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Ariton 666 said:Physical self-defense
My question is what do you think about physical self-defense?
Certainly, some of you have been in a situation where someone has begun to provoke you, in a club, school, street, or workplace, and in a style that was obnoxious.
Because I know that there is black magic, or siddhi that can kill instantly, even pyrokinesis which if you direct it to their body, you can kill it immediately or with a Dim Mak technique or just plain gray energy and you can kill them right away.
But these techniques can not be acquire in a day or two, and a planetary black magic lasts for 40 days and its effect but as beginner in Spiritualism, until then somehow have to defend oneself and somehow punish the asshole.
I also know that you have to be careful with physical violence because the law protects the provocateur.
My method is that if someone provokes me, I will speak to them very personally and I use words that are sure the person will attack me and then if I protect myself, it is already in the category of legitimate self-defense.
How do you react in such a situation?
I should give a precision. Knives are terrible self defence weapons because they don't incapacitate instead they create bleeding wounds and many stabs are necessary to take down a healthy motivated attacker, and at that point they will likely die of bleeding out (legal consequences), plus legal systems tend to see knives as weapons of criminals, unless you are getting home invaded then you might get away with using a kitchen knife. Crushing weapons (hands count as well) are much better for self defence, they can incapacitate without killing. This is why police forces use variants of crushing weapons in melee.Sinistra said:Knifes are terrible self defence weapons but they are very good at dissuading
Knives are just terrible in general. You know how easy it is to grab someone's arm and turn their hand around? In a knife fight, it doesn't even matter much who is holding it, everyone is going down. It's like a 100% guarantee of serius injury for both people. But having a small knife in your pocket can give some confidence, so when you are safely walking around with your aura and guardian demon protecting you you don't get worried because you think "I got a knife to use if anything goes wrong."Sinistra said:
Knives are awesome, in general. But the thread is about self defence not useful tools or good attacker weapons.Ol argedco luciftias said:Knives are just terrible in general. You know how easy it is to grab someone's arm and turn their hand around? In a knife fight, it doesn't even matter much who is holding it, everyone is going down. It's like a 100% guarantee of serius injury for both people. But having a small knife in your pocket can give some confidence, so when you are safely walking around with your aura and guardian demon protecting you you don't get worried because you think "I got a knife to use if anything goes wrong."Sinistra said:
Fuchs said:You can carry sand in your pocket (cheap, legal).
in a serious case, you can throw the sand in the eye of the attacker.
Sinistra said:Knives are awesome, in general. But the thread is about self defence not useful tools or good attacker weapons.
I call bullshit on the easy to disarm and the 100% guaranteed of serious injuries for both.
It only really works in movies, in fake "martial art" schools where people let the other do whatever they want, or against people who don't have the will to use it in the first place. Against someone determined and at least somewhat competent it's pretty much impossible. It's all based on assuming they hold a knife towards you in an immobile position their hand immobile and defenceless. They also don't use their other hand. Why would they ever do all of that.
Ariton 666 said:My method is that if someone provokes me, I will speak to them very personally and I use words that are sure the person will attack me and then if I protect myself
Ol argedco luciftias said:Fuchs said:You can carry sand in your pocket (cheap, legal).
in a serious case, you can throw the sand in the eye of the attacker.
Sha Sha Sha!!! :x
good advice brotherWay_Seeker666 said:Ariton 666 said:My method is that if someone provokes me, I will speak to them very personally and I use words that are sure the person will attack me and then if I protect myself
The only advice you need is to stop being a dumbass.
You can get get charged for provoking people into fighting.
You could try this wannabe badass routine with the wrong person, someone who who beats the shit out of you, stabs you, shoots you, comes back for you with a group of people, etc. and considering you're untrained and (no offense) so clueless about fighting, it won't take much to put you down.
You could kill someone by someone by accident, VERY easily, and end up in jail. There is a condition concerning the brain which I can't recall the name of right now, where a person will have no symptoms or problems, but a blow to the head like a punch can kill them. This has happened to two people where I live, because of lame jackasses who get drunk and have to prove what an excuse for a man they are. One of them hit a curb after being punched which can be serious for anyone, the other just got hit in the face and bumped his head on the ground.
Deal with your insecurity, or anger issue, or whatever is causing this foolishness, rather than looking for trouble that you will find and regret.
Anthemes always work for me i kill our enemies up close hoorah hail satan !!!!hail lilith!! Hail astaroth!!!!!!!Sinistra said:I should give a precision. Knives are terrible self defence weapons because they don't incapacitate instead they create bleeding wounds and many stabs are necessary to take down a healthy motivated attacker, and at that point they will likely die of bleeding out (legal consequences), plus legal systems tend to see knives as weapons of criminals, unless you are getting home invaded then you might get away with using a kitchen knife. Crushing weapons (hands count as well) are much better for self defence, they can incapacitate without killing. This is why police forces use variants of crushing weapons in melee.Sinistra said:Knifes are terrible self defence weapons but they are very good at dissuading
Godmode said:Dim-mak is extremely advanced and you probably wouldn't want it to get out that you know it anyways. In my opinion your best bet is avoid fights but also to learn how to kick really well. if you can kick really well, you can disable someone instantly from a distance they can't reach you.
Ariton 666 said:Physical self-defense
My question is what do you think about physical self-defense?
Certainly, some of you have been in a situation where someone has begun to provoke you, in a club, school, street, or workplace, and in a style that was obnoxious.
Because I know that there is black magic, or siddhi that can kill instantly, even pyrokinesis which if you direct it to their body, you can kill it immediately or with a Dim Mak technique or just plain gray energy and you can kill them right away.
But these techniques can not be acquire in a day or two, and a planetary black magic lasts for 40 days and its effect but as beginner in Spiritualism, until then somehow have to defend oneself and somehow punish the asshole.
I also know that you have to be careful with physical violence because the law protects the provocateur.
My method is that if someone provokes me, I will speak to them very personally and I use words that are sure the person will attack me and then if I protect myself, it is already in the category of legitimate self-defense.
How do you react in such a situation?
Ghost in the Machine said:Ariton 666 said:----
We do not promote anything illegal here and the gods will not protect us from the consequences of our own actions if we do decide to do something stupid and land in jail. It's not a smart idea to risk everything by being stupid for 5 seconds, so physical violence or any physical or verbal breaking of the law is extremely frowned upon in our members since chances are you will get caught and likely end up unable to do the RTR or even have access to internet to keep in touch with us.
And the methods of killing with magic that you're speaking of is incredibly advanced and I doubt any of our members right now can 'kill people instantly' with magic. Such things require a lot of power and any black magics against anyone takes time. I myself don't make the effort to actually kill with magic as it's a waste of energy and effort as well as time when I could be attacking the enemy instead. It's much quicker and easier for me to just bring about unfortunate events and very unlucky circumstances for people I really don't like by using their own negative energy against them.
You can, however, still defend yourself as applicable by the law. But many laws in regards to self-defense can be dumb, be borderline suicidal and make no real sense. I would say just to avoid hostile confrontation all together if you can, and it's not weak to do so, it's smart. Or if you have no choice, build upon your aura to make it brighter and more positive as well as powerful, clean it thoroughly every day. Your aura will subtly influence those near and around you and bring about situations to end in your favor, it will also protect you from misfortune and you can program it to deflect the negative energy of others and send it straight back to them which will draw bad things to occur for them.
As much as some of us would like to drop some people with a thought or punch someone out, we have higher priorities.
Sinistra said:I should give a precision. Knives are terrible self defence weapons because they don't incapacitate instead they create bleeding wounds and many stabs are necessary to take down a healthy motivated attacker, and at that point they will likely die of bleeding out (legal consequences), plus legal systems tend to see knives as weapons of criminals, unless you are getting home invaded then you might get away with using a kitchen knife. Crushing weapons (hands count as well) are much better for self defence, they can incapacitate without killing. This is why police forces use variants of crushing weapons in melee.Sinistra said:Knifes are terrible self defence weapons but they are very good at dissuading
Absolutely, retro. Less lethal means like clubs are adequate when dealing with the drunk and disorderly, ie people that are responsive to pain compliance and don't have the intent or motive to kill. But when it comes to people that intend to maim and kill, and are out of their minds on PCP or flipped out on abrahamism ala muzzies with machetes or whatever other reason, you have to respond to the threat on the level it's coming from, if not higher, which is to say that it becomes necessary to cause debilitating trauma that will force an automatic response in the offender's body to stop what it's doing and cover itself. Or if not that then just make it physically impossible for them to continue being violent, like breaking joints or severing nerves & tendons.retrograde said:Sinistra said:I should give a precision. Knives are terrible self defence weapons because they don't incapacitate instead they create bleeding wounds and many stabs are necessary to take down a healthy motivated attacker, and at that point they will likely die of bleeding out (legal consequences), plus legal systems tend to see knives as weapons of criminals, unless you are getting home invaded then you might get away with using a kitchen knife. Crushing weapons (hands count as well) are much better for self defence, they can incapacitate without killing. This is why police forces use variants of crushing weapons in melee.Sinistra said:Knifes are terrible self defence weapons but they are very good at dissuading
Well, I don't necessarily agree, but it's because we're speculating. Nobody's really wrong here.. however, unless someone is trying to kill you - if they start profusely bleeding they're probably going to change their mind, unless you have them in a position where they feel like they can't back out of the situation. "2 inches in the right place" will kill someone.. unfortunately. Blades cause horrifying wounds that only a crazed person is going to be able to fight on with. Also if you damage tendons you can render a hand useless.. also fingers and fingertips are pretty vulnerable and can come off. Knives are something that, in my experience, the state looks at very negatively. I'd say stabbing someone is seen by the state as a worse thing than raping them. Crushing weapons are easier to use I'd say.. however, I was in a situation where I actually took a couple dozen baton cracks from a police officer.. the real incapacitation was done several hours later when everything swelled up. I'd put my money on a knife over a baton in a life threatening situation. Especially if it's a duel between the two. You're probably not going to knock the knife out of the hand of someone who doesn't want to let go.. speaking from experience. It's easy to ignore the pain from baton strikes. I've also had one of my hands sliced by a machete and had 3 tendons severed.. that was impossible to ignore. The amount of blood coming out and the fact that my hand didn't work anymore..
hopefully none of this is ever going to be needed by anyone in their life, but I wanted to chime in because unfortunately I've been in combat situations that have steered my views in one direction rather than another. nothing is ever going to be the "end all, be all" but I wanted to engage you guys some more here. Be well.
Aquarius said:School should teach self defence to kids from day 1 instead of teaching useless crap that the kid will eventually forget.
I can't remember exactly but Adolf Hitler in the Mein Kampf wrote that kids[or teens] should solve their problems with a fight(I can't remember if he mentioned with gloves though). I believe that's good, if the kids are actually mature in the mind then after such a fight they should have more respect towards each other(depends on the situation of course)
The police are people who have a family too. Immagine having to risk your life everyday because some drugtard has a knife and wouldn't hesitate to kill you, wouldn't you want to take precautions? And if you really get to the point in which police have to beat you up then I'm sorry but that's your problem, what kind of shit do you have to pull off to get that kind of treatment? Yours is just a immature teenage reasoning couples with few bad experiences(dating).retrograde said:Aquarius said:School should teach self defence to kids from day 1 instead of teaching useless crap that the kid will eventually forget.
I can't remember exactly but Adolf Hitler in the Mein Kampf wrote that kids[or teens] should solve their problems with a fight(I can't remember if he mentioned with gloves though). I believe that's good, if the kids are actually mature in the mind then after such a fight they should have more respect towards each other(depends on the situation of course)
I have more to say. This is not against you but I have a negative view of the police so I want to state some of this:
Police use batons because they're tactical and effective. Nowadays most of them are retractable and they're literally just metal "pipes" they're beating people with. Nobody would tolerate the cops going around cutting people up. Most of the time police use physical force it isn't to stop someone that's trying to harm them, or that' trying to harm someone else, but instead it's to punish someone and/or coerce them into total submission. At this point if you can't be broken you're going to acquire further charges of resisting arrest (probably already have this by now), possibly menacing an officer, and really if they want to screw you, there are other charges too they could tack on about too. When an officer puts their hands on you you are supposed to totally submit to their "authority" and relinquish your control over your body and what's happening to it. Which is kind of sick, but maybe my perspective is biased. This reminds me of "spanking" or "beating" children. Maybe there is a time and place for everything, but I don't think anybody should program a human to submit to violence being enacted upon them.
They call them "pigs" for a reason. I find that most people can't handle power.. if anyone at all can. I guess in this case abuse of power would be defined as an assumed general consensus of having made a decision that wasn't among the best options. Weakness of character in particular is often demonstrated when a person is not being so graceful with power. At the same time, obviously we're all human and have emotions and a vast amount of experiences influencing our current behavior, which means that situations, life, feelings, thoughts, actions are all non static. It's a great excuse and every individual can decide on their own whether to empathize or not. The only thing I can think of to remedy this is to strive to be better. I'm sure police do a lot of great things every day but I don't think I've ever seen it. All I've seen is corruption, from a young age. I don't want to elaborate because this involves some personal family type stuff like people dating police officers. Police have never helped me and I doubt they ever will. Low key I think that the police protect the state first, and then maybe - maybe, the people second. Then the state protects the power of the ruling class. I don't think that everyone needs protection as badly as they think. Of course it's a good safety net though.
Aquarius said:The police are people who have a family too. Immagine having to risk your life everyday because some drugtard has a knife and wouldn't hesitate to kill you, wouldn't you want to take precautions? And if you really get to the point in which police have to beat you up then I'm sorry but that's your problem, what kind of shit do you have to pull off to get that kind of treatment? Yours is just a immature teenage reasoning couples with few bad experiences(dating).retrograde said:Aquarius said:School should teach self defence to kids from day 1 instead of teaching useless crap that the kid will eventually forget.
I can't remember exactly but Adolf Hitler in the Mein Kampf wrote that kids[or teens] should solve their problems with a fight(I can't remember if he mentioned with gloves though). I believe that's good, if the kids are actually mature in the mind then after such a fight they should have more respect towards each other(depends on the situation of course)
I have more to say. This is not against you but I have a negative view of the police so I want to state some of this:
Police use batons because they're tactical and effective. Nowadays most of them are retractable and they're literally just metal "pipes" they're beating people with. Nobody would tolerate the cops going around cutting people up. Most of the time police use physical force it isn't to stop someone that's trying to harm them, or that' trying to harm someone else, but instead it's to punish someone and/or coerce them into total submission. At this point if you can't be broken you're going to acquire further charges of resisting arrest (probably already have this by now), possibly menacing an officer, and really if they want to screw you, there are other charges too they could tack on about too. When an officer puts their hands on you you are supposed to totally submit to their "authority" and relinquish your control over your body and what's happening to it. Which is kind of sick, but maybe my perspective is biased. This reminds me of "spanking" or "beating" children. Maybe there is a time and place for everything, but I don't think anybody should program a human to submit to violence being enacted upon them.
They call them "pigs" for a reason. I find that most people can't handle power.. if anyone at all can. I guess in this case abuse of power would be defined as an assumed general consensus of having made a decision that wasn't among the best options. Weakness of character in particular is often demonstrated when a person is not being so graceful with power. At the same time, obviously we're all human and have emotions and a vast amount of experiences influencing our current behavior, which means that situations, life, feelings, thoughts, actions are all non static. It's a great excuse and every individual can decide on their own whether to empathize or not. The only thing I can think of to remedy this is to strive to be better. I'm sure police do a lot of great things every day but I don't think I've ever seen it. All I've seen is corruption, from a young age. I don't want to elaborate because this involves some personal family type stuff like people dating police officers. Police have never helped me and I doubt they ever will. Low key I think that the police protect the state first, and then maybe - maybe, the people second. Then the state protects the power of the ruling class. I don't think that everyone needs protection as badly as they think. Of course it's a good safety net though.
I'm in Italy, but it doesn't matter, there's policemen who join because they have real ideals and not to be corrupt, so your acab ideas have no sense.retrograde said:Aquarius said:The police are people who have a family too. Immagine having to risk your life everyday because some drugtard has a knife and wouldn't hesitate to kill you, wouldn't you want to take precautions? And if you really get to the point in which police have to beat you up then I'm sorry but that's your problem, what kind of shit do you have to pull off to get that kind of treatment? Yours is just a immature teenage reasoning couples with few bad experiences(dating).retrograde said:I have more to say. This is not against you but I have a negative view of the police so I want to state some of this:
Police use batons because they're tactical and effective. Nowadays most of them are retractable and they're literally just metal "pipes" they're beating people with. Nobody would tolerate the cops going around cutting people up. Most of the time police use physical force it isn't to stop someone that's trying to harm them, or that' trying to harm someone else, but instead it's to punish someone and/or coerce them into total submission. At this point if you can't be broken you're going to acquire further charges of resisting arrest (probably already have this by now), possibly menacing an officer, and really if they want to screw you, there are other charges too they could tack on about too. When an officer puts their hands on you you are supposed to totally submit to their "authority" and relinquish your control over your body and what's happening to it. Which is kind of sick, but maybe my perspective is biased. This reminds me of "spanking" or "beating" children. Maybe there is a time and place for everything, but I don't think anybody should program a human to submit to violence being enacted upon them.
They call them "pigs" for a reason. I find that most people can't handle power.. if anyone at all can. I guess in this case abuse of power would be defined as an assumed general consensus of having made a decision that wasn't among the best options. Weakness of character in particular is often demonstrated when a person is not being so graceful with power. At the same time, obviously we're all human and have emotions and a vast amount of experiences influencing our current behavior, which means that situations, life, feelings, thoughts, actions are all non static. It's a great excuse and every individual can decide on their own whether to empathize or not. The only thing I can think of to remedy this is to strive to be better. I'm sure police do a lot of great things every day but I don't think I've ever seen it. All I've seen is corruption, from a young age. I don't want to elaborate because this involves some personal family type stuff like people dating police officers. Police have never helped me and I doubt they ever will. Low key I think that the police protect the state first, and then maybe - maybe, the people second. Then the state protects the power of the ruling class. I don't think that everyone needs protection as badly as they think. Of course it's a good safety net though.
Ok so you're more on the side of empathizing with the police - got it.
You could've communicated more reasonably.. especially here, where we're all brothers. I'm not a teenager, and my ability to reason is not like that of a teenager's either, and the police one of the most dirty, corrupt organizations on the face of the earth. They always have been. People need to stop looking at them like they're superheroes. They're the strong-arm agents of the state. They are literally a legalized gang. Compliance with municipal law is overtly due to the threat of physical force being used against someone if they don't. Guys in costumes with make-believe authority will come take you away, maybe beat you up, lock you in a cage, take your kids from you, ransack your home, seize your property, and so on..
I don't think you have a lot of real world experience in dealing with the police. Also, where are you from? You write like English may not be your first language, maybe police work differently where you live..
You look like the kind of person who I'll want to be around when shit hits the fan. If you can,learn weapons training too if that's legal in your country.Ariton 666 said:I am responding now to this topic I wrote 1 year ago, but perfectly current to react to your shits (btw I laughed a lot) seeing what’s happening in the USA that monkeys and communists are fucking up everything and everyone.
But first of all, let me tell you some personal information about myself.
My height is 190 cm and my weight is 123 kg. I’m doing sports and strength training therefore I’m muscular. Long ago I did Kyokushin Karate, I’ve participated in contests too, and I’ve got nice ratings at heavyweight. I’m not doing Kyokushin already, but because I love martial arts, I’m doing Ninjutsu for a long time now.
I’m developing spiritually too, the aura of protection is working, ect… what helps, but base on that all alone is not enough.
Usually people are scared of me so the trouble is avoiding me, but it doesn’t hurt to be on the lookout.
A lots of fucking gypsies are living in my country and there are crisis situations, not to mention many of white people are join to the gypsies, because it’s cooler and easier to them. You have to hit the head of people sometimes here, to let them know where their place is. If you don’t, they land on you and simply kill you.
So, who answers like: ,,sand in the pocket”, ,,aura of protection” and ,,aura” ...never stepped out of the four walls in his/her entire life, telling me these hilarious ,,wisdoms”.
Life doesn’t work without confrontation. Nature is based on this, that’s how evolution makes sense you have to defend yourself better and better.
The Gods are confronting too, if they were not, they would not fight the enemy.
My advice is: get out your heads of sand, and do not put it in your pockets, because it’s not worth a shit! Instead, think about how you can develop your physical strength, learn martial arts, and where permitted by the law, keep a weapon and defend yourself when you need!!
This caos that reigns over you just will be worse, especially if you don’t do something physically.
It will be 2025 soon, when this world in this form will disappear completely, as everyone knows- Aazael told us last year.
SMASHING. That's a nice Strategy. Thanks for the Update. Btw I'd like to know about Miyamoto Mushashi as well. Where do you suggest should I start ?Shael said:The best things to learn for self-defense are simply to keep a state of mind where you are naturally always aware, and not lost in thought or distracted by random things. As well as how to, in your own preferred way, crush the will of an opponent to attack you, or to keep attacking you. You can do it by beating them up, if your situation allows doing this legally, or by intimidating them in some way, or simply through your position in the situation in general.
Developing a strong mind and aura does also work to intimidate some opponents without even needing physical contact. It shouldn't be depended on as your only way of defense however. In the end, the best way to break an opponent's will to attack you is to display absolute superiority over them. Learn whatever self defense art you feel inclined towards, refine and empower your body and mind, and practice crushing an attacker's will effectively. That's the pinnacle of proper self-defense in any situation.
Some excerpts from the Book of Five Rings:
Smashing
Here is what I call “smashing”. For example, it is important to have in mind to smash the adversary, determinedly considering him to be weak while viewing yourself as strong. In group strategy, if the adversaries are few in number or even if they are many, they are in a state of weakness when they are moving about indecisively in a disoriented condition. Smash them, starting with the head, adding to this an oppressive burst of energy that has the sensation of pushing them and smashing them. If you do not smash them enough, it is possible that they may regain their strength. So smash them as though you held them in your hands. You must understand this well.
In individual strategy, when you are fighting against an inferior opponent or when your opponent backs away as a result of a discord in his cadence, it is important not to give him a moment to breathe and, without meeting his glance, to continue straight on and smash him completely. It is of vital importance not to give him the least opportunity to recover, however slightly. You should examine this well.
Ripping out the Bottom
Here is what I call “ripping out the bottom”. When you fight against an opponent, it might happen that you get the impression of having won on account of the advantage of the way, but it could be that the mind of your adversary has not been broken and that his defeat has been superficial, while in its depth his mind has not been defeated. In this case, abruptly renew your mind and batter him until his mind has been broken and he feels completely defeated. It is essential to ascertain this. You rip out the bottom with your sword, with your body, and also with your mind. It is not appropriate to think of this in just one way. It is when he has collapsed from the very bottom that you no longer need to maintain your vigilance - otherwise, you must maintain it. But as long as in its depth he maintains his mind, it is difficult to bring him to collapse. In group and individual strategy, you should train well in order to learn how to rip out the bottom.
Renewing Yourself
(note - this is to explain the above part of "renew your mind")
Here is what I call “renewing yourself”. If at the time of combat, you feel yourself entangled with your opponent and the fight is stagnating, you throw off your preceding sensations and renew your thoughts as though you were doing everything for the first time. In this way you employ a new cadence to achieve victory.
As soon as you feel a grating indecisiveness in your contact with your opponent, immediately renew your mind so you can make use of a completely different opening in order to win. In group strategy as well, it is important to know how to renew yourself. This is something you will find immediately through the wisdom of strategy. You should examine it well.
Well, unfortunately barely anything about his history can be proven at all. Most of what we "know" today is likely fake and full of corruptions. The #1 Japanese historian on Musashi said this, himself.MACKENZIE SPARKS said:SMASHING. That's a nice Strategy. Thanks for the Update. Btw I'd like to know about Miyamoto Mushashi as well. Where do you suggest should I start ?
Thank you very much. To me he's like a Living Legend being a Renowned Swordsmith as well as Swordsman. Even though Swords might be considered outdated weapons nowadays, they are magnificent in their own way.Shael said:I hope you will enjoy your studies of this amazing man.MACKENZIE SPARKS said:SMASHING. That's a nice Strategy. Thanks for the Update. Btw I'd like to know about Miyamoto Mushashi as well. Where do you suggest should I start ?
"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan