FuerstDerFinsternis
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I do not direct my criticism at individuals, but merely question a certain worldview and historical actions from the past. This engagement arises from a desire for objective discussion and understanding, without any insults or condemnations. My aim is to consider complex topics in a nuanced way and openly question responsibility for past actions in order to foster constructive dialogue.
I question and criticize the worldview of Jewish perspectives, but I am open to being enlightened otherwise. Non-Jews are referred to as "Goy" or "Goyim" (pronounced: Goy, plural: Goyim), which originally meant "people" but gradually evolved into meaning "non-Jew." Therefore, non-Jews are called this, and the word carries a derogatory connotation, as I personally feel. I conducted a test with a friend and unexpectedly called him "Goy," to which he instinctively asked me, annoyed, what it meant. I don't like it, and I would find this word derogatory if someone used it on me—it just sounds derogatory to me.
"Nekhar" was also a term used to describe a non-Jew. The word resembles another term that is familiar to all of us.
Why, according to the religion, is a Jewish woman not allowed to marry a non-Jewish man? Answers like "It's feared that the religion will be lost" or "tradition" do not change the fact that this is discriminatory. So why?!
Why is only Europe blamed for the transatlantic slave trade? Why not everyone, including the Jews? Why does no one feel guilty about this and talk about it? Everyone was responsible, right?
We like to look beyond our own perspective, because we are decent people. We are searching for the truth, aren’t we?
It is important to me, especially for jews, to know that these Jewish historical figures, under the guise of "Europeans," were in fact Jewish. I ask them how they feel about this because they know they were Jewish. Being Jewish is not just an ethnicity but also a religion – so it does concern them in some way. They are a community, and a community sticks together.
I want to know what they think about the fact that these Jewish Europeans I listed were involved in the transatlantic slave trade. We sometimes say "German-Turks," and just as easily, I can say "Jewish-Europeans.
Source (that Jews were also guilty):
"New World Jewry, 1493-1825," book by Seymour B. Liebman,
or
"Judaism and Slavery," book by Jürgen Rahf, GRIN Verlag, 2013.
In the 17th and 18th centuries, especially in Portuguese and Dutch colonies, some Jewish merchants and traders were active in the transatlantic trade, including the slave trade. These Jewish traders owned ships that were used for the transportation of goods and people, including slaves. The mention of "Jewish crews and captains" suggests that there were Jewish businessmen who not only owned merchant ships but were also actively involved in the shipping and transportation industry.
Big names among them include: Aaron Lopez, Isaac Da Costa, David Franks, Jacob Franks, Mordecai Gomez, and the list goes on.
Only God knows the true number of slaves they actually owned.
The victors write history. Whether it is stated differently in other history books or questioned by certain studies is beside the point, as any studies on this topic lack solid evidence, and thus the reader must decide for themselves what is true. But the most decent thing is simply to say that everyone was somewhat responsible... However, I have never heard a Jew speak about this—why not? One doesn't have to immediately play the "anti-Semitism" card. I expect answers that address my questions in substance. I expect that, if it is true, guilt would be expressed somewhere. I simply expect the truth. Criticism is criticism!
So many questions, yearning for answers... An honest and sincere person will answer these questions objectively. Let's see...
I have often seen many countries or ethnic groups blamed for this and that, and unfortunately, in my contribution, it was the Jewish ethnicity that was addressed, and I expect an answer. The truth emerges through discussion. If my contribution is removed, my questions will be of benefit to me, and I will answer them for myself as I see fit.
I do not direct my criticism at individuals, but merely question a certain worldview and historical actions from the past. This engagement arises from a desire for objective discussion and understanding, without any insults or condemnations. My aim is to consider complex topics in a nuanced way and openly question responsibility for past actions in order to foster constructive dialogue.
I question and criticize the worldview of Jewish perspectives, but I am open to being enlightened otherwise. Non-Jews are referred to as "Goy" or "Goyim" (pronounced: Goy, plural: Goyim), which originally meant "people" but gradually evolved into meaning "non-Jew." Therefore, non-Jews are called this, and the word carries a derogatory connotation, as I personally feel. I conducted a test with a friend and unexpectedly called him "Goy," to which he instinctively asked me, annoyed, what it meant. I don't like it, and I would find this word derogatory if someone used it on me—it just sounds derogatory to me.
"Nekhar" was also a term used to describe a non-Jew. The word resembles another term that is familiar to all of us.
Why, according to the religion, is a Jewish woman not allowed to marry a non-Jewish man? Answers like "It's feared that the religion will be lost" or "tradition" do not change the fact that this is discriminatory. So why?!
Why is only Europe blamed for the transatlantic slave trade? Why not everyone, including the Jews? Why does no one feel guilty about this and talk about it? Everyone was responsible, right?
We like to look beyond our own perspective, because we are decent people. We are searching for the truth, aren’t we?
It is important to me, especially for jews, to know that these Jewish historical figures, under the guise of "Europeans," were in fact Jewish. I ask them how they feel about this because they know they were Jewish. Being Jewish is not just an ethnicity but also a religion – so it does concern them in some way. They are a community, and a community sticks together.
I want to know what they think about the fact that these Jewish Europeans I listed were involved in the transatlantic slave trade. We sometimes say "German-Turks," and just as easily, I can say "Jewish-Europeans.
Source (that Jews were also guilty):
"New World Jewry, 1493-1825," book by Seymour B. Liebman,
or
"Judaism and Slavery," book by Jürgen Rahf, GRIN Verlag, 2013.
In the 17th and 18th centuries, especially in Portuguese and Dutch colonies, some Jewish merchants and traders were active in the transatlantic trade, including the slave trade. These Jewish traders owned ships that were used for the transportation of goods and people, including slaves. The mention of "Jewish crews and captains" suggests that there were Jewish businessmen who not only owned merchant ships but were also actively involved in the shipping and transportation industry.
Big names among them include: Aaron Lopez, Isaac Da Costa, David Franks, Jacob Franks, Mordecai Gomez, and the list goes on.
Only God knows the true number of slaves they actually owned.
The victors write history. Whether it is stated differently in other history books or questioned by certain studies is beside the point, as any studies on this topic lack solid evidence, and thus the reader must decide for themselves what is true. But the most decent thing is simply to say that everyone was somewhat responsible... However, I have never heard a Jew speak about this—why not? One doesn't have to immediately play the "anti-Semitism" card. I expect answers that address my questions in substance. I expect that, if it is true, guilt would be expressed somewhere. I simply expect the truth. Criticism is criticism!
So many questions, yearning for answers... An honest and sincere person will answer these questions objectively. Let's see...
I have often seen many countries or ethnic groups blamed for this and that, and unfortunately, in my contribution, it was the Jewish ethnicity that was addressed, and I expect an answer. The truth emerges through discussion. If my contribution is removed, my questions will be of benefit to me, and I will answer them for myself as I see fit.
