Meaning of reproduction/pregnancy

[Osiris]

I know it continues life and genes. I am confused about some opinions. Because it does bring about pain and suffer during the process of pregnancy and childbirth, there are views that it is something of karma and punishment to the mother. I don't agree upon that. I remember Lydia said pregnancy carries some spiritual meaning. And Greys cannot reproduce.

I want to know more about meaning of reproduction/pregnancy.

 

[Fiery Pluto]

The pain of childbirth and the weeping of the child after it are a metaphor for the pain and suffering in life. It is the pain that has to be overcome in order to reach a superior state of being and the continuation of life. The new life and the superior state of being are in the child that inherit the karma of the species and it is the contiuation of the species.

 

[HPS Lydia]

Nothing great comes easy. The amount of pain in childbirth is said to kill a man, that's what women have to go through to bring a new life into the world. Mothers all say it was worth it, and it makes them feel stronger, going through all that pain to bring a bundle of joy into their life.

The only issue is if there are problems in the delivery that lead to life-altering damage for the mother (this is rare though), but this will be prevented with humanity becoming more spiritual and more awareness to proper childbirth.

 

[Osiris]

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Nothing great comes easy. The amount of pain in childbirth is said to kill a man, that's what women have to go through to bring a new life into the world. Mothers all say it was worth it, and it makes them feel stronger, going through all that pain to bring a bundle of joy into their life.

The only issue is if there are problems in the delivery that lead to life-altering damage for the mother (this is rare though), but this will be prevented with humanity becoming more spiritual and more awareness to proper childbirth.

So is it a Jewish thinking that such pain is karma and punishment to the mother because they choose to be pregnant?

 

[MiniMe3388]

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Nothing great comes easy. The amount of pain in childbirth is said to kill a man, that's what women have to go through to bring a new life into the world. Mothers all say it was worth it, and it makes them feel stronger, going through all that pain to bring a bundle of joy into their life.

The only issue is if there are problems in the delivery that lead to life-altering damage for the mother (this is rare though), but this will be prevented with humanity becoming more spiritual and more awareness to proper childbirth.

Is it okay to have an anesthetic injection?
My friend when she gave birth preferred to have it.

 

[serpentwalker666]

Everything in life that is meaningful is oftentimes hard. Birth and the creation of life is truly divine and wonderful. Unfortunately this is and will never be a comfortable process. It will always be difficult and painful.

However thankfully we live in the 21st century and women in labor have the option of anesthesia, pain medicine if they are having to hard of a time with labor.

I'm sure in time things will change to where most of humanity won't need these sorts of options, but for the time being this is how some people go about this, if the process is too hard for them.

Regardless the point I'm trying to make is pain is a part of life whether we like it or not. Childbirth is very beautiful and gifts new life to the world.

Try to meditate and understand this.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

Seeing that menstruating itself is often already painful for many women, and that in the old medicine studies it is being said that this is abnormal..

It is not unlikely that childbirth for humans is also more painful nowadays than that it should be.

Do you see birthing animals whimper and whine if things go well? (I am not talking distressed cow in labor that cant get the calf out.) Yet in humans its often quite dramatic.

 

[Henu the Great]

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You never provided any sources for your argument regarding eating only meat other than what you read from the Vedas. You forget (or ignore) that it is equally been corrupted just like any other 'holy text' over time.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

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You never provided any sources for your argument regarding eating only meat other than what you read from the Vedas. You forget (or ignore) that it is equally been corrupted just like any other 'holy text' over time.

I hadnt realized that this was what he meant by the picture. Couldn't put the things together.

No eating more or only meat is *not* the solution to menstrual cramps. Nor to pregnancy issues.

 

[Antares Warrior]

Seeing that menstruating itself is often already painful for many women, and that in the old medicine studies it is being said that this is abnormal..

It is not unlikely that childbirth for humans is also more painful nowadays than that it should be.

Do you see birthing animals whimper and whine if things go well? (I am not talking distressed cow in labor that cant get the calf out.) Yet in humans its often quite dramatic.

Agreed. Humans are putting themselves through unnecessary pain, and then simply shrugging it off with ridiculous rhetoric like it's supposed to be painful. No one will believe in anything other than the current mainstream jewish dogma until a large enough group of people solve the problems...with a simple trick.

Cow meat is bad.

 

[Aquarius]

Seeing that menstruating itself is often already painful for many women, and that in the old medicine studies it is being said that this is abnormal..

It is not unlikely that childbirth for humans is also more painful nowadays than that it should be.

Do you see birthing animals whimper and whine if things go well? (I am not talking distressed cow in labor that cant get the calf out.) Yet in humans its often quite dramatic.

Agreed. Humans are putting themselves through unnecessary pain, and then simply shrugging it off with ridiculous rhetoric like it's supposed to be painful. No one will believe in anything other than the current mainstream jewish dogma until a large enough group of people solve the problems...with a simple trick.

Cow meat is bad.

It's actually pretty good. The wagyu meat especially, nice and fatty. I recently made myself 3 litres of grass fed tallow and a couple of jars of beef bones that stayed 15 hours in the pan, simmering. Very very tasty.

 

[Lunar Dance 666]

Agreed. Humans are putting themselves through unnecessary pain, and then simply shrugging it off with ridiculous rhetoric like it's supposed to be painful. No one will believe in anything other than the current mainstream jewish dogma until a large enough group of people solve the problems...with a simple trick.

Cow meat is bad.

It's actually pretty good. The wagyu meat especially, nice and fatty. I recently made myself 3 litres of grass fed tallow and a couple of jars of beef bones that stayed 15 hours in the pan, simmering. Very very tasty.

I hope the super fatty cow meat... that the cow had a proper life and could walk freely and was not stuck in a shed for a long time.
If you don't use your muscles you can get fat deposits within your muscles. It has made me a bit wary of that said "expensive juicy fatty cow meat" in Japan. I hope you understand what I mean here.

 

[Aquarius]

Cow meat is bad.

It's actually pretty good. The wagyu meat especially, nice and fatty. I recently made myself 3 litres of grass fed tallow and a couple of jars of beef bones that stayed 15 hours in the pan, simmering. Very very tasty.

I hope the super fatty cow meat... that the cow had a proper life and could walk freely and was not stuck in a shed for a long time.
If you don't use your muscles you can get fat deposits within your muscles. It has made me a bit wary of that said "expensive juicy fatty cow meat" in Japan. I hope you understand what I mean here.

Japan's wagyu is a cow that is treated as a princess, it gets massages and all the like, that's why it costs 400€ for a kg. I don't get the Japan's original meat for a reason lol

 

[Henu the Great]

I hadnt realized that this was what he meant by the picture. Couldn't put the things together.

No eating more or only meat is *not* the solution to menstrual cramps. Nor to pregnancy issues.

Yes, but meat and so on are great for repleshining vitality after menstruation as most animal products contain a lot of building blocks that are lost during it.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

I hadnt realized that this was what he meant by the picture. Couldn't put the things together.

No eating more or only meat is *not* the solution to menstrual cramps. Nor to pregnancy issues.

Yes, but meat and so on are great for repleshining vitality after menstruation as most animal products contain a lot of building blocks that are lost during it.

The thing with eating, and which Abyssos may not realize, is that digestion does not complete once food gets into the stomach. The solar energy still needs to process and refine, then distribute it and create the associated tissues with it, as well as power all other systems of the body at the same time.

Just shoveling more food into the body does not always equate to more vital energy, unless the solar energies are able to make use of this. Otherwise, you just get fat.

Given that most people in the 1st world are nourished enough (disregarding toxic substances or junk food), then the next step would be to add in exercise, which is the best way to increase yang energies. If the average person simply did 20 minutes of hatha yoga every day, this would stave off a huge amount of illness.

 

[Antares Warrior]

Agreed. Humans are putting themselves through unnecessary pain, and then simply shrugging it off with ridiculous rhetoric like it's supposed to be painful. No one will believe in anything other than the current mainstream jewish dogma until a large enough group of people solve the problems...with a simple trick.

Cow meat is bad.

It's actually pretty good. The wagyu meat especially, nice and fatty. I recently made myself 3 litres of grass fed tallow and a couple of jars of beef bones that stayed 15 hours in the pan, simmering. Very very tasty.

It's a cultural thing in India and soon will be in other places too. So your comment is not very nice.

 

[Karnonnos [JG]]

While I agree with Blitzkreig that a lot of these things actually come from excess (imagine an obese woman giving birth - how is this going to be pleasant for her?) and on the nature of digestion, I do have to point out that many people in the West have strong deficiencies in Vitamin A (particularly the animal-derived form), magnesium (as HPS Maxine and Shannon pointed out before, this rules over tens of thousands of processes in the human body), folate (folate deficiency causes many fetal malformations every year), selenium, copper...

One of the worst deficiencies that the medical industry flat out refuses to acknowledge is in Vitamin K2 MK4, the form of Vitamin K that passes reasonably well through the placenta, hence why American babies have to be injected at birth with Vitamin K in the form of phylloquinone or menaquinone due to the ridiculous amount of blood clots in newborns (due to industrial farming, no grass and sunlight, butter and ghee by and large no longer has Vitamin K2 MK4, nor does poultry legs or fat). MK4 is the primary form of Vitamin K stored in the brain and it has many applications with heart health, teeth health and so on, it also stimulates glutathione, the most major antioxidant in the brain and nerves. All of this is known in medical journals yet doctors bury their head in the sand and demand more injections because 'its easier'.

Furthermore, subsections of the western population suffer from malnourishment with the B Vitamins (including riboflavin which governs many processes of the body, though this deficiency is far more common in the third world), zinc and in many other minerals.

Vitamin D is ludicrously low among vegans to the point where vegan kids have revived the condition of rickets, but even normal people struggle with this.

Eating muscle meats (like steak) and ground beef made of various crap, along with processed meats that often strip the nutritional content out, doesn't come close to satisfying certain nutritional needs, especially in pregnancy. Humans NEED to eat offal, particularly liver. This has gone out of fashion due to people being puerile about the taste, weirded out by guts and snobbish about 'peasant foods', but there is no real substitute.

I know some people love salads but only munching on certain leaves like kale all day doesn't really help either, especially for women. Vegetables are not all cut of the same cloth, vegetables have distinct properties with each variety and certain vegetables are not all that bioavailable, even if they happen to be fashionable and light on the stomach. The Greeks viewed things like lettuce in specific contexts.

Sugar has damaged many people's dental health beyond repair and can also destroy one's mood on a regular basis. The amount of honey (an animal-made carb that is excellent for human health) in the human diet has reduced dramatically lately, compared to endless amounts of shit and hyper processed carbs. There is also a lot of fake honey going around.

On top of long-term hormonal problems caused by industrial chemicals in plastics proven to assault human and animal (pet) fertility like DEHP, it isn't really a shock that some people are walking around hideously depressed and don't even want to exercise. Pregnant women also suffer with the cocktail of all this.

I do not think eating a cow is going to remove the pain of childbirth but eating liver occasionally, K2 MK4 products, maintaining healthy magnesium levels and things like this may reduce the prevalence of postpartum bleeding, postpartum depression, babies with blood clotting (which no doubt affects the mother) and other problems.

 

[serpentwalker666]

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The thing with eating, and which Abyssos may not realize, is that digestion does not complete once food gets into the stomach.

In the workweek, gotta keep this short.

In the longpost that I'm planning, I will devote an enormous amount of attention to explaining the entire process of digestion, and I do mean the entire process of digestion. No wonder you people don't understand what I'm talking about. I clearly have my work ahead of me in providing every single source from A to Z and giving a detailed explanation of how the body works, and how the entire digestion process works.

Work has been brutal. Another hit like all of last week will kill me. Yesterday was grueling. Today wasn't quite as bad. I'm keeping with the spiritual practice very punctually. I'm doing all I can do with what little time, resources and energy I have left over after my manual labor job. My life is a waiting game, I'm waiting as fast as I can.

Once I compile the massive longpost that I'm planning, and once I post it here, my job regarding the presentation of this subject here at Ancient Forums will be done. I will not devote any more attention to trying to convince anyone here about the Carnivore Diet. Once I have given everyone here a fair chance at seeing all of the facts with all of the sources laid out conveniently in front of them, I will no longer bother, as I know that people are not convinced by facts, evidence, and observable reality. No one with an IQ below 140 will ever be convinced of anything, they will only believe what they were taught when they were toddlers, and whatever the ruling powers commands them to believe. The principle of Ideological Separatism is the action of taking advantage of the fact that opposing factions refuse to accept principles that lead to greater power and vitality. This leads to an ever-growing advantage, as the other side will never accept the truth, even when they observe that the other side is becoming far more powerful than them. Once a great enough advantage has been achieved, the stronger side is morally obligated to exert Ideological Imperialism by overpowering and dominating all opposing sides in order to prevent the travesty of further innocent souls of their respective race having the misfortune of reincarnating into debilitating communities. It must be remembered that the only Imperialism is LEBENSRAUM. Everyone knows the totality of EXACTLY what that means, I shall not explain further, as all National Socialists understand the full scope of the word LEBENSRAUM, and no misunderstandings are possible with those whose hearts truly belong to the movement.

I am obligated to endure this disagreement in the name of posterity. I will devote what little spare time and energy I have to the long haul that is set before me.

Ending it here, I cannot afford to spend any more time. Also, Henu the Great has been fooled, and I won't bother trying to unfool him. It's not a big deal either way. It's an IQ test.

Dietary restrictions are not a part of Satanism. People are free to eat and drink how they please, however we all try to err on the side of proper health and balance.
Humans are naturally omnivores. Trying to just offer whatever information by some hard-core carnivores doesn't change this reality.

Humans were taught how to grow crops and eat balanced, the Gods instructed in this.

If you want to come off as rude and just demean other members because they don't agree with your strange viewpoints, this is not a sign of big IQ like you claim.. This is a sign that you need to work on correcting this bad behavior. As that is not a way to be.

You don't see more advanced members and people with alot of knowledge trying to demean and ridicule over some petty disagreement. Keep this in mind.

You can see how they try to help and guide.
One must be responsible with understanding, wisdom and knowledge. This demeaning and saying "they can't understand" helps no one and could tarnish your reputation.

Just accept someone doesn't agree with you or sees it differently. Learn from this and move on and drop your ego a couple notches. We are all here to advance.

We will always have people to agree or disagree, argue or debate in life. That's just the reality of existing.

How we handle this is important.

 

[Henu the Great]

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You talk so much. Spend some time on spiritual advancement, too.