--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@... wrote:
I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel and a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain this?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "maxvonc" <maxvonc@... wrote:
During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth and comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it is your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.
But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not just yet"
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:
I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel and a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain this?
comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it is your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth and
just yet"But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not
"Sven" <belthazorthemighty @ wrote:--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com,
and a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain this?I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@... wrote:
I want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably
hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it's probably
extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone
disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would love
to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal
email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.
_____
From: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] [mailto:[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences
I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a state
of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not
induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood
out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure
and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution "refill".
I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was
not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with no
actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing to
do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife
experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under
the xian influence.
It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the
description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the
description of Hell on the JoS site.
Hail Father!
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@ wrote:
During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth and
comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but
honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it is
your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.
But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not just
yet"
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:
I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel and
a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain this?
loveI want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably
hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it's probably
extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone
disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would
[mailto:JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com]to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal
email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.
_____
From: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
stateOn Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences
I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a
"refill".of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not
induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood
out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure
and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution
noI've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was
not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with
toactual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing
anddo with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife
experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under
the xian influence.
It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the
description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the
description of Hell on the JoS site.
Hail Father!
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@ wrote:
During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth
iscomfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but
honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it
not justyour pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.
But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No,
wrote:yet"
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com, "Sven" <belthazorthemighty @
tunnel andI've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a
explain this?a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone
interesting...Thank you for sharing that with me, and this group. I completely understand
about keeping the personal things personal, there are many reasons for that.
I believe what you said about your experience to be the absolute truth. I
had seen a program on the matter, it was on the Science channel I think, and
there was a similar story. This guy really kept it all to himself, he gave
fewer details than you did, but he said: "No one should be afraid of dying,
the afterlife is a beautiful place, and death is just the beginning." This
guy was an atheist by the way, he had fallen through some thin ice in
Minnesota I think, he was in a hypothermic state for 6 hours and lived,
clinically dead I believe. Anyway, the stories line up, that's the point I
am making here. Spiritual Satanism is the only true religion. Satan is our
One True God!
Hail Enki/Father!
_____
From: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] [mailto:[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:16 PM
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences
Beside some personal details that I would like to keep to my self (for
obvious reason) more or less I was in a place (land) covered in
electric-blue shimmering light. There were other ... let's say people
present as well. Some of them were in piece with where they were; some of
them were a bit disappointed, either by staying either by leaving. At the
and, a human figure in a sort of a white-gold bright light glowing portal
called for me (without a word) for it is time to go back and finish what was
left to be done.
Sorry, but other details are too personal to share.
At that time I was not into Satanism or any other religion in particular.
Since the bible does not describe Hell, purgatory and heaven (yet catholic
denomination does but in their words these three places are described
differently) I have completely ruled out the possibility of xian influence.
After that I have started checking up on other religions to find out what
place could that be and I found the closest match on the JoS site.
And that (together with things that correlate to the above mentioned
personal details) is how my journey in Satanism began.
Hail Father!
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ wrote:
I want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably
hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it's probably
extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone
disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would
love
to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal
email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.
_____
From: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com [mailto:JoyofSatan666@
<mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences
I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a
state
of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not
induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood
out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure
and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution "refill".
I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was
not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with
no
actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing
to
do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife
experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under
the xian influence.
It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the
description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the
description of Hell on the JoS site.
Hail Father!
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@ wrote:
During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth
and
comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but
honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it
is
your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.
But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not
just
yet"
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:
I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel
and
a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain
this?
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Lu" <crescentstarmoonrise@... wrote:
--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ wrote:
Thank you for sharing that with me, and this group. I completely understand
about keeping the personal things personal, there are many reasons for that.
I believe what you said about your experience to be the absolute truth. I
had seen a program on the matter, it was on the Science channel I think, and
there was a similar story. This guy really kept it all to himself, he gave
fewer details than you did, but he said: "No one should be afraid of dying,
the afterlife is a beautiful place, and death is just the beginning." This
guy was an atheist by the way, he had fallen through some thin ice in
Minnesota I think, he was in a hypothermic state for 6 hours and lived,
clinically dead I believe. Anyway, the stories line up, that's the point I
am making here. Spiritual Satanism is the only true religion. Satan is our
One True God!
Hail Enki/Father!
_____
From: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url] [mailto:[url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:16 PM
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences
Beside some personal details that I would like to keep to my self (for
obvious reason) more or less I was in a place (land) covered in
electric-blue shimmering light. There were other ... let's say people
present as well. Some of them were in piece with where they were; some of
them were a bit disappointed, either by staying either by leaving. At the
and, a human figure in a sort of a white-gold bright light glowing portal
called for me (without a word) for it is time to go back and finish what was
left to be done.
Sorry, but other details are too personal to share.
At that time I was not into Satanism or any other religion in particular.
Since the bible does not describe Hell, purgatory and heaven (yet catholic
denomination does but in their words these three places are described
differently) I have completely ruled out the possibility of xian influence.
After that I have started checking up on other religions to find out what
place could that be and I found the closest match on the JoS site.
And that (together with things that correlate to the above mentioned
personal details) is how my journey in Satanism began.
Hail Father!
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ wrote:
I want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably
hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it's probably
extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone
disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would
love
to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal
email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.
_____
From: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com [mailto:JoyofSatan666@
<mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences
I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a
state
of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not
induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood
out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure
and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution "refill".
I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was
not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with
no
actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing
to
do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife
experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under
the xian influence.
It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the
description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the
description of Hell on the JoS site.
Hail Father!
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@ wrote:
During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth
and
comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but
honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it
is
your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.
But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not
just
yet"
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan666%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com, "Sven" <belthazorthemighty@ wrote:
I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel
and
a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain
this?
interesting...
Isn't Satan light?
http://www.bibleandscience.com/bible/criticism.htm
[/TD]--- On Mon, 1/11/10, Lu <crescentstarmoonrise@... wrote:
From: Lu <crescentstarmoonrise@...
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 4:21 AM
--- In JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com, "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ ... wrote:
Thank you for sharing that with me, and this group. I completely understand
about keeping the personal things personal, there are many reasons for that.
I believe what you said about your experience to be the absolute truth. I
had seen a program on the matter, it was on the Science channel I think, and
there was a similar story. This guy really kept it all to himself, he gave
fewer details than you did, but he said: "No one should be afraid of dying,
the afterlife is a beautiful place, and death is just the beginning." This
guy was an atheist by the way, he had fallen through some thin ice in
Minnesota I think, he was in a hypothermic state for 6 hours and lived,
clinically dead I believe. Anyway, the stories line up, that's the point I
am making here. Spiritual Satanism is the only true religion. Satan is our
One True God!
Hail Enki/Father!
_____
From: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 2:16 PM
To: JoyofSatan666@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences
Beside some personal details that I would like to keep to my self (for
obvious reason) more or less I was in a place (land) covered in
electric-blue shimmering light. There were other ... let's say people
present as well. Some of them were in piece with where they were; some of
them were a bit disappointed, either by staying either by leaving. At the
and, a human figure in a sort of a white-gold bright light glowing portal
called for me (without a word) for it is time to go back and finish what was
left to be done.
Sorry, but other details are too personal to share.
At that time I was not into Satanism or any other religion in particular.
Since the bible does not describe Hell, purgatory and heaven (yet catholic
denomination does but in their words these three places are described
differently) I have completely ruled out the possibility of xian influence.
After that I have started checking up on other religions to find out what
place could that be and I found the closest match on the JoS site.
And that (together with things that correlate to the above mentioned
personal details) is how my journey in Satanism began.
Hail Father!
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com, "Jeremy Rogers" <truthbeknown666@ wrote:
I want to hear more about your experience of clinical death. You probably
hear that all the time when you talk about it. And I know it's probably
extremely personal to you and you might be really offended if someone
disagreed with what you saw, because you know it as truth, BUT I would
love
to hear it sometime, it interests me. You could always write me a personal
email, and keep it out of the group if you think it might be ridiculed.
_____
From: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com [mailto:JoyofSatan6 66@
<mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of Igor
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:00 AM
To: JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com
Subject: [JoyofSatan666] Re: Near death experiences
I rarely share this around, but since you brought this up, I was in a
state
of induced clinical death during the open-heart surgery procedure. Not
induced coma but death by cooling the body to the 16°C, draining the blood
out of it, keeping it that way for 35 minutes during the actual procedure
and then worming it up gradually by warmed-up blood & solution "refill".
I've been ... hm ... there and I've seen ... something. Fortunately it was
not under any cultural or religious influence since I was a sceptic with
no
actual beliefs therefore without any biases. What I have seen had nothing
to
do with the so fare recorded (and widely available) so-called afterlife
experiences, neither positive, neither negative, especially the ones under
the xian influence.
It took me two years of researching different religions to find out the
description of what I have seen. The closest description of that was the
description of Hell on the JoS site.
Hail Father!
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com, "maxvonc" <maxvonc@ wrote:
During my near-death experience, I just got a great feeling of warmth
and
comfort. There are many scientific explanations for these things, but
honestly? Faith is what you make of it. If you choose to believe that it
is
your pleasure neurons firing, then perhaps it is.
But personally, I like to believe that the gods were saying "No, not
just
yet"
--- In JoyofSatan666@ <mailto:JoyofSatan6 66%40yahoogroups .com
yahoogroups. com, "Sven" <belthazorthemighty @ wrote:
I've never had one but a lot of people seem to say there is a tunnel
and
a faceless figure of light they claim to be "god". Can anyone explain
this?
interesting. ..
Isn't Satan light?
http://www.bibleand science.com/ bible/criticism. htm
"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan