Near death experiences

[Sven]

I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel and a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain this?

 

[maxvonc]

During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth and comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it is your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.

But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not just yet"

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@... wrote:

I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel and a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain this?

 

[Igor]

I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a state of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution "refill".

I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with no actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing to do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under the xian influence.

It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the description of Hell on the JoS site.

Hail Father!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "maxvonc" <maxvonc@... wrote:

During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth and comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it is your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.

But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not just yet"

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel and a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain this?

 

[K]

Hey I haven't experience this before but I might have something that might help. My friend's friend died a few days ago. And during her funeral in the church. My friend is not Christian but the dead girl is. So my friend told me that she would like to see her one last time before she got buried and would like to talk to her. I asked father Satan to do this favour for me. To allow the dead girl to meet my friend one last time. So she showed a sign at first. My friend saw light of a figure in her dreams. The next day I asked father the same thing. And I told my friend to say prayers to father Satan and think about the questions she want to ask the dead girl before she goes with father. And that night, my friend was transported to the dead girl's backyard where they used to play. The girl was wearing the dress in the coffin. And she was covered by a yellow aura. She answered every single question and told my friend she had to go. I thanked father for doing
me that favour

Hail The One True God Lucifer!

Sent from my iPod

 

[Jeremy Rogers]

I want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it’s probably extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would love to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.  
From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences     I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a state of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution "refill".

I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with no actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing to do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under the xian influence.

It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the description of Hell on the JoS site.

Hail Father!

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@... wrote:

During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth and

comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it is your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.

But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not

just yet"

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com,

"Sven" <belthazorthemighty @ wrote:

I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel

and a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain this?

 

[Igor]

Beside some personal details that I would like to keep to my self (for obvious reason) more or less I was in a place (land) covered in electric-blue shimmering light. There were other ... let's say people present as well. Some of them were in piece with where they were; some of them were a bit disappointed, either by staying either by leaving. At the and, a human figure in a sort of a white-gold bright light glowing portal called for me (without a word) for it is time to go back and finish what was left to be done.

Sorry, but other details are too personal to share.

At that time I was not into Satanism or any other religion in particular. Since the bible does not describe Hell, purgatory and heaven (yet catholic denomination does but in their words these three places are described differently) I have completely ruled out the possibility of xian influence. After that I have started checking up on other religions to find out what place could that be and I found the closest match on the JoS site.

And that (together with things that correlate to the above mentioned personal details) is how my journey in Satanism began.

Hail Father!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@... wrote:

I want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably
hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it's probably
extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone
disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would love
to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal
email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.

_____

From: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] [mailto:[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences


I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a state
of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not
induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood
out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure
and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution "refill".

I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was
not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with no
actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing to
do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife
experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under
the xian influence.

It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the
description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the
description of Hell on the JoS site.

Hail Father!

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@ wrote:

During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth and
comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but
honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it is
your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.

But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not just
yet"

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel and
a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain this?

 

[Jeremy Rogers]

<b style=''>Thank you for sharing that with me, and this group. [/B]I completely understand about keeping the personal things personal, there are many reasons for that. I believe what you said about your experience to be the absolute truth. I had seen a program on the matter, it was on the Science channel I think, and there was a similar story. This guy really kept it all to himself, he gave fewer details than you did, but he said: “No one should be afraid of dying, the afterlife is a beautiful place, and death is just the beginning.” This guy was an atheist by the way, he had fallen through some thin ice in Minnesota I think, he was in a hypothermic state for 6 hours and lived, clinically dead I believe. Anyway, the stories line up, that’s the point I am making here. Spiritual Satanism is the only true religion. Satan is our One True God!   Hail Enki/Father!  
From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences     Beside some personal details that I would like to keep to my self (for obvious reason) more or less I was in a place (land) covered in electric-blue shimmering light. There were other ... let's say people present as well. Some of them were in piece with where they were; some of them were a bit disappointed, either by staying either by leaving. At the and, a human figure in a sort of a white-gold bright light glowing portal called for me (without a word) for it is time to go back and finish what was left to be done.

Sorry, but other details are too personal to share.

At that time I was not into Satanism or any other religion in particular. Since the bible does not describe Hell, purgatory and heaven (yet catholic denomination does but in their words these three places are described differently) I have completely ruled out the possibility of xian influence. After that I have started checking up on other religions to find out what place could that be and I found the closest match on the JoS site.

And that (together with things that correlate to the above mentioned personal details) is how my journey in Satanism began.

Hail Father!

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ ... wrote:

I want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably
hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it's probably
extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone
disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would

love

to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal
email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.

_____

From: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com]

On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences


I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a

state

of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not
induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood
out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure
and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution

"refill".

I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was
not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with

no

actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing

to

do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife
experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under
the xian influence.

It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the
description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the
description of Hell on the JoS site.

Hail Father!

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@ wrote:

During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth

and

comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but
honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it

is

your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.

But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No,

not just

yet"

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com, "Sven" <belthazorthemighty @

wrote:

I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a

tunnel and

a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone

explain this?

 

[Lu]

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@... wrote:

Thank you for sharing that with me, and this group. I completely understand
about keeping the personal things personal, there are many reasons for that.
I believe what you said about your experience to be the absolute truth. I
had seen a program on the matter, it was on the Science channel I think, and
there was a similar story. This guy really kept it all to himself, he gave
fewer details than you did, but he said: "No one should be afraid of dying,
the afterlife is a beautiful place, and death is just the beginning." This
guy was an atheist by the way, he had fallen through some thin ice in
Minnesota I think, he was in a hypothermic state for 6 hours and lived,
clinically dead I believe. Anyway, the stories line up, that's the point I
am making here. Spiritual Satanism is the only true religion. Satan is our
One True God!

Hail Enki/Father!

_____

From: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] [mailto:[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:16 PM
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences


Beside some personal details that I would like to keep to my self (for
obvious reason) more or less I was in a place (land) covered in
electric-blue shimmering light. There were other ... let's say people
present as well. Some of them were in piece with where they were; some of
them were a bit disappointed, either by staying either by leaving. At the
and, a human figure in a sort of a white-gold bright light glowing portal
called for me (without a word) for it is time to go back and finish what was
left to be done.

Sorry, but other details are too personal to share.

At that time I was not into Satanism or any other religion in particular.
Since the bible does not describe Hell, purgatory and heaven (yet catholic
denomination does but in their words these three places are described
differently) I have completely ruled out the possibility of xian influence.
After that I have started checking up on other religions to find out what
place could that be and I found the closest match on the JoS site.

And that (together with things that correlate to the above mentioned
personal details) is how my journey in Satanism began.

Hail Father!

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ wrote:

I want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably
hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it's probably
extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone
disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would
love
to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal
email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.

_____

From: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com [mailto:JoyofSatan666@
<mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences


I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a
state
of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not
induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood
out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure
and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution "refill".

I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was
not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with
no
actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing
to
do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife
experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under
the xian influence.

It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the
description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the
description of Hell on the JoS site.

Hail Father!

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@ wrote:

During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth
and
comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but
honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it
is
your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.

But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not
just
yet"

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel
and
a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain
this?

interesting...
Isn't Satan light?

http://www.bibleandscience.com/bible/criticism.htm

 

[Un-Make me Real]

My mother is not a Satanist... not much of anything now realy, but she has had a near death experience. It was also from an open heart surgery. She was taken by a shining man with kind eyes, (at the time we were Mormon, so she linked it to Jesus) and shown a picture. It was a family photo that was a bit of a look into the future (I was nine during her first open heart operation). For some odd reason She could not make out the mens faces. I listened intently to the things she described, but was puzzled by some things that didn't add up... they sure are now though. I scoffed at the description of my husband in her image because big burly strapping young men have never been my thing (I generally like leaner bulds), but sure enough, that's exactly my baby, even down to the hair color. Also, there was a mystery girl in the photo who my mother could not figure out the relation to anyone else... A beautiful little girl who was older than any of my children in the photo with curly red hair. My beloved has a daughter who completely fits the bill. I sure wasn't chasing them, as I sure didn't intend to fall for him, and he had his child after I was already head over heals (plus we didn't know who the girl was to begin with) I think it was fathers way of telling her that her life would get better if she just held on.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Lu" <crescentstarmoonrise@... wrote:



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ wrote:

Thank you for sharing that with me, and this group. I completely understand
about keeping the personal things personal, there are many reasons for that.
I believe what you said about your experience to be the absolute truth. I
had seen a program on the matter, it was on the Science channel I think, and
there was a similar story. This guy really kept it all to himself, he gave
fewer details than you did, but he said: "No one should be afraid of dying,
the afterlife is a beautiful place, and death is just the beginning." This
guy was an atheist by the way, he had fallen through some thin ice in
Minnesota I think, he was in a hypothermic state for 6 hours and lived,
clinically dead I believe. Anyway, the stories line up, that's the point I
am making here. Spiritual Satanism is the only true religion. Satan is our
One True God!

Hail Enki/Father!

_____

From: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] [mailto:[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:16 PM
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences


Beside some personal details that I would like to keep to my self (for
obvious reason) more or less I was in a place (land) covered in
electric-blue shimmering light. There were other ... let's say people
present as well. Some of them were in piece with where they were; some of
them were a bit disappointed, either by staying either by leaving. At the
and, a human figure in a sort of a white-gold bright light glowing portal
called for me (without a word) for it is time to go back and finish what was
left to be done.

Sorry, but other details are too personal to share.

At that time I was not into Satanism or any other religion in particular.
Since the bible does not describe Hell, purgatory and heaven (yet catholic
denomination does but in their words these three places are described
differently) I have completely ruled out the possibility of xian influence.
After that I have started checking up on other religions to find out what
place could that be and I found the closest match on the JoS site.

And that (together with things that correlate to the above mentioned
personal details) is how my journey in Satanism began.

Hail Father!

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ wrote:

I want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably
hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it's probably
extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone
disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would
love
to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal
email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.

_____

From: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com [mailto:JoyofSatan666@
<mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences


I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a
state
of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not
induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood
out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure
and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution "refill".

I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was
not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with
no
actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing
to
do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife
experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under
the xian influence.

It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the
description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the
description of Hell on the JoS site.

Hail Father!

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@ wrote:

During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth
and
comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but
honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it
is
your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.

But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not
just
yet"

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:

I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel
and
a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain
this?





interesting...
Isn't Satan light?

http://www.bibleandscience.com/bible/criticism.htm

 

[Joshua Breckenridge]

<td val[/IMG]I have had countless times of death, and brought backness. All three times ...I was shrouded in darkness, but off in the distance was an aray of colors ...but with a sort of water effect....almost as if I was in space, but without the stars...i could see my own hands, and when motioned within the wave and string of things, you can see the movement in echoe. I felt at peace, nothing in mind, nothing that could move me. I felt that there was no thought that could ever occure to sturr me. It was very euphoric feeling.

--- On Mon, 1/11/10, Lu <crescentstarmoonrise@... wrote:

From: Lu <crescentstarmoonrise@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 4:21 AM

 

--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ ... wrote:

Thank you for sharing that with me, and this group. I completely understand
about keeping the personal things personal, there are many reasons for that.
I believe what you said about your experience to be the absolute truth. I
had seen a program on the matter, it was on the Science channel I think, and
there was a similar story. This guy really kept it all to himself, he gave
fewer details than you did, but he said: "No one should be afraid of dying,
the afterlife is a beautiful place, and death is just the beginning." This
guy was an atheist by the way, he had fallen through some thin ice in
Minnesota I think, he was in a hypothermic state for 6 hours and lived,
clinically dead I believe. Anyway, the stories line up, that's the point I
am making here. Spiritual Satanism is the only true religion. Satan is our
One True God!

Hail Enki/Father!

_____

From: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:16 PM
To: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences


Beside some personal details that I would like to keep to my self (for
obvious reason) more or less I was in a place (land) covered in
electric-blue shimmering light. There were other ... let's say people
present as well. Some of them were in piece with where they were; some of
them were a bit disappointed, either by staying either by leaving. At the
and, a human figure in a sort of a white-gold bright light glowing portal
called for me (without a word) for it is time to go back and finish what was
left to be done.

Sorry, but other details are too personal to share.

At that time I was not into Satanism or any other religion in particular.
Since the bible does not describe Hell, purgatory and heaven (yet catholic
denomination does but in their words these three places are described
differently) I have completely ruled out the possibility of xian influence.
After that I have started checking up on other religions to find out what
place could that be and I found the closest match on the JoS site.

And that (together with things that correlate to the above mentioned
personal details) is how my journey in Satanism began.

Hail Father!

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com, "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ wrote:

I want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably
hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it's probably
extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone
disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would
love
to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal
email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.

_____

From: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com [mailto:JoyofSatan6 66@
<mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences


I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a
state
of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not
induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood
out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure
and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution "refill".

I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was
not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with
no
actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing
to
do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife
experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under
the xian influence.

It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the
description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the
description of Hell on the JoS site.

Hail Father!

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@ wrote:

During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth
and
comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but
honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it
is
your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.

But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not
just
yet"

--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com, "Sven" <belthazorthemighty @ wrote:

I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel
and
a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain
this?





interesting. ..
Isn't Satan light?

http://www.bibleand science.com/ bible/criticism. htm

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