Question #2289: Short workings?

[AskSatanOperator]

Recently a member dispelled a bit of the whole 40/90 or more day working, stating short term goals. General forum section.

My question is what exactly constitutes a short working and what exactly makes the energy "stick" and "unstick" over time to gain such item?

If I GET the item does the energy go POOF right away. My "wish" so to speak is fulfilled and thus it goes away. Or does it still bleed out over time?

I'm wanting to wrap my head around magick. Am I wrong in believing *UNLESS* I do 40/90 or more days, it's moot and pointless.

Is it possible that as someone who doesn't wish to burn out or fry themselves that I can do something smaller say 3-9 days and work on it?

I've become aware magick is like a turbo/super -charging technology. It boosts rather than outright manifests a pathway. We have to trudge ahead and physically encounter the reality we want. But I've also had the opposite thought of is it because I focus so much mentally that I go ahead and get is it my obsessive mindset to want to get it thus I get it.

I know mental intensity is a form of potential magick, some do focus heavily on mentally bringing to them, dwelling. But am I wrong in that I feel like magick is pointless as I have the capacity to get it without magick?

What exactly is magick for is it more for perusing something. For example say I want X but I notice attraction to object Y a similar but better object. Is that how it is?

I'm sorry if this question seems silly but what exactly is "magick" when it comes to material gains. Is it simply a benefactor? I'm sorry but I kinda feel like magick should only be reserved for major things imagine getting an artwork that cost you 150 dollars or for free and it's worth 800 or 1000 dollars.

Am I wrong in assuming magick is only for major, important, wealth/financial and or personal stuff, correct, I'm wrong right?

Or is magick useful for even small things? Say I like a drink can I do something whereby this drink is passed to me in a cheap, affordable, and or free manner or for example I encounter people giving me this drink over time and periods of life?

Again this is whereby I feel like I don't really understand the rules and regulations of magick. How exactly would a short term or a limited magickal effect help.

What are the limits?

Could I breath in a color or do some runes and tell it for the day please provide me with discipline or willpower or energy or exactly how playful is magick?

Is there such a thing as taking it overboard? No I don't mean overcharged or ungroundedness no I mean literally like could I program too many things in a short period of time and be all conflated by the process?

I'm probably overcomplicating things but I want to know just how should a small or tiny working be?

I kinda get the feeling "magick" is pointless except programming stuff to clean, protect, and yogic works for example performing Hatha and programming the energy to purify the nadi network as Yoga burns dross in the nadis and your adding to the fire of cleaning.

I kinda get this odd sensation that we shouldn't, not out of fear or limitations or issues or negative programming. But I kinda get the feeling we shouldn't manipulate reality or get stuff from reality due to woefully lacking the teachings of the Gods.

Do the Gods teach manipulation of reality in their Worlds to people at any age or is it more like work on yourself and focus on yourself And THEN manipulate reality with magick and small workings or long workings when your more advanced and invested in your soul.

Excuse the negative attitude not trying to cause issues. Just curious on short workings.

Thanks!

 

[Henu the Great]

Recently a member dispelled a bit of the whole 40/90 or more day working, stating short term goals. General forum section.

My question is what exactly constitutes a short working and what exactly makes the energy "stick" and "unstick" over time to gain such item?

If I GET the item does the energy go POOF right away. My "wish" so to speak is fulfilled and thus it goes away. Or does it still bleed out over time?

I'm wanting to wrap my head around magick. Am I wrong in believing *UNLESS* I do 40/90 or more days, it's moot and pointless.

Is it possible that as someone who doesn't wish to burn out or fry themselves that I can do something smaller say 3-9 days and work on it?

I've become aware magick is like a turbo/super -charging technology. It boosts rather than outright manifests a pathway. We have to trudge ahead and physically encounter the reality we want. But I've also had the opposite thought of is it because I focus so much mentally that I go ahead and get is it my obsessive mindset to want to get it thus I get it.

I know mental intensity is a form of potential magick, some do focus heavily on mentally bringing to them, dwelling. But am I wrong in that I feel like magick is pointless as I have the capacity to get it without magick?

What exactly is magick for is it more for perusing something. For example say I want X but I notice attraction to object Y a similar but better object. Is that how it is?

I'm sorry if this question seems silly but what exactly is "magick" when it comes to material gains. Is it simply a benefactor? I'm sorry but I kinda feel like magick should only be reserved for major things imagine getting an artwork that cost you 150 dollars or for free and it's worth 800 or 1000 dollars.

Am I wrong in assuming magick is only for major, important, wealth/financial and or personal stuff, correct, I'm wrong right?

Or is magick useful for even small things? Say I like a drink can I do something whereby this drink is passed to me in a cheap, affordable, and or free manner or for example I encounter people giving me this drink over time and periods of life?

Again this is whereby I feel like I don't really understand the rules and regulations of magick. How exactly would a short term or a limited magickal effect help.

What are the limits?

Could I breath in a color or do some runes and tell it for the day please provide me with discipline or willpower or energy or exactly how playful is magick?

Is there such a thing as taking it overboard? No I don't mean overcharged or ungroundedness no I mean literally like could I program too many things in a short period of time and be all conflated by the process?

I'm probably overcomplicating things but I want to know just how should a small or tiny working be?

I kinda get the feeling "magick" is pointless except programming stuff to clean, protect, and yogic works for example performing Hatha and programming the energy to purify the nadi network as Yoga burns dross in the nadis and your adding to the fire of cleaning.

I kinda get this odd sensation that we shouldn't, not out of fear or limitations or issues or negative programming. But I kinda get the feeling we shouldn't manipulate reality or get stuff from reality due to woefully lacking the teachings of the Gods.

Do the Gods teach manipulation of reality in their Worlds to people at any age or is it more like work on yourself and focus on yourself And THEN manipulate reality with magick and small workings or long workings when your more advanced and invested in your soul.

Excuse the negative attitude not trying to cause issues. Just curious on short workings.

Thanks!

This is nothing new as others than me have posted about the same subject in the past. In my case I remember NakedPluto bringing this up in the forums, but the very first time I read it was on joyofsatan.org a story from Maxine programming Her aura.

It has to do with power and skill. And permanent results are done in larger cycles. That's it in a nutshell. I can't imagine a person inept in magick getting good results in short period of time when the same person can hardly make things happen in longer period. But if there is skill and power it is the opposite.

The limits to the usage of magick are in the head of practioner. How we view the world is another layer to consider, and affects the process as well.

But I wonder. Gear88, when you said that it was a mistake to make a forum account and to post here, and then telling us that you'll be leaving why do you continue to ask multiple questions here? It's not like this is sensitive to any degree.

 

[luis]

We are not in the world of the Gods here. This is why I can't see any problem using magic to attract something but magic is more natural than you think. The act itself of wanting something and obsessing over it will start to attract it to you, depending on how much you do this and how powerful you are will determine the time it takes to attract what you want.

Short workings can be done but depending how powerful you are, how much energy, focus you put into the spell and if how easy or difficult is to attract what you want will determine how much time it will take for the spell to work, you may even need to go for 40 days or more if you are less powerful or other conditions makes it need more energy.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

In short, magic is about transformation of circumstances or patterns of life. Yes, you can find a girlfriend without magic, but with magic this process will be much easier.

As magic touches your soul, this reaches a depth not found in other areas of life. People do cognitive therapy for years to change what an SS can achieve in months of a working, and/or with more extensive results beyond just the mental realm.

The material realm, and your ability to interact with it, reflects in your own soul, including your mental state. People who lack confidence or self-value have a harder time generating wealth, for example. You can make such examples for any situation, based on all the chakras or planetary energies. For advanced material gain, you need an advanced soul.

My advice to you would be to simply try a working for something that you desire and see the results. This is what I did as a beginner and where I can pull experience from. It is as simply as identifying a problem, then applying an energetic solution. This will answer your questions as you directly experience these processes.

 

[HPS Lydia]

In the JoS, HPS Maxine talks about using the aura for a one-time thing, like getting a cup of coffee, or a cd. I tried this when I was new. I needed a pillow, as mine was causing neck problems. So I did a one-shot working, and some relatives were passing through my town, they had literally just bought new pillows, and were having an allergic reaction to them (down filled). So they gave them to me for free as I was helping them out by taking them off their hands asap. I got 2 free, high-quality pillows, from a one-shot working.

Use magick, experiment, take notes. Note the Moon phase/sign, other factors, how you were feeling, etc. This is how one becomes a mage/witch/sorcerer. By learning what you are capable of. And you will never know unless you practice and see for yourself.

To sum up, no you do not need to do 40 day workings. For some things yes, for some things even longer, but for other things, even 1-3 days is all that's needed.