Re-examining the core principles of JoS

[Agartha]

Hello. I have some questions against the basic claims of JoS. These questions will start from creation and go up to the present day. For example, if I am now asking about creation, my next question will be about the formation of civilizations and beliefs. I have been SS for several years and some of these questions have been bothering me for several years. Because whoever I ask says that there is no complete and clear answer. Without further ado, let me move on to my questions. Spiritual Satanism has a claim of creation. Like in Sumerian mythology. Gods come and use human DNA to create modern man in a laboratory. SS says that by the time the gods came to earth, humanity was already extinct and they used the DNA of people who had died. If this is different, you can explain it in more detail. I know it is like this.
Now my questions come.
How long ago did the gods come? 30,000, 50,000, 200,000, or much earlier? I ask this for a reason. If humanity disappeared completely for a period of time, why and when did it happen? Is there any archaeological evidence for that?
Where were we created in the laboratory and in what stages and for how long?

We humans as 3 races are supposed to get 3 different DNAs. If whites are homosapiens and yellows are homoerectus, which primate are blacks? Evolutionists say that the most diversity is in Africa. It is said that the first humans were black and became white as they migrated northward. How do you explain this logically?
Do you think there was a stone age? If there was a stone age, even when these stone age people were hunter-gatherers, they developed some kind of beliefs according to the nature they were in. For example, they buried their dead and left objects on their graves. I'm talking about people who were walking around with spears hundreds of thousands of years ago. When they moved towards agriculture, they started to believe in "mother earth" and women were blessed. But after a while, when they switched to advanced irrigated agriculture, men took women's jobs and when women were no longer needed, the mother goddess was replaced by a patriarchal god, the sun god. Because now they could rule the land and the water, but not the sun. And this led to a fundamental change in their beliefs. From an outsider's point of view, the formation and development of beliefs seems to have happened in a very simple and ordinary way.
That's all my questions for now. I hope someone will be able to give a good and logical answer. I want a chronological answer.

I don't expect you to answer them in detail, but it would be great if you could explain them with a little bit of logical deduction and evidence. Thank you in advance.

 

[STanBlank]

I remember that the Indian Hopi mythology once mentioned that humans were divided into four races: red, yellow, black and white, and were scattered around the world.There are four races, not the three races mentioned in the forum now. I think Latin Americans and Indians may be the so-called red people. I think this theory is correct. Because the four races correspond to the four elements, four directions, four seasons, and four substances (the basic amino acids that make up DNA). This is Satan's way.I think there was a so-called primitive age, of course, after the Earth was attacked and the gods left, and the remaining humans began to reproduce again.The African continental migration theory is just bullshit new age materialistic science, they cannot explain the contents of relics buried deep underground, in China where I live they have even discovered relics of activities before 3600 BC, they may even be rewriting ancient history.

 

[Agartha]

I remember that the Indian Hopi mythology once mentioned that humans were divided into four races: red, yellow, black and white, and were scattered around the world.There are four races, not the three races mentioned in the forum now. I think Latin Americans and Indians may be the so-called red people. I think this theory is correct. Because the four races correspond to the four elements, four directions, four seasons, and four substances (the basic amino acids that make up DNA). This is Satan's way.I think there was a so-called primitive age, of course, after the Earth was attacked and the gods left, and the remaining humans began to reproduce again.The African continental migration theory is just bullshit new age materialistic science, they cannot explain the contents of relics buried deep underground, in China where I live they have even discovered relics of activities before 3600 BC, they may even be rewriting ancient history.

As you say, there may be 4 races. But I didn't ask how many races there are. If you say that humanity returned to the stone age after the world was attacked, then the situation becomes even more complicated. Did the gods abandon the world for centuries? Then how many centuries ago did they start our evolution? Actually, it would be great if these questions could be answered clearly. And 5,000 years ago is not that old. It is normal to find remains. Gobekli tepe is older. Can you explain the content of the remains buried deep underground, what are you talking about?

Which theory do you advocate instead of the African continental migration theory?

 

[Seeker in the Dark]

We do need more clarity regarding this.

Although all races according to the mainstream science anyway are homo sapien sapien and not seperate species as you claim.

“Caucasians”(Whites,Arabs,Indians,Latinos) have like 2% neanderthal DNA, Asians have some neaderthal and denisovan DNA. Blacks don’t have neaderthal or denisovan but have 20% unknown human DNA, supposedly homo erectus or a human species related to that line, with the rest for all 3 “races” being homo sapien sapien, basically the other human species were assimilated through inter-species breeding. This is according to “the science” which does have bias in it to promote a certain narrative and so will discard, ignore or explain alternatively any evidence that contradicts a purely natural origin to man.

As for how the Gods play into all this, I’ll leave it to people more knowledgeable than me on this, since the JOS mentions genetic engineering but what that exactly means I’m not sure.

 

[AFODO]

I know it is like this.

There could have been some humanoid specie living on earth before the Gods made us.

How long ago did the gods come?

Human history is probably around 40 000 years old.

If humanity disappeared completely

We didn't.

Where were we created in the laboratory and in what stages and for how long?

Whites probably existed before they come to Earth, the other races was made by genetic engineering which was likely a spiritual intervention rather than a physical, or both.
Whites are the closes descendant of the Gods and Black could be the closes descendant of the pre-humans on Earth, but this is just speculations.

humans were black and became white as they migrated northward

Very stupid, races don't evolve like that.

Do you think there was a stone age? If there was a stone age, even when these stone age people were hunter-gatherers, they developed some kind of beliefs according to the nature they were in. For example, they buried their dead and left objects on their graves. I'm talking about people who were walking around with spears hundreds of thousands of years ago. When they moved towards agriculture, they started to believe in "mother earth" and women were blessed. But after a while, when they switched to advanced irrigated agriculture, men took women's jobs and when women were no longer needed, the mother goddess was replaced by a patriarchal god, the sun god. Because now they could rule the land and the water, but not the sun. And this led to a fundamental change in their beliefs. From an outsider's point of view, the formation and development of beliefs seems to have happened in a very simple and ordinary way.
That's all my questions for now. I hope someone will be able to give a good and logical answer. I want a chronological answer.

The Gods were with us here on Earth when they created us, we weren't caveman, we were almost a perfect godly society, highly intelligent, until the enemy attacked us.
Pre-humans are not us, we are humans and always were, and I have no idea what they were like nor it's in my interest to know.

 

[Egon]

I think Latin Americans and Indians may be the so-called red people.

Latin Americans/Amerindians are of the Asiatic/yellow race, they aren't related to Indians. Amerindians migrated from Siberia to the Americas many thousands of years ago and some have 3% of different DNA admixture in them like Australian aboriginal and a few other mutations. Some are very very close to Asians and even the customs, songs and clothing look like those in Tibet and Mongolia. Brother Orientis has a more insights on this: https://ancient-forums.com/threads/...e-cutting-off-the-bullshit.85707/#post-442078

Modern Indians are a mix of Dravidians (a very dark race that resembles Blacks), Whites, and Asiatic peoples to different levels. You can see there are many different variations of Indians depending which amount of mix is there, they aren't a uniform race of people like Asians or Whites, and however you could generally call them an "Indian race" or sub-races.

Like Dravidians, there are some other sub-races of humans that don't fit in the "3 main races", and there are also some earthlings that weren't created by the Gods:

About Races That Aren't From The Enemy Or From The Gods [Updated]

In the planet there are many races and life often-times is a very complex instrument that most people just want to simplify. Our world is also lying and built upon the deception that "everyone is the same" and that "we are all humans" but the reality couldn't be further from the Truth. Ancient...

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[Henu the Great]

As for how the Gods play into all this, I’ll leave it to people more knowledgeable than me on this, since the JOS mentions genetic engineering but what that exactly means I’m not sure.

Genetic engineering is the manipulation of DNA. Since we are talking about Gods and not mere mortals with limited knowledge, the depth of their procedures is not fully known to us, but in principle, it is similar to editing computer code.

If there was a stone age, even when these stone age people were hunter-gatherers, they developed some kind of beliefs according to the nature they were in. For example, they buried their dead and left objects on their graves. I'm talking about people who were walking around with spears hundreds of thousands of years ago. When they moved towards agriculture, they started to believe in "mother earth" and women were blessed. But after a while, when they switched to advanced irrigated agriculture, men took women's jobs and when women were no longer needed, the mother goddess was replaced by a patriarchal god, the sun god. Because now they could rule the land and the water, but not the sun. And this led to a fundamental change in their beliefs. From an outsider's point of view, the formation and development of beliefs seems to have happened in a very simple and ordinary way.

Agriculture, architecture, calendar, and so forth were all taught to us by Gods and Demons when they worked in close physical proximity to us tens of thousands of years ago and earlier.

 

[tiajra13]

This response is going to be lengthy and I won't presume that you will see the History of Earth as I see it from what I felt was an accurate telling of the Truth of our Origins. I would like to recommend that you read a copy of a book authored by Zecharia Sitchin in 2002 titled "The Lost Book of Enki". Sumerian and Akkadian clay tablets; babylonian and Assyrian temple libraries; Egyptian, Hittite, and Canaanite "myths"; and the biblical narratives are the main body of the written-down memories of the affairs of Gods and men. For the first time ever, (this book), this dispersed and fragmented material has been assembled and used by Zecharia Sitchin to "re-create" the eyewitness account of Enki- the autobiographical memoirs and insightful prophecies of an extraterrestrial god. That Enki had recorded his autobiography is certain, for a long text (stretching over at least twelve tablets) discovered in the library of Nippur, quotes Enki as saying: "When I approached Earth, there was much flooding, When I neared its green meadows, heaps and mounds were piled up at my command. In a pure place I built my house, an appropriate name I gave it". The long text goes on to describe how Ea/Enki then assigned tasks to his leutenants, putting their Mission to Earth in motion. Numerous other texts that relate varied aspects of Enki's role in the ensuing developments serve to complete Enki's tale. A short summary follows.
Some 445,000 years ago, astronauts from the planet Nibiru came to Earth in search of gold; which was needed for a shield for their planets deteriorating atmosphere. They were short of manpower for the mining of gold, and the astronauts employed genetic engineering to fashion Primitive Workers- homo sapiens. The leader who had splashed down with the first group of astronauts had, at that time, an epithet-name which was E.A., "he Whose Home is Water". (Satan)...He experienced the disappointment at having command of the Earth mission given to his half-brother and rival, En.Lil. ("Lord of the Command" Also he is God of the Jews, Xtians, and Muslims) a humiliation little mitigated by granting E.A. the title of En.ki ( "Lord of Earth.) Relegated away from the cities of the gods and their spaceport in the "E.DIN" (Eden) to supervise the mining of the gold in the "AB.ZU" ( Southeastern Africa), it was E.A./Enki- a great scientist- who came across the shaggy haired hominids who inhabited those parts. And so when the Anunnaki (name of the race of extraterrestrial aliens) toiling away in the gold mines mutinied and said "No more", it was Enki who realized that the needed manpower could be obtained by "jumping the gun" on evolution thru genetic engineering, and thus did the "Adam" (literally "he of the Earth, Earthling) come into being. As a hybrid of hominid and small amounts of Anunnaki DNA, the "Adams" could not procreate (couldn't have children).
The second phase of genetic manipulation where DNA was taken straight from the ribs of the Anunnaki and thus providing the necessary chromosomal genes needed for sexual procreation. Mankind proliferated.
After approximately 33,000 earth years, Enki grew alarmed because with each succeeding generation the Earthlings (Primitive workers) were degrading back to their forebears as with wild and shaggy body hair. Enki has sex and impregnates two earthling females. By his sperm and natural sex, the anunnaki's "spark of Life" was infused into the newborns. The newborns (a boy, Adapa, and a girl, Titi) were perfect in Enki's image. No shaggy body hair and with exceptional intelligence. After being suckled by the earthling mothers, the two children were taken and raised by Enki. They were called "the first Civilised Man". Their offspring were taught how to farm and shepherd animals. They were taughtmany things that Primitive Workers had been unable to understand.
The book goes into pretty detailed information about all of the trials and errors encountered while trying to, bit by bit, get the DNA formula correct. There is so much more to this book. If you can, read it to discern for yourself which parts to believe from actual archeology findings, and whether to believe the "filled in" parts that seem so very plausible.

Hail Satan!!!!

 

[Egon]

Zecharia Sitchin in 2002 titled "The Lost Book of Enki".

That book is from a jewish bullshit conman, please ignore material from that "author"; Enlil is Beelzebul, Satan's brother and co-ruler of the Universe:

I do not think that Enki is Satan (theory).

it has been commonly accepted here that Satan is Enki and Zeus is Enlil, however based off recent revelations I think this is flawed, I believe Satan is the Sumerian God An, An is the "Supreme" God of the sky, representing boundless upwards power, he is the highest ranking of all Gods and had...

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[tiajra13]

hat book is from a jewish bullshit conman, please ignore material from that "author"; Enlil is Beelzebul, Satan's brother and co-ruler of the Universe:

There was no need to be so harsh. I gave disclaimers, but I believe in the probability that this book depicts our history with the Gods......And if it's bullshit, why do you believe in Enlil's existence? Do you prescribe to the book's teaching that Enlil and Enki are Anunnaki aliens? but believe he is Beelzebul and Satan's brother? I said the same thing about Enlil being Enki (satan's) half-brother.. but Enlil is the God of the Jews as he "chose" them, and the Muslims as Enlil raped a young girl child and was forced to marry her like their prophet. I don't care if it was written by a Jew. There have been a few Jews who have bucked the system and shared Jewish secrets. I believe he's one of those rare ones. Also, I think by telling you Enlil was designated as "Lord of the Command" as top dog, and that Enki was designated as "Lord of Earth" that I was showing they were co-rulers.

Before giving such a scathing response, next time read the material and make an honest decision as to whether the material possibly has merit when a fellow Spiritual Satanist goes out of their way to make a point. I believe in that book and NO ONE can change my mind. I recognized it as Truth and the God's were the one's who "nudged" me to go out on a limb and share my beliefs. This book re-enforces everything JoS and the Clergy have stated are our beliefs.....And I found the reference to "The Lost Book of Enki" in one of High Priestess Maxine's previous Sermons.

How about a public apology for your outright rudeness that stems from your not knowing enough to respond to the issue?

Agartha, I stand firmly by my recommendation to you. You can make your own decision what or how much of this book to believe. But it incorporates the beliefs that HPHC says are fact.

Egon, I can "break Bitch" with the best of them. I just usually prefer being a Being of Light and Love! You unfairly took the right of Agartha to decide for themselves by saying what you did, and attacked my reputation and reliability when this book was recommended by High Priestess Maxine in the first place!

Hail Satanas!!!!

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

There was no need to be so harsh. I gave disclaimers, but I believe in the probability that this book depicts our history with the Gods......And if it's bullshit, why do you believe in Enlil's existence? Do you prescribe to the book's teaching that Enlil and Enki are Anunnaki aliens? but believe he is Beelzebul and Satan's brother? I said the same thing about Enlil being Enki (satan's) half-brother.. but Enlil is the God of the Jews as he "chose" them, and the Muslims as Enlil raped a young girl child and was forced to marry her like their prophet. I don't care if it was written by a Jew. There have been a few Jews who have bucked the system and shared Jewish secrets. I believe he's one of those rare ones. Also, I think by telling you Enlil was designated as "Lord of the Command" as top dog, and that Enki was designated as "Lord of Earth" that I was showing they were co-rulers.

Before giving such a scathing response, next time read the material and make an honest decision as to whether the material possibly has merit when a fellow Spiritual Satanist goes out of their way to make a point. I believe in that book and NO ONE can change my mind. I recognized it as Truth and the God's were the one's who "nudged" me to go out on a limb and share my beliefs. This book re-enforces everything JoS and the Clergy have stated are our beliefs.....And I found the reference to "The Lost Book of Enki" in one of High Priestess Maxine's previous Sermons.

How about a public apology for your outright rudeness that stems from your not knowing enough to respond to the issue?

Agartha, I stand firmly by my recommendation to you. You can make your own decision what or how much of this book to believe. But it incorporates the beliefs that HPHC says are fact.

Egon, I can "break Bitch" with the best of them. I just usually prefer being a Being of Light and Love! You unfairly took the right of Agartha to decide for themselves by saying what you did, and attacked my reputation and reliability when this book was recommended by High Priestess Maxine in the first place!

Hail Satanas!!!!

This is completely nonsense.

For one, we don't believe that Satan or Baalzebul are Annunaki aliens. They are Gods, way outside of this scope. The whole story about Enlil and Enki is entirely misappropriated and completely misinterpreted by idiots, who turned it into some stupid sci-fi fantasy story which never happened.

One look at the story and everything falls apart, such as that Gods would require slaves, or that Satan and Baalzebul would somehow be opposed to each other. These are all nonsense and nothing more than typical slander by jews or typical misinterpretation and literal interpretation of ancient allegorical myths by unspiritual and godless idiots.

None of this has any relation to Spiritual Satanism, or to the teachings of Satanas and our Gods, it is just drivel written by humans, same as the bible and other nonsense books of the enemy and the godless cretins who live on the planet with us.

 

[logicalmind]

"Out of Africa" is a crock of shit. Theory of evolution by itself is not wrong, but is misused in ways hardly imaginable. Given millions of years, genetic mutations happening are significant enough to form into separate species. One does not need millions of years to notice those changes. Take professional athletes and their children. Professional athletes have higher chances of having children who are going to be professional athletes in the future as they have all the qualities needed for the pro career. Of course, social influence is not to be ignored, but without necessary qualities this influence of the parents would be useless. This is one example of potential evolution in 1-2 generations and can be clearly visible.

Similar disaster took place in physics where Einstein's hallucination of relativity became a dominant theory while in reality any somewhat working space agency does not use this bullshit at all as it does not work in reality. If vacuum is absolutely empty by Einstein, then why does this so-called "absolutely empty" vacuum possess dielectric permittivity which proves that vacuum by itself is not some empty space, but some substance that possesses explicit and measurable qualities?

But why is this disaster pushed on us? Jews do this to us, so we would be retarded and unable to understand reality as it is, and use it for our own purposes. Einstein's shit greatly reduced humanity's abilities to have effective space travel. Misunderstanding of evolution makes us unable to better understand ecosystems and how we should interact with each other. If we would have a better understanding, probably all of this "go green" shit would stop immediately, and more focus on actual pollution would be put. Shit with history makes humans tolerate jewish problem to the maximum extent possible. To such extent that evil like raping our own children gets tolerated, because these “poor jews express their suffering”.

So to understand our origins we first need to have correct premises about reality itself. If we believe in delusions, Gods will have a very hard time to give us the truth about our and Their origins as the first thing they will need to do is help us in getting rid of our delusions. So we need to ask SATANAS and other Gods to smash our own delusions in the best way possible for us, so the wider path for Truth would open to us.

 

[Henu the Great]

This response is going to be lengthy and I won't presume that you will see the History of Earth as I see it from what I felt was an accurate telling of the Truth of our Origins. I would like to recommend that you read a copy of a book authored by Zecharia Sitchin in 2002 titled "The Lost Book of Enki". Sumerian and Akkadian clay tablets; babylonian and Assyrian temple libraries; Egyptian, Hittite, and Canaanite "myths"; and the biblical narratives are the main body of the written-down memories of the affairs of Gods and men. For the first time ever, (this book), this dispersed and fragmented material has been assembled and used by Zecharia Sitchin to "re-create" the eyewitness account of Enki- the autobiographical memoirs and insightful prophecies of an extraterrestrial god. That Enki had recorded his autobiography is certain, for a long text (stretching over at least twelve tablets) discovered in the library of Nippur, quotes Enki as saying: "When I approached Earth, there was much flooding, When I neared its green meadows, heaps and mounds were piled up at my command. In a pure place I built my house, an appropriate name I gave it". The long text goes on to describe how Ea/Enki then assigned tasks to his leutenants, putting their Mission to Earth in motion. Numerous other texts that relate varied aspects of Enki's role in the ensuing developments serve to complete Enki's tale. A short summary follows.
Some 445,000 years ago, astronauts from the planet Nibiru came to Earth in search of gold; which was needed for a shield for their planets deteriorating atmosphere. They were short of manpower for the mining of gold, and the astronauts employed genetic engineering to fashion Primitive Workers- homo sapiens. The leader who had splashed down with the first group of astronauts had, at that time, an epithet-name which was E.A., "he Whose Home is Water". (Satan)...He experienced the disappointment at having command of the Earth mission given to his half-brother and rival, En.Lil. ("Lord of the Command" Also he is God of the Jews, Xtians, and Muslims) a humiliation little mitigated by granting E.A. the title of En.ki ( "Lord of Earth.) Relegated away from the cities of the gods and their spaceport in the "E.DIN" (Eden) to supervise the mining of the gold in the "AB.ZU" ( Southeastern Africa), it was E.A./Enki- a great scientist- who came across the shaggy haired hominids who inhabited those parts. And so when the Anunnaki (name of the race of extraterrestrial aliens) toiling away in the gold mines mutinied and said "No more", it was Enki who realized that the needed manpower could be obtained by "jumping the gun" on evolution thru genetic engineering, and thus did the "Adam" (literally "he of the Earth, Earthling) come into being. As a hybrid of hominid and small amounts of Anunnaki DNA, the "Adams" could not procreate (couldn't have children).
The second phase of genetic manipulation where DNA was taken straight from the ribs of the Anunnaki and thus providing the necessary chromosomal genes needed for sexual procreation. Mankind proliferated.
After approximately 33,000 earth years, Enki grew alarmed because with each succeeding generation the Earthlings (Primitive workers) were degrading back to their forebears as with wild and shaggy body hair. Enki has sex and impregnates two earthling females. By his sperm and natural sex, the anunnaki's "spark of Life" was infused into the newborns. The newborns (a boy, Adapa, and a girl, Titi) were perfect in Enki's image. No shaggy body hair and with exceptional intelligence. After being suckled by the earthling mothers, the two children were taken and raised by Enki. They were called "the first Civilised Man". Their offspring were taught how to farm and shepherd animals. They were taughtmany things that Primitive Workers had been unable to understand.
The book goes into pretty detailed information about all of the trials and errors encountered while trying to, bit by bit, get the DNA formula correct. There is so much more to this book. If you can, read it to discern for yourself which parts to believe from actual archeology findings, and whether to believe the "filled in" parts that seem so very plausible.

Hail Satan!!!!

These advanced beings would be able to transmute material according to their will with their minds and souls (not to mention technological advances that aid in this) so the whole idea "to mine gold" and whatever context around it is simply nonsense.

 

[Agartha]

Agriculture, architecture, calendar, and so forth were all taught to us by Gods and Demons when they worked in close physical proximity to us tens of thousands of years ago and earlier.

In those ancient times, agriculture was not very developed and the calendars were not accurate. Compared to today's calendars, they are off by a few days. How can the gods teach us something imperfect when they are right beside us?

Slavery also existed in the earliest ancient civilizations. I'm talking about civilizations like Sumer, Egypt, etc. Weren't the gods there with us, why didn't they stop it?

Some kings of the Sumerian civilization are shown as having lived and ruled for thousands of years. So what is the proof? Did he really live that many years?

In Egypt there were god-kings. If we think that those kings were really Gods, how did the grays (akhenaton) later infiltrate that dynasty?

Did the God-Kings of Egypt really marry their brothers and sisters so that their holy lineage would not be corrupted? There are other societies that practiced incestuous marriages in order to keep this sacred bloodline intact. How can this be?

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

In those ancient times, agriculture was not very developed and the calendars were not accurate. Compared to today's calendars, they are off by a few days. How can the gods teach us something imperfect when they are right beside us?

Slavery also existed in the earliest ancient civilizations. I'm talking about civilizations like Sumer, Egypt, etc. Weren't the gods there with us, why didn't they stop it?

Some kings of the Sumerian civilization are shown as having lived and ruled for thousands of years. So what is the proof? Did he really live that many years?

In Egypt there were god-kings. If we think that those kings were really Gods, how did the grays (akhenaton) later infiltrate that dynasty?

Did the God-Kings of Egypt really marry their brothers and sisters so that their holy lineage would not be corrupted? There are other societies that practiced incestuous marriages in order to keep this sacred bloodline intact. How can this be?

History is very long, with much of it completely lost to time. If you examine further what happened in history, beyond the writings of jews and the accepted narratives of historians, you will see a very different picture than what you expect.

When you look at the past, it is very abundantly clear that humanity was at one point significantly more advanced than any history books show, which was lost at a later point after a collapse of society due to external and internal factors. The surviving ancients have written about this in works related to Atlantis. There are a lot of gaps in history, even as recent as 2000 years ago, there are many missing years, even up to 800 years of history that is unknown, let alone anything prior to that.

Human history goes back around 72000 years. This is when the Gods first came in contact with Humans, as we understand this now. During these past 72000 years, civilization has gone through a lot of ebbs and flows. 12000 years ago, the world was far more advanced. Even the ancient Sumerians only came after the fall of the previous golden age when civilization was at its peak 12000 years ago.

It is fairly clear that humanity did go back to the stone age, after the fall of the golden age occurred. Humanity was by a large part left to develop on its own, with far less involvement by the Gods directly, due to factors of what happened in the prior age. The Gods did help the high people of the ages to develop technologies once again, relearn knowledge about all sections of societal development and management, both regarding material but also spiritual development.

Not all the Rulers of the past were Gods, or highly advanced people. Some were however, and they did live and rule for thousands of years. The proof is the written evidence by the Ancients who lived during these times themselves, and also the Gods that we know exist right now, and can be contacted by literally everyone on the planet. It is not particularly mysterious.

Why certain things are more or less perfect, despite being taught by the Gods, is due to the limitations of humans.
Gods are indeed perfect, but humans are not. How much we are able to learn and how well we are able to manifest the knowledge received from Them depends purely on the capability and dedication of the humans who receive the knowledge.

It is up to us to implement what we learn, the Gods do not do it for us. When they tried that, it failed, because of the hubris of humans. You can see what happens when beings with perfect knowledge and beyond human capabilities try to develop the world while the andrapodic masses are not able or ready to receive this. Nikola Tesla is a tragic example on this.

Another, Leonardo da Vinci's knowledge was far beyond the scope of the times, and almost everything Europe is build on today was received from Him, yet only a fraction of what he had to offer the world was received and manifested by the society of the time. It is similar through all ages. Great people far beyond the capacity of the society they incarnate into can only do so much, because people are not able to receive their knowledge properly, or continue to build on it with the same capacity.

Egyptian History is a complete mess, as all the knowledge from those times is left in ruins, very few written accounts remain and most of what is known actually comes from the writing of historians of the time from other nations. More than half of what you see is utter nonsense. When you examine the time of akhenaten, you can see the infiltration, or more accurately, the fall of the dynasty was a very long and slow process, that likely lasted hundreds of years, a slow degradation from the original values and spiritual hierarchy, which culminated in the rule of akhenaten by the end of it (tutamkhamon was the last remnant of this failure), after which there was a resurgence when more capable Souls once again reincarnated and rectified most of the errors of the prior times, especially Rameses II who gave Egypt another 800 years with his reign through helping the nation return to its spiritual roots first and foremost.


The alleged incest in Egyptian history is entirely bogus, and never happened at all. This results from historians misinterpreting a spiritual union as a literal marriage, and allegorical rites as literal weddings that we know today. They do not have a clue what they are looking at, and can only examine the Ancient world through the understanding they have of the world from their experience in the present times.

Misinterpretations and false literal interpretations happen all the time among idiotic historians looking at the Ancient societies, especially Ancient Greece, Egypt and Sumer, because they do not understand a thing that these Ancient civilizations were about, similar how they wouldn't understand a thing when you present them Spiritual Satanism.

Slavery is another example, which is very misunderstood. People think the slavery that is mentioned in Ancient Greece for example must be the same kind as the jewish slave trade of africans from recent history, but it is abundantly clear the two could not be any more different when you see how these were practiced back in the Ancient times, and how by our present day definition of the word there was in fact 0 slavery at all in the Ancient civilizations.

 

[Agartha]

History is very long, with much of it completely lost to time. If you examine further what happened in history, beyond the writings of jews and the accepted narratives of historians, you will see a very different picture than what you expect.

When you look at the past, it is very abundantly clear that humanity was at one point significantly more advanced than any history books show, which was lost at a later point after a collapse of society due to external and internal factors. The surviving ancients have written about this in works related to Atlantis. There are a lot of gaps in history, even as recent as 2000 years ago, there are many missing years, even up to 800 years of history that is unknown, let alone anything prior to that.

Human history goes back around 72000 years. This is when the Gods first came in contact with Humans, as we understand this now. During these past 72000 years, civilization has gone through a lot of ebbs and flows. 12000 years ago, the world was far more advanced. Even the ancient Sumerians only came after the fall of the previous golden age when civilization was at its peak 12000 years ago.

It is fairly clear that humanity did go back to the stone age, after the fall of the golden age occurred. Humanity was by a large part left to develop on its own, with far less involvement by the Gods directly, due to factors of what happened in the prior age. The Gods did help the high people of the ages to develop technologies once again, relearn knowledge about all sections of societal development and management, both regarding material but also spiritual development.

Not all the Rulers of the past were Gods, or highly advanced people. Some were however, and they did live and rule for thousands of years. The proof is the written evidence by the Ancients who lived during these times themselves, and also the Gods that we know exist right now, and can be contacted by literally everyone on the planet. It is not particularly mysterious.

Why certain things are more or less perfect, despite being taught by the Gods, is due to the limitations of humans.
Gods are indeed perfect, but humans are not. How much we are able to learn and how well we are able to manifest the knowledge received from Them depends purely on the capability and dedication of the humans who receive the knowledge.

It is up to us to implement what we learn, the Gods do not do it for us. When they tried that, it failed, because of the hubris of humans. You can see what happens when beings with perfect knowledge and beyond human capabilities try to develop the world while the andrapodic masses are not able or ready to receive this. Nikola Tesla is a tragic example on this.

Another, Leonardo da Vinci's knowledge was far beyond the scope of the times, and almost everything Europe is build on today was received from Him, yet only a fraction of what he had to offer the world was received and manifested by the society of the time. It is similar through all ages. Great people far beyond the capacity of the society they incarnate into can only do so much, because people are not able to receive their knowledge properly, or continue to build on it with the same capacity.

Egyptian History is a complete mess, as all the knowledge from those times is left in ruins, very few written accounts remain and most of what is known actually comes from the writing of historians of the time from other nations. More than half of what you see is utter nonsense. When you examine the time of akhenaten, you can see the infiltration, or more accurately, the fall of the dynasty was a very long and slow process, that likely lasted hundreds of years, a slow degradation from the original values and spiritual hierarchy, which culminated in the rule of akhenaten by the end of it (tutamkhamon was the last remnant of this failure), after which there was a resurgence when more capable Souls once again reincarnated and rectified most of the errors of the prior times, especially Rameses II who gave Egypt another 800 years with his reign through helping the nation return to its spiritual roots first and foremost.


The alleged incest in Egyptian history is entirely bogus, and never happened at all. This results from historians misinterpreting a spiritual union as a literal marriage, and allegorical rites as literal weddings that we know today. They do not have a clue what they are looking at, and can only examine the Ancient world through the understanding they have of the world from their experience in the present times.

Misinterpretations and false literal interpretations happen all the time among idiotic historians looking at the Ancient societies, especially Ancient Greece, Egypt and Sumer, because they do not understand a thing that these Ancient civilizations were about, similar how they wouldn't understand a thing when you present them Spiritual Satanism.

Slavery is another example, which is very misunderstood. People think the slavery that is mentioned in Ancient Greece for example must be the same kind as the jewish slave trade of africans from recent history, but it is abundantly clear the two could not be any more different when you see how these were practiced back in the Ancient times, and how by our present day definition of the word there was in fact 0 slavery at all in the Ancient civilizations.

There could not have been a better answer. Thank you very much. Can you explain how slavery was in ancient civilizations and give a source? Weren't slaves bought and sold?

 

[Antireligioso]

The Anunnaki Gods travel on huge spaceships, so they can come and go as often as they want to come to this earth. one of the first times was about 300,000 thousand years ago they write, in fact Enki is estimated to be 500,000 thousand years old (jos) physical, therefore in his probably last incarnation. estimate that about 300,000 years ago he bridled his genes with a sapiens, obtaining the first White humans. But looking at the Aryan migrations from India, he created a purer Nordic race (so they were then in India, pure Aryan Indians), which then remained intact in northern Europe, hence descendants of the Viking tribes, while in the south, the Gauls were already mixed with invaded local populations. So probably the most Aryan derive from a race obtained through artificial insemination, probably with seeding machines brought with spaceships. probably a few tens of thousands of years ago, but I could be wrong

 

[logicalmind]

Slaves were bought, sold, raped and tortured, but it appears that in reality Romans, Ancient Greeks and Ancient Egyptians had absolute zero of slaves. Correct me if I am wrong, but with Romans it seems pretty clear just by looking into the etymology of some words.

Romans called people "servus" and now this term on purpose by retarded "historians" gets mistranslated into "slave". In reality, "servus" is just a servant with a concrete agreement. It is also interesting to note the etymology for "servus". It appears that "servus" for Ancients meant actually "guardian" which by itself would be a pretty honorable position: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/servus#Etymology_5 . In other words, Rome had the following number of slaves: ABSOLUTE ZERO. We are lied to about Rome promoting slavery.

Before doing any conclusions about how Ancients lived and treated their own environment, we need to understand how they were thinking all by themselves. Mainstream promoted understanding is that Ancients somehow were stupid while in reality the opposite is true, i.e., majority of "modern" mainstream people are retarded andrapodas while in the past even illiterate peasants knew perfectly well what his/her place in society is. And everyone was happy about it as social mobility was not hijacked.

People should read a couple of books of Ancient Greek philosophers. For instance, one can read "The Republic" by Plato. If SS did not read this, I would highly recommend reading it. This would help to understand that democracy we have right now is a political syphilis like xianity is a spiritual one, and this also leads us into degradation. And also people will get hints of how Ancients really were thinking.

Of course, the Ancients made lots of mistakes (otherwise, this shit would never have happened), and we will definitely need to come to them, learn from them as deeply as possible if we want to actually ascend and succeed as a civilization. Each of us can probably focus on personal Godhood and some of such people might even succeed, but in my opinion this would be an extremely dick move, and I hope Gods would leave such people from knowledge for the time being until they would learn better. We need to be more social and reject this ultra-individualistic nonsense. Individualism and working as a team should be balanced. I believe in humanity's potential to ascend into Godhood as a civilization. We suffered excruciating disasters through those thousands of years, and we still are here. Some of us were burned alive through our lifetimes by this church of that filthy jew on a stick, even saw our own children mutilated, tortured, raped in those lifetimes. And we still are here, did not surrender to death. We still embrace life, and try becoming the best versions ourselves, try helping other people as best as we can. This by itself proves that the enemy absolutely underestimated the potential of humanity. And this will be their demise.

 

[Antireligioso]

a God told me that any psychic, can download advanced technology patents from thousands of advanced civilizations, if not millions of years, the patents of advanced technology have been there since Tesla was there, the speech is who keeps civilization at a point of land just working to pay like rents. so you become slaves to other humans, moreover energy bills are expensive,they could be free .. so watch out for the government because they are paid to keep everyone submissive of the god of money, so it's only the fault of the government of reptilians and Jewish families. in comparison in the Middle Ages despite the terrible things, but they had more daily life than today, on average .. it means that average human daily life has become work .. on average ..

 

[Wotanwarrior]

Egyptian History is a complete mess, as all the knowledge from those times is left in ruins, very few written accounts remain and most of what is known actually comes from the writing of historians of the time from other nations. More than half of what you see is utter nonsense. When you examine the time of akhenaten, you can see the infiltration, or more accurately, the fall of the dynasty was a very long and slow process, that likely lasted hundreds of years, a slow degradation from the original values and spiritual hierarchy, which culminated in the rule of akhenaten by the end of it (tutamkhamon was the last remnant of this failure), after which there was a resurgence when more capable Souls once again reincarnated and rectified most of the errors of the prior times, especially Rameses II who gave Egypt another 800 years with his reign through helping the nation return to its spiritual roots first and foremost.

Surely the degradation of the spiritual hierarchy in Egypt began after the XII dynasty when Egypt was invaded by the Hyksos.

 

[Agartha]

Surely the degradation of the spiritual hierarchy in Egypt began after the XII dynasty when Egypt was invaded by the Hyksos.

How did the gods allow this invasion? Also, weren't both civilizations pagan, why didn't they live in peace?

 

[tiajra13]

This is completely nonsense.

For one, we don't believe that Satan or Baalzebul are Annunaki aliens. They are Gods, way outside of this scope. The whole story about Enlil and Enki is entirely misappropriated and completely misinterpreted by idiots, who turned it into some stupid sci-fi fantasy story which never happened.

One look at the story and everything falls apart, such as that Gods would require slaves, or that Satan and Baalzebul would somehow be opposed to each other. These are all nonsense and nothing more than typical slander by jews or typical misinterpretation and literal interpretation of ancient allegorical myths by unspiritual and godless idiots.

None of this has any relation to Spiritual Satanism, or to the teachings of Satanas and our Gods, it is just drivel written by humans, same as the bible and other nonsense books of the enemy and the godless cretins who live on the planet with us.

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My response:
On the MAIN page of Joy of Satanas website, there are boxes with pictures in them. The first one says "WELCOME" click on that and at the bottom of that screen there is a link for the Origins of Satanism. In that document, you will find the following:

The one known as "Satan" is our True Creator God. He was prevented by the other Gods from finishing his work on humanity, that of the godhead. The godhead is physical and spiritual perfection. Now, if you continue to read on, I will prove this.


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The serpent is seen everywhere in ancient relics and structures. The serpent was held sacred in all areas of the ancient world. Satan is the God Ea, aka ENKI, one of the first of the Nephilim to arrive on this planet and establish the first civilization. In Sumerian mythology, Enki's symbol was always the serpent.

The era in which the original religions reigned was known as the "Golden Age." Some 10,000 years ago, the Gods left us. This article is not to go into the details as to how or why. This will be covered in a separate article. The Gods are an extraterrestrial race of beings. As a matter of fact, there have been several different alien races that have lived here on planet Earth, and have taken an interest in human beings, either as friends, enemies, or neutrals.

The main Gods who interacted with humanity and are our creators (through genetic engineering) are the race of Gods known as the Nordics. They live throughout the galaxy in several different solar systems. They are highly advanced in knowledge, intelligence, and in spirit. Some are helpful to humans as are Satan and the Elder Gods who have been labeled as “Demons.” Some are neutral and others are and have been working for our destruction. The background concerning the creation can be found in more detail in separate articles on this website. There has been a war over humanity in which Satan and his Demons wish to give us the knowledge to elevate ourselves to spiritual and physical perfection, while the enemy wishes to keep us spiritually ignorant in order to use our life force (souls) as a free energy supply. In many writings of a spiritual or occult nature, the term "God" or "Gods" was also used to describe the seven chakras. Due to centuries of persecution of those who had spiritual knowledge, doctrines contained many allegories and code words. The number "seven" is repeated endlessly in the Judeo/Christian bible. This is a corruption of the seven chakras of the soul.

Each of the Jewish characters and archetypes in the Bible are imposters stolen from Pagan Gods. "Jesus" is NOT a real being, but a CONCEPT. For those deluded Christians who believe they have experienced "Jesus" in reality, they are communing with nefarious extraterrestrial beings. Aleister Crowley while in a trance state, drew a picture of what is known to be "Jehova" (a corruption of "YHVH" another rip-off of the four quarters and elements, making the 'name' pronounceable) and drew a grey. At that time, knowledge of ET's was not widespread and photos of them were non-existent. These same beings are said to have made a deal with the Vatican: souls in exchange for wealth and power in the hands of a few. To accomplish this end, all spiritual knowledge had to be removed. No scam can succeed if the victim has knowledge. In order to be effectively victimized, one must be unknowing. Satan is the bringer of knowledge and enlightenment. He has nothing to hide.

Satan tells us in the Black Book (The Al Jilwah), that many writings and texts have been altered. Upon researching the origins of various myths and religions, I find many authors are at a disagreement, both religious and secular. This is due to the Christian Church's systematic destruction and removal of ancient knowledge. To make matters worse, many of the remaining original documents that escaped destruction have been altered.

The Gods left us the truth, inscribed in stone.

The pyramids (the pyramids are in the shape of the chakras) have stood against time. It is apparent these ancient monoliths were constructed for future humanity, left to us by the Gods who knew of our fate. These monuments speak for themselves. They were built to reflect the movements of the stars and act as a calendar for beginning the all-important work of the Magnum Opus. The Magnum Opus is normally commenced in the spring, when the Sun enters the sign of Aries, which is known as the "Vernal Equinox." The precise time for beginning this work is at 3 am, which is the hour of Satan. This is the true hour. The fictitious nazarene was said to have perished at 3 pm. 3 pm is actually 15:00, not three and is thus false.

The "Horned God" originates from Sumeria. The Sumerian Gods wore headgear with horns. This predates Judeo/Christianity by thousands of years. Pagan religions were known for their worship of the Horned God. Only with the coming of Christianity, were they repeatedly stamped out, but continued to resurface and survive. Again, the Horned God was maligned and labeled as "evil".
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All of the above are from the same welcome document that states our beliefs. The document is much longer. Please re-acquaint yourself with it, Justice Guardian. The "Lost Book of Enki" is written on stone tablets and interpreted/translated by many other than Zechariah Sitchin. I just happen to like the probabilities he comes up with. There are some "altered" things in the book, but you have to determine for yourself what doesn't ring true within your soul. That's what I was getting at. It's still a valuable read.

Hail Satanas!!!

 

[tiajra13]

Also, there are many different videos on Enki that can be found on YouTube. One version that has some differences from the book is in 4 parts. They can be found with "SEARCH" words: Anunnaki 1, Anunnaki 2, Anunnaki 3, and Anunnaki 4.

Hail Satanas!!!!

 

[ManWithName]

Enki - the comet thrower?

 

[Wotanwarrior]

How did the gods allow this invasion? Also, weren't both civilizations pagan, why didn't they live in peace?

That they were both pagans does not mean that they were the same. The Hyksos barely had a culture, they were nomadic and were much less spiritually developed than the Egyptians.

 

[MercuryWisdom]

That they were both pagans does not mean that they were the same. The Hyksos barely had a culture, they were nomadic and were much less spiritually developed than the Egyptians.

Hyksos were basically gypsies, of that region.

 

[Karnonnos [JG]]

Egypt never practiced slavery and was the only civilization on Earth not to do so. Egyptians considered other civilizations to be barbaric not only 'because' of slavery but because people within them permitted themselves to be slaves. This is similar to the kind of attitude Americans often have towards foreigners for being 'subjects'.

For this, they were portrayed as the ultimate slavers and torturers by the slave race par excellence in the story of Joseph and Moses. In Joseph's story, the Egyptians all end up as slaves.

Britain 'abolished' slavery globally by forcing slavers to recant and stop. No one gives a single fuck about that these days, in fact they find a way to blame the British for doing this while begging to import 10 million people from a place where slavery is a day-to-day reality. Nietzsche predicted this would happen.

A true state of general humanity necessary for any 'abolition' is achieved by the indebted (slaves) not desiring being in the safety of the palm of the creditor (slaver) anymore and actually having independent lives instead of being lazy or passive, not just throwing venom on the slaver for being cruel. Andrapoda will just do whatever and will reinstate it willingly.

By the way, there are many types of slavery in this world and 'the next' that have never been abolished, some of which last lifetimes or are endless on the Astral. Some we know of are even novel forms of slavery. A 800lb blob in a bed eating themselves to death would be unthinkable 100 years ago.

 

[Decius]

This, I think, is a balanced description of slavery in ancient Athens:

The adult male population in the city-state of Athens was calculated as follows:
fifty thousand citizens, twenty-five thousand resident aliens, one hundred thousand slaves (...)
Slaves enjoyed no rights, and were the property of the state or individuals.
(...)
They were either born slaves or had been taken prisoners, in war or by pirates, and sold, almost all of them were barbarians, that is, non-Greeks: making slaves of Greeks was considered immoral and happened very rarely.
(...)
It should not be assumed that slaves were all treated inhumanely. A writer of the V, of retrogressive tendencies, said:
“Now, as for slaves and metics, in Athens they lead an entirely undisciplined life, and it is not permitted to strike them, nor will a slave give way to you. I will tell you the reason for this local custom: if the law allowed you to strike a slave, a metic or a freedman (=a freed slave), many times he would strike an Athenian believing him to be a slave; for as to dress people are not distinguished at all in Athens from slaves and metics, nor even in appearance” (Pseudo-Xenophon, The Constitution of the Athenians, I. 10).
Slaves and citizens often worked together and received the same pay, as we learn from inscriptions referring to the construction of public buildings. It could also happen that slaves set aside enough money to buy freedom from their masters, although this was not as common in Athens as in Rome.

(Luigi Miraglia, Athenaze pp 33-34;translated from Italian by deepl).

Slaves could be initiated into the Eleusinian mysteries:
The only requirements for membership were freedom from "blood guilt",[46] meaning never having committed murder, and not being a "barbarian" (being unable to speak Greek). Men, women, and even slaves were allowed initiation.[47]

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusinian_Mysteries)


However, I also wanted to tell you that I have the impression that what you are discussing are not core principles to be looked at dogmatically.

 

[Decius]

if the law allowed you to strike a slave, a metic or a freedman (=a freed slave), many times he would strike an Athenian believing him to be a slave; for as to dress people are not distinguished at all in Athens from slaves and metics, nor even in appearance” (Pseudo-Xenophon, The Constitution of the Athenians, I. 10).

* if the law allowed a men to strike a slave, a metic or a freedman (=a freed slave), many times he would strike an Athenian believing him to be a slave; for as to dress people are not distinguished at all in Athens from slaves and metics, nor even in appearance”.

 

[Homer]

He experienced the disappointment at having command of the Earth mission given to his half-brother and rival, En.Lil. ("Lord of the Command" Also he is God of the Jews, Xtians, and Muslims)

FYI Enlil is not the god of the jews, he is on Satan's side. Not even the Lost Book of Enki says that. If you read the Lost Book of Enki right to the end, in the 14th tablet it says that Enki and Enlil hug each other and are no longer enemies.

"Let us lock arms as brothers, as comrades who together challenges on an alien planet confronted!

So did Enki to his brother say.

And Enlil, grasping his brother's arm hugged him as well."

-From the Lost Book of Enki, near the end.

This same thing of the reconciliation of Enki and Enlil is mentioned in other myths, like the Atrahasis story.

The fact is that Yahweh was not in any ancient Pagan religions. It is a new, made up jewish god. All the Pagan Gods were on the same side, despite any fights they had with each other. Even Horus and Set are on the same side.

 

[Homer]

Evolutionists say that the most diversity is in Africa. It is said that the first humans were black and became white as they migrated northward. How do you explain this logically?

That's a politically correct theory that exists only in the West and has been debunked. The majority of the Chinese biologists don't believe in the "out of Africa" theory, by the way. They believe that the races all involved independently, which makes the most sense.

In those ancient times, agriculture was not very developed and the calendars were not accurate. Compared to today's calendars, they are off by a few days. How can the gods teach us something imperfect when they are right beside us?

As the JoS site says, the Gods left 10k years ago. The Sumerians flourished around 5k-3k years ago. So this was after the Gods left. Also the linear view of history is wrong. Humanity didn't start from nothing and continuously got better until now, but there were ancient civilizations that fell (like Atlantis and Lemuria) and after their fall people went to a lower state and they had to reinvent things. We're now rediscovering what was lost technology, not inventing new things. History is cyclical.

Slavery also existed in the earliest ancient civilizations. I'm talking about civilizations like Sumer, Egypt, etc. Weren't the gods there with us, why didn't they stop it?

Again, these ancient civilizations you're talking about were 5k years old ago. They flourished after the Gods left. They were also not the earliest, only the earliest accepted by modern historians. There were civilizations much older than that.

There is evidence that there was a global advanced civilization that got wiped out about 10k years ago, exactly when the Gods left. Read the books Fingerprints of the Gods and Magicians of the Gods by Graham Hancock, as they explain this concept in more detail.