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[Filioautembiaboli]

Some time ago you talk in the Italian forum about how I perform vibrations.

Personally I can not do a breath for each vibration, rather I do a breath that includes up to 10 15 or 20 small vibrations (speaking of short mantras such as maum, gaum, klim ...)

I fully perceive the energy and I get results.

My chakras are perceived well, I feel the energy flowing quietly when I vibrate, even if my vibration is faster than what is considered normal.

I also asked my guardians and from what I understand it is fine, it seems to be a subjective thing the speed with which you vibrate, as long as you scan well the letters of the mantra or runes and you can also clearly lose the energy evoked or invoked through the vibration of the word of power.


Since there are only a few of us on the Italian forum, I thought I would ask here.


Basically I'm fine with this method, can I have some advice or suggestions from you?

Thanks

 

[BlackOnyx8 [JG]]

I did experiment with this, and one vibration on one breath seems to be the most powerful. However because I'm always busy and I don't have much time, I do 2 vibrations in one breath for words like RAUM or SURYA. Words like UR or VIN I can do 4. Words like VISHUDDI, SATANAS I can't do 2 because the word is too long. So those I vibrate 1 time for each breath. Its all about your lung capacity.
One longer vibration is the most effective though. The others work too, but if you have the time it would be better to do it properly.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

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Whatever you put in is what you get back, basically. The more you focus, or the more you vibrate, or the louder you vibrate, or the more accurately you vibrate, etc all means more power.

So really, we should measure energy output based on the total time spent vibrating, not the repetitions used. Some people like to go fast, others slow. I find myself somewhere in the middle. x216 to one person can mean something else to another. Obviously, this does not yet even account for individual power differences.

 

[Filioautembiaboli]

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Whatever you put in is what you get back, basically. The more you focus, or the more you vibrate, or the louder you vibrate, or the more accurately you vibrate, etc all means more power.

So really, we should measure energy output based on the total time spent vibrating, not the repetitions used. Some people like to go fast, others slow. I find myself somewhere in the middle. x216 to one person can mean something else to another. Obviously, this does not yet even account for individual power differences.

So it's just as I thought....
Starting from the base that vibrate and scanning the letters well the whole thing is more effective it always comes back to the subjective power argument

Thank you for your reply

 

[NinRick]

Some time ago you talk in the Italian forum about how I perform vibrations.

Personally I can not do a breath for each vibration, rather I do a breath that includes up to 10 15 or 20 small vibrations (speaking of short mantras such as maum, gaum, klim ...)

I fully perceive the energy and I get results.

My chakras are perceived well, I feel the energy flowing quietly when I vibrate, even if my vibration is faster than what is considered normal.

I also asked my guardians and from what I understand it is fine, it seems to be a subjective thing the speed with which you vibrate, as long as you scan well the letters of the mantra or runes and you can also clearly lose the energy evoked or invoked through the vibration of the word of power.


Since there are only a few of us on the Italian forum, I thought I would ask here.


Basically I'm fine with this method, can I have some advice or suggestions from you?

Thanks

10-20 vibrations per breath is a joke and way too fast.
Why would you do them so fast? Why can’t you just breathe in, hold in for sec, do a full and intense vibration, hold on for sec and breathe in again?

Just because you feel the energy doesn’t mean you are doing the best job, I can raise energy without any vibrations. I can meditate without any vibrations. Still proper meditation and vibration goes a longer way.

...

This is what you were referring as the „rapper syndrome“ a while back, huh?
I hope it sounds lit at least

 

[NinRick]

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Whatever you put in is what you get back, basically. The more you focus, or the more you vibrate, or the louder you vibrate, or the more accurately you vibrate, etc all means more power.

So really, we should measure energy output based on the total time spent vibrating, not the repetitions used. Some people like to go fast, others slow. I find myself somewhere in the middle. x216 to one person can mean something else to another. Obviously, this does not yet even account for individual power differences.

You need intent and focus for the best results, you need to be calm and yet be fully focused.
Longer Vibrations are better, for a full breath, where you fully focus on the individual frequencies to intensify in your chakra, and this needs some time. Even HPS Maxine told us to use one breath for one Vibration, and keep vibrating the last letter until you are out of breath, because this is the best way. Louder doesn’t mean stronger, the more you are able to tune the vibration in your chakra and give it more intensity the better.

 

[Stormblood]

The power is in the breath. So Thoth said.

The humming breath is the foundation of mantra. It is a basic pranayama you can find on the list of breathing exercises on JoS. The more drawn-out the breath is (WITHOUT STRAINING YOURSELF!)*, the more powerful is your mantra practice. Intent and focus can make up part of this, as some people who are not really ready to use mantra tend to get distracted when vibrating properly. However, in no way you can achieve with fast vibrations as much power as proper vibration done by someone is actually read for mantra (laser focus, full-on intent).

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post. It went like this, from the most powerful to the least:
:arrow: 1. Full vibrations
:arrow: 2. Fast vibrations
:arrow: 3. Whispered vibrations
:arrow: 4. Mental vibrations

Obviously, the vibration should be of the proper frequency for what you're working, and you will feel it in the specific part of the soul. If it's not the right frequency, you're doing little to nothing at all.

*Caps are necessary in this case, because I had some people in the past who needs it like, or they're going to start verbal fights just for the sake of arguing with me.

 

[Filioautembiaboli]

...

Whatever you put in is what you get back, basically. The more you focus, or the more you vibrate, or the louder you vibrate, or the more accurately you vibrate, etc all means more power.

So really, we should measure energy output based on the total time spent vibrating, not the repetitions used. Some people like to go fast, others slow. I find myself somewhere in the middle. x216 to one person can mean something else to another. Obviously, this does not yet even account for individual power differences.

You need intent and focus for the best results, you need to be calm and yet be fully focused.
Longer Vibrations are better, for a full breath, where you fully focus on the individual frequencies to intensify in your chakra, and this needs some time. Even HPS Maxine told us to use one breath for one Vibration, and keep vibrating the last letter until you are out of breath, because this is the best way. Louder doesn’t mean stronger, the more you are able to tune the vibration in your chakra and give it more intensity the better.

So, if I understand correctly, you could say that it's better to do 100 slow and precise vibrations (example) rather than 666 vibrations as I'm doing these days?

 

[NinRick]

Whatever you put in is what you get back, basically. The more you focus, or the more you vibrate, or the louder you vibrate, or the more accurately you vibrate, etc all means more power.

So really, we should measure energy output based on the total time spent vibrating, not the repetitions used. Some people like to go fast, others slow. I find myself somewhere in the middle. x216 to one person can mean something else to another. Obviously, this does not yet even account for individual power differences.

You need intent and focus for the best results, you need to be calm and yet be fully focused.
Longer Vibrations are better, for a full breath, where you fully focus on the individual frequencies to intensify in your chakra, and this needs some time. Even HPS Maxine told us to use one breath for one Vibration, and keep vibrating the last letter until you are out of breath, because this is the best way. Louder doesn’t mean stronger, the more you are able to tune the vibration in your chakra and give it more intensity the better.

So, if I understand correctly, you could say that it's better to do 100 slow and precise vibrations (example) rather than 666 vibrations as I'm doing these days?

I personally do not count the amount of vibrations I do, I just do them and give my best to intensify the energy in my chakras, but yes, I am saying it is better to do the vibrations the proper way.

 

[BlackOnyx8 [JG]]

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post.

This one?
Different Methods Of Doing the RTR's - Answered Question

Basically, yes.

However, as has been stated before, all of these methods are going to work:

1. Vibrated in literal chant, drawn out words. Works.
2. Vibrated very little in spoken way, very short vibrations. Works.
3. Doing it in the way HPS Maxine does in the audios, in a sense, uttering it. Works.
4. Whispering it. Works.
5. Saying it mentally with intent and visualization. Works.

I know there are some reasons why the differences here may not be really clear, but I will articulate all of these in posts in the actual JoS. All of this are different levels of action but work based on the same major rules. There are many things that need to be cleared up.

I have done ALL of the above under different circumstances, with the impact being as it should be on each.

However, the two methods that stand out is method 1 and 3. Methods 1 and 3 for this ritual are really powerful, and give out maximum output.

In regards to the others, 4 and 5, for the lack of the technique, you can compensate with mental focus, visualization, and force of will. They can become equal to 1, 2 and 3, just because of this addition.

2 is also very handy and powerful, combining shorter time, and the benefits of 1 and 3. The reason why vibrations are to be stretched, can help your mental focus while you strecth them.

All in all, ALL OF THESE WORK! Magick is based on energy and intent, primarily.

This and much more will be articulated and explained indepth in other posts and direct JoS Updates. Hopefully, after some projects are concluded, the wave of new arriving knowledge will be helpful to many.

 

[Filioautembiaboli]

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post.

This one?
Different Methods Of Doing the RTR's - Answered Question

Basically, yes.

However, as has been stated before, all of these methods are going to work:

1. Vibrated in literal chant, drawn out words. Works.
2. Vibrated very little in spoken way, very short vibrations. Works.
3. Doing it in the way HPS Maxine does in the audios, in a sense, uttering it. Works.
4. Whispering it. Works.
5. Saying it mentally with intent and visualization. Works.

I know there are some reasons why the differences here may not be really clear, but I will articulate all of these in posts in the actual JoS. All of this are different levels of action but work based on the same major rules. There are many things that need to be cleared up.

I have done ALL of the above under different circumstances, with the impact being as it should be on each.

However, the two methods that stand out is method 1 and 3. Methods 1 and 3 for this ritual are really powerful, and give out maximum output.

In regards to the others, 4 and 5, for the lack of the technique, you can compensate with mental focus, visualization, and force of will. They can become equal to 1, 2 and 3, just because of this addition.

2 is also very handy and powerful, combining shorter time, and the benefits of 1 and 3. The reason why vibrations are to be stretched, can help your mental focus while you strecth them.

All in all, ALL OF THESE WORK! Magick is based on energy and intent, primarily.

This and much more will be articulated and explained indepth in other posts and direct JoS Updates. Hopefully, after some projects are concluded, the wave of new arriving knowledge will be helpful to many.

Thanks

 

[Stormblood]

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post.

This one?
Different Methods Of Doing the RTR's - Answered Question

Basically, yes.

However, as has been stated before, all of these methods are going to work:

1. Vibrated in literal chant, drawn out words. Works.
2. Vibrated very little in spoken way, very short vibrations. Works.
3. Doing it in the way HPS Maxine does in the audios, in a sense, uttering it. Works.
4. Whispering it. Works.
5. Saying it mentally with intent and visualization. Works.

I know there are some reasons why the differences here may not be really clear, but I will articulate all of these in posts in the actual JoS. All of this are different levels of action but work based on the same major rules. There are many things that need to be cleared up.

I have done ALL of the above under different circumstances, with the impact being as it should be on each.

However, the two methods that stand out is method 1 and 3. Methods 1 and 3 for this ritual are really powerful, and give out maximum output.

In regards to the others, 4 and 5, for the lack of the technique, you can compensate with mental focus, visualization, and force of will. They can become equal to 1, 2 and 3, just because of this addition.

2 is also very handy and powerful, combining shorter time, and the benefits of 1 and 3. The reason why vibrations are to be stretched, can help your mental focus while you strecth them.

All in all, ALL OF THESE WORK! Magick is based on energy and intent, primarily.

This and much more will be articulated and explained indepth in other posts and direct JoS Updates. Hopefully, after some projects are concluded, the wave of new arriving knowledge will be helpful to many.

Thanks. Yes. I would say the list is applicable to mantra practice as well, in the reduced format I proposed.

 

[NinRick]

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post.

This one?
Different Methods Of Doing the RTR's - Answered Question

Basically, yes.

However, as has been stated before, all of these methods are going to work:

1. Vibrated in literal chant, drawn out words. Works.
2. Vibrated very little in spoken way, very short vibrations. Works.
3. Doing it in the way HPS Maxine does in the audios, in a sense, uttering it. Works.
4. Whispering it. Works.
5. Saying it mentally with intent and visualization. Works.

I know there are some reasons why the differences here may not be really clear, but I will articulate all of these in posts in the actual JoS. All of this are different levels of action but work based on the same major rules. There are many things that need to be cleared up.

I have done ALL of the above under different circumstances, with the impact being as it should be on each.

However, the two methods that stand out is method 1 and 3. Methods 1 and 3 for this ritual are really powerful, and give out maximum output.

In regards to the others, 4 and 5, for the lack of the technique, you can compensate with mental focus, visualization, and force of will. They can become equal to 1, 2 and 3, just because of this addition.

2 is also very handy and powerful, combining shorter time, and the benefits of 1 and 3. The reason why vibrations are to be stretched, can help your mental focus while you strecth them.

All in all, ALL OF THESE WORK! Magick is based on energy and intent, primarily.

This and much more will be articulated and explained indepth in other posts and direct JoS Updates. Hopefully, after some projects are concluded, the wave of new arriving knowledge will be helpful to many.

Thanks. Yes. I would say the list is applicable to mantra practice as well, in the reduced format I proposed.

Thanks for sharing in another post that the Solar Chakra is connected to the entire system!!
It helped me today!

 

[Stormblood]

This one?
Different Methods Of Doing the RTR's - Answered Question

Thanks. Yes. I would say the list is applicable to mantra practice as well, in the reduced format I proposed.

Thanks for sharing in another post that the Solar Chakra is connected to the entire system!!
It helped me today!

No problem!

 

[Osiris]

The power is in the breath. So Thoth said.

The humming breath is the foundation of mantra. It is a basic pranayama you can find on the list of breathing exercises on JoS. The more drawn-out the breath is (WITHOUT STRAINING YOURSELF!)*, the more powerful is your mantra practice. Intent and focus can make up part of this, as some people who are not really ready to use mantra tend to get distracted when vibrating properly. However, in no way you can achieve with fast vibrations as much power as proper vibration done by someone is actually read for mantra (laser focus, full-on intent).

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post. It went like this, from the most powerful to the least:
:arrow: 1. Full vibrations
:arrow: 2. Fast vibrations
:arrow: 3. Whispered vibrations
:arrow: 4. Mental vibrations

Obviously, the vibration should be of the proper frequency for what you're working, and you will feel it in the specific part of the soul. If it's not the right frequency, you're doing little to nothing at all.

*Caps are necessary in this case, because I had some people in the past who needs it like, or they're going to start verbal fights just for the sake of arguing with me.

Do I have to hold the breath for a while and then vibrate, or I can just vibrate after breathing in? I basically just vibrate without holding. But in the opening chakras, it is required to hold breath after breathing in. What is the purpose of holding breath?

 

[NinRick]

The power is in the breath. So Thoth said.

The humming breath is the foundation of mantra. It is a basic pranayama you can find on the list of breathing exercises on JoS. The more drawn-out the breath is (WITHOUT STRAINING YOURSELF!)*, the more powerful is your mantra practice. Intent and focus can make up part of this, as some people who are not really ready to use mantra tend to get distracted when vibrating properly. However, in no way you can achieve with fast vibrations as much power as proper vibration done by someone is actually read for mantra (laser focus, full-on intent).

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post. It went like this, from the most powerful to the least:
:arrow: 1. Full vibrations
:arrow: 2. Fast vibrations
:arrow: 3. Whispered vibrations
:arrow: 4. Mental vibrations

Obviously, the vibration should be of the proper frequency for what you're working, and you will feel it in the specific part of the soul. If it's not the right frequency, you're doing little to nothing at all.

*Caps are necessary in this case, because I had some people in the past who needs it like, or they're going to start verbal fights just for the sake of arguing with me.

Do I have to hold the breath for a while and then vibrate, or I can just vibrate after breathing in? I basically just vibrate without holding. But in the opening chakras, it is required to hold breath after breathing in. What is the purpose of holding breath?

It has to do with your focus, absorbing energy doing the breath and also the vibration of the chakra, which is better to complete the cycle... let me try to explain.

If you for example, have a glass or a tuning fork, if you hit them with a metal rod, they will vibrate with their own frequency of resonance, and you will hear their harmonic sound (their frequency of resonance)

Now, if you hit them again, while they still vibrate loudly, there are 2 cases which can happen,

You hit the tuning fork once, so it vibrates with the frequency of resonance, now while it is vibrating still strongly, you attempt to hit it again...

1: (which will be almost always the case)
You don’t time it perfectly, and you hit the tuning fork, which will dampen the sound, and also bring the tuning fork out of it‘s natural frequency of resonance.

2: you hit perfectly, you amplify the sound. (Which virtually never happens perfectly as you can not time this)

So the best way would be, to hit the tuning fork, let it vibrate, and before you hit it, it needs to lose energy on it‘s own, after is either completely still, or significantly quieter, you can hit the tuning fork again, and you get another harmonic sound with its own frequency of resonance.

Hit *harmonic sound* - wait *it gets quieter over time as it vibrates* - hit * harmonic sound* - wait.... and so on.

You can not spam hit a tuning fork because this will not give you strong and harmonic sounds, which is what the OP does.

 

[Osiris]

The power is in the breath. So Thoth said.

The humming breath is the foundation of mantra. It is a basic pranayama you can find on the list of breathing exercises on JoS. The more drawn-out the breath is (WITHOUT STRAINING YOURSELF!)*, the more powerful is your mantra practice. Intent and focus can make up part of this, as some people who are not really ready to use mantra tend to get distracted when vibrating properly. However, in no way you can achieve with fast vibrations as much power as proper vibration done by someone is actually read for mantra (laser focus, full-on intent).

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post. It went like this, from the most powerful to the least:
:arrow: 1. Full vibrations
:arrow: 2. Fast vibrations
:arrow: 3. Whispered vibrations
:arrow: 4. Mental vibrations

Obviously, the vibration should be of the proper frequency for what you're working, and you will feel it in the specific part of the soul. If it's not the right frequency, you're doing little to nothing at all.

*Caps are necessary in this case, because I had some people in the past who needs it like, or they're going to start verbal fights just for the sake of arguing with me.

Do I have to hold the breath for a while and then vibrate, or I can just vibrate after breathing in? I basically just vibrate without holding. But in the opening chakras, it is required to hold breath after breathing in. What is the purpose of holding breath?

It has to do with your focus, absorbing energy doing the breath and also the vibration of the chakra, which is better to complete the cycle... let me try to explain.

If you for example, have a glass or a tuning fork, if you hit them with a metal rod, they will vibrate with their own frequency of resonance, and you will hear their harmonic sound (their frequency of resonance)

Now, if you hit them again, while they still vibrate loudly, there are 2 cases which can happen,

You hit the tuning fork once, so it vibrates with the frequency of resonance, now while it is vibrating still strongly, you attempt to hit it again...

1: (which will be almost always the case)
You don’t time it perfectly, and you hit the tuning fork, which will dampen the sound, and also bring the tuning fork out of it‘s natural frequency of resonance.

2: you hit perfectly, you amplify the sound. (Which virtually never happens perfectly as you can not time this)

So the best way would be, to hit the tuning fork, let it vibrate, and before you hit it, it needs to lose energy on it‘s own, after is either completely still, or significantly quieter, you can hit the tuning fork again, and you get another harmonic sound with its own frequency of resonance.

Hit *harmonic sound* - wait *it gets quieter over time as it vibrates* - hit * harmonic sound* - wait.... and so on.

You can not spam hit a tuning fork because this will not give you strong and harmonic sounds, which is what the OP does.

THANK YOU!

 

[Stormblood]

The power is in the breath. So Thoth said.

The humming breath is the foundation of mantra. It is a basic pranayama you can find on the list of breathing exercises on JoS. The more drawn-out the breath is (WITHOUT STRAINING YOURSELF!)*, the more powerful is your mantra practice. Intent and focus can make up part of this, as some people who are not really ready to use mantra tend to get distracted when vibrating properly. However, in no way you can achieve with fast vibrations as much power as proper vibration done by someone is actually read for mantra (laser focus, full-on intent).

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post. It went like this, from the most powerful to the least:
:arrow: 1. Full vibrations
:arrow: 2. Fast vibrations
:arrow: 3. Whispered vibrations
:arrow: 4. Mental vibrations

Obviously, the vibration should be of the proper frequency for what you're working, and you will feel it in the specific part of the soul. If it's not the right frequency, you're doing little to nothing at all.

*Caps are necessary in this case, because I had some people in the past who needs it like, or they're going to start verbal fights just for the sake of arguing with me.

Do I have to hold the breath for a while and then vibrate, or I can just vibrate after breathing in? I basically just vibrate without holding. But in the opening chakras, it is required to hold breath after breathing in. What is the purpose of holding breath?

https://satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Humming_Breath.html

The purpose of holding the breath is to focus exclusively on the energy, which amplifies it. There are physiological functions and deeper spiritual functions as well, which I am not going to discuss at this moment.

 

[Quel_tizio]

The power is in the breath. So Thoth said.

The humming breath is the foundation of mantra. It is a basic pranayama you can find on the list of breathing exercises on JoS. The more drawn-out the breath is (WITHOUT STRAINING YOURSELF!)*, the more powerful is your mantra practice. Intent and focus can make up part of this, as some people who are not really ready to use mantra tend to get distracted when vibrating properly. However, in no way you can achieve with fast vibrations as much power as proper vibration done by someone is actually read for mantra (laser focus, full-on intent).

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post. It went like this, from the most powerful to the least:
:arrow: 1. Full vibrations
:arrow: 2. Fast vibrations
:arrow: 3. Whispered vibrations
:arrow: 4. Mental vibrations

Obviously, the vibration should be of the proper frequency for what you're working, and you will feel it in the specific part of the soul. If it's not the right frequency, you're doing little to nothing at all.

*Caps are necessary in this case, because I had some people in the past who needs it like, or they're going to start verbal fights just for the sake of arguing with me.

So, if you vibrate at the right frecuency, you'll feel the vibration in a specific part of the sul, but how can u vibrate at the right frecuency?

 

[Stormblood]

The power is in the breath. So Thoth said.

The humming breath is the foundation of mantra. It is a basic pranayama you can find on the list of breathing exercises on JoS. The more drawn-out the breath is (WITHOUT STRAINING YOURSELF!)*, the more powerful is your mantra practice. Intent and focus can make up part of this, as some people who are not really ready to use mantra tend to get distracted when vibrating properly. However, in no way you can achieve with fast vibrations as much power as proper vibration done by someone is actually read for mantra (laser focus, full-on intent).

There was a scheme HP HC shared a while ago. I don't remember which topic was this in. It would be great if someone could link it, in order to offer a fuller picture of the HP's post. It went like this, from the most powerful to the least:
:arrow: 1. Full vibrations
:arrow: 2. Fast vibrations
:arrow: 3. Whispered vibrations
:arrow: 4. Mental vibrations

Obviously, the vibration should be of the proper frequency for what you're working, and you will feel it in the specific part of the soul. If it's not the right frequency, you're doing little to nothing at all.

*Caps are necessary in this case, because I had some people in the past who needs it like, or they're going to start verbal fights just for the sake of arguing with me.

So, if you vibrate at the right frecuency, you'll feel the vibration in a specific part of the sul, but how can u vibrate at the right frecuency?

You have vocal chords that can produce many different frequency. When you speak, every letter is delivered differently. When you sing, every note. Your tone, your volume, your timbre... many things contribute to how the sounds you produce manifest.