Engineered Trasformation said:
Gear88 said:
In a way yes, albeit I sympathize as I'm not against technology but technology has changed so much I barely know how to use it. Not that I grew up without it, just it doesn't feel intuitive at times. Plus I'd like to see more development of training tools to teach people how to use it. For example a debit/credit card not how to save money or credit but literally how to use it.
Shemsu said:
Hi, if I may offer my 2c. As a primitive person that doesn't have social media, doesn't use a computer and almost none of the high tech of today, I still try to keep myself informed and connected to the happenings in the world. It would be a mistake to detach yourself from the benefits that AI could offer if it is done out of fear. If you have no use for it in the way of life that you've chosen than there is nothing extreme about it. True strength doesn't run from temptation and has no fear whatsoever.
SWP
Thanks to both for taking the time to answer.
The point is, I am not that primitive towards technology, I used to like and understand technological progress quite well. The more tech advances, the more it is becoming intrusive and manipulative (too many apps for anything, etc.), the more I feel like I want to stay far from this vortex. It's an emerging feeling, like my mind is sort of fed up with that.
I live without any social network, I now use a PC once a week or less, but I still find many informations on the web, buy online, etc. through mobile.
The data mining and classification, registration, identification part is really annoying. Like google now calculates how many people are present in a facility, or how many cars in a street, suggesting detours that most of empty NPC follow without thinking, so they barely know where they are driving to. This is the destructive vortex I want to stay far from.
The point is, my mind is now unreceptive to tech developments and - while I still understand part of that - and I also work with electronic means - I am emotionally detached from this "tech vortex" like - yes - I use it (the less I can) but I am emotionally cold toward tech. I do not even like or dislike it, it's like eating for absorbing nutrients without feeling any taste. Seems like, I had too much.
Also I am not that young so possibly aging does not help, as older people tend to be less receptive to new skills. I feel uncofortable learning new tech skills.
I see people slowly becoming drones, possibly I fear this so I enacted sort of protective behaviour.
As a general comment, my 2cents, I think an extremely tech society would repress the female mind too much, while boosting the male logical emisphere. I mean, rather than using your
intuition and feelings, better using AI. Same as mobile phones took over telepathy as a form of communication (caused by spiritual regress on the jews' account) that I believe should have happened in this end if the age of Pisces.
So I think my mind wants to stay far from this, and reacting from inside, this way.
I see you have my situation. I use a computer all the time, multiple times per day. And I know how to use it less than when I used it in the past.
Once I left High School I began to grow more so extremely bored with my life even if I was already bored going to school, after school my boredom compounded further. I wasn't a heavy internet user, albeit, my friend was.
I began to rapidly dig down and search around with the computer anything and everything a lot of gaming, mouse, CRT vs LCD monitors, video games etc.etc.
I even played a small amount of video games for hours on end. Such as Guild Wars for 12-15 hours daily. Or one time about a year before I quit gaming, I've spent the last exact 10 years since late-2012-early-2013 completely gameless. I spent 18 almost 19 hours straight playing Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory.
My gaming days are behind me and yet whenever my friend suggest play a game even if it's silly for silly fun. As my friend is dedicated but understands sometimes we need fun in life or even silly fun, for example it's stupid as an adult to play like a child even if you were to have a child. But you gotta compromise your adultness and maturity to help the child. I see way too many people treating children like shit or ignoring them and teaching them NPC stuff.
But he did state at least get a cheapy game or download a game on steam or something. He doesn't use his computer in that way cause the last time he upgraded his computer was in 2004-2005 time period. My PC is from 2007, so our dinosaur of computers are too old for many modern games. He just plays PS5 that belongs to his brother but his brother barely uses it.
So he states just enjoy yourself. Unfortunately when I go to steam or any online or off-line retailer. It's like I have to grab my head with my hands and be like "OMFG what do I do know?!?!". There's literally not just a billion games and a billion genres but within each genre there's a billion games of that type.
Unfortunately the game market is ultra-/super- saturated. Companies routinely lock down their games and IP. They don't allow modding; partial or total conversions. In fact the name of the game is berg and stein money from DLC and other updates.
Just the other day Street Fighter 6 is due to come out. Awful too flashy and too gimmicky. Everyone states SF3 and a smaller amount SF2 Turbo(30fps vs 60fps) are the best Street Fighter games even if people complain about Makoto and expansion characters.
Still I'm at a loss. Technology wise I'm sorta like a 1990s person with a small bit of tech. I grew up with the revolution of tech. And it seems people are just spreading stupidity and retardation. For example I don't know how to drive without GPS I ALWAYS hated driving. I'm not like Hitler who relished driving and probably realized this is the future and this will only compound. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if Hitler thought every person of certain age needs cars so families have multiple cars, for Jr's and Sr's.
But I'm not like that never liked cars anyways. But I can't drive without GPS, my intuitive nature doesn't allow me to know the directions you say this direction is West or North West and it feels odd like "really?". For example smartphone wise I only picked up a smartphone in 2019 after the entire revolutionary aspect especially mid-2015 nearing 2016 when the iPhone 6S came out and is considered one of the greatest not just Apple phones but of all smartphones one of the best one released.
I hate smartphones I don't posses any social media or social sites. In fact while most people are just dicking around with their phone I'm just sitting there thinking, processing, and contemplating.
I grew up with computers and internet but I was more of a TV person. And even now TV is becoming a pain in the ass with passwords, smartTVs, application.
It seems smartphone, smartphone everything. Like the Buzz lightyear meme.
Unfortunately or better yet fortunately I'm not involved in that lifestyle of life. I'm sure a number of people would reply you kinda gotta grab the bulls by the horn and wrestle around in that sphere of influence. But I purposefully avoid tech due to lack of training, education, and various rational and irrational attributes.
For example my family member recently said, "I paid with cash; it felt awkward". They use credit cards like the up the ass.
People are evolving too fast and too high. The master engineer is the person that can stand on technology and upgrade, downgrade, sidegrade, and crossgrade the technology.
Unfortunately humanity is too bamboozled for anything but upgrade. It seems people march the upgrade route only. I'm sure the Gods are furious that humanity is upgrading too quickly, creating and destroying equally people of various ranges. And frankly Humanity is forgetting how to build older technologies or failing to upgrade older technology to improve that older technology. And side, down -grade the technology sorta like guns how for example a .50 BMG is powerful nearly 700g bullet at largest size but a .408 Cheytac is a mini-50 that while smaller ranges down .50BMG area. It's the battle of the smaller bullet vs the bigger bullet. Eventually once hypersonic munition is found the bigger bullet will return but then the smaller bullet also reigns through.
In essence I have spent the last few years just living technology in my mind. Many of my contemplations and thoughts are intuitive, intellectual perusing of data. Back between leaving high school and right up to 2013-2014 or so. I would spend countless hours researching stuff. Many times I'd spend like 12-15 hours reading and searching. I once spent like 7+ hours on google and dogpile trying to understand CRT vs LCD monitor in a more in depth way.
Sadly it was all a waste of time. I'm not a scientist, I'm not a researcher, I'm not a reader, I'm not a person who makes notes of their reading material and digest a book while putting down bulletpoints and research paragraphs and quotes. I'm not a professional, I'm not a PH.D, I'm not a educated person of a higher degree.
I'm merely a person that has no life and just devours information and just simply remembers stuff in an intuitive or intellectual manner but without paying attention. Sheer fact is it's one reason why I never bothered to join any forums. Even joining A-Forums bothered me and I regret coming here and regret making posts.
Sheer fact is technology is a burden and it's too much. Even though I can cram and download stuff into my mind in a psychotic manner. When it comes to actually going out and doing it, that's another story. Yeah enter username, password simple it starts simple then complexifies too much.
And we are just getting started sheer fact is I see myself for the rest of my life. Stuck in a tech vacuum whereby without training and education a simulation if you will. I'm gonna not bother with tech.
Sheer fact is there is too much tech, too much overt logical actions, and too much of one individual thing. For example you want to play an FPS game there's a few monopoly AAA games, but other than those searching around and diving around there's a MYRIAD of FPS games and mods to boot.
Sheer fact is the World has moved to a place whereby I just don't feel comfortable nor educated enough to take advantage. It's like if I had my way with life; I'd still be without a smartphone and without my drivers license.
In essence someone might state how the hell did you pass through the area without a license and smartphone. And I'll just reply well first of all life sucks and is a worthless piece of shit. And two I don't want those things. I'm against that why would I do it.
I wouldn't be surprised if I would eventually get in trouble and then have to have those things.
Funny a small cult of people are downgrading or side-grading or downramp-grading form smartphones ios, android down to dumberphones like a razr or some other flipphone or even the Nokia tank phone.
To me technology is becoming a burden and becoming a liability in life. You need it but I don't want it.
I agree with you Engineer Transformation, your not a bad person, you seem like a 1970s-1980s person who wants technology but only at certain moments. Although I don't know when you were born looking at old shows from the 60s-70s-80s it seems like technology for people is just limited.
I'm not into limiting technology. I want the best of the best. I just don't like upgradatus infinitum. Infinite upgrade, berg and stein technology.
Unfortunately up, down, side, and cross -grading technology is the name of the game and it has an infinite ramp up and ramp down and side ramp.
Sheer fact is technology is important. But Humans can't deal with it. I don't even want to know how people who are masters of technology handle technology.
One of my biggest issues is I tend to overcomplicated things and go overly detailed. As my posts are and pigeonhole myself without pre-basic, basic, intermediate, and even advanced information overcomplicating things.
I know many will state tech is simple I use it anyone can use it even my elder family can use it.
But I always posses this abstraction layer in my existence of it's too much and I stopped giving a shit about it a long time ago.
Unfortunately for all the tech I've been involved with. I'm merely a mental upgradist.
I spend countless hours upgrading and adding new information to tech. I'm surprised there isn't an NS society with think-tanks helping tech and society. I'd probably be a Doctor or Habilitation in think-tank technologies upgrading it and making up, down, side, and cross -grading technology.
Like I said in my rambling above. I'm not against tech but leave me out of it. Even if I live a very primitive mentally intense lifestyle. For me growing up it was just TV and the few console game systems I possessed. Sheer fact is tech bothers me deeply it's all too much, too overwhelming, it's just too much. I can't handle it.
I'm now older not that old in fact people confuse me for younger person. But once I left school and once I lived as an adult. Tech became a burden and a factor of too heavy. What I knew how to do with tech 10 years ago during my gaming, research period is much different than now. Right now it's more of I want to do something but I need tech to move reality.
Unfortunately mankind tech'd up to tech is too important not to move reality. Reality even taking a walk around the block to digest food or simply relax a bit requires a smartphone or some tech to accompany you or else a situation occurs.
It's like smartphones, it's too ubiquitous not to use. Even little kids who are in pre-K or K or elementary understand the need for a smartphone.
Regardless of all the above. I'm kinda done with tech and it's like when I use tech it's like my mind becomes a blank and intuits it using some sort of blanking filter, some sort of alpha or trance like use. And the more I use tech the more I realize unless I build a habit or use it blank minded. Logically speaking my mind isn't speaking or concocting visions for the use of tech. Rather I use it more as an ingrained pattern rather than logically speaking around.
Funny my astro chart states either a brilliant, logical person or a person with a deep emotional, intuitive aspect. But never both or one or the other. Simply I use tech in a blank manner. It's like when I play video games it's always blank minded and kinda like suspended animation of thoughtstream and simply not paying attention to the game. Merely playing it in some trance or alternative state of mind. I'm not a logical person who seems to kinda use their mind like a computer. I've tried to educate myself to be a computer. And it's a violation of my operating system my mind is too intuitive and too feminine to be a robot.
Even if I feel like a robot and my mind acts like one. Almost like a chasing it's tail of logical illogic thoughts to seem logical. As you can see my entire forum post and posts I've ever posted are just the mad ramblings of a dedicated Satanist who never gained the capacity to meditate. I'm more into the politics rather than spirituality. Would I like to meditate well and be altered and understand sure. But that isn't for me, in fact I'd be lying to myself if I carried a spiritual journey. But politics wise I can be very understanding of that.
It's similar to what my friend emailed me recently. He said back in the prior decade once we left high school and began to communicate through email. Particularly before your mental health breakdown, you became very atheistic in fact your emails were rants and ramblings on how nothing of meditation nor JoS nor even it's philosophy and our time studying WW2 throughout the 90s and 00s as we grew up as little kids to teens and to adults diving WW2. Never accomplished nor helped nor did anything. He literally said I became much more atheistic in fact he was like you respect JoS and NS but you literally said non of it ever helped you.
You had your mental health breakdown and double/triple down on meditation. And then in emails later in 2016 and later you continued meditation even if it did zero to you, he's like literally every email left me with a sense that meditation doesn't work and he's like your trying to develop meditation to a person who never experienced a thing nor generates anything.
So throughout leaving high school, the prior decade, and the current decade. Tech and reality is merely all bullshit. I'm pretty much living like my youth in the 90s with some technologies and the technology is slightly more advanced than in the past.
But other than that I just go through life and that is it.