You do see it, but not with your physical eyesSurya4Satan said:When astral projecting, do you ''see'' all the action in front of your closed eyes or as visualization ( as in aura clearing meditation ) ?
Thank you...
With other words, is like visualization? No like the light when i close my eyes?Serbon said:You do see it, but not with your physical eyesSurya4Satan said:When astral projecting, do you ''see'' all the action in front of your closed eyes or as visualization ( as in aura clearing meditation ) ?
Thank you...
Surya4Satan said:Please help me...
Thank you very much, but ( sorry ) I still don't understand...NakedPluto said:Surya4Satan said:Please help me...
If you are asking, if you can use visualisation to astral project, the answer is no. You don't need and neither it is a good method to astral project by using your visualisation or sight in general.
You use your sensorial feeling of the body, and will it, intend it elsewhere. There is a good method JG Blackdragon posted as well as VoiceOfEnki.
However this comes with experience with meditation and also you need to have your body enriched with energy, by breathing exercises and advancement. I have spoke about this before.
If you are asking if you see or how you see when astral projecting, this has answers depending on your level. It is best to not focus on this, have any kind of expectation but see for yourself.
In my personal experience, you see everything dimmed and with low light, then in time I could see the contour of objects as an energy and aura, and then is the perfect vision which is more of an inward view than of the outside tryout. You can also experience no sight when a.p. as well, but just a "knowing" and other kind of orientation.
You can train to see with your eyes closed (with very little light), if you want, and it is easily achievable.
Depending on you point of focus, if focusing outward, you'll see a low quality version of your eye sight, but not limited as only that. The perspective and opening of the view is much greater, more in depth.
If you focus inwardly, you'll see beyond your eye possibility, but it will be a different experience than that of the eyes. The degree of realism and quality is also related to how aware and conscious you are during this.
Surya4Satan said:Thank you very much, but ( sorry ) I still don't understand...NakedPluto said:Surya4Satan said:Please help me...
If you are asking, if you can use visualisation to astral project, the answer is no. You don't need and neither it is a good method to astral project by using your visualisation or sight in general.
You use your sensorial feeling of the body, and will it, intend it elsewhere. There is a good method JG Blackdragon posted as well as VoiceOfEnki.
However this comes with experience with meditation and also you need to have your body enriched with energy, by breathing exercises and advancement. I have spoke about this before.
If you are asking if you see or how you see when astral projecting, this has answers depending on your level. It is best to not focus on this, have any kind of expectation but see for yourself.
In my personal experience, you see everything dimmed and with low light, then in time I could see the contour of objects as an energy and aura, and then is the perfect vision which is more of an inward view than of the outside tryout. You can also experience no sight when a.p. as well, but just a "knowing" and other kind of orientation.
You can train to see with your eyes closed (with very little light), if you want, and it is easily achievable.
Depending on you point of focus, if focusing outward, you'll see a low quality version of your eye sight, but not limited as only that. The perspective and opening of the view is much greater, more in depth.
If you focus inwardly, you'll see beyond your eye possibility, but it will be a different experience than that of the eyes. The degree of realism and quality is also related to how aware and conscious you are during this.
So will I see this as a dream or does it in front of closed eyes? I look like an idiot... :roll:
I have astral projected once in my life and once father satan tried to force me to do it again what I can tell is you literally leave your body no joke everything feels real and when you come back in your body you will feel a lot of electricity and heat as if you were taking a hot bathSurya4Satan said:When astral projecting, do you ''see'' all the action in front of your closed eyes or as visualization ( as in aura clearing meditation ) ?
Thank you...
Thank you. I tried last night for the first time and failed. My body felt paralyzed and after a few minutes I started to feel extreme fear, like there was someone else in the room. I was hearing all sorts of strange sounds and my name being called out by a nasty, bizarre voice. When this happened, I shuddered out of bed and it was over. I guess I should increase the protection. Do you have any other advice, please?NakedPluto said:Surya4Satan said:Thank you very much, but ( sorry ) I still don't understand...NakedPluto said:If you are asking, if you can use visualisation to astral project, the answer is no. You don't need and neither it is a good method to astral project by using your visualisation or sight in general.
You use your sensorial feeling of the body, and will it, intend it elsewhere. There is a good method JG Blackdragon posted as well as VoiceOfEnki.
However this comes with experience with meditation and also you need to have your body enriched with energy, by breathing exercises and advancement. I have spoke about this before.
If you are asking if you see or how you see when astral projecting, this has answers depending on your level. It is best to not focus on this, have any kind of expectation but see for yourself.
In my personal experience, you see everything dimmed and with low light, then in time I could see the contour of objects as an energy and aura, and then is the perfect vision which is more of an inward view than of the outside tryout. You can also experience no sight when a.p. as well, but just a "knowing" and other kind of orientation.
You can train to see with your eyes closed (with very little light), if you want, and it is easily achievable.
Depending on you point of focus, if focusing outward, you'll see a low quality version of your eye sight, but not limited as only that. The perspective and opening of the view is much greater, more in depth.
If you focus inwardly, you'll see beyond your eye possibility, but it will be a different experience than that of the eyes. The degree of realism and quality is also related to how aware and conscious you are during this.
So will I see this as a dream or does it in front of closed eyes? I look like an idiot... :roll:
As a dream.
You don't look like an idiot, you look like a dutiful SS, which is awesome.
Surya4Satan said:Thank you. I tried last night for the first time and failed. My body felt paralyzed and after a few minutes I started to feel extreme fear, like there was someone else in the room. I was hearing all sorts of strange sounds and my name being called out by a nasty, bizarre voice. When this happened, I shuddered out of bed and it was over. I guess I should increase the protection. Do you have any other advice, please?NakedPluto said:Surya4Satan said:Thank you very much, but ( sorry ) I still don't understand...
So will I see this as a dream or does it in front of closed eyes? I look like an idiot... :roll:
As a dream.
You don't look like an idiot, you look like a dutiful SS, which is awesome.
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