved, and the kikes were kicked out of their systems that kept tearing it down. Women who had labored to bring children into the world were compensated by having their house paid off. It wasn't just given to them because "everyone needs their basic necessities, so they have a right to them by default" - no, they earned it.

You're not even saying about this being implemented in the "modern world" because you've admitted a UBI would go to shit under kike rule, so you've said it should be implemented after-the-fact. You're basing your theory of a UBI working purely on a system that has been artificially created by the enemy. A lot of people have been conditioned to think work = slavery, its only like that when you don't receive what your labor truly is equal to in reward or have your due stolen from you again and again. When the enemy goes, that will go too.

After the jews have been removed from power, we won't need UBI, because the artificially created ways won't be forced on everyone from the enemy sticking its disgusting tongue down society's throat all the damn time. Man's labor and work and skill will be given its proper due without the enemy taking it from them.

Why implement "solution" to a problem that has been solved and there's no longer a need for it? That doesn't make any sense.

That is the point you're missing.

I personally think you just have a really strong issue with those who have richer lives than yourself, and how right now it's a bit freaking difficult to get higher and that makes you overly salty. But you know what, it's not impossible. We have the Gods and magick, and if a person has the will to make their life better and make their own work actually give them proper reward you can make that happen with the tools given to us here. As for everyone else in the world, we are helping them by doing spiritual warfare. Sorry things aren't moving fast enough for you to be treated like a King and have people serve you, because I'm starting to think after seeing the course of your arguments even from that other thread where you were complaining about bimbos being able to get lots of money from ticktock taking away the job opportunities of decent honest artists and whatever to now insisting that a UBI is the way to solve an artificial financial crisis, saying that because we're not agreeing with you oh we must not be understanding you/listening to you, that's how things are starting to sound like with your arguments.

Ok, but your ubi would work in your hypothetical future, in our hypotethical future it would would not work as you just described.

Yeah, it will be a total disaster initially. But I personally think this is due to the fact jews are still running the show and will push it to the negative extreme, and not the concept itself.

I think under gentile administration, especially under Satanic administration, this can and will work itself out in a positive way.

Why would a Satanic society deny people being taught independence and strong will?

I know a few people who are on disability income, you can think of that as your modern UBI almost. You know what they tell me? "I don't want to be on this, but it's not like I have a choice. I want to be out in society and have a career." If they could work, they would.

People want to earn their bread. You can't use people's anger and suffering from a system that's been corrupted by the enemy to justify a faulty argument that people don't want to work. You tell us not to look at UBI with the lens that it's automatically a jewish idea, maybe you should do the same for current society and labor.

As someone on disability my whole life,I totally agree.however that is also because it is not a living income,you cannot have a decent or even mediocre life on it,but only poverty without the abject part of it.

but working in a typical job is a juice who is not worth the squeeze so to say,for most people.

unless we implement genetic engineering,people who have high enough Iqs to work good jobs will be a small minority.

The problem is also not capitalism,but lack of economic freedom and the way the jewish money works,taxes and finance capitalism a jewish invention.

capitalism is way more progressive than feudalism or hunter gathering or subsistence farming.

escaping the 'rat race'is possible,but people are greedy and status conscious.

land can be bought in some rural areas for less than 14k a acre.

A okay sized Mongolian Yurt costs 5000 dollars.A adobe house costs a bit more than that,but still way more affordable to build than a house on the real estate market.

both types of homes are naturally warm in winter and cool in the summer.

a compost bathroom is relatively cheap.

rain catchers and filter systems are not expensive,and a good investment.

 

[Dahaarkan]

Are you talking about the sweat shops in China? Or the average Joe working day to day in a white country?

I work 8-12 hours a day on spirituality. I get paid with my soul advancing and my life improving. No one is forcing me to do that, and I get my due. Translate that sequence into a material job situation and you won't need UBI because people's work will be rewarded properly, providing them the livelihoods one needs to live a better life.

And therein lies the real issue; you are doing fine and therefore there isn't a problem. But just because in the microcosm of your personal life there isn't an issue doesn't mean the rest of the world is in the same situation. Most people work themselves to death and can't even afford to own a home. So you pretending that this system is better somehow is totally disconnected from reality.

This is either due to a lack of awareness or total apathy to the miserable situation of billions of people, some of which are even SS but ashamed to speak about their situations.


Irrespective of what you think or feel as I've told you this will happen and you cannot stop it. Automation is inevitable and you will need a solution to it, which so far UBI seems the only solution. UBI is the solution I'm proposing for the automation "problem" which is developing and will fully bloom in the coming decades. You're just ignoring the problem for which UBI is the solution to in order to keep arguing in perpetuity.

And as I've stated numerous times UBI is not a total removal of labor but a removal of forceful labor, which for some reason you keep ignoring to continue with this pointless conversation.

It doesn't matter how many of you jump me in every thread because you cannot tolerate someone who isn't in total 100% agreement with you, if you just come to ignore all points made for the sake of argument I'm not going to concede no matter how big your gang is. This garbage way of discussing things by ignoring points made just for the sake of continuing to argue in perpetuity accomplishes nothing.

You've yet to address my points on how UBI can be used to incentivize citizens to do meaningful work to repair and maintain their nation and reward people who work hard with higher incomes and benefits, and instead continue to parrot that removing all work from the world is wrong as if I said that in the first place. I already told you how and why UBI can be used to push people to be more productive and give people a reason and motivation to work.


You like the rest of your gang are too lazy to actually read what's being said and just skim through posts then write a reply that fails to address anything that was said as a result.

You ignore anything that's said, argue against statements no one made, twist what was said to suit your arguments and ultimately just rely on numbers to intimidate others from having opinions that differ from yours. You are just more of the same.

I never suggested automating all jobs and depriving everybody of any and all work opportunities. I expanded upon this and explained how many sectors cannot and should not be automated, and how UBI can be used as a tool by the state to incentivize and motivate people to work. You ignored all of this.

 

[Dahaarkan]

And stop making assumptions on me personally. I am at a point in my life where I can quit my job and live off of my passive incomes with a minimalist lifestyle, so I can pull out of the rat race at anytime now, and I'm now just working to build up some more assets for extra income before I pull out entirely.

And it is exactly because I understand modern finance that I can tell you it's completely fucked and rigged, and why I have full confidence speaking about this.

 

[Soul Wings]

I don't think you're helping people like you think you are.
You always quote me directly with total assumptive horseshit about me and that by definition is personal harrasment. First you did it in my concern about Kanye's safety when he exposed the jews publically, by assuming I worship celebrities, and now this trash about how I don't embrace tech when I work in IT. I don't like anything I've ever read you post so don't waste your time and just leave me alone. Any future notifications from you will be ignored and disregarded in its entirety.

 

[Jrvan]

@Dahaarkan

There's one aspect which I thought of which is only one of the many possible problems, but still an important one to consider.

I think you would need crazier amounts and degrees of planned obsolescence in order to make this artificial system work indefinitely, more than we already have which is already a lot. Product innovation wouldn't solve the problem forever. If you maximize the supply with efficient AI machine labor, you also have to maximize the demand. Otherwise you can't continue funding the UBI with the method that you proposed. The whole thing depends on consumers buying the products made by AI machines (and it also makes everyone dependent on the success of the companies using the AI labor). All so that people don't have to work for their bread, which would be incredibly easy for them to earn in a society free from jews (as history has proven).

 

[Dahaarkan]

I don't think you're helping people like you think you are.
You always quote me directly with total assumptive horseshit about me and that by definition is personal harrasment. First you did it in my concern about Kanye's safety when he exposed the jews publically, by assuming I worship celebrities, and now this trash about how I don't embrace tech when I work in IT. I don't like anything I've ever read you post so don't waste your time and just leave me alone. Any future notifications from you will be ignored and disregarded in its entirety.

Well, if you still see this, I'm sorry you feel that way. The tone of my posts sometimes comes off as too personal, or as an attack, but this is not the intention.

 

[Aquarius]

People are lazy, if they could they'd do fuckall all their life if they had the money to do so. "Forced labour" as you call it is literally just keeping society intact and going forward, ubi is not a solution, the solution is paying people wages that are high enough to have everything basic like a good home and multiple children with just the husband working.

Also an opinion about yourself, you always come off as extremely hateful, arrogant, and you manage to create arguments in all of your threads, it's literally a displeasure to read what you write, I'm pretty sure you know that, but it's best you try and do better and accept the advice others give you in regards to trying to convey your points.

 

[Dahaarkan]

Also an opinion about yourself, you always come off as extremely hateful, arrogant, and you manage to create arguments in all of your threads, it's literally a displeasure to read what you write, I'm pretty sure you know that, but it's best you try and do better and accept the advice others give you in regards to trying to convey your points.

I agree.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

What events are you referring to specifically. The Natural Disasters themselves or the Jewish plans to use these Natural events to their advantage ? Because I don't believe and state repeatedly that the Jews will be unsuccessful in using these events to their advantage and that these are going to be turning points that mark their end.

I am referring to your timing here. If you believe victory will happen only after severe devastation occurs, then this is like a Pyrrhic victory. Instead of preemptively assuming hardship, keep an optimistic mindset, yet do the necessary preparation to ensure defense against the worst.

Many people assumed Covid would immediately lead to brainchips at this point in time, yet our rituals were able to muddle this. This would not have happened if we assumed that the enemy would suffer only after 50% of people got micro-chipped.

 

[serpentwalker666]

Also an opinion about yourself, you always come off as extremely hateful, arrogant, and you manage to create arguments in all of your threads, it's literally a displeasure to read what you write, I'm pretty sure you know that, but it's best you try and do better and accept the advice others give you in regards to trying to convey your points.

I agree.

One thing I've wanted to mention. I have been around and read your posts for quite awhile Dahaarkan.

What I want to say is regardless of how you come off in your posts at times unintentionally, I feel that you might benefit from maybe doing runic working or something to make it easier to converse and express what you mean differently, and less intensely.

For years I've had issues expressing things how I mean them correctly. I still do.

For example in my personal life. I sometimes end up very easily frustrated and don't handle things correctly in conversations. So I do understand in a way.

In your case it's a bit different, however maybe you get what I mean.

Perhaps even channeling these deep emotions you have into something constructive would be helpful if you aren't already.

Just sharing some of my thoughts brother. I hope to see in time you approach things a bit differently and get along a bit better with some memebers here in discussion and threads.

We all are individual and have different approaches to things. Which is understandable.

I sincerely mean this though. As you are one of the long time members I've enjoyed reading from time to time over the years, and wish you success in changing it as better communication here would be to your benefit.

 

[General Yeager]

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What events are you referring to specifically. The Natural Disasters themselves or the Jewish plans to use these Natural events to their advantage ? Because I don't believe and state repeatedly that the Jews will be unsuccessful in using these events to their advantage and that these are going to be turning points that mark their end.

I am referring to your timing here. If you believe victory will happen only after severe devastation occurs, then this is like a Pyrrhic victory. Instead of preemptively assuming hardship, keep an optimistic mindset, yet do the necessary preparation to ensure defense against the worst.

Many people assumed Covid would immediately lead to brainchips at this point in time, yet our rituals were able to muddle this. This would not have happened if we assumed that the enemy would suffer only after 50% of people got micro-chipped.

That is a difference of opinion. I believe mass devastation to be absolutely necessary in restructuring the world and bringing about the resurrection of the Sanatana Dharma. Otherwise it will take hundreds of years and humanity will be split into different factions. Mass Devastation will bring about massive changes that will facilitate the faster adoption of our worldview by the ones surviving and affected by said devastation. Society will have to be naturally restructed to what it was originally so the thinning of the herd is expected and not a shocking development. It should be seen in a positive manner for all of humanity.

 

[serpentwalker666]

" post_id=431554 time=1679323326 user_id=21286]

What events are you referring to specifically. The Natural Disasters themselves or the Jewish plans to use these Natural events to their advantage ? Because I don't believe and state repeatedly that the Jews will be unsuccessful in using these events to their advantage and that these are going to be turning points that mark their end.

I am referring to your timing here. If you believe victory will happen only after severe devastation occurs, then this is like a Pyrrhic victory. Instead of preemptively assuming hardship, keep an optimistic mindset, yet do the necessary preparation to ensure defense against the worst.

Many people assumed Covid would immediately lead to brainchips at this point in time, yet our rituals were able to muddle this. This would not have happened if we assumed that the enemy would suffer only after 50% of people got micro-chipped.

That is a difference of opinion. I believe mass devastation to be absolutely necessary in restructuring the world and bringing about the resurrection of the Sanatana Dharma. Otherwise it will take hundreds of years and humanity will be split into different factions. Mass Devastation will bring about massive changes that will facilitate the faster adoption of our worldview by the ones surviving and affected by said devastation. Society will have to be naturally restructed to what it was originally so the thinning of the herd is expected and not a shocking development. It should be seen in a positive manner for all of humanity.

The reality here is you should be a bit more positive and optimistic in regards to how changes will take place before the satya yuga is ushered in.

Certainly their may be some seriously dangerous changes and circumstances with the shuft intk this from the kali yuga, however just full on expecting mass devastation of our world as a "positive" thing for "positive change" is something you should spend some time to reflect on why this isn't okay.

You should meditate on Father Satan or Beelzebul and politely ask them to share with you a better perspective in regards to looking at this properly instead of something where you think that devastation is absolutely necessary for massive change.

We are Satanists, and Satanism in general is a life path where all of us here would want to AVOID AT ALL COSTS any sort of mass devastation of our world. This is why we fight the enemy in the first place.

 

[Shemsu]

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I am referring to your timing here. If you believe victory will happen only after severe devastation occurs, then this is like a Pyrrhic victory. Instead of preemptively assuming hardship, keep an optimistic mindset, yet do the necessary preparation to ensure defense against the worst.

Many people assumed Covid would immediately lead to brainchips at this point in time, yet our rituals were able to muddle this. This would not have happened if we assumed that the enemy would suffer only after 50% of people got micro-chipped.

That is a difference of opinion. I believe mass devastation to be absolutely necessary in restructuring the world and bringing about the resurrection of the Sanatana Dharma. Otherwise it will take hundreds of years and humanity will be split into different factions. Mass Devastation will bring about massive changes that will facilitate the faster adoption of our worldview by the ones surviving and affected by said devastation. Society will have to be naturally restructed to what it was originally so the thinning of the herd is expected and not a shocking development. It should be seen in a positive manner for all of humanity.

The reality here is you should be a bit more positive and optimistic in regards to how changes will take place before the satya yuga is ushered in.

Certainly their may be some seriously dangerous changes and circumstances with the shuft intk this from the kali yuga, however just full on expecting mass devastation of our world as a "positive" thing for "positive change" is something you should spend some time to reflect on why this isn't okay.

You should meditate on Father Satan or Beelzebul and politely ask them to share with you a better perspective in regards to looking at this properly instead of something where you think that devastation is absolutely necessary for massive change.

We are Satanists, and Satanism in general is a life path where all of us here would want to AVOID AT ALL COSTS any sort of mass devastation of our world. This is why we fight the enemy in the first place.

Sorry to barge in like this.

Fear and perception filtered by external factors that exist to balance the universal creative and positive energy or its mirror image if you will, are what used to make me believe that the destruction of everything is unavoidable. I know now that there is a way to go through this transition without all of that. We have to work for it though. Restoring the balance that has been gravely offset will allow for the evolution of our species without the terrible scenarios that someone wants to impose.

Jack, I feel you but please consider the possibility of the opposite happening. It is up to us which reality manifests.

Respectfully, my 2c

 

[serpentwalker666]

That is a difference of opinion. I believe mass devastation to be absolutely necessary in restructuring the world and bringing about the resurrection of the Sanatana Dharma. Otherwise it will take hundreds of years and humanity will be split into different factions. Mass Devastation will bring about massive changes that will facilitate the faster adoption of our worldview by the ones surviving and affected by said devastation. Society will have to be naturally restructed to what it was originally so the thinning of the herd is expected and not a shocking development. It should be seen in a positive manner for all of humanity.

The reality here is you should be a bit more positive and optimistic in regards to how changes will take place before the satya yuga is ushered in.

Certainly their may be some seriously dangerous changes and circumstances with the shuft intk this from the kali yuga, however just full on expecting mass devastation of our world as a "positive" thing for "positive change" is something you should spend some time to reflect on why this isn't okay.

You should meditate on Father Satan or Beelzebul and politely ask them to share with you a better perspective in regards to looking at this properly instead of something where you think that devastation is absolutely necessary for massive change.

We are Satanists, and Satanism in general is a life path where all of us here would want to AVOID AT ALL COSTS any sort of mass devastation of our world. This is why we fight the enemy in the first place.

Sorry to barge in like this.

Fear and perception filtered by external factors that exist to balance the universal creative and positive energy or its mirror image if you will, are what used to make me believe that the destruction of everything is unavoidable. I know now that there is a way to go through this transition without all of that. We have to work for it though. Restoring the balance that has been gravely offset will allow for the evolution of our species without the terrible scenarios that someone wants to impose.

Jack, I feel you but please consider the possibility of the opposite happening. It is up to us which reality manifests.

Respectfully, my 2c

I appreciate your input on this.

I feel that yes, that their may be serious issues in between the transition from the Kali yuga and Satya yuga, and you definitely have good points in that this is being actively formed and we shape this in a way.

Ultimately i just feel taking the black pill in this case about mass devastation being "inevitable" is not in anyone's best interest to keep on their mind, which is why I chimed in here.

I mean this out of utmost respect towards Jack as well.