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Should we feel sorry if worthless people end up perishing?

Dahaarkan said:
I suppose soon ninrick will be telling us we also need to kill ourselves to advance spiritually?

Jokes aside, these are very strange beliefs to hold.

Yes. This is the nigredo stage, and necessary for the attainment of the magnum Opus.
No joke.
 
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
I suppose soon ninrick will be telling us we also need to kill ourselves to advance spiritually?

Jokes aside, these are very strange beliefs to hold.

Yes. This is the nigredo stage, and necessary for the attainment of the magnum Opus.
No joke.
This is not a physical death.... It's a rebirth of yourself. You don't literally die, it's a metaphor.
 
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
I suppose soon ninrick will be telling us we also need to kill ourselves to advance spiritually?

Jokes aside, these are very strange beliefs to hold.

Yes. This is the nigredo stage, and necessary for the attainment of the magnum Opus.
No joke.

You do understand that was a joke right?

You do also understand the subject matter is in no way related to the magnum opus and this is simply de-railing the conversation?
 
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
I suppose soon ninrick will be telling us we also need to kill ourselves to advance spiritually?

Jokes aside, these are very strange beliefs to hold.

Yes. This is the nigredo stage, and necessary for the attainment of the magnum Opus.
No joke.

Stop right there. You are not correct. The nigredo stage is not about actual death. The resurrection is the death of the old self, birth of the new. The physical body does NOT die during the process.

It's more so allegorical. In that the diamond body, the perfected soul is born through this stage of the process, then greater refinement is done on the soul of the practitioner to propel further in the process of the great work.

You don't literally die, for the process to then continue to the next stage. Please reassess your view.
 
Stormblood said:
New souls have 1 or 2 lives at most, nowadays. But it's okay if they perish, because new souls can always be born to renew the species.

That kind of thinking really makes me shudder.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Stormblood said:
Henu the Great said:
I think you fail to understand that not everyone are supposed to go all out with the 8 fold path during their time here. Everyone will find their time with it when they are ready to do so.

The only thing I care to comment about is that, in that reply, NinRick did not say anything about going all out. He just said "sustain their soul through meditation". If a soul is not fed, it eventually reaches its expiration cycle. This is particularly true of new souls, as new souls nowadays are weaker, because their parents are depleted souls. Depleted souls cannot create enduring souls in any way, shape or form. New souls have 1 or 2 lives at most, nowadays. But it's okay if they perish, because new souls can always be born to renew the species.

I'm not really denying that this happens, but I do not think this should be treated with apathy. I also do not think this does anything to strengthen humanity or that we should simply accept this as being natural.

The kikes have created the UN-natural environment in which these souls rot and this is not their fault that they were born into a jewed out world. It is not fair to condemn them as "worthless" for being born into this world the way it is and being too young to find their way and to find Satan. And we should be more understanding, and try to salvage what we can instead of celebrating as these lost souls decay into nothing.


I do not believe in culling the weak. I believe in elevating the weak and making them strong. You were likewise weak and worthless before you found Satan. We all were. You found Satan because of the understanding and kind souls that created this beacon through which you found Satan and elevated yourself. We must continue this and bring as many people as we can back into Satan's light.

It is incredibly hypocritical to cross our arms and let them perish without trying to bring them into the light.

Well said. If not for Maxine building this, others contributing to it and growing it and sustaining it, and finally one person leaving a comment on a bitchute video for me to find, then I would have continued to be lost while searching for someone to agree with me and show me the way. No one else was saying all the right things, no one else was blaming the "unholy trinity" as I called it back then of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. Only the JoS was saying all the same things that I was thinking and concluding about the problems of this world, and that I knew in my heart to be true.
 
Aquarius said:
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
I suppose soon ninrick will be telling us we also need to kill ourselves to advance spiritually?

Jokes aside, these are very strange beliefs to hold.

Yes. This is the nigredo stage, and necessary for the attainment of the magnum Opus.
No joke.
This is not a physical death.... It's a rebirth of yourself. You don't literally die, it's a metaphor.

I know.
 
serpentwalker666 said:
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
I suppose soon ninrick will be telling us we also need to kill ourselves to advance spiritually?

Jokes aside, these are very strange beliefs to hold.

Yes. This is the nigredo stage, and necessary for the attainment of the magnum Opus.
No joke.

Stop right there. You are not correct. The nigredo stage is not about actual death. The resurrection is the death of the old self, birth of the new. The physical body does NOT die during the process.

It's more so allegorical. In that the diamond body, the perfected soul is born through this stage of the process, then greater refinement is done on the soul of the practitioner to propel further in the process of the great work.

You don't literally die, for the process to then continue to the next stage. Please reassess your view.

I know that you do not die. However, on a deeper level the change is so profound that you can really say that your old self died.

I was never saying that I was referring to the physical death. I just made a connection to what he said. Because during this stage you die in a sense, but not actually or physically.
 
Dahaarkan said:
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
I suppose soon ninrick will be telling us we also need to kill ourselves to advance spiritually?

Jokes aside, these are very strange beliefs to hold.

Yes. This is the nigredo stage, and necessary for the attainment of the magnum Opus.
No joke.

You do understand that was a joke right?

You do also understand the subject matter is in no way related to the magnum opus and this is simply de-railing the conversation?

I do see a connection here. As with the nigredo stage you „die“ (ik not physically) however, as a result you are reborn as a stronger version, this is evolution.

When the weak, not understanding, shallow and naive souls die, a part of humanity dies, which reshapes the face of humanity in a stronger version as well. This again is evolution.

All of this is spiritual, and ties into evolution, as our evolution is spiritual.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Stormblood said:
Henu the Great said:
I think you fail to understand that not everyone are supposed to go all out with the 8 fold path during their time here. Everyone will find their time with it when they are ready to do so.

The only thing I care to comment about is that, in that reply, NinRick did not say anything about going all out. He just said "sustain their soul through meditation". If a soul is not fed, it eventually reaches its expiration cycle. This is particularly true of new souls, as new souls nowadays are weaker, because their parents are depleted souls. Depleted souls cannot create enduring souls in any way, shape or form. New souls have 1 or 2 lives at most, nowadays. But it's okay if they perish, because new souls can always be born to renew the species.

I do not believe in culling the weak. I believe in elevating the weak and making them strong. You were likewise weak and worthless before you found Satan. We all were. You found Satan because of the understanding and kind souls that created this beacon through which you found Satan and elevated yourself. We must continue this and bring as many people as we can back into Satan's light.

I also believe so. The every Human has an enormous amount of sheer infinite potential in them. The Human body and soul is a master piece. Your body can actually use mechanisms to reshape itself, if you were able to access the unconscious part of the Body, aka the epigenetics. This way immortality and healing of any and all sickness is granted. And this is all the case because Satan is the greatest genius there is and actually wants us to be strong.

However, it is still a sad fact that many will perish.

When I say weak, I am referring to those who are doomed to perish, as they are relatively to their circumstances too weak to survive.

Every and all humans have the ability to become a God and thus, assure their survival for all eternities.

However, any and all Humans have only limited, time, energy, potential and opportunities, after this all expires, the soul expires as well, if the didn‘t make wise use of it.

I think you only have an issue with my phrasing of the matter, which makes it look like I am cold blooded. But well, this is nature. I am also furious when the world is burning and souls suffer, however, I safe my own soul and life, even if the world suffers as a whole, I can strive and enjoy life.
 
NinRick said:
However, it is still a sad fact that many will perish.

When you say this, it sounds like an affirmation. Saying it's a fact when you don't know the future is... unsettling. It can give the impression that you want this to happen. You also said 85-90% of souls which is a massive number, and nowhere near that many souls are going to be snuffed out. I don't believe that for a second. There's a reason we are told not to give negative prophecies. At the level of power we are at, we have to also be careful with our beliefs. What might happen if you hypothetically managed to convince every SS on the forums that this is an unavoidable fact that will happen no matter what? I don't want to think what might happen. It's similar to Jack broadcasting his doomsday messages and insisting that "it IS happening right now" as if it's a spell affirmation in the present tense, which made me extremely suspicious of him.

Anyway, I think this is partially why people are reacting to you in a way that you don't like. You should try to be more conscious and mindful of your speech and the way you say things. Having self awareness is very important, especially for communication.
 
jrvan said:
NinRick said:
However, it is still a sad fact that many will perish.

When you say this, it sounds like an affirmation. Saying it's a fact when you don't know the future is... unsettling. It can give the impression that you want this to happen. You also said 85-90% of souls which is a massive number, and nowhere near that many souls are going to be snuffed out. I don't believe that for a second. There's a reason we are told not to give negative prophecies. At the level of power we are at, we have to also be careful with our beliefs. What might happen if you hypothetically managed to convince every SS on the forums that this is an unavoidable fact that will happen no matter what? I don't want to think what might happen. It's similar to Jack broadcasting his doomsday messages and insisting that "it IS happening right now" as if it's a spell affirmation in the present tense, which made me extremely suspicious of him.

Anyway, I think this is partially why people are reacting to you in a way that you don't like. You should try to be more conscious and mindful of your speech and the way you say things. Having self awareness is very important, especially for communication.

Why future? It is happening right now.

I will stop talking about this topic, as there is no use and doesn‘t benefit anyone.
 
NinRick said:
jrvan said:
NinRick said:
However, it is still a sad fact that many will perish.

When you say this, it sounds like an affirmation. Saying it's a fact when you don't know the future is... unsettling. It can give the impression that you want this to happen. You also said 85-90% of souls which is a massive number, and nowhere near that many souls are going to be snuffed out. I don't believe that for a second. There's a reason we are told not to give negative prophecies. At the level of power we are at, we have to also be careful with our beliefs. What might happen if you hypothetically managed to convince every SS on the forums that this is an unavoidable fact that will happen no matter what? I don't want to think what might happen. It's similar to Jack broadcasting his doomsday messages and insisting that "it IS happening right now" as if it's a spell affirmation in the present tense, which made me extremely suspicious of him.

Anyway, I think this is partially why people are reacting to you in a way that you don't like. You should try to be more conscious and mindful of your speech and the way you say things. Having self awareness is very important, especially for communication.

Why future? It is happening right now.

I will stop talking about this topic, as there is no use and doesn‘t benefit anyone.

We create the future with affirmations in the present tense.

For clarification, do you believe that the Reverse Torah Rituals won't stop this projected number of 90% of souls from completely perishing, and that 90% of all souls are going to die no matter what we do? The way it appears, you seem to be suggesting that this fate is fixed and cannot be changed.
 
Dahaarkan said:
[...]

The kikes have created the UN-natural environment in which these souls rot and this is not their fault that they were born into a jewed out world.

I think that's what we should focus on: dismantling the enemy matrix. And we are doing that. The rest will follow. Firstly, as a side effect, then more directly when the enemy menace is vanquished and we can focus our rituals on elevation. I think that's what priests did in the past: rituals to uplift their own race.

It is not fair to condemn them as "worthless" for being born into this world the way it is and being too young to find their way and to find Satan. And we should be more understanding, and try to salvage what we can instead of celebrating as these lost souls decay into nothing.
I'm not a God. I have always been impatient. I'm now much less impatient than when it started, but it's still not fair to see how this people are allowed to achieve more than us because of twisted system, when people should be able to achieve more based on meritocracy only. How is a person whose only aim in life is entertainment (i.e. getting drunk, nightlife in general, doing drugs, hookups, etc) and that thinks only about entertainment worthier and further in life, while the rest has to struggle because:
:arrow: they were either born in the wrong country and the educational system was a mismatch for them; or
:arrow: they can't relate to the NPC masses, so networking is impossible or nearly impossible.

etc.

For example, I have lost many opportunities in life because I am not as good at speaking as I am at speaking, and I cannot lie. Yet, many NPCs - just because they are chatterboxes and have many (fake) friends easily - get those opportunities. What does being a chatterbox have to do with being skilled at what you? Nothing in most of the cases. Getting opportunities should be based on assessing what you can do, not on your oratory ability, unless the opportunity is about making speeches.

Another example, losing my dream job (and the most astrologically-compatible job) because I'm homosexual and not abrahamic, while people who broke under pressure, couldn't focus, had to be constantly motivated by me to even finish tasks... they were awarded what they do not deserve. A place in an elite military unit, a blind eye for anything they are unfit in. I can only pray to the Gods that these people are put in admin positions, and never let out on the fields, or they're going to get their whole unit killed, causing losses both in human resources and other aspects. Imagine if this people had to fight physically against the enemy one day... I'm lucky I won't have to trust them to have my back and sides, or I would be screwed.

This is are just two examples of many. My patience has long since expired.


You were likewise weak and worthless before you found Satan. We all were. You found Satan because of the understanding and kind souls that created this beacon through which you found Satan and elevated yourself. We must continue this and bring as many people as we can back into Satan's light.
I disagree. I found Father Satan because I was already with him in past lives, because my soul was already his and stronger than NPCs. The same can be said of everyone that is not an infiltrator here.

It is incredibly hypocritical to cross our arms and let them perish without trying to bring them into the light.
I disagree because that's not what we are doing. If we were, we wouldn't be doing the RTRs at all. It has nothing to do apathy either. What I described is how life works in this corner of the universe. There's not much we can do. We will save as many as possible but it's already been said that not everyone can be saved. It's also not 100% the enemy's fault. It's also their parents' fault and their own fault, as they have the power to overcome their level of degeneracy but they don't want to, at the deepest level of their soul. Their kundalini is the power to overcome. Every human being is born with a kundalini.
 
Stormblood said:
Dahaarkan said:
[...]

The kikes have created the UN-natural environment in which these souls rot and this is not their fault that they were born into a jewed out world.

I think that's what we should focus on: dismantling the enemy matrix. And we are doing that. The rest will follow. Firstly, as a side effect, then more directly when the enemy menace is vanquished and we can focus our rituals on elevation. I think that's what priests did in the past: rituals to uplift their own race.

It is not fair to condemn them as "worthless" for being born into this world the way it is and being too young to find their way and to find Satan. And we should be more understanding, and try to salvage what we can instead of celebrating as these lost souls decay into nothing.
I'm not a God. I have always been impatient. I'm now much less impatient than when it started, but it's still not fair to see how this people are allowed to achieve more than us because of twisted system, when people should be able to achieve more based on meritocracy only. How is a person whose only aim in life is entertainment (i.e. getting drunk, nightlife in general, doing drugs, hookups, etc) and that thinks only about entertainment worthier and further in life, while the rest has to struggle because:
:arrow: they were either born in the wrong country and the educational system was a mismatch for them; or
:arrow: they can't relate to the NPC masses, so networking is impossible or nearly impossible.

etc.

For example, I have lost many opportunities in life because I am not as good at speaking as I am at speaking, and I cannot lie. Yet, many NPCs - just because they are chatterboxes and have many (fake) friends easily - get those opportunities. What does being a chatterbox have to do with being skilled at what you? Nothing in most of the cases. Getting opportunities should be based on assessing what you can do, not on your oratory ability, unless the opportunity is about making speeches.

Another example, losing my dream job (and the most astrologically-compatible job) because I'm homosexual and not abrahamic, while people who broke under pressure, couldn't focus, had to be constantly motivated by me to even finish tasks... they were awarded what they do not deserve. A place in an elite military unit, a blind eye for anything they are unfit in. I can only pray to the Gods that these people are put in admin positions, and never let out on the fields, or they're going to get their whole unit killed, causing losses both in human resources and other aspects. Imagine if this people had to fight physically against the enemy one day... I'm lucky I won't have to trust them to have my back and sides, or I would be screwed.

This is are just two examples of many. My patience has long since expired.


You were likewise weak and worthless before you found Satan. We all were. You found Satan because of the understanding and kind souls that created this beacon through which you found Satan and elevated yourself. We must continue this and bring as many people as we can back into Satan's light.
I disagree. I found Father Satan because I was already with him in past lives, because my soul was already his and stronger than NPCs. The same can be said of everyone that is not an infiltrator here.

It is incredibly hypocritical to cross our arms and let them perish without trying to bring them into the light.
I disagree because that's not what we are doing. If we were, we wouldn't be doing the RTRs at all. It has nothing to do apathy either. What I described is how life works in this corner of the universe. There's not much we can do. We will save as many as possible but it's already been said that not everyone can be saved. It's also not 100% the enemy's fault. It's also their parents' fault and their own fault, as they have the power to overcome their level of degeneracy but they don't want to, at the deepest level of their soul. Their kundalini is the power to overcome. Every human being is born with a kundalini.

I can see a few different ways to help you grow based on what you wrote, but I don't know if you will be receptive to it if it is coming from my mouth. It's mostly just a few things about your mindset which I believe holds you back, and also certain ways in which you aren't able to see clearly. I mean, a lot of your perception seems to be rooted in pain and frustration which I understand.

I know it's not fair, brother. This society isn't made for us. It fundamentally rejects us. Talent and intelligence aren't nurtured and guided like they should be, nor valued. Society claims to prize intelligence and put great value on it, but it doesn't truly. People only like intelligence as a weapon and something to flaunt, and nothing more. The gifted are lost in a world that doesn't care about them and doesn't want them. The Nikola Teslas of the world are given the clear message that they have no place in society. As for success, the only thing that matters is who you know. That's just how it is. It's not a meritocracy and it won't be for a long time. I was bitter about this for quite a while as well, you know. But I sharpened my social skills and my speaking skills because I knew I had to if I wanted to get anywhere and achieve anything. It's a hard thing to accept, but we have to do what we have to do. We're building towards a world where it won't be like this anymore, and society will foster gifted individuals and value them.

In the meantime, working on your speaking skills will go a long way. You might be missing opportunities that come into your life if you're stubborn about only doing things a specific way. Sometimes a new approach is needed rather than committing 100% to the way that we want to be ideally. Our future dream selves won't disappear just because we do things a little differently on the way there.

It's not easy coming into this world as a Satanic soul. It can be really hard to cope. I hope my advice might be of some benefit to you. If it doesn't apply then feel free to reject it.
 
Stormblood said:
Dahaarkan said:
[...]

The kikes have created the UN-natural environment in which these souls rot and this is not their fault that they were born into a jewed out world.

I think that's what we should focus on: dismantling the enemy matrix. And we are doing that. The rest will follow. Firstly, as a side effect, then more directly when the enemy menace is vanquished and we can focus our rituals on elevation. I think that's what priests did in the past: rituals to uplift their own race.

It is not fair to condemn them as "worthless" for being born into this world the way it is and being too young to find their way and to find Satan. And we should be more understanding, and try to salvage what we can instead of celebrating as these lost souls decay into nothing.
I'm not a God. I have always been impatient. I'm now much less impatient than when it started, but it's still not fair to see how this people are allowed to achieve more than us because of twisted system, when people should be able to achieve more based on meritocracy only. How is a person whose only aim in life is entertainment (i.e. getting drunk, nightlife in general, doing drugs, hookups, etc) and that thinks only about entertainment worthier and further in life, while the rest has to struggle because:
:arrow: they were either born in the wrong country and the educational system was a mismatch for them; or
:arrow: they can't relate to the NPC masses, so networking is impossible or nearly impossible.

etc.

For example, I have lost many opportunities in life because I am not as good at speaking as I am at speaking, and I cannot lie. Yet, many NPCs - just because they are chatterboxes and have many (fake) friends easily - get those opportunities. What does being a chatterbox have to do with being skilled at what you? Nothing in most of the cases. Getting opportunities should be based on assessing what you can do, not on your oratory ability, unless the opportunity is about making speeches.

Another example, losing my dream job (and the most astrologically-compatible job) because I'm homosexual and not abrahamic, while people who broke under pressure, couldn't focus, had to be constantly motivated by me to even finish tasks... they were awarded what they do not deserve. A place in an elite military unit, a blind eye for anything they are unfit in. I can only pray to the Gods that these people are put in admin positions, and never let out on the fields, or they're going to get their whole unit killed, causing losses both in human resources and other aspects. Imagine if this people had to fight physically against the enemy one day... I'm lucky I won't have to trust them to have my back and sides, or I would be screwed.

This is are just two examples of many. My patience has long since expired.


You were likewise weak and worthless before you found Satan. We all were. You found Satan because of the understanding and kind souls that created this beacon through which you found Satan and elevated yourself. We must continue this and bring as many people as we can back into Satan's light.
I disagree. I found Father Satan because I was already with him in past lives, because my soul was already his and stronger than NPCs. The same can be said of everyone that is not an infiltrator here.

It is incredibly hypocritical to cross our arms and let them perish without trying to bring them into the light.
I disagree because that's not what we are doing. If we were, we wouldn't be doing the RTRs at all. It has nothing to do apathy either. What I described is how life works in this corner of the universe. There's not much we can do. We will save as many as possible but it's already been said that not everyone can be saved. It's also not 100% the enemy's fault. It's also their parents' fault and their own fault, as they have the power to overcome their level of degeneracy but they don't want to, at the deepest level of their soul. Their kundalini is the power to overcome. Every human being is born with a kundalini.

Let me put this in a way that you can understand. Internally and on some level, you have come to understand that life is easier if you are manipulative, if you are a good liar and bullshit artist.

In spite of the advantages this brings, you do not accept this or allow it to taint your being. I'm the opposite, I seize every advantage and am totally unapologetic, though I'm not judging or saying this is a negative. The point is the world sucks but instead of conforming and accepting it you choose to instead be loyal to yourself and your nature.


In the same way of thinking, why accept the way life works in this jewed up world?

Why even tolerate natural law when we have the power to defy it when it is convenient?

I think a lot of you guys underestimate how much power we collectively have. A power that only gets stronger as we dismantle the jewish influence that opposes it.

We have the power to make the world we want. I'm all for purging souls that deserve it, but being apathetic about souls that have just not found their way yet decaying to nothing, it just feels wrong to me.

And I do believe we can save more souls than you think.


As for your experience, I've gone through something similar. Where I was declined another promotion because I'm too young. Sadly for the guy that took my job I'm not Stormblood and he won't be in that position for very long :)))))))

I'd give you advice on how to be a good liar and be manipulative, but I don't think these things are compatible with your being. Regardless I'm sure you'll accomplish your goals one way or another. Stay true to yourself.

Slowly but surely we will make a world where people get what they deserve.
 
jrvan said:
NinRick said:
jrvan said:
When you say this, it sounds like an affirmation. Saying it's a fact when you don't know the future is... unsettling. It can give the impression that you want this to happen. You also said 85-90% of souls which is a massive number, and nowhere near that many souls are going to be snuffed out. I don't believe that for a second. There's a reason we are told not to give negative prophecies. At the level of power we are at, we have to also be careful with our beliefs. What might happen if you hypothetically managed to convince every SS on the forums that this is an unavoidable fact that will happen no matter what? I don't want to think what might happen. It's similar to Jack broadcasting his doomsday messages and insisting that "it IS happening right now" as if it's a spell affirmation in the present tense, which made me extremely suspicious of him.

Anyway, I think this is partially why people are reacting to you in a way that you don't like. You should try to be more conscious and mindful of your speech and the way you say things. Having self awareness is very important, especially for communication.

Why future? It is happening right now.

I will stop talking about this topic, as there is no use and doesn‘t benefit anyone.

We create the future with affirmations in the present tense.

For clarification, do you believe that the Reverse Torah Rituals won't stop this projected number of 90% of souls from completely perishing, and that 90% of all souls are going to die no matter what we do? The way it appears, you seem to be suggesting that this fate is fixed and cannot be changed.

Oh I am not referring to 90% perishing here, I am just saying that many just perish.

But those 90% are very fragile unfortunately, as they are new born and don‘t „eat“ aka meditate as they should.

Humanity overall is of Satan, but at the same time, not all individuals are of Satan. Satan cares for Humanity as a whole, and Satan and his Demons help us individually, as we individuals who are strong create the future and new face of Humanity.

Do you understand me?
 
Dahaarkan said:

jrvan said:

I am learning my way to deal with situations. No worries. There are some things that, however, cannot be compromised. Most of my chart is very uncompromising. Only the social aspect is an are where I can compromise, mediate and play peace-maker and diplomat. On the other hand, the career area is the one to be most "black and white" in my chart. Anyway, this is not the topic to discuss about myself. Not to mention, last time I opened up about something publicly, the enemy ramped individual curses up by a factor of 100x. Thankfully, we are doing the reversing curses RTR this period.

I don't see innocence the way some of you guys do anymore. I used to be wanting to save everyone, but the reality is that it's just not possible. Some people, yes, and we are doing that. But everyone, no. And if one starts feeling sorry for everyone they cannot save, they will never live their lives.

Lady Maxine has also spoken against feeling sorry and saying you are sorry, because it opens up to others in a way they can take advantage of you.
 
Stormblood said:
Dahaarkan said:

jrvan said:

I am learning my way to deal with situations. No worries. There are some things that, however, cannot be compromised. Most of my chart is very uncompromising. Only the social aspect is an are where I can compromise, mediate and play peace-maker and diplomat. On the other hand, the career area is the one to be most "black and white" in my chart. Anyway, this is not the topic to discuss about myself. Not to mention, last time I opened up about something publicly, the enemy ramped individual curses up by a factor of 100x. Thankfully, we are doing the reversing curses RTR this period.

I don't see innocence the way some of you guys do anymore. I used to be wanting to save everyone, but the reality is that it's just not possible. Some people, yes, and we are doing that. But everyone, no. And if one starts feeling sorry for everyone they cannot save, they will never live their lives.

Lady Maxine has also spoken against feeling sorry and saying you are sorry, because it opens up to others in a way they can take advantage of you.

I wouldn't say I feel "sorry" to the point where I feel guilty for whatever is happening to these people as a result of their lack of awareness or ability to liberate themselves.

Simply present is the same impulse that makes me pull a drowning animal out of the water. One is not required to pull a drowning dog out of a pool of water. Neither is one guilty if one does nothing and the dog drowns.


Regardless you are by design inclined to save the animal's life. I understand your rage and modicum of misanthropy. But in my opinion you should not allow it to taint your true nature and become apathetic towards people who really, do not deserve to decay and collapse into nothing, as it is not their fault they were born into a world choking on jewish corruption.

Even if you are incapable of saving them, to feel nothing as they are victimized by and destroyed by jews is still kinda bad in my opinion. You are by design meant to FEEL something upon witnessing injustice. If you feel nothing, then something is missing. That's just how I see things personally.
 
Stormblood said:
Dahaarkan said:

jrvan said:

I am learning my way to deal with situations. No worries. There are some things that, however, cannot be compromised. Most of my chart is very uncompromising. Only the social aspect is an are where I can compromise, mediate and play peace-maker and diplomat. On the other hand, the career area is the one to be most "black and white" in my chart. Anyway, this is not the topic to discuss about myself. Not to mention, last time I opened up about something publicly, the enemy ramped individual curses up by a factor of 100x. Thankfully, we are doing the reversing curses RTR this period.

I don't see innocence the way some of you guys do anymore. I used to be wanting to save everyone, but the reality is that it's just not possible. Some people, yes, and we are doing that. But everyone, no. And if one starts feeling sorry for everyone they cannot save, they will never live their lives.

Lady Maxine has also spoken against feeling sorry and saying you are sorry, because it opens up to others in a way they can take advantage of you.

Also when you feel too empathetic, and feel the pain of others, you take all their dross into your own soul.

Yes, we do provide Information, as it is Satan‘s Will that the Truth is being made public and spreads. But ultimately everyone needs to work on their own soul, and save it theirselves.

Anything different is just delusional. You can not safe everyone, but you can save yourself, and reshape Mankind with other people who are strong enough to strive and advance.
 
Pumpkin671 said:
Henu the Great said:
Pumpkin671 said:
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I understand your point. I meant more so of people taking care of their health like running, eating right, reading and learning. Unless that would also affect it in some way.
Not only planetary influences have a say about ourselves and our lives, but also the fact that humanity has been mercilessly cursed for a very long time so the base level of average human is very low at the moment. For example even top level world class athletes are not much compared to what they were in ancient times.
 
Dahaarkan said:
Stormblood said:
Dahaarkan said:

jrvan said:

I am learning my way to deal with situations. No worries. There are some things that, however, cannot be compromised. Most of my chart is very uncompromising. Only the social aspect is an are where I can compromise, mediate and play peace-maker and diplomat. On the other hand, the career area is the one to be most "black and white" in my chart. Anyway, this is not the topic to discuss about myself. Not to mention, last time I opened up about something publicly, the enemy ramped individual curses up by a factor of 100x. Thankfully, we are doing the reversing curses RTR this period.

I don't see innocence the way some of you guys do anymore. I used to be wanting to save everyone, but the reality is that it's just not possible. Some people, yes, and we are doing that. But everyone, no. And if one starts feeling sorry for everyone they cannot save, they will never live their lives.

Lady Maxine has also spoken against feeling sorry and saying you are sorry, because it opens up to others in a way they can take advantage of you.

Simply present is the same impulse that makes me pull a drowning animal out of the water. One is not required to pull a drowning dog out of a pool of water. Neither is one guilty if one does nothing and the dog drowns.

If someone lets a dog drown they are a psychopath. And if you do not safe it you are guilty of it’s death.
 
NinRick said:
jrvan said:
NinRick said:
Why future? It is happening right now.

I will stop talking about this topic, as there is no use and doesn‘t benefit anyone.

We create the future with affirmations in the present tense.

For clarification, do you believe that the Reverse Torah Rituals won't stop this projected number of 90% of souls from completely perishing, and that 90% of all souls are going to die no matter what we do? The way it appears, you seem to be suggesting that this fate is fixed and cannot be changed.

Oh I am not referring to 90% perishing here, I am just saying that many just perish.

But those 90% are very fragile unfortunately, as they are new born and don‘t „eat“ aka meditate as they should.

Humanity overall is of Satan, but at the same time, not all individuals are of Satan. Satan cares for Humanity as a whole, and Satan and his Demons help us individually, as we individuals who are strong create the future and new face of Humanity.

Do you understand me?

It makes more sense now. Thanks for clarifying. I know that some will possibly perish, and I can't do anything about it, but I don't believe it's going to be a huge number of souls going forward into the future because we are defeating our enemy. Very few human souls would perish without the jews around because spirituality would be available to everyone, and ignorance wouldn't be enforced. Knowledge will be readily available again just like it was in the past, and we will eventually get entire spiritual cultures going again.

NinRick said:
Also when you feel too empathetic, and feel the pain of others, you take all their dross into your own soul.

This isn't necessarily or strictly true. It won't be all of the dross if this does happen, and the process is a bit more complex than simply empathizing. If this were true then a lot of people would be screwed for having their natural empath abilities. The danger of empathy is simply that it opens up the soul to someone, and that's why it's strongly advised for people to avoid empathizing, lightly sympathizing, or even paying attention to the wrong people. Some people aren't worth empathizing with. In a spiritual society though, empaths would be right at home.

NinRick said:
If someone lets a dog drown they are a psychopath. And if you do not safe it you are guilty of it’s death.
This is a value judgment, and even though you are entitled to this belief, it's not right to push this belief on others. The law in society is what governs things like that, and determines if someone is guilty in the eyes of the law.

Let me give you an example. If I'm on the way to work at a job where it is required of me to be very punctual, and I see a dog drowning on the side of the road in the river as I'm driving by, I might be required to make a value judgment where I prioritize feeding my family over saving the dog's life.
That scenario is the dilemma faced by someone who cares about morality and even considers these things. In the first place, not everyone is going to have the same moral code that they live by, and also not everyone is even going to be a very moral person in the first place. Some people are amoral, and they don't have their actions governed by moral considerations at all.
 
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
Stormblood said:
I am learning my way to deal with situations. No worries. There are some things that, however, cannot be compromised. Most of my chart is very uncompromising. Only the social aspect is an are where I can compromise, mediate and play peace-maker and diplomat. On the other hand, the career area is the one to be most "black and white" in my chart. Anyway, this is not the topic to discuss about myself. Not to mention, last time I opened up about something publicly, the enemy ramped individual curses up by a factor of 100x. Thankfully, we are doing the reversing curses RTR this period.

I don't see innocence the way some of you guys do anymore. I used to be wanting to save everyone, but the reality is that it's just not possible. Some people, yes, and we are doing that. But everyone, no. And if one starts feeling sorry for everyone they cannot save, they will never live their lives.

Lady Maxine has also spoken against feeling sorry and saying you are sorry, because it opens up to others in a way they can take advantage of you.

Simply present is the same impulse that makes me pull a drowning animal out of the water. One is not required to pull a drowning dog out of a pool of water. Neither is one guilty if one does nothing and the dog drowns.

If someone lets a dog drown they are a psychopath. And if you do not safe it you are guilty of it’s death.

That would depend on the circumstances. Your own safety when saving another needs to be taken into account.

Say if it was a child watching that dog, but the child cannot swim and no one else is around, are they guilty for the dogs death because the child also would have drowned if he/she tried to save the dog?

This also applies to the topic at hand (to get things back on track here). If one’s safety must be compromised to the point it puts their life in danger in order to save another from their ignorance, then one must decide if they will prioritize their own life over the other’s, or if they will let themselves risk being drowned by the ignorant person.

SS can’t recklessly throw their lives away to save others as we are the backbone of knowledge that needs to spread through the world to awaken as many as possible who are in it. We are also the warriors fighting back against the enemy’s curses.

Does it make us guilty or a psychopath because we couldn’t save someone? No. If we felt guilty for every death we see happen in the world and didn't save, we wouldn't be able to enjoy life.

There are probably a number of SS who may end up watching family or friends be swept up in the enemy’s destruction and corruption, because they can’t wake them up or these people are too crazy to jeopardize their own life to save.

What is happening to humanity is not normal… it’s a sad, and imo, a torturous thing to watch. These people were once our people, and the enemy has brainwashed them to be against us, and to be against Satan. Are we guilty for their deaths? Should we feel guilty? Imo, no. The only ones who need to feel guilty for what humanity is going through are the jews and those who work for them.
 
Only souls truly of the enemy for the most part will perish. This does not have anything to do with their current beliefs. This is a soul level thing. I don't think this is anywhere near 90 percent of humanity.
 
Henu the Great said:
Pumpkin671 said:
Henu the Great said:
I understand your point. I meant more so of people taking care of their health like running, eating right, reading and learning. Unless that would also affect it in some way.
Not only planetary influences have a say about ourselves and our lives, but also the fact that humanity has been mercilessly cursed for a very long time so the base level of average human is very low at the moment. For example even top level world class athletes are not much compared to what they were in ancient times.
Ah that makes sense.Thank you.
 
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
Stormblood said:
I am learning my way to deal with situations. No worries. There are some things that, however, cannot be compromised. Most of my chart is very uncompromising. Only the social aspect is an are where I can compromise, mediate and play peace-maker and diplomat. On the other hand, the career area is the one to be most "black and white" in my chart. Anyway, this is not the topic to discuss about myself. Not to mention, last time I opened up about something publicly, the enemy ramped individual curses up by a factor of 100x. Thankfully, we are doing the reversing curses RTR this period.

I don't see innocence the way some of you guys do anymore. I used to be wanting to save everyone, but the reality is that it's just not possible. Some people, yes, and we are doing that. But everyone, no. And if one starts feeling sorry for everyone they cannot save, they will never live their lives.

Lady Maxine has also spoken against feeling sorry and saying you are sorry, because it opens up to others in a way they can take advantage of you.

Simply present is the same impulse that makes me pull a drowning animal out of the water. One is not required to pull a drowning dog out of a pool of water. Neither is one guilty if one does nothing and the dog drowns.

If someone lets a dog drown they are a psychopath. And if you do not safe it you are guilty of it’s death.

You do realize the dog drowning is an analogy for innocent souls perishing due to jewish corruption right?

And that you've been arguing against saving them for days now?
 
Dahaarkan said:
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
Simply present is the same impulse that makes me pull a drowning animal out of the water. One is not required to pull a drowning dog out of a pool of water. Neither is one guilty if one does nothing and the dog drowns.

If someone lets a dog drown they are a psychopath. And if you do not safe it you are guilty of it’s death.

You do realize the dog drowning is an analogy for innocent souls perishing due to jewish corruption right?

And that you've been arguing against saving them for days now?

It is a bad analogy. Because you can safe a dog with very little risk and very easily. This is no effort. So if you do not safe it, you are a cruel psychopath.

You can not safe a soul yourself. Everyone safes their own soul. You can not really meditate for me for example.

Or are you saying if I quit to advance, you will just open up my energy path ways for me? I would appreciate that offer btw. Pls work esp on my Aura, I live the dense feeling.
You can do the same with all of my family as well, they do not meditate, and don’t want to advance, but hey, you wanna save many people right? So 10 people is easy peasy lemon squeezy for you. After that pls safe my country. I like German people. Then maybe Europe?

Do you get what I am trying to tell you? All you can do is to share information and the truth, and yes we do this, and yes this is very much needed. But even so, only a small fraction of people are being reached by that, and from them only few decide to listen, from whom a few seriously try to advance.

Even before the Jews souls were perishing, tho not to that extend. Why do you believe the Jews were able to infiltrate Egypt and destroy it from within to begin with? If most people were spiritual and were advancing seriously, this wouldn’t be possible at all. Only the elite of Humanity has the desire to advance spiritually, and this very little elite, used to be Kings, Emperors and Rulers in ancient times. This is how it has been, the strong strive and survive.

Of course it would be best if most humans wanted to seriously advance, but this is just naive.
 
Those who are on the path of serious evolution, stay with humanity and shape its face. Those who are not, will perish eventually, and get replaced.

What is so hard to understand here?

I am not even talking about the extend of people perishing, but this is the general process of evolution.
 
NinRick said:
It is a bad analogy. Because you can safe a dog with very little risk and very easily. This is no effort. So if you do not safe it, you are a cruel psychopath.

You can not safe a soul yourself. Everyone safes their own soul. You can not really meditate for me for example.

Or are you saying if I quit to advance, you will just open up my energy path ways for me? I would appreciate that offer btw. Pls work esp on my Aura, I live the dense feeling.
You can do the same with all of my family as well, they do not meditate, and don’t want to advance, but hey, you wanna save many people right? So 10 people is easy peasy lemon squeezy for you. After that pls safe my country. I like German people. Then maybe Europe?

Do you get what I am trying to tell you? All you can do is to share information and the truth, and yes we do this, and yes this is very much needed. But even so, only a small fraction of people are being reached by that, and from them only few decide to listen, from whom a few seriously try to advance.

Even before the Jews souls were perishing, tho not to that extend. Why do you believe the Jews were able to infiltrate Egypt and destroy it from within to begin with? If most people were spiritual and were advancing seriously, this wouldn’t be possible at all. Only the elite of Humanity has the desire to advance spiritually, and this very little elite, used to be Kings, Emperors and Rulers in ancient times. This is how it has been, the strong strive and survive.

Of course it would be best if most humans wanted to seriously advance, but this is just naive.

Well, I do know the basis for this disagreement and I was hoping you'd realize this on your own.

Turn back the clock 3000 years or so and tell someone that the world will be dominated by a miniscule nomad tribe of deformed weaklings. That someone would tell you what you're telling me now, that there's no conceivable, logical or possible way for this to happen.


A Satanist using the word "can't" is such a lazy term and almost sinful if you ask me. You observe the conditions surrounding you and live by them, oblivious to the fact that to a Satanist, those conditions are as malleable as wet clay.

You are caged by conditions you observe and believe to be set in stone and unbreakable, I am not. This is why we disagree.


Anything and everything I set out to accomplish, I accomplish regardless of any conditions or what's in the way. The universe cannot sway me with conditions and excuses. If conditions don't permit my goal to come to fruition, then I change the conditions.

And all of us together, with Satan and the Gods supporting us, you'll be hard pressed to find something we "can't" do. The world will be exactly as we want it to be. We do not have to accept anything we do not want or do not like. Like I said to Stormblood, some of you underestimate the power we have, and the power Satan has.

The only limits to your power and agency in the world are the ones you yourself create in your mind.


If you or any genuine SS start to decay, I'll do what I can to talk sense into you, to motivate you and try to get you back on the right track, as I have done many times before to different people. I will not ignore and abandon you just because you weren't "strong enough" or any such bullshit. We all go through periods of darkness.

Likewise I do what I can to pull outsiders into the light and try to give them a chance to save themselves. I do not abandon them or celebrate when they fail and collapse.

In a similar fashion I do what I can to pull a drowning animal out of the water.


And in the event that my attempts fail, that you permanently lose your way or that the dog drowns, I don't sit back and see this as a positive thing that does anything to strengthen humanity. That would just be a shitty coping mechanism at best, apathy at worst.
 
NinRick said:
You can save people by spreading the lost knowledge and removing curses, which is exactly what we are doing. "Seriously trying to advance" is not a prequisite for remaining in the existence all the time since there can be periods when there is stagnation or even regression, but if the overall trend is upwards, then one will continue to exist.

Aside from the above, we can not outrule Gods giving a hand either.
 
Henu the Great said:
NinRick said:
You can save people by spreading the lost knowledge and removing curses, which is exactly what we are doing. "Seriously trying to advance" is not a prequisite for remaining in the existence all the time since there can be periods when there is stagnation or even regression, but if the overall trend is upwards, then one will continue to exist.

Aside from the above, we can not outrule Gods giving a hand either.

This is the only way to safe people yes. However, you will only reach a limited amount of people by doing so, as they need to have an interest in the Occult as well as the willpower, time and energy to invest into their own advancement. This is not an easy path, and someone needs to align their hearts, souls and minds with this objective. It is nothing that just passively happens, it is a lot of hard work, consistent work, persistence, determination, and patience.

I have no clue why you all have a hard time to realise, that what we do is extremely hard. Not only do we advance, and do the warfare, we also have our regular lives on top of that. Most people are already overwhelmed by that. We are also the most cursed souls, as we have existed for a longer time as well as the enemy points their swords at us more.

Not everyone wants to do this, and more importantly, not everyone CAN actually do this. Theoretically yes, but practically NO.

One more thing, souls are not immortal. The only way to become out of bound of time is to achieve the MO. Only then your „temporary“ soul, becomes permanent, and you are truly immortal.
It is naive and arrogant to claim that you are forever, if you are not a God and just a mortal.

One bad episode in your own advancement, aka stagnation and regression over a certain period of time and poof you are gone. One very bad episode in the history of humanity, and a mass dying, poof and you are gone.

We exactly strive spiritually to survive in the end of the day. only as a God you are timeless, immortal and survive forever.

Do you really believe that all 8Billion humans will attain the MO? Or do you rather believe most will perish?

This is what I am referring to when I am talking about evolution. The future of Humanity is Godhood. Look around, do you really believe those souls have what it takes to become Gods?
I believe, many will perish, and get replaced as many times as needed, with souls that will persist and become Gods.

This is Evolution of mankind, which is the sum of the evolution of each individual. Some strive and succeed, and some perish. Same as within the animal kingdom.
The strong survived for millennia, while the weak perish after some centuries.

Also this process is absolutely normal, and natural and also needed for the evolution of mankind.
The enemy is not even involved in that, altho they do add some factors that are working against us individually and also Humanity as a whole.
 
Stormblood said:
:arrow: they can't relate to the NPC masses, so networking is impossible or nearly impossible.

You don't need to relate to others to make them your friends.
You can just let them talk and talk and talk. When there's a pause, tell them how great it is whatever they are doing or ask them some minor detail, or even just repeat the last thing they said as a question.
NPC: I did x and then...
You: interrupts them, "you did x?" with a surprised face and incredulous tone of voice. Then slip in a compliment "how did you find the courage?" with a smile. You have to make yourself believe the lie or the delivery will look fake and they'll take offense to it. You want to look dumb all the time. To them, there's nothing better than a person dumber than them that they can lord over. Ask them for advice or help in solving some task. Doesn't matter if they refuse. It's important that they see you as inferior. While you do this, you want to be leading them stealthily. They are clueless and they want and need guidance but not if it hurts their ego. They subconsciously want someone to lead them to success by the most dumb and incompetent looking person. Now you can see why they elected Joe Biden. To us it doesn't make any sense but that's the reality.
 
What NinRick says is mostly true.

Unfortunately, many gentile souls, the vast majority, will never achieve the MO, and dissipate into nothingness after a small number of lifetimes.

This has been the case for thousands of years.

Only those souls who grasp life tightly in their hands, and who manage to discover true spirituality, practice it and energize their souls before they lose too much energy to sustain reincarnation will continue existing for long enough to advance.

A soul can withstand a few lifetimes of stagnation and even under the enemy influence to some degree.

Especially if that soul had been able to empower itself greatly before finding itself reincarnated in a society dominated by the enemy influence, that empowered soul can endure for a long time, dozens of lifetimes even if the will to live is strong enough.

However, most people alive today are 1st-3rd generation souls that were born into the enemy spell (from parents that were xian, or mudslime, etc), as a result they are weak and fragile existences.

They have to find spirituality of some kind to help them energize their souls and restore their vitality, as well as find joys in life which makes them long to live again. If they do not, those souls won't live to see their 4th lifetime, and some may even dissipate after living just 2.

When the enemy influence waned however, and Satan's power reigns supreme in this world, even those weak and fragile souls will have opportunities to find the true spirituality necessary to replenish their souls and continue existing.

Therefore, in the future when Satan's power is fully restored, there is a real chance for many of the fragile and fleeting souls alive today that manage to get through this storm and see the Morning Star rise in a future lifetime to manifest the potential within them and open the path to the Godhead.

At the moment however, the future is bleak for many, and their potential is out of reach.

Even if they find the Joy of Satan many are unable to follow our teachings, however finding the Joy of Satan might be the tiny breather these souls need to change their fate, revitalize their energies just enough to get another life where they may previously have been destined to dissipate, and open the doors to an eventual rising to the Godhead.

The more power and influence the Joy of Satan gains, the more bright the future and the more blessed the fates of all gentile souls on Earth.

The Joy of Satan is opening the path to new generations of Gods, and in the coming decades/century there will be more Gods rising on the Earth than there have been in the past 2000-3000 years combined.

The fate of the world changes through our efforts today, where the path to the Godhead opens up for progressively more souls on Earth, eventually allowing for a full qualitative uprising of the gentile spirit for all the gentile races.

There are worlds under Satan's rule where the basic quality of all the people is on the level of the Godhead. All the millions, or billions of inhabitants are immortals and enlightened existences.

I had projected to some places with the help of my GD, and when I saw it I cried in happiness and emotion. Even thinking back to the beauty of these places, my eyes get wet with tears again.


The Earth can become such a world as well, but that requires immense work and thousands of years of development, which in the grand scheme is not that long. Some of us have lived longer (in total existence over all lifetimes) than the required time it would take for this evolution to occur on our Earth.


It is that future which we must strive for, and such a future can only exist when the enemy is annihilated from the face of the Earth on all levels.

Until then, many ordinary gentile souls will dissipate to nothingness. However, there will be some who can make it through, and see our Earth flourish into a divine Satanic paradise together with us here, thanks to our efforts and hard work, which must continue until our Earth fully escapes the enemy clutches totally, and Satan's power permeates through All.

Hail Satan!
 
Stormblood said:
:arrow: they can't relate to the NPC masses, so networking is impossible or nearly impossible.
I think that my previous advice could be too much for you to handle right now.
Do this instead: let others speak and let them finish. When there is a moment of silence, throw in a question. Ask them some pertinent detail or even just repeat their last sentence in your own voice.
Ask about their feelings or focus on one of the 5 Ws : What? Who? Why? Where? When?
Make a list of questions that you can throw at any situation.
NPC : "I did x and blah blah blah"
You : wait for a moment of silence, "who was with you? How did they fare? Who have you met? When did that happen? How can I do that? Tell me more about x. What do you think of y?" etc.
Never ever contradict them or say that you'd do things differently. Never give them advice. Let them give advice to you.
 
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
Simply present is the same impulse that makes me pull a drowning animal out of the water. One is not required to pull a drowning dog out of a pool of water. Neither is one guilty if one does nothing and the dog drowns.

If someone lets a dog drown they are a psychopath. And if you do not safe it you are guilty of it’s death.

In many countries, the duty to rescue doesn't apply to humans, let alone animals. It is sad people need to be told by law that one should do that because their moral fibre is too low for them to understand. However, it's understandable, since we live in the age of "let's record and watch crime unfold" rather than finding a way to solve the situation appropriately. What your followers think is more important than stopping a bully, a criminal or whatever, either by directly supporting the victim or indirectly by getting an appropriate figure to intervene.
 
VoE made an answer, detailed summary of pov.

Stormblood said:
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
Simply present is the same impulse that makes me pull a drowning animal out of the water. One is not required to pull a drowning dog out of a pool of water. Neither is one guilty if one does nothing and the dog drowns.

If someone lets a dog drown they are a psychopath. And if you do not safe it you are guilty of it’s death.

In many countries, the duty to rescue doesn't apply to humans, let alone animals. It is sad people need to be told by law that one should do that because their moral fibre is too low for them to understand. However, it's understandable, since we live in the age of "let's record and watch crime unfold" rather than finding a way to solve the situation appropriately. What your followers think is more important than stopping a bully, a criminal or whatever, either by directly supporting the victim or indirectly by getting an appropriate figure to intervene.
Most NPCs are psychopaths and sociopaths. That's how deep the level of indoctrination is. Otherwise, the feelings they harbour wouldn't be as shallow, and their relationship neither.

In my opinion, the estimate of 8 billion is also very wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 3 billions at the very most.


Henu the Great said:
NinRick said:
You can save people by spreading the lost knowledge and removing curses, which is exactly what we are doing. "Seriously trying to advance" is not a prequisite for remaining in the existence all the time since there can be periods when there is stagnation or even regression, but if the overall trend is upwards, then one will continue to exist.

Aside from the above, we can not outrule Gods giving a hand either.
The issue is that the overall trend of NPCs is bearish, nearing 0. They're not in the long market like real SS.

AgainstAllAuthority said:
Stormblood said:
:arrow: they can't relate to the NPC masses, so networking is impossible or nearly impossible.

You don't need to relate to others to make them your friends.
You can just let them talk and talk and talk. When there's a pause, tell them how great it is whatever they are doing or ask them some minor detail, or even just repeat the last thing they said as a question.
NPC: I did x and then...
You: interrupts them, "you did x?" with a surprised face and incredulous tone of voice. Then slip in a compliment "how did you find the courage?" with a smile. You have to make yourself believe the lie or the delivery will look fake and they'll take offense to it. You want to look dumb all the time. To them, there's nothing better than a person dumber than them that they can lord over. Ask them for advice or help in solving some task. Doesn't matter if they refuse. It's important that they see you as inferior. While you do this, you want to be leading them stealthily. They are clueless and they want and need guidance but not if it hurts their ego. They subconsciously want someone to lead them to success by the most dumb and incompetent looking person. Now you can see why they elected Joe Biden. To us it doesn't make any sense but that's the reality.
I understand what you say. I can do this online, but offline is different. I can only talk offline with people I vibe with. Otherwise, any conversation ends in seconds for me. I don't vibe at all with people at such low levels of existence. It's also impossible to hide my disgusted face when I hear someone bragging about having spent the whole weekend drunk, stoned and partying, or having spent the day looking at cat/dog pictures, or hearing them complain all the time about work/illness/etc.
 
Stormblood said:
NinRick said:
Dahaarkan said:
Simply present is the same impulse that makes me pull a drowning animal out of the water. One is not required to pull a drowning dog out of a pool of water. Neither is one guilty if one does nothing and the dog drowns.

If someone lets a dog drown they are a psychopath. And if you do not safe it you are guilty of it’s death.

In many countries, the duty to rescue doesn't apply to humans, let alone animals. It is sad people need to be told by law that one should do that because their moral fibre is too low for them to understand. However, it's understandable, since we live in the age of "let's record and watch crime unfold" rather than finding a way to solve the situation appropriately. What your followers think is more important than stopping a bully, a criminal or whatever, either by directly supporting the victim or indirectly by getting an appropriate figure to intervene.

Oh yes so true. I was not talking from a legal view point, but of the view point of moral, ethics, nature and life.
 
Dahaarkan said:
NinRick said:
It is a bad analogy. Because you can safe a dog with very little risk and very easily. This is no effort. So if you do not safe it, you are a cruel psychopath.

You can not safe a soul yourself. Everyone safes their own soul. You can not really meditate for me for example.

Or are you saying if I quit to advance, you will just open up my energy path ways for me? I would appreciate that offer btw. Pls work esp on my Aura, I live the dense feeling.
You can do the same with all of my family as well, they do not meditate, and don’t want to advance, but hey, you wanna save many people right? So 10 people is easy peasy lemon squeezy for you. After that pls safe my country. I like German people. Then maybe Europe?

Do you get what I am trying to tell you? All you can do is to share information and the truth, and yes we do this, and yes this is very much needed. But even so, only a small fraction of people are being reached by that, and from them only few decide to listen, from whom a few seriously try to advance.

Even before the Jews souls were perishing, tho not to that extend. Why do you believe the Jews were able to infiltrate Egypt and destroy it from within to begin with? If most people were spiritual and were advancing seriously, this wouldn’t be possible at all. Only the elite of Humanity has the desire to advance spiritually, and this very little elite, used to be Kings, Emperors and Rulers in ancient times. This is how it has been, the strong strive and survive.

Of course it would be best if most humans wanted to seriously advance, but this is just naive.

Well, I do know the basis for this disagreement and I was hoping you'd realize this on your own.

Turn back the clock 3000 years or so and tell someone that the world will be dominated by a miniscule nomad tribe of deformed weaklings. That someone would tell you what you're telling me now, that there's no conceivable, logical or possible way for this to happen.


A Satanist using the word "can't" is such a lazy term and almost sinful if you ask me. You observe the conditions surrounding you and live by them, oblivious to the fact that to a Satanist, those conditions are as malleable as wet clay.

You are caged by conditions you observe and believe to be set in stone and unbreakable, I am not. This is why we disagree.


Anything and everything I set out to accomplish, I accomplish regardless of any conditions or what's in the way. The universe cannot sway me with conditions and excuses. If conditions don't permit my goal to come to fruition, then I change the conditions.

And all of us together, with Satan and the Gods supporting us, you'll be hard pressed to find something we "can't" do. The world will be exactly as we want it to be. We do not have to accept anything we do not want or do not like. Like I said to Stormblood, some of you underestimate the power we have, and the power Satan has.

The only limits to your power and agency in the world are the ones you yourself create in your mind.


If you or any genuine SS start to decay, I'll do what I can to talk sense into you, to motivate you and try to get you back on the right track, as I have done many times before to different people. I will not ignore and abandon you just because you weren't "strong enough" or any such bullshit. We all go through periods of darkness.

Likewise I do what I can to pull outsiders into the light and try to give them a chance to save themselves. I do not abandon them or celebrate when they fail and collapse.

In a similar fashion I do what I can to pull a drowning animal out of the water.


And in the event that my attempts fail, that you permanently lose your way or that the dog drowns, I don't sit back and see this as a positive thing that does anything to strengthen humanity. That would just be a shitty coping mechanism at best, apathy at worst.

If the drowning dog is an metaphor for human souls, all you do is to yell at the dog and tell him to get out. You are mostly talking about you, which is great, but doesn’t apply to other humans.

Yes you are right, you can just talk to people, but will the dog actually be able to understand you, while he is fighting for his life?
 
AgainstAllAuthority said:
Stormblood said:
:arrow: they can't relate to the NPC masses, so networking is impossible or nearly impossible.

You don't need to relate to others to make them your friends.
You can just let them talk and talk and talk. When there's a pause, tell them how great it is whatever they are doing or ask them some minor detail, or even just repeat the last thing they said as a question.
NPC: I did x and then...
You: interrupts them, "you did x?" with a surprised face and incredulous tone of voice. Then slip in a compliment "how did you find the courage?" with a smile. You have to make yourself believe the lie or the delivery will look fake and they'll take offense to it. You want to look dumb all the time. To them, there's nothing better than a person dumber than them that they can lord over. Ask them for advice or help in solving some task. Doesn't matter if they refuse. It's important that they see you as inferior. While you do this, you want to be leading them stealthily. They are clueless and they want and need guidance but not if it hurts their ego. They subconsciously want someone to lead them to success by the most dumb and incompetent looking person. Now you can see why they elected Joe Biden. To us it doesn't make any sense but that's the reality.

I‘d never let myself below them.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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