Need more spiritual things

Sims Motal · Jun 9, 2015

Hey, Sisters and Brothers in Satan. I fully understand the hatred of jews, xtians, muslims, etc. And I
know Father hates them as well. However, I see far, far too much hate and bashing going on in comparison
to learning and growing spiritually in Satanism here. I would like to see much less talk of hate and worrying
about whether one has a drop of jew blood or not, and a lot more assistance and instruction on how to live
our lives and build ourselves up spiritually for Father Satan.

I know that the Joy of Satan website is the best, by far, website out there for those that want to follow
our true God, Satan. And there is much to learn there. I highly respect the clergy, etc. But let us please
focus more on learning more about Father Satan and building ourselves as Spiritual Satanists, and
focus less on whether someone is a jew or not. Gads! Honestly, I have come so close more than once
to just walk away from the groups here because of it. I want to learn and grow, not constantly see
all the hate. And I am sure it has turned away many a person who would otherwise come to Father
willingly. Sure, be honest as to your feelings, but lets not overdo. Please. And from what I see,
it has grown much worse. There will be rituals from the clergy to deal with this. You don't have
to like jews etc., just focus more on spiritual growth, please, than on all the negativity. I know it can't
be good for ones soul or ability to grown.
Hail Father Satan!

call_me_something_else · Jun 9, 2015

Excuse me but seeing through the lies is a vital part of spiritual growth.

They'd kill us all, given the chance and you're worried about being offensive with WORDS?

the_fire_starter666 · Jun 9, 2015

@Sims Mortal: You've got a twisted and distorted idea about what Spirituality is. Spirituality isn't a loveydovey thing which contains no "hate" as new agers claim, but embraces all emotions. Especially in this time we live in, spiritual warfare is extremely important. i.e. Fighting Satan's and our enemies. Spirituality both includes hate as well. There's no such thing as "negativity" in Satanism because we don't consider hate as a negative thing Are you sure you have read the JoS site fully? Read HP Maxine's sermon on Satanic Love where it mentions hate is an equally important thing to love.
Hell, Satanists are not xians or new ager hippies. We're True Warriors!

Vincent Torres · Jun 9, 2015

I agree

On Monday, June 8, 2015 5:47 PM, "Sims Motal simsmotal@... [JoyofSatan666]" <[email protected] wrote:

Hey, Sisters and Brothers in Satan. I fully understand the hatred of jews, xtians, muslims, etc. And I
know Father hates them as well. However, I see far, far too much hate and bashing going on in comparison
to learning and growing spiritually in Satanism here. I would like to see much less talk of hate and worrying
about whether one has a drop of jew blood or not, and a lot more assistance and instruction on how to live
our lives and build ourselves up spiritually for Father Satan.

I know that the Joy of Satan website is the best, by far, website out there for those that want to follow
our true God, Satan. And there is much to learn there. I highly respect the clergy, etc. But let us please
focus more on learning more about Father Satan and building ourselves as Spiritual Satanists, and
focus less on whether someone is a jew or not. Gads! Honestly, I have come so close more than once
to just walk away from the groups here because of it. I want to learn and grow, not constantly see
all the hate. And I am sure it has turned away many a person who would otherwise come to Father
willingly. Sure, be honest as to your feelings, but lets not overdo. Please. And from what I see,
it has grown much worse. There will be rituals from the clergy to deal with this. You don't have
to like jews etc., just focus more on spiritual growth, please, than on all the negativity. I know it can't
be good for ones soul or ability to grown.
Hail Father Satan!

zolaluckystar1 · Jun 9, 2015

I agree with that sentiment. I am a newbie and exploring and it was a turn off to see all the hate and bashing. I'm more interested to learn and grow.

joelnewton181 · Jun 9, 2015

@Sims
Well with the inquisition and all that they have done to gentiles, that is not something we should allow. Even to this day, they are severely working for communism.(DESTRUCTION OF GENTILES ).We don't turn the other cheek on kikes they are REPTILIANS. They have already outstayed their intrusion on planet earth for far too long, for us to, "Reduce our worries". Let me remind you that freemasonry(illuminati) satanic society has already been infiltrated by kikes and now works towards communism. All satanic societies have been either destroyed or infiltrated by the jews. Knowing these as facts and what history has long shown us about this REPTILIAN RACE, why should we for one second not take ALL necessary mesures to DESTROY THEM & MAKE INFILTRATION IMPOSSIBLE. They are here to destroy what Satan wants for us, freedom, truth, knowledge and the advancement of our species(gentiles)! It is our duty to preserve our gentile identity, the purity of our blood. It's sad that some gentiles have been decieved to mate with kikes, not knowing the consequences, only to completely destroy godhead in offsprings. Even the slightest amount of jewish dna, destroys godhood potential, the dna itself is different than ours (gentiles). Gentiles that have mixed jewish dna unfortunately are a loss to what could've been... Of course learning is excellent and very encouraged here, but allowing the SLIGHTEST patience with these parasites & allowing rest will only work to our detriment. I see that our goal here as Satanists is to work towards establishing Satan's kingdom here on earth(DESTROYING THE JEWS WITHOUT COMPROMISE) in conjunction to personal and spiritual advancement (learning&experience). They all matter, none is to be ignored or reduced in attention and focus, but all work harmoniously in our favor, in favor of our future, and in our Creator God Satan's favor the bringer of true freedom. WE NEED HIM to destroy, those that seek to destroy us, and the dreams of tomorrow, THE JEWS(REPTILIAN RACE), working as a team!!!! Those that have turned away and did not face the "hard" truths provided by the JoS Ministries, that were "hard to grasp", are cowards & make good sheep and slaves. SATANISM IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE FOR THE STRONG, AND BUILDERS OF TOMORROW!!!!

HAIL SATAN!!!!

magnum.arcanum · Jun 9, 2015

You don't understand the jews, xtians, muslims, etc. They hate us because they hate themselves. Stop hating yourself, and believing that bullshit about loving everyone.

All those idiots have a delusional sense of what love is and they know we know it. All of them want desperately to believe that they love people. Any murderous, coward, piece of shit believes they love everybody.

Truth is they don't know a thing about what love is. We do. That's why they hate us and they hate themselves.

Stop trying to transfer that stupid shit over to us. We are so far ahead of that nonsense its ridiculous.

Read the exposing xanity section and actually study it this time. It takes awhile to get past the programming, that's why its necessary to have that filth on here at all.

the_fire_starter666 · Jun 9, 2015

@zolaluckystar: You "agree" with that "sentiment" exactly because you're newbie and you don't have a clear idea what Spiritual Satanism is about, much like the original poster. You need to read the replies, mine and others'. As I said, Spiritual Satanism is a warrior path, not a lovey dovey hippie slave new age thing. We don't consider hate bad or negative in anyway. Spiritual Warfare against Satan's enemies is a very, very important thing here. I suggest if you still feel that way maybe join some new age group and not here. And leave us to get on with important things like Spiritual Warfare.

call_me_something_else · Jun 9, 2015

Well, Vincent Torres, give it time and come to understand Truth.

call_me_something_else · Jun 9, 2015

Come to think of it, after all that's been done to me, personally, by those retarded psychopaths, I HOPE something I've said makes them RIP THEIR FUCKING HAIR OUT AND KNOW MY PAIN!

Fuck their feelings and don't ever try telling me how to speak again.

I want revenge on those wall-humping, dick-skinning monsters.

Hail Father Satan FOREVER!

joelnewton181 · Jun 11, 2015

Just to add to what I've already said... WE WON'T STOP COMPLAINING OR EXPOSING ANYTHING TO DO THIS RACE THAT SEEKS TO DESTROY ANY FREEDOM AND LIFE HERE ON EARTH. For any newbie that's confused READ ABOUT COMMUNISM & read the protocols of the learned elders of zion. With these aspects in mind, do you think we'll just shut up. FUCK NO! They truly need to be annihilated & destroyed from any & all levels of existence. To newbies that advocate doing less are better off slaves. @Sims There may be a lack of understanding of who these jews are and what they have done, on your part. We're all learning here continuously, from the new to experienced... But did you ever care to think, that all this spiritual advancement, Satan's kingdom can't happen if there's still even 1 jew existing! So to all my brothers and sisters don't stop, and for newbies start studying and reading to understand why we can't stop, reading from the e-groups is limited. EXPOSINGCHRISTIANITY.COM , http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Main.html , https://www.youtube.com/user/iknowthetr ... pp=desktop ...

AND READ WHAT SATAN OUR TRUE CREATOR GOD HAS TO SAY ABOUT ABOUT SPIRITUAL AND OVERALL WARFARE HERE ON EARTH AGAINST OUR ENEMIES THE JEWS!!!!

http://hailtosatansvictory666.angelfire ... Satan.html

HAIL SATAN!!!!

dalightskin · Jun 11, 2015

Please understand that the reason we get into the jew stuff is because we see ourselves obligated to be the protectors of humanity, as long as the jews have their way with our planet it will always be incomplete.

You need to realize that we in this group are not men here to make peace, we are men here to make war for the sake of peace. If you are all about "peace and love" and don't believe in destroying evil for the sake of good then you are probably not suitable for this group. We are WARRIORS of Satan, we fight for the sake of good, if you don't understand then you are welcome to leave the JoS, but I wouldn't recommend it, especially after its gotten you started on your path to enlightenment.

Sims Motal · Jul 3, 2015

I understand all that quite clearly. And I am a dedicated Satanist! I am just saying that sometimes it
is so out there that it can and does turn some, otherwise, possible followers of Satan away! I fully
understand why Father hates the jews, the lies, etc. I love Father Satan with all my heart. But you
have no right to tell me that I don't belong here! Father has been good to me. He has spoken to
me more than once. I know HE loves me! It is not what is said here, it is how it is said. Sometimes
the words make me flinch, knowing that we might be losing folks that would otherwise turn to
Father. I want those who might otherwise come to Father to not be turned away. It takes time for
people who have been Xtians, or whatever all their lives to understand the obvious hate.
I want those lost people to come to Father! Not be turned away! I am saying that some things
need to be approached a little differently. You can't throw
college stuff at folks still in kindergarten!

Hail Satan!

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On Tue, 6/9/15, dalightskin@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2015, 12:39 PM

Please understand that the reason we get into the
jew stuff is because we see ourselves obligated to be the
protectors of humanity, as long as the jews have their way
with our planet it will always be incomplete.

You need to realize that we in this group are not men here
to make peace, we are men here to make war for the sake of
peace. If you are all about "peace and love" and
don't believe in destroying evil for the sake of good
then you are probably not suitable for this group. We are
WARRIORS of Satan, we fight for the sake of good, if you
don't understand then you are welcome to leave the JoS,
but I wouldn't recommend it, especially after its gotten
you started on your path to enlightenment.

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the_fire_starter666 · Jul 3, 2015

@Sims Mortal: Those who turn away aren't meant to be true SS's anyway. It's been explained many times before. Those who are two jewwashed to be loveydovey and be turned away from "hate" aren't fit to be SS's. SS isn't supposed to be for everyone. Really. This acts as a mechanism of weeding out the dross. Those weak people and xian minded ones are dross who flinch if there is "hate" are not needed here.

the_fire_starter666 · Jul 3, 2015

@Sims Mortal: P.S. If every HP thought like you then they wouldn't use the name Satan, not talk anything about NS, e.t.c. because there are xian minded people. That's silly and stupid to care for every weak minded person obviously. These aren't needed in SS. AS HP Maxine said (quoting Lavey), we don't care about wearing the "good guy" badge just to please the masses, we are honest about who we are.

the_fire_starter666 · Jul 3, 2015

If we were just talking about meditations and love and B.S. like that obviously people would ask what's the difference between us and the new agers. Because there would be no difference. Satanism isn't a new age thing about love, but includes spiritual warfare, exposing the jews and other things like that as important things here. It's not about merely meditating, it's also about fighting. If you really think SS is about merely sitting selfishly and meditating then you have the wrong idea about SS. That's why I said that you wouldn't be a true SS. EVEN if you think the basic thing is about meditating and doing nothing to fight. Fighting and exposing the enemies do belong to the basic things. Don't forget the quote from JoS:
[Concerning those who only care about themselves and see Satanism as a religion only for the self and disregard Satan]
<[/IMG]"They are of no importance to me."[/I] -Satan

So I'm gonna repeat, if there are people who are turned by the jew thing and just want to meditate and focus on "love" then they'd better become new agers, SS isn't for them.

arizmendisatan · Jul 4, 2015

Has father satan said that time is not yet to come, create and destroy we have to fight thee enemy because were still along way from freedom.
We cant just focus on ourselves there is a spiritual war goin on,did you read high priestess maxiness sermon on hate without hate we cant advance spirtual satanism.
Thats what the jews dont want for us too fight back, father satan said theirs no human being that is important to him other than a warrior thats what he needs warriors. So stop with all that love this love that thats all xian crap.

zolaluckystar1 · Jul 4, 2015

I wrote that day one. Since then i have been educating myself. I get the importance of hate, thanks. I am NOT a hippy dippie new ager. I'm with and for Satan, I intend to fight for him and I'm not going anywhere.

lagerthabjorn · Jul 4, 2015

If it were not for so much hate and anger of whats going on in our country,(and around the world) seeing and hearing of the thousands of brutal murders of families going down daily, for power and most times just for a cellphone, I believe I would not be here!!! Before I felt hopeless and powerless. There is NO time left to be kind or powerless.., Satan is looking for serious warriors!!

centralforce6661 · Jul 4, 2015

The weak ones who falter because of a few harsh words likely balk due to their own personal inadequacies. Truly what we see in others that we despise can be (not always but usually) a reflection of that which we subconsciously dislike about ourselves. When one is honest with oneself especially about the things by which we are offended (especially when it has nothing to do with us personally) we can break free from the need for external validation by each and every person whom we contact.

However, I do feel that you bring up a valid point. It has always been a sticking point that the reason why Satanic people's have failed in the past is due to lack of Unity, and this may be what you are getting at??? Correct me if I am wrong. Remember that even those who regularly give advice in these groups are also on their own paths of personal development, and sometimes the only way to learn is to get out and do something until someone points out the error, be they human or God. You as an individual have a responsibility to yourself to rise above the mundane words of others and focus on your own development through which you might help to bring about the change which you desire. This requires strong spiritual power which can be attained through regular and consistent power meditation over a long period of time.

I'm sure that you know this but I wanted to provide some encouragement as sometimes that can be lacking. The trick is finding that encouragement internally, and when that falters you can turn to the Gods, they have encouraged me greatly along my path.

Yog Sothoth · Jul 4, 2015

<td val[/IMG]I am really sorry Sim about that post I made. (Hopefully a medeator can remove it or not approve it) I was overly harsh in assuming you were an infiltrator.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

At Jul 3, 2015, 2:56:30 AM, Yog Sothoth wrote:Wow Sam I never suspected you were an infiltrator. This is really stupid you could have done more damage by remaing hidden. And you even got a couple new people to jump on the 'no hate' bandwagon. You even used the oldest tactic in the book "I'm a dedicated Satanist! Satan talks to me! You have no right to call me out because of that! So you should just take my word for it!" Sorry but we are NOT going to stop exposing, fighting, hateing and DISTROYING the enemies of Satan. What you failed to understand is that we Gentiles naturally hate and want to stop your kind. No matter what nuu age propaganda or selfish (more stuff about growing! less about fighting the enemy!) We Gentiles are NOT selfish like your kind, sure some don't understand the gravity of the situation we're in but they will learn in time (thanks to our efforts) You better find a deep fucking cave to hide because we're coming. You can't hide from spiritual justice you fucking trator. Side note: it's funny how this came hot off the heels of the recent sermon by HP Maxine about hate and HP Cobras new destruction ritual, I mean how obvious can you get!
To all the people who said they are more intrested in "growing" then fighting for Satan. This is explaned clearly on the main site. Satan said regarding those who only care about themselves and don't do anything for the world "they are of no use to me"

At Jul 2, 2015, 5:33:01 PM, Sims Motal simsmotal@... [JoyofSatan666] wrote: I understand all that quite clearly. And I am a dedicated Satanist! I am just saying that sometimes it
is so out there that it can and does turn some, otherwise, possible followers of Satan away! I fully
understand why Father hates the jews, the lies, etc. I love Father Satan with all my heart. But you
have no right to tell me that I don't belong here! Father has been good to me. He has spoken to
me more than once. I know HE loves me! It is not what is said here, it is how it is said. Sometimes
the words make me flinch, knowing that we might be losing folks that would otherwise turn to
Father. I want those who might otherwise come to Father to not be turned away. It takes time for
people who have been Xtians, or whatever all their lives to understand the obvious hate.
I want those lost people to come to Father! Not be turned away! I am saying that some things
need to be approached a little differently. You can't throw
college stuff at folks still in kindergarten!

Hail Satan!

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On Tue, 6/9/15, dalightskin@... [JoyofSatan666] wrote:

Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2015, 12:39 PM

Please understand that the reason we get into the
jew stuff is because we see ourselves obligated to be the
protectors of humanity, as long as the jews have their way
with our planet it will always be incomplete.

You need to realize that we in this group are not men here
to make peace, we are men here to make war for the sake of
peace. If you are all about "peace and love" and
don't believe in destroying evil for the sake of good
then you are probably not suitable for this group. We are
WARRIORS of Satan, we fight for the sake of good, if you
don't understand then you are welcome to leave the JoS,
but I wouldn't recommend it, especially after its gotten
you started on your path to enlightenment.

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Sims Motal · Jul 4, 2015

Not who I am!
Hail Satan!
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On Thu, 7/2/15, j.l3mm0n@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015, 9:35 PM

If we were just talking about meditations and love
and B.S. like that obviously people would ask what's the
difference between us and the new agers. Because there would
be no difference. Satanism isn't a new age thing about
love, but includes spiritual warfare, exposing the jews and
other things like that as important things here. It's
not about merely meditating, it's also about fighting.

If you really think SS is about merely sitting selfishly and
meditating then you have the wrong idea about SS. That's
why I said that you wouldn't be a true SS. EVEN if you
think the basic thing is about meditating and doing nothing
to fight. Fighting and exposing the enemies do belong to the
basic things. Don't forget the quote from
JoS:
[Concerning those who only care about themselves and
see Satanism as a religion only for the self and disregard
Satan]
"They are of no importance to me." -Satan

So I'm gonna repeat, if there
are people who are turned by the jew thing and just want to
meditate and focus on "love" then they'd
better become new agers, SS isn't for them.

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Yog Sothoth · Jul 4, 2015

<td val[/IMG]Wow Sam I never suspected you were an infiltrator. This is really stupid you could have done more damage by remaing hidden. And you even got a couple new people to jump on the 'no hate' bandwagon. You even used the oldest tactic in the book "I'm a dedicated Satanist! Satan talks to me! You have no right to call me out because of that! So you should just take my word for it!" Sorry but we are NOT going to stop exposing, fighting, hateing and DISTROYING the enemies of Satan. What you failed to understand is that we Gentiles naturally hate and want to stop your kind. No matter what nuu age propaganda or selfish (more stuff about growing! less about fighting the enemy!) We Gentiles are NOT selfish like your kind, sure some don't understand the gravity of the situation we're in but they will learn in time (thanks to our efforts) You better find a deep fucking cave to hide because we're coming. You can't hide from spiritual justice you fucking trator. Side note: it's funny how this came hot off the heels of the recent sermon by HP Maxine about hate and HP Cobras new destruction ritual, I mean how obvious can you get!
To all the people who said they are more intrested in "growing" then fighting for Satan. This is explaned clearly on the main site. Satan said regarding those who only care about themselves and don't do anything for the world "they are of no importance to me"

At Jul 2, 2015, 5:33:01 PM, Sims Motal simsmotal@... [JoyofSatan666] wrote: I understand all that quite clearly. And I am a dedicated Satanist! I am just saying that sometimes it
is so out there that it can and does turn some, otherwise, possible followers of Satan away! I fully
understand why Father hates the jews, the lies, etc. I love Father Satan with all my heart. But you
have no right to tell me that I don't belong here! Father has been good to me. He has spoken to
me more than once. I know HE loves me! It is not what is said here, it is how it is said. Sometimes
the words make me flinch, knowing that we might be losing folks that would otherwise turn to
Father. I want those who might otherwise come to Father to not be turned away. It takes time for
people who have been Xtians, or whatever all their lives to understand the obvious hate.
I want those lost people to come to Father! Not be turned away! I am saying that some things
need to be approached a little differently. You can't throw
college stuff at folks still in kindergarten!

Hail Satan!

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 6/9/15, dalightskin@... [JoyofSatan666] wrote:

Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2015, 12:39 PM

Please understand that the reason we get into the
jew stuff is because we see ourselves obligated to be the
protectors of humanity, as long as the jews have their way
with our planet it will always be incomplete.

You need to realize that we in this group are not men here
to make peace, we are men here to make war for the sake of
peace. If you are all about "peace and love" and
don't believe in destroying evil for the sake of good
then you are probably not suitable for this group. We are
WARRIORS of Satan, we fight for the sake of good, if you
don't understand then you are welcome to leave the JoS,
but I wouldn't recommend it, especially after its gotten
you started on your path to enlightenment.

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Sims Motal · Jul 4, 2015

A lot of people come here uneducated... You NEED to understand that! You think I don't understand..
You are wrong! I know of two people who were ready to dedicate, but when they saw the way
things are said here, they backed off! Yet, had they had time to learn, they would have dedicated!
And it is NOT about just meditating. I know that. So, be clear on this. I am not some wimp.
Hail Satan!
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On Thu, 7/2/15, j.l3mm0n@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015, 9:35 PM

If we were just talking about meditations and love
and B.S. like that obviously people would ask what's the
difference between us and the new agers. Because there would
be no difference. Satanism isn't a new age thing about
love, but includes spiritual warfare, exposing the jews and
other things like that as important things here. It's
not about merely meditating, it's also about fighting.
If you really think SS is about merely sitting selfishly and
meditating then you have the wrong idea about SS. That's
why I said that you wouldn't be a true SS. EVEN if you
think the basic thing is about meditating and doing nothing
to fight. Fighting and exposing the enemies do belong to the
basic things. Don't forget the quote from
JoS:
[Concerning those who only care about themselves and
see Satanism as a religion only for the self and disregard
Satan]
"They are of no importance to me." -Satan

So I'm gonna repeat, if there
are people who are turned by the jew thing and just want to
meditate and focus on "love" then they'd
better become new agers, SS isn't for them.

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Sims Motal · Jul 4, 2015

That was a poor example on my part. I admit that. But a person desiring to come to Father
for the first time, or even maybe a second time, who does not truly know what is going on,
cannot fully understand what they see here. That is what I am saying.

And one of these weak-minded people you are referring to, happens to be someone dear
to me with an IQ well above average. He is against Xtianity, jewish lies, etc. Totally.
But he hasn't been around the JoS website long enough to know what it really entails.
Though he hates the lies -- he is turned off by so much hate talk. Given time, he might
feel differently. But he hasn't studied enough. I don't want to see fine people like
him turning away because people can't talk a little differently. Yet, in a round about way,
he is working for Father. But he refuses to join the JoS group.
I hope I made that clear enough. Father doesn't want us fighting or arguing amongst ourselves.
I am still hoping, that in time, he will come back.
Hail Satan!
--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 7/2/15, j.l3mm0n@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015, 9:19 PM

Not to mention they aren't even "college
stuff", they are basic things for every SS to know,
they ARE kindergarten stuff. SS IS about hate, it IS about
hating our enemies. That's for even newbies to know. If
someone doesn't like "hate" then it's
better for him to become a Wiccan. He will do us more harm
than good if he becomes a SS because he will become wishy
washy. SS isn't for wishy washy people.

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the_fire_starter666 · Jul 4, 2015

P.S. Generally the entire thing that they're leaving because of people here is silly and stupid and those people just use it as an excuse and they're not really interested, or are interested for wrong reasons. It sounds as if they are more interested in socializing than becoming SS's and engaging in spiritual warfare. SS isn't based on individual people, but on personal experience with Satan.
Myself, if I was a newbie and really interested in SS I would come here to gain knowledge. I would care less for how people behave, even if they are rude because SS is based on 1on1 relationship with Satan and knowledge. If I really wanted to be a SS even if everyone was rude I would try to find knowledge on my own. If there was something I misunderstood or that turned me off, like National Socialism, I would ask for clarifications instead of going away. I would even ask Satan about it, since there are no mediators in SS. I would ask for the reasons the jews are hated e.t.c. Because that's what it really interests me and I want to be a SS no matter what. And because I'm open minded enough to learn about something before rejecting it (obviously Satanism is slandered everywhere so it's a logical thing to assume that the same happened to National Socialism for somebody who comes here and doesn't understand NS). See, those people who use those excuses aren't serious about SS, nor open minded enough. They may or may not realize their mistake and come back later, who knows. But as SS's we shouldn't be begging for people to come nor should we be worried if they don't like it. THEIR problem, we just tell the truth.

the_fire_starter666 · Jul 4, 2015

This may help you (and others who have people who "left" because (insert any excuse here)), it's a post by a person who left for a silly reason:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Joy ... ges/122358
As well as HP Maxine's reply to it.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Joy ... ges/122366

It's important because it clarifies the whole thing.

the_fire_starter666 · Jul 4, 2015

Also @Sims Mortal, if you want to help those people you need to tell them that the way they are thinking is wrong and illogical, as well as a true SS is the one who puts the effort in the whole thing, in learning, meditating e.t.c. It's not us who must change to coddle them, but they who must change their thinking and be more open minded if they want to become SS's. They must be willing to make the effort to ask questions about things they don't understand such as the hate. Also tell them that even if some things may sound off putting, they are done for logical reasons and they would find out if they asked us about them in the groups. That's actually what we're for. They don't understand why "all this hate" exists? Sure, they can ask about it in the groups. That's how people who are seriously interested in SS act.
From the description of those people you gave me, they are obviously not willing to put in the effort in SS. So they aren't serious. This is a guideline to help you see who is serious about SS or not. Ask yourself: if he willing to put effort of his own or does he expect other people to do everything for him? If it's the second, that person isn't serious.

call_me_something_else · Jul 4, 2015

Right after I dedicated and was still suffering under a lot of the xiam programming, I remember being a bit shocked by the whole Nazi thing.

Then, I asked a few questions, got some great answers and, during meditation, was simply reminded of things I already knew.

So, I think j.l3mmon is right, there.

Also, I think Sims' request makes sense, too and, is possibly directed towards some of my behavior here.

And, if such is the case, I'll work on it. I'll try to, anyway, with the help of the Gods. There's a lot of pain involved.

Hail Father Satan, forever!

the_fire_starter666 · Jul 4, 2015

@call_me_something_else: it would only make sense if he asked people to not be rude to newbies and no infighting. This is pretty logical and I agree with it. However telling us to not express our hatred against the enemy lies simply because some not so open minded people turn away from SS is totally absurd. By this logic we wouldn't even use the name Satan as it turns some people away. I know people who are scared of that name. Also we wouldn't have the info on black magick spells because people think it's evil and turn away. There are newbies who get pretty much turned off by everything. Those who are here to stay will stay, no matter who gets turned away or not. If we wanted to please everyone we would be a new age or an unitarian universalist group instead of a SS one. Of course we know we can't please everybody and we can have everybody stay here.

call_me_something_else · Jul 5, 2015

@the fire starter, I believe what he said was, he also understood the hatred of the jews and, it wasn't what was said but how it was said.

I don't think he's trying to discourage us from sharing Truth. He's asking us for a better argument.

I feel as if it's a friendly reminder to me.

I also agree with him. I can do it better. I'm smarter than this, to let my anger lead me to doing something stupid.

I'll still pick on the greasy, fat, ugly , lazy kike-in-general from time to time. But I can make a better argument.

I think that's what he's asking of us.

Am I right, Sims Motal?

call_me_something_else · Jul 5, 2015

Let me add, were anyone to try telling me to not hate the jews, I'd tell them to go piss up a rope.

But, some of my comments do just seem immature.

fibrilink · Jul 5, 2015

I get your point that not everyone understands, but it isn't right to change the truth in order to make spiritual Satanism more palatable to wishy washy xians etc that sympathize with the kikes because it's politically correct. The kikes are not Satan's people. Gentiles are. A kike cannot be "converted" or turn to Satan. They hate gentiles on a DNA level, even if they consciously want to change. If they say they want to change, don't even bother trusting them--they'll say anything they can to get you to support them and allow them to enslave gentiles. Muslims and Christians can convert, they are gentiles. Jews are a parasitic race that cannot change and are not Satan's people.
Hail Satan
Hail Eligos

Sims Motal · Jul 5, 2015

The main one I spoke of is very serious about Father. In fact, he is writing a book -- and he's been traditionally published,
not self-published -- to wake people of to the jews 'lies. So, he's still there for Father! He would have made a great
contribution to the JoS groups. Who knows, maybe he will change his mind, but all he saw was hate. He didn't see
examples of Father Satan's love. And I DO understand the hate.
Hail Satan
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On Sat, 7/4/15, j.l3mm0n@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Saturday, July 4, 2015, 7:21 AM

Also @Sims Mortal, if you want to help those people
you need to tell them that the way they are thinking is
wrong and illogical, as well as a true SS is the one who
puts the effort in the whole thing, in learning, meditating
e.t.c. It's not us who must change to coddle them, but
they who must change their thinking and be more open minded
if they want to become SS's. They must be willing to
make the effort to ask questions about things they don't
understand such as the hate. Also tell them that even if
some things may sound off putting, they are done for logical
reasons and they would find out if they asked us about them
in the groups. That's actually what we're for. They
don't understand why "all this hate" exists?
Sure, they can ask about it in the groups. That's how
people who are seriously interested in SS act.
From the description of those people
you gave me, they are obviously not willing to put in the
effort in SS. So they aren't serious. This is a
guideline to help you see who is serious about SS or not.
Ask yourself: if he willing to put effort of his own or does
he expect other people to do everything for him? If it's
the second, that person isn't serious.

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Sims Motal · Jul 5, 2015

Ivan, Thank you for your insight and understanding.
Hail Satan!

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On Fri, 7/3/15, ivan.folghera@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Friday, July 3, 2015, 1:10 AM

The weak ones who falter because of a few harsh
words likely balk due to their own personal inadequacies.
Truly what we see in others that we despise can be (not
always but usually) a reflection of that which we
subconsciously dislike about ourselves. When one is honest
with oneself especially about the things by which we are
offended (especially when it has nothing to do with us
personally) we can break free from the need for external
validation by each and every person whom we contact.

However, I do feel that you
bring up a valid point. It has always been a sticking point
that the reason why Satanic people's have failed in the
past is due to lack of Unity, and this may be what you are
getting at??? Correct me if I am wrong. Remember that even
those who regularly give advice in these groups are also on
their own paths of personal development, and sometimes the
only way to learn is to get out and do something until
someone points out the error, be they human or God. You as
an individual have a responsibility to yourself to rise
above the mundane words of others and focus on your own
development through which you might help to bring about the
change which you desire. This requires strong spiritual
power which can be attained through regular and consistent
power meditation over a long period of time.

I'm sure that you know
this but I wanted to provide some encouragement as sometimes
that can be lacking. The trick is finding that encouragement
internally, and when that falters you can turn to the Gods,
they have encouraged me greatly along my path.

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stygian.shadowcreeper · Jul 5, 2015

Nor do we care to - apparently, some are meant to go astray from the path of Way, Truth and Life - or so they chose.

Hail Volac!
88!
HS!

Sims Motal · Jul 5, 2015

For your information, I AM NOT A NEWBIE! I have no problem with what is said, it is how some of it is said.
Hail Satan!
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On Tue, 6/9/15, joelnewton181@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2015, 8:43 AM

Just to add to what I've already said... WE
WON'T STOP COMPLAINING OR EXPOSING ANYTHING TO DO THIS
RACE THAT SEEKS TO DESTROY ANY FREEDOM AND LIFE HERE ON
EARTH. For any newbie that's confused READ ABOUT
COMMUNISM & read the protocols of the learned elders of
zion. With these aspects in mind, do you think we'll
just shut up. FUCK NO! They truly need to be annihilated
& destroyed from any & all levels of existence. To
newbies that advocate doing less are better off slaves.
@Sims There may be a lack of understanding of who these jews
are and what they have done, on your part. We're all
learning here continuously, from the new to experienced...
But did you ever care to think, that all this spiritual
advancement, Satan's kingdom can't happen if
there's still even 1 jew existing! So to all my brothers
and sisters don't stop, and for newbies start studying
and reading to understand why we can't stop, reading
from the e-groups is limited. EXPOSINGCHRISTIANITY.COM ,
http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Main.html ,
https://www.youtube.com/user/iknowthetr ... pp=desktop ...

AND READ WHAT SATAN OUR TRUE CREATOR GOD HAS TO SAY ABOUT
ABOUT SPIRITUAL AND OVERALL WARFARE HERE ON EARTH AGAINST
OUR ENEMIES THE JEWS!!!!

http://hailtosatansvictory666.angelfire ... Satan.html

HAIL SATAN!!!!

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Sims Motal · Jul 5, 2015

It's Cool!
Hail Satan!
--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 7/3/15, Yog Sothoth yogsothoth666999@... [JoyofSatan666] <[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] wrote:

Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Date: Friday, July 3, 2015, 3:28 AM

I am really sorry Sim about that post I made.
(Hopefully a medeator can remove it or not approve
it) I was overly harsh in assuming you were an
infiltrator.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for
iPad
At Jul 3, 2015, 2:56:30 AM, Yog Sothoth wrote:Wow Sam I never suspected you were an
infiltrator. This is really stupid you could have done more
damage by remaing hidden. And you even got a couple new
people to jump on
the 'no hate' bandwagon. You even used the oldest
tactic in the book "I'm a dedicated Satanist!
Satan talks to me! You have no right to call me out because
of that! So you should just take my word for it!"
Sorry but we are NOT going to stop exposing,
fighting, hateing and DISTROYING the enemies of
Satan. What you failed to understand is that we Gentiles
naturally hate and want to stop your kind. No matter what
nuu age propaganda or selfish (more stuff about
growing! less about fighting the enemy!) We Gentiles are NOT
selfish like your kind, sure some don't understand the
gravity of the situation we're in but they will learn in
time (thanks to our efforts) You better find a deep fucking
cave to hide because we're coming. You can't hide
from spiritual justice you fucking trator. Side
note: it's funny how this came hot off the heels of the

recent sermon by HP Maxine about hate and HP Cobras new
destruction ritual, I
mean how obvious can you get!
To all
the people who said they are more intrested in
"growing" then fighting for Satan. This is
explaned clearly on the main site. Satan said regarding
those who only care about themselves and don't do
anything for the world "they are of no use to
me"

At Jul 2, 2015, 5:33:01 PM, Sims Motal
simsmotal@... [JoyofSatan666] wrote:

I understand all that quite clearly. And I am a
dedicated Satanist! I am just saying that sometimes it

is so out there that it can and does turn some, otherwise,
possible followers of Satan away! I fully

understand why Father hates the jews, the lies, etc. I love
Father Satan with all my heart. But you

have no right to tell me that I don't belong here!
Father has been good to me. He has spoken to

me more than once. I know HE loves me! It is not what is
said here, it is how it is said. Sometimes

the words make me flinch, knowing that we might be losing
folks that would otherwise turn to

Father. I want those who might otherwise come to Father to
not be turned away. It takes time for

people who have been Xtians, or whatever all their lives to
understand the obvious hate.

I want those lost people to come to Father! Not be turned
away! I am saying that some things

need to be approached a little differently. You can't
throw

college stuff at folks still in kindergarten!

Hail Satan!

--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 6/9/15, dalightskin@... [JoyofSatan666]
wrote:

Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things

To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]

Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2015, 12:39 PM

Please understand that the reason we get into the

jew stuff is because we see ourselves obligated to be
the

protectors of humanity, as long as the jews have their
way

with our planet it will always be incomplete.

You need to realize that we in this group are not men
here

to make peace, we are men here to make war for the sake
of

peace. If you are all about "peace and love"
and

don't believe in destroying evil for the sake of
good

then you are probably not suitable for this group. We
are

WARRIORS of Satan, we fight for the sake of good, if you

don't understand then you are welcome to leave the
JoS,

but I wouldn't recommend it, especially after its
gotten

you started on your path to enlightenment.

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Yog Sothoth · Jul 5, 2015

<td val[/IMG]No YOU just don't get it. We are NOT about getting random people to join Satanism. Especially ones that don't care about the world and only want to use Satanism as a way to gain power. This is not xtianity where we twist around the meaning of things to get new followers. Satanist are born not made, most of us have been with Satan for many lifetimes and were meant to become Satanist. We keep it real here. Yes there are problems with the yahoo group, But only because of lazy bums who don't read and study information for themselves, egotistical new people who think they are gods and know better then experienced members and infiltrators. I am starting to think your one of the latter.
I suppose we should change our policy on drugs to get some new members... Maybe we should also stop telling people to meditate everyday, because hey that's fucking hard they might not like "Blindest is he who doesn't want to see" Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

At Jul 4, 2015, 5:25:18 AM, Sims Motal simsmotal@... [JoyofSatan666] wrote: That was a poor example on my part. I admit that. But a person desiring to come to Father
for the first time, or even maybe a second time, who does not truly know what is going on,
cannot fully understand what they see here. That is what I am saying.

And one of these weak-minded people you are referring to, happens to be someone dear
to me with an IQ well above average. He is against Xtianity, jewish lies, etc. Totally.
But he hasn't been around the JoS website long enough to know what it really entails.
Though he hates the lies -- he is turned off by so much hate talk. Given time, he might
feel differently. But he hasn't studied enough. I don't want to see fine people like
him turning away because people can't talk a little differently. Yet, in a round about way,
he is working for Father. But he refuses to join the JoS group.
I hope I made that clear enough. Father doesn't want us fighting or arguing amongst ourselves.
I am still hoping, that in time, he will come back.
Hail Satan!
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On Thu, 7/2/15, j.l3mm0n@... [JoyofSatan666] wrote:

Subject: Re: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Need more spiritual things
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015, 9:19 PM

Not to mention they aren't even "college
stuff", they are basic things for every SS to know,
they ARE kindergarten stuff. SS IS about hate, it IS about
hating our enemies. That's for even newbies to know. If
someone doesn't like "hate" then it's
better for him to become a Wiccan. He will do us more harm
than good if he becomes a SS because he will become wishy
washy. SS isn't for wishy washy people.

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the_fire_starter666 · Jul 5, 2015

@call_me_something_else: No. He said:
"Hey, Sisters and Brothers in Satan. I fully understand the hatred of jews, xtians, muslims, etc. And Iknow Father hates them as well. However, I see far, far too much hate and bashing going on in comparisonto learning and growing spiritually in Satanism here. I would like to see much less talk of hate and worrying
about whether one has a drop of jew blood or not, and a lot more assistance and instruction on how to live
our lives and build ourselves up spiritually for Father Satan.
I know that the Joy of Satan website is the best, by far, website out there for those that want to follow
our true God, Satan. And there is much to learn there. I highly respect the clergy, etc. But let us please
focus more on learning more about Father Satan and building ourselves as Spiritual Satanists, and
focus less on whether someone is a jew or not. Gads! Honestly, I have come so close more than once
to just walk away from the groups here because of it. I want to learn and grow, not constantly see
all the hate. And I am sure it has turned away many a person who would otherwise come to Father
willingly. Sure, be honest as to your feelings, but lets not overdo. Please. And from what I see,
it has grown much worse. There will be rituals from the clergy to deal with this. You don't have
to like jews etc., just focus more on spiritual growth, please, than on all the negativity. I know it can't
be good for ones soul or ability to grown."
See in the above text he said nothing about the way we do it. He simply wants "less hate" and more talk about meditations because he mistakenly says it hinders our spiritual growth e.t.c. As if expressing our hate against enemies is not part of our spiriutal advancement somehow. It obviously shows he had the wrong idea. It's more obvious when he uses the word "negativity" to imply that hate is bad. If he doesn't think hate is bad why use the word negativity?
See @OP many people read the exposing christianity site and feel anger for being lied those years by those assholes running those enemy programs. Those people need to express their anger and hate in the only forum that allows them to. If any person such as your friends doesn't understand this then they aren't true SS's. See, you also should tell them to understand them that and respect at as the JoS site is pretty much the only site we can express our hate against any enemies of Satan freely without getting banned. If you notice other sites ban people that "spread hatred" except if it's against whites, "racists" or things like that. How's that fair?? Of course we should be free to express hatred and those friends of yours should understand that otherwise it means they aren't true SS's. Saying that they're gonna do things for Satan doesn't immeditately mean they're true SS's. Do they hate Satan's enemies? Do they agree with it? Only if the answer is yes are they for real.

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