Question #2492: regarding the dangers of power meditation

[AskSatanOperator]

I am from India ..I have read all the topics written in JoS ..Yet my doubt is here in India there are so many and many ashrams like brahmakumaris ,,sathguru,baba ramdev etc who also teach yoga and certain meditations ..But all these ashrams actually advise anti worldly life style like NOT be lovers of money ,have no great ambition or goals in life ,forgiveness ,living a hermit(poor life) sitting in himalayas or under all these ashrams ..Because of seeing all these people since a very young age ,I have a very negative impression about meditation ...will the power meditations in satanism also make one become a hermit ,forsaking this world and all the things of this world and make one not have any ambition or goals to achieve in life?can anybody plz assure me that doing power meditations consistently wont ever hinder me in my materialistic pursuit of money,riches ,name ,fame ,success ..

what is also the reason I have such negative hang up about meditation and yoga ..if power meditations is really fine ,,how do i remove the negative hang up I have regarding meditations and yoga ?

 

[AskSatanOperator]

I am very VERY new to satanism ..I have read all the articles written in the main article JoS ..Yet I do NOT know why I have a VERY NEGATIVE hangup about BOTH meditation and yoga since the people whoever I have seen doing it become VERY VERY LESS materialistic and worldly ..Also most of the people who do Yogas both in media and in offline say to NOT love money,Forgive people ,suffer and absolve your karma etc etc ..Their way of BOTH yoga and meditation seems to REMOVE your attachments even to the GOOD things of this world like name,fame,riches ,luxury..

I am REALLY interested in satanism a LOT but I see satanism also is about doing POWER MEDITATION AND YOGA ..Please do NOT mistake me anybody when these people (outsiders) are doing yoga and meditation tend to REALLY live an anti worldly life ,,How will doing power meditation and kundalini yoga NOT make u anti worldly??That is why I really want the feedback of experience of experienced satanists who have dedicated years with satanism and also love the good things of this world and are focussed on their physical and materialistic goals ?I mean I am a VERY ambitious person and I do NOT want to compromise with my goals ever ..That is why I have asked this question many times .If somebody replies me well ,I will be REALLY convinced that satanism is perfect for me and power meditation will NEVER hinder my physical life BUT will HELP ME both physically and spiritually

 

[HPS Lydia]

Hello

Look within yourself. Satanism feels right? Then that's all you need to go by. Follow your inner light.

But to answer you, those people don't become anti-materialists just from yoga, it's also from the corrupted manuscripts they read, and enemy programing, thoughtforms, and so on.

I've been doing yoga (hatha and KY) for a very long time. It did not hinder me at all, when it comes to ambition, material desires, and so on. It actually made my physical life better, more easy to manage.

This is all that I will write, because you need to follow your own heart. I do not try to convince people to join, I just present my own experience, and encourage people to grow and advance in their own way, under the guidance and will of Satan

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

Your negative opinions could have come from either this life or past lives. It is normal for people to have strange ideas, even if they do not clearly know what caused them. Outside of India, Christian programming can result in someone being very fearful that meditation sends them to Hell, and so on.

As you practice this yourself, you will find the tangible evidence that meditation is an empowerment technique, not one that detracts from yourself. This is something that grows the more you stay on this path, too.

What these outsiders are doing is not Satanism at all, nor can the meditations be seen as healthy. They specifically meditate on feeling their being dissolve into the "Oneness", for example. This is the clear opposite of empowering your chakras and feeling your OWN BEING vibrating, as HPS Maxine describes.

I have been meditating and doing spiritual work for close to 4 years now and the benefits from these transformations has made me even more social, outgoing, driven, and so on. For example, as social hangups are removed, we become more able to easily connect with others.

As more examples of spiritual work we do, you can see the two pages I made about spiritual work involving the energy of the Sun and Mars:
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76205
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85939

Each of these clearly establish your personal power and ambition; the opposite of what these false Yogi's teach. You will also see many people doing wealth rituals. JoS has multiple group rituals for improving our material benefit as well. It is actively thought that we NEED material growth. Material growth is a reflection of the soul's advancement. It is impossible for you to suffer in these ways by practicing this path.

 

[Ginnarr]

You mistakenly seem to think that those people who don't love money and live in ashrams e.t.c. do that because they meditate, yet it's the other way round: these "gurus" first teach you that you need to renounce things, blinidly obey your "guru" and follow suicidal teachings before even starting to practice meditation. Don't believe me? Ask any yogi or "guru". Read the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali where it states that Niyamas and Yamas (which contain some suicidal teachings like renunciation, celibacy, non-violence) e.t.c. should be taken up before even starting meditating.

I'm not Indian, but I can tell you that because I've researched this topic extensively. These people renounce things because of extra teachings they follow that each "guru" passes to his disciples, not merely because they meditate.

Instead of looking to those people, look to many Westerners instead (many of whom are not even Satanists) who practice meditation, yoga e.t.c. for decades and they never renounce anything but live normal lives. Start researching this topic and asking Westerners. Simply put, Westerners meditate, practice yoga while they live normal lives. Do you know why this is so? Because they don't follow the suicidal teachings of the yogis about abstinence, celibacy e.t.c. Because meditation doesn't make you renounce the world, those stupid "spiritual" yogic teachings do.

If you just practice those things without following the teachings of those fools you mention, nothing will happen to you. Just focus on the practices and ignore any "advice" or "spiritual teachings" these fools give you and all will be fine.

 

[Ginnarr]

If you just practice those things without following the teachings of those fools you mention, nothing will happen to you. Just focus on the practices and ignore any "advice" or "spiritual teachings" these fools give you and all will be fine.

It's also a mistake to compare the meditation we do with that those spiritual charlatans do.

First of all, meditation is just a means to an end. The purpose of meditation is the one you give it.

If your purpose is to dissolve your soul, remove all your materiality, escape from the material world and become one with "brahman", that's what you're doing it for. That's what these yogis do, and the type of meditation they do focuses on that end: the concentrate on something until their "ego" dissolves and get a feeling of bliss and oneness with everything (which they call samadhi) and try to stay in that state as long as possible.

Again, as I said, I'm not Indian but I've researched what these yogis believe and do extensively and you can find the same things if you also do your research.

We Satanists, on the other hand, find that "samadhi" dangerous and suicidal. We don't seek a blissful state or eternal bliss or oneness or dissolve our individual self. Our purpose is to become Gods and balance the spiritual with the material and to empower our individual selves. The type of meditations we do focus on training our minds and empowering our souls so that we become powerful, overcome fate and death and even reach immortality. We also practice power meditation so that our soul has enough power to use magick to control the material world according to our desires.

It's not the same thing, we practice very different things for entirely different purposes.

Which is why it's recommended to research things and also practice the type of meditation we do and see for yourself.

 

[Henu the Great]

If you just practice those things without following the teachings of those fools you mention, nothing will happen to you. Just focus on the practices and ignore any "advice" or "spiritual teachings" these fools give you and all will be fine.

It's also a mistake to compare the meditation we do with that those spiritual charlatans do.

First of all, meditation is just a means to an end. The purpose of meditation is the one you give it.

If your purpose is to dissolve your soul, remove all your materiality, escape from the material world and become one with "brahman", that's what you're doing it for. That's what these yogis do, and the type of meditation they do focuses on that end: the concentrate on something until their "ego" dissolves and get a feeling of bliss and oneness with everything (which they call samadhi) and try to stay in that state as long as possible.

Again, as I said, I'm not Indian but I've researched what these yogis believe and do extensively and you can find the same things if you also do your research.

We Satanists, on the other hand, find that "samadhi" dangerous and suicidal. We don't seek a blissful state or eternal bliss or oneness or dissolve our individual self. Our purpose is to become Gods and balance the spiritual with the material and to empower our individual selves. The type of meditations we do focus on training our minds and empowering our souls so that we become powerful, overcome fate and death and even reach immortality. We also practice power meditation so that our soul has enough power to use magick to control the material world according to our desires.

It's not the same thing, we practice very different things for entirely different purposes.

Which is why it's recommended to research things and also practice the type of meditation we do and see for yourself.

I do not hold the same view about samadhi (superconscious state, essentially). It depends on how one approaches it. As you have learned there is corruption about dissolving oneself. When there is a strong individuality, there is no problem with reaching samadhi.

 

[Henu the Great]

We Satanists, on the other hand, find that "samadhi" dangerous and suicidal.

"God" is additionally a title for people who have successfully attained this rising towards this level of existence. The "Union with God" is also called Samadhi, from the word Sam and Adi, which means to bring the mind and the soul together in communion. That state of existence is a holy state in which man understands his own spiritual inner essence, reaching self realization.

https://satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Union_With_Gawd.html