Spiritual Satanism vs. Luciferianism

[Lucifigus]

Hi! What is the difference between Spiritual Satanism and Luciferianism?

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

Luciferianism uses non-traditional tools from the Middle Ages.
Like the Kabala and the qlipot, in the Jewish context.

Practically, Luciferianism is pseudo-Satanism and most of its "sacred" symbols are Jewish representations of what the occult is.

Like the baphomet made by Levi

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

Technically there isn’t.

However there are other “Satanist” groups. Most are atheistic and see Satan as a symbolic rebellion against religion, mainly xianity, which is “true” in a way but their “rebellion” only emboldens xians as they tend to be degenerates.

There are some theistic Satanic groups and they have various ideas about Satan and the Gods. The JOS however is the only group that has fully explained the origin imo of paganism, the history behind it and so on.

“Luciferian” is a vague term and usually used by xians to describe elites who want to “play God” and turn into “gods” using technology. Some groups also use that name, using Lucifer as a symbol while others see him as real, again various ideas.

Then there are theories Lucifer and Satan are different entities but i don’t buy that, there’s no real evidence the names ever reffered to seperate beings.

These groups though usually tend to be dark/degenerate and then end up destroying themselves, as jews intend through the qliphothic path they end up following as without proper guidance from the Gods, they are still technically under the Abrahamic hierarchy and have thrown themselves into the mental trap pit built by the jews.

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

I also suggest u read this:

https://satanslibrary.org/English/HP_Hooded_Cobra/The_Qlippothic_Kabbalah_-_High_Priest_Hooded_Cobra_666.pdf

 

[Luzebel]

Luciferianism uses non-traditional tools from the Middle Ages.
Like the Kabala and the qlipot, in the Jewish context.

Practically, Luciferianism is pseudo-Satanism and most of its "sacred" symbols are Jewish representations of what the occult is.

Like the baphomet made by Levi

What kind of nonsense is that?

 

[AFODO]

Lucifer is Satan, so the JoS should bear these names such as Satanism, Luciferianism, Paganism, Hellenism, and everything else, but we don't live in an ideal world and these things doesn't mean anything. We the Joy of Satan is the real thing here, the others out there are fakes. People who says they are Luciferians or Satanists, they aren't. These sects out there who call themselves the left hand path, Luciferians, and so on, has nothing to do with the actual path, with Satan and the Gods.

This is the difference, they are fake and we are original, but ideally these names should mean our path, but they don't currently.

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

What kind of nonsense is that?

That's kind of basic knowledge, sir.
Luciferianism is qlipot and operates in the Jewish context.
Luciferianism is an amalgam of very bad magic systems.

I'm sorry if you're offended because you like Luciferianism.
But I'd like to know what's traditional about it?

Absolutely nothing!

 

[Luzebel]

That's kind of basic knowledge, sir.
Luciferianism is qlipot and operates in the Jewish context.
Luciferianism is an amalgam of very bad magic systems.

I'm sorry if you're offended because you like Luciferianism.
But I'd like to know what's traditional about it?

Absolutely nothing!

Is this knowledge you got from Alex Jones and other people who dance with rabbis? Is Lucifer a Jewish name? Is Lucifer a hebrew deity? Who was Lucifer? One of the emblems of Rome, alongside Venus. What do the jews hate more than the Gods of edom, especially the God of Light of Edom? Do yourself a favor and stop spouting complete nonsense out of your ass.

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

Is this knowledge you got from Alex Jones and other people who dance with rabbis? Is Lucifer a Jewish name? Is Lucifer a hebrew deity? Who was Lucifer? One of the emblems of Rome, alongside Venus. What do the jews hate more than the Gods of edom, especially the God of Light of Edom? Do yourself a favor and stop spouting complete nonsense out of your ass.

Haahahhhha You're crazy LoL

 

[Luzebel]

Haahahhhha You're crazy LoL

Yes I'm crazy, but that's not the point. Tell me where does it state that Luciferianism incorporates Qlippoth or any kind of Jewish nonsense. Edgelord authors like Michael Ford don't apply. Lucifer is a european god, whoever incorporates jewish crap into it is not practicing Luciferianism at all, it's just plain logic.

 

[Ĥl·lĥæ]

Yes I'm crazy, but that's not the point. Tell me where does it state that Luciferianism incorporates Qlippoth or any kind of Jewish nonsense. Edgelord authors like Michael Ford don't apply. Lucifer is a european god, whoever incorporates jewish crap into it is not practicing Luciferianism at all, it's just plain logic.

I understood your comments perfectly.
Your point is that Luciferianism is traditional, because a few groups believe in it as a Roman God, yes! I fully understand that

The point is that the overwhelming majority of the time their type of magic is geared towards Jewish things, even if there is still the knowledge of the Venusian God, they still take seriously many symbols desecrated by the Jews.

And, clearly like any """gnostic""" group, their tools are shit
Focused on Kabalistic numerology and "demonolatry" rituals with circles and thousands of utensils to "protect" the sacred Gods.

Tell me about any organization that uses Latin or that is even remotely decent, so I can just use the enochan and I'll remember those too when I talk about them.

 

[Luzebel]

The point is that the overwhelming majority of the time their type of magic is geared towards Jewish things, even if there is still the knowledge of the Venusian God, they still take seriously many symbols desecrated by the Jews.

Give me examples. Who are they? How do you know it's the majority of time?

 

[Luzebel]

The majority of them*

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

Anything not Spiritual Satanism from Joy Of Satanas that brands as "satanism" is just a Jewish ploy of playing a propaganda larping move and creating points of control and destabilization at public image level. There is no versus here, but only us and enemies.

 

[logicalmind]

Around the internet, there are various shills. Such as this one who says he promotes "Luciferianism": https://www.youtube.com/@morgueofficial . This is the case what HPHC666 has talked about. Some people might try pushing shit like "jewsus was Lucifer", "vatican was Satanic", etc.

Joy of Satanas is the real community here. And the Gods are here. Everyone who takes this path somewhat seriously and practices on a consistent basis should have experienced this already, and in time experiences should be more intensive and obvious. This is because everyone here works for the empowerment of each human. Each individual, each family, each race, and the whole of humanity.

If jews would be around long enough in the future, they would start spreading shit like "Hitler was the jewsus reincarnation". They will do anything and everything in order to keep humans hooked to their lies, so they would have even tiniest fractures they can use against humanity.

 

[Sindweller]

Edgelord authors like Michael Ford don't apply.

If you exclude Michael W. Ford (who is the most popular "Luciferian" author) the rest are even worse. They are "gnostic" Lucifer-is-Christ and Satan-is-Jehovah types who tell Spiritual Satanists to stop using the name "Satan" because we're unknowingly calling upon Yahweh if we do. You can't claim that they are Pagans as they operate entirely within the jewish/christian dualistic framework, even using a contradiction in their bible to prove Satan is jehova (the one in the old testament where in one book it says "god did this" and in another "Satan did this" as if supposedly proves that Satan is jehova and not being merely one of the hundreds of contradictions that exist there). They fail to see that the name Satan is used by the jews to slander the chief Pagan God and it predates the jews as it's in Ancient Sanskrit, they even use the jewish meaning of the word Satan and tell us "it means enemy, how do you worship the enemy of humanity?" without realizing that Gentiles don't speak Kike, so enemy in Kike merely means enemy of the Kikes, not of everyone.

I've argued with many "Luciferians" and they all use a variation of the above arguments.

 

[Viego]

Hi! What is the difference between Spiritual Satanism and Luciferianism?

The difference is that Spiritual Satan[ism] is the most purest Satanism there it is , no doubt and question about it.
It is the most Official and Direct link with the God's ,also +1 to JG NakedPluto.

There is no other more purest Satanism then this and no other path closer to Satan and God's themselves. Here we do not sell lies , the meditations and workings provided here are working wonderfully , everyone who will try to deviate you from your own mind and power within then it's not a true Satanist and just a person who try to use shortcuts and excuses for not advancing and use the TRUE POWER which is our own minds and energy within , directed just trough the thoughts no other wicca shit needed.