GoldenRatio
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Hi guys. I've put my question at the top of this post. My story plus some ramblings about my fears are after that. Read that if you want more context on who I am and what I'm thinking, but it isn't necessary for answering the question.
Question-
Spirituality and esotericism is obscure. Unlike materialism, it has no definite rules, nor do we really know what the long-lasting impacts our decisions in this life have on our soul. Sure, we have some abstract idea from old spiritual texts, but those are uncertain. Given this, how do you guys overcome the fear of uncertainty of the esoteric and spiritual realms? And more to the point, how do you guys gain enough certainty to make a irreversible blood commitment to 'Satan' who is deemed evil by the most powerful spiritual institutions in the world?
Me-
When I discovered this website back in June, it was intriguing yet scary. I was raised secular, but did dabble in some religious prayer during a low time in my life. Even before coming here, I was always apprehensive about the Abrahamic religions. I'm a white Muslim ethnically from the Balkans and Christianity/Islam always felt like foreign religions imposed upon us. I could never shake that feeling and gravitated to paganism because it felt more like... home? It felt more true to my ethnic heritage. The problem is that truth is backed by power. Math has truth because it produces real results, real power. The fact is, the Abrahamic religions took over Europe and paganism worship is minimal which gives the Abrahamic religions a strong claim to truth. So I was left without a spiritual connection at all. I did dabble in praying to Allah for about six months, but it made me feel weak, powerless and dependent. I did get positive material results, but they were at the expense of my individuality and empowerment. I also started reading the Quran but stopped halfway because I didn't feel spiritually connected to it and it seemed silly to me. "This happened, Allah thought it was bad so he punished them. This happened, Allah thought it was good so he blessed them. Praise Allah.' Very boring and written to drive obedience into the reader.
The website name change is, in my opinion, a fantastic change. Linguistics is complicated and can be subversive. When I first came across this website, I was afraid, and still am to a certain extent, that it was Satan's, the Lord of Darkness, attempt to corrupt souls through the appearance of goodness, like a beautiful poisoned apple. This fear of mine was supported by the insistence of the use of the name 'Satan' as it plays directly into the Jewish spiritual paradigm. And if not properly adjusted for, can cause confusion between logic and emotion. For example, in America, the word 'racism' has negative connotations. There is a segment of the population that is attempting to change the definition of the word while retaining its negative connotations. In that way, I was afraid that the same thing was happening here where, by playing into the Jewish paradigm and embracing the name 'Satan', the evil connotations of 'Satan' were being retained subconsciously during worship. And if words have power as many esoteric sources suggest, then using the name 'Satan' is potentially spiritually equivalent to calling upon evil. Also, black people call each other 'nigga' as a way to claim the word 'nigger', but all it does is give the word more power and it still retains it's negative potency. My understanding of all this is limited, but these are my fears and thoughts about it. I'm much more willing to pray to Lord Zeus (Zefs) then I am to Satan.
Question-
Spirituality and esotericism is obscure. Unlike materialism, it has no definite rules, nor do we really know what the long-lasting impacts our decisions in this life have on our soul. Sure, we have some abstract idea from old spiritual texts, but those are uncertain. Given this, how do you guys overcome the fear of uncertainty of the esoteric and spiritual realms? And more to the point, how do you guys gain enough certainty to make a irreversible blood commitment to 'Satan' who is deemed evil by the most powerful spiritual institutions in the world?
Me-
When I discovered this website back in June, it was intriguing yet scary. I was raised secular, but did dabble in some religious prayer during a low time in my life. Even before coming here, I was always apprehensive about the Abrahamic religions. I'm a white Muslim ethnically from the Balkans and Christianity/Islam always felt like foreign religions imposed upon us. I could never shake that feeling and gravitated to paganism because it felt more like... home? It felt more true to my ethnic heritage. The problem is that truth is backed by power. Math has truth because it produces real results, real power. The fact is, the Abrahamic religions took over Europe and paganism worship is minimal which gives the Abrahamic religions a strong claim to truth. So I was left without a spiritual connection at all. I did dabble in praying to Allah for about six months, but it made me feel weak, powerless and dependent. I did get positive material results, but they were at the expense of my individuality and empowerment. I also started reading the Quran but stopped halfway because I didn't feel spiritually connected to it and it seemed silly to me. "This happened, Allah thought it was bad so he punished them. This happened, Allah thought it was good so he blessed them. Praise Allah.' Very boring and written to drive obedience into the reader.
The website name change is, in my opinion, a fantastic change. Linguistics is complicated and can be subversive. When I first came across this website, I was afraid, and still am to a certain extent, that it was Satan's, the Lord of Darkness, attempt to corrupt souls through the appearance of goodness, like a beautiful poisoned apple. This fear of mine was supported by the insistence of the use of the name 'Satan' as it plays directly into the Jewish spiritual paradigm. And if not properly adjusted for, can cause confusion between logic and emotion. For example, in America, the word 'racism' has negative connotations. There is a segment of the population that is attempting to change the definition of the word while retaining its negative connotations. In that way, I was afraid that the same thing was happening here where, by playing into the Jewish paradigm and embracing the name 'Satan', the evil connotations of 'Satan' were being retained subconsciously during worship. And if words have power as many esoteric sources suggest, then using the name 'Satan' is potentially spiritually equivalent to calling upon evil. Also, black people call each other 'nigga' as a way to claim the word 'nigger', but all it does is give the word more power and it still retains it's negative potency. My understanding of all this is limited, but these are my fears and thoughts about it. I'm much more willing to pray to Lord Zeus (Zefs) then I am to Satan.