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Lohengrin

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greetings to all brothers/sisters,
I'm new and I’ve recently been on this path and several questions arise, I hope someone can clarify my ideas.

The first is: I have enourmous respect of the gods, but if the gods are advanced and evolved beings why should we give them energy? I understand they are our teachers but,
Don't they have enough energy on their own? They have spaceships, technology and so on but they need us? It seems absurd to me, it seems to me rather that we serve them and not them to us, (I'm not a troll, I'm seriously curious).

the other question always concerns the gods,
we too are potentially like them,
science has proven that our consciousness can manifest siddhis or powers such as foresight, expanded knowledge and so on and also that we are the entire universe, so why do we need external gods? can't we do it alone?

The last doubt, in ancient texts there is everywhere talk of animal sacrifices, even Greek and Roman historians talk about it or ancient poets, how is it possible?

Thanks in advance to hps or everyone who will gently respond
 
Hs666 said:
Read the jos, please, you are very confused.

Read here:
https://satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html

thank you, but i’m not confused, I read the entire site and the library, simply saying "Judaism/Christianity have corrupted everything" is an unlogical answer, I know well that they did certain things, but the site doesn't answer questions one and two, but not even to the third, it is very difficult that all the ancient texts have all been rewritten, how could a people who appeared a few thousand years ago than us be able to infiltrate hundreds of different cultures and rewrite their texts even on the islands? these traditions are handed down for millennia, taking into account that priests also passed down the practices orally?
This is why I asked for in-depth answers, I only asked for a discussion with those who are wiser and have more knowledge than me
 
Lohengrin said:
thank you, but i’m not confused, I read the entire site and the library, simply saying "Judaism/Christianity have corrupted everything" is an unlogical answer, I know well that they did certain things, but the site doesn't answer questions one and two, but not even to the third, it is very difficult that all the ancient texts have all been rewritten, how could a people who appeared a few thousand years ago than us be able to infiltrate hundreds of different cultures and rewrite their texts even on the islands? these traditions are handed down for millennia, taking into account that priests also passed down the practices orally?

This message is proof that you actually did not read. Or rather you have only read, but not understood. Read it all over again and again. Take your time. The answers are all there. I don't have time to give you the whole "sermon" also because it's already there.
 
Hs666 said:
This message is proof that you actually did not read. Or rather you have only read, but not understood. Read it all over again and again. Take your time. The answers are all there. I don't have time to give you the whole "sermon" also because it's already there.

He's right, those questions are not answered in JoS. If you disagree, find me the parts where they specifically address these questions and quote them here. It's better instead of insulting people who ask these questions to not reply at all and leave them to someone else.

Lohengrin said:
The first is: I have enourmous respect of the gods, but if the gods are advanced and evolved beings why should we give them energy? I understand they are our teachers but,
Don't they have enough energy on their own? They have spaceships, technology and so on but they need us? It seems absurd to me, it seems to me rather that we serve them and not them to us, (I'm not a troll, I'm seriously curious).

They do have enough energy of their own. People give them energy as a token of gratitude, not because the Gods need it. It's just like offering someone a gift for something they did for you.

Lohengrin said:
the other question always concerns the gods,
we too are potentially like them,
science has proven that our consciousness can manifest siddhis or powers such as foresight, expanded knowledge and so on and also that we are the entire universe, so why do we need external gods? can't we do it alone?

We also have latent musical and mathematical abilities. Why do we need to learn how to do math or play music in schools in universities? Why do we need professors and teachers?

It's the same thing as the Gods. We don't know how to awaken these abilities, because they have been dormant for a long time. We need someone to teach us. The Gods have already awakened these abilities and use on a daily basis, so they can teach us how to become like them. All those advanced meditations and teachings in JoS that help us become spritually stronger came with the help of the Gods.

The JoS also says that when you advance far in the occult and develop your abilities, you'll come to the attention of advanced beings who will feel threatened by your advancement so you'll be attacked a lot. For this reason, we do need protection, and this comes from Satan and the Gods. I've seen advanced occultists who weren't aligned with Satan had terrible things happen to them from enemy attacks, the mild ones being aging prematurely and losing their hair.

Most people I encounter come from Christianity and want to worship Satan like the Christian god and aren't interested in things like chakras and meditation. You seem to take to the other extreme where you're saying that we should use the knowledge that came from the Gods without acknowledging them at all. Both extreme viewpoints are harmful for your progress.

Lohengrin said:
The last doubt, in ancient texts there is everywhere talk of animal sacrifices, even Greek and Roman historians talk about it or ancient poets, how is it possible?

Most "sacrifices" could be better described as "ritual feasts". Greek and roman "sacrifices" were just like that, they just did a ritual to a specific god to offer an animal they slaughtered before they ate it. There were ritual executions of criminals that Christians twisted and claimed they were "human sacrifices".

Lohengrin said:
how could a people who appeared a few thousand years ago than us be able to infiltrate hundreds of different cultures and rewrite their texts even on the islands?

It's not just humans, there are enemy alien beings who are behind the enemy programs. There were non-Christian cultures who were in contact with such beings. For example, the Aztecs were corrupted by such enemy beings and started performing human sacrifices in the 15th century. They had the same apocalyptic beliefs like Christianity, as they believed they were delaying the end of the world by offering gruesome human sacrifices.
 
Invictvs said:
Hs666 said:
This message is proof that you actually did not read. Or rather you have only read, but not understood. Read it all over again and again. Take your time. The answers are all there. I don't have time to give you the whole "sermon" also because it's already there.

He's right, those questions are not answered in JoS. If you disagree, find me the parts where they specifically address these questions and quote them here. It's better instead of insulting people who ask these questions to not reply at all and leave them to someone else.

Lohengrin said:
The first is: I have enourmous respect of the gods, but if the gods are advanced and evolved beings why should we give them energy? I understand they are our teachers but,
Don't they have enough energy on their own? They have spaceships, technology and so on but they need us? It seems absurd to me, it seems to me rather that we serve them and not them to us, (I'm not a troll, I'm seriously curious).

They do have enough energy of their own. People give them energy as a token of gratitude, not because the Gods need it. It's just like offering someone a gift for something they did for you.

Lohengrin said:
the other question always concerns the gods,
we too are potentially like them,
science has proven that our consciousness can manifest siddhis or powers such as foresight, expanded knowledge and so on and also that we are the entire universe, so why do we need external gods? can't we do it alone?

We also have latent musical and mathematical abilities. Why do we need to learn how to do math or play music in schools in universities? Why do we need professors and teachers?

It's the same thing as the Gods. We don't know how to awaken these abilities, because they have been dormant for a long time. We need someone to teach us. The Gods have already awakened these abilities and use on a daily basis, so they can teach us how to become like them. All those advanced meditations and teachings in JoS that help us become spritually stronger came with the help of the Gods.

The JoS also says that when you advance far in the occult and develop your abilities, you'll come to the attention of advanced beings who will feel threatened by your advancement so you'll be attacked a lot. For this reason, we do need protection, and this comes from Satan and the Gods. I've seen advanced occultists who weren't aligned with Satan had terrible things happen to them from enemy attacks, the mild ones being aging prematurely and losing their hair.

Most people I encounter come from Christianity and want to worship Satan like the Christian god and aren't interested in things like chakras and meditation. You seem to take to the other extreme where you're saying that we should use the knowledge that came from the Gods without acknowledging them at all. Both extreme viewpoints are harmful for your progress.

Lohengrin said:
The last doubt, in ancient texts there is everywhere talk of animal sacrifices, even Greek and Roman historians talk about it or ancient poets, how is it possible?

Most "sacrifices" could be better described as "ritual feasts". Greek and roman "sacrifices" were just like that, they just did a ritual to a specific god to offer an animal they slaughtered before they ate it. There were ritual executions of criminals that Christians twisted and claimed they were "human sacrifices".

Lohengrin said:
how could a people who appeared a few thousand years ago than us be able to infiltrate hundreds of different cultures and rewrite their texts even on the islands?

It's not just humans, there are enemy alien beings who are behind the enemy programs. There were non-Christian cultures who were in contact with such beings. For example, the Aztecs were corrupted by such enemy beings and started performing human sacrifices in the 15th century. They had the same apocalyptic beliefs like Christianity, as they believed they were delaying the end of the world by offering gruesome human sacrifices.

Thanks everyone for the replies, now I have clearer ideas

regarding the last statements it is true, I had read that the Tuatha de Danaan, the Celtic gods when they came to Ireland eliminated human sacrifices replacing them with offerings of fruit and flowers and giving humans knowledge
 
Lohengrin said:
greetings to all brothers/sisters,
I'm new and I’ve recently been on this path and several questions arise, I hope someone can clarify my ideas.

The first is: I have enourmous respect of the gods, but if the gods are advanced and evolved beings why should we give them energy? I understand they are our teachers but,
Don't they have enough energy on their own? They have spaceships, technology and so on but they need us? It seems absurd to me, it seems to me rather that we serve them and not them to us, (I'm not a troll, I'm seriously curious).

the other question always concerns the gods,
we too are potentially like them,
science has proven that our consciousness can manifest siddhis or powers such as foresight, expanded knowledge and so on and also that we are the entire universe, so why do we need external gods? can't we do it alone?

The last doubt, in ancient texts there is everywhere talk of animal sacrifices, even Greek and Roman historians talk about it or ancient poets, how is it possible?

Thanks in advance to hps or everyone who will gently respond


Hi :)

As Invictvs said giving energy to the Gods through our sacrifices is a form of gratitude and respect, it also helps us getting closer to them, simplifying contact.

We could also advance alone through our path, but the reaching of certain goals or understandings would be objectively slower. It's like you want to learn a specific language alone, you can do it but having the privilege of native language teachers would really facilitate and quicken the learning process.

Ancient gentile civilization practiced animal sacrifice as a form of devotion to the Great Gods for very different reasons. Animals were killed in a quick and painless way and with great respect (as they represented the Gods) and then eaten for sustenance. I can totally understand why the JoS "demonizes" animal sacrifice, but the fact that this practice was a fundamental part of our Gentile Tradition is undeniable. Today there is no need to sacrifice animals as most people don't hunt or get food directly from Nature anymore, so a lot of Satanists show to the Gods their love and devotion by other forms of "sacrifices" (energy, poems, prayers, fruit and flowers, efforts to improve themselves... all things that were also done in the past). If someone (these people are uncommon but there are some) doesn't go to markets or stores but has his own farm or small piece of land and makes from his own animals his source of food, it wouldn't be an outrage to sacrifice them to the Gods, offering them the souls of the animals, before cooking and eating them. I honestly think that this would be a more respectful and satanic way of living, non incentivizing animal lobbies that really torture and slaughter our sacred animals without respect for their souls and identity. I understand this is something hard to achieve nowdays
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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