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I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.
 
You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@... wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.
 
I have my philosophers stone and I'm not risen (yet). It was my understanding that you need the philosophers stone first.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@... wrote:

You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.
 
o OK. I have my philosophers stone and have been doing the Magnum opus for a couple years now. I see what your saying now. I was like ermm did I go to fast? lol

I seen a post that said risen and then Magnum Opus and then philosophers stone. I think it was by Kai Purr. Right so Its saying like the whole 13 steps of the Magnum opus or whatever. Ok that makes sense.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lydia_666@..." <lydia_666@... wrote:

I have my philosophers stone and I'm not risen (yet). It was my understanding that you need the philosophers stone first.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.
 
When vovim talked about getting the External Elixers, did he mean the Solar and Lunar energies into the Pineal Gland?

I have seen alot on circulating the elixers. Then later they will circulate on their own. Is This step one of the Magnum opus when they say circulating the elixers?



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@... wrote:


o OK. I have my philosophers stone and have been doing the Magnum opus for a couple years now. I see what your saying now. I was like ermm did I go to fast? lol

I seen a post that said risen and then Magnum Opus and then philosophers stone. I think it was by Kai Purr. Right so Its saying like the whole 13 steps of the Magnum opus or whatever. Ok that makes sense.



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

I have my philosophers stone and I'm not risen (yet). It was my understanding that you need the philosophers stone first.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.
 
Works different for everyone.
With mine inicial rising I didn't
Do the magnum opus
But lots meditations daily
Like hours
Also merkaba!
Hail Satan

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@... wrote
I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.
 
Yes that was my understanding.I am preparing for the stone myself.



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I feel like other on here that the Mer ka bah is the most power one.I can feel my aura expanding everytime I do it.


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I have been doing that penal meditation for a couple of months now and yes it is very balancing for me.


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one leads to the other,doesnt matter which come first,both accelerate both working/advancement/healing process.
 
the philosopher stone can be used to help one ascend in a comparatively short time,instead of taking decades,due to its amplifying quality and perfect/god energy,ie,saturating the chakras with all 3 elixirs,and amplifying the energy by its circulation throughout the soul.
 
 
being in our intended state of being,the ascension,it will make the working and act of the the stone restoration much easier,with one heightened and restored senses,higher level of concentration and 'magical strength',intuition and understanding.serpents have it much easier compared to an 'normal' human in constructing the stone and perfecting it.

 
there's no such thing as going to fast,too slow maybe,if one the type that dallies around wasting their precious time.its a natural process,saying one going too fast is like looking at a plant and saying its growing too fast while its how its naturally is.
 
From: damnplanetsaturn <damnplanetsaturn@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:24 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Magnum Opus

 

When vovim talked about getting the External Elixers, did he mean the Solar and Lunar energies into the Pineal Gland?

I have seen alot on circulating the elixers. Then later they will circulate on their own. Is This step one of the Magnum opus when they say circulating the elixers?

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@... wrote:


o OK. I have my philosophers stone and have been doing the Magnum opus for a couple years now. I see what your saying now. I was like ermm did I go to fast? lol

I seen a post that said risen and then Magnum Opus and then philosophers stone. I think it was by Kai Purr. Right so Its saying like the whole 13 steps of the Magnum opus or whatever. Ok that makes sense.



--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

I have my philosophers stone and I'm not risen (yet). It was my understanding that you need the philosophers stone first.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.








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Thank you Catslover I needed to hear that. :)



--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Catlovers Foreva <catloversforeva@... wrote:

one leads to the other,doesnt matter which come first,both accelerate both working/advancement/healing process.
 
the philosopher stone can be used to help one ascend in a comparatively short time,instead of taking decades,due to its amplifying quality and perfect/god energy,ie,saturating the chakras with all 3 elixirs,and amplifying the energy by its circulation throughout the soul.
 
 
being in our intended state of being,the ascension,it will make the working and act of the the stone restoration much easier,with one heightened and restored senses,higher level of concentration and 'magical strength',intuition and understanding.serpents have it much easier compared to an 'normal' human in constructing the stone and perfecting it.

 
there's no such thing as going to fast,too slow maybe,if one the type that dallies around wasting their precious time.its a natural process,saying one going too fast is like looking at a plant and saying its growing too fast while its how its naturally is.
 
From: damnplanetsaturn <damnplanetsaturn@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:24 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Magnum Opus

 

When vovim talked about getting the External Elixers, did he mean the Solar and Lunar energies into the Pineal Gland?

I have seen alot on circulating the elixers. Then later they will circulate on their own. Is This step one of the Magnum opus when they say circulating the elixers?

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


o OK. I have my philosophers stone and have been doing the Magnum opus for a couple years now. I see what your saying now. I was like ermm did I go to fast? lol

I seen a post that said risen and then Magnum Opus and then philosophers stone. I think it was by Kai Purr. Right so Its saying like the whole 13 steps of the Magnum opus or whatever. Ok that makes sense.



--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

I have my philosophers stone and I'm not risen (yet). It was my understanding that you need the philosophers stone first.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
Would it be reckless to start the philosophers stone if you are younger. Or raising the kundalani. Catlovers says that there is no such thing as going to fast. I'm pretty sure on JoS maxine says that you shouldnt do it. Anybody have a opinion or experience? Plz let me know. Really want to know.



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On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 3:23 PM PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

one leads to the other,doesnt matter which come first,both accelerate both working/advancement/healing process.
 
the philosopher stone can be used to help one ascend in a comparatively short time,instead of taking decades,due to its amplifying quality and perfect/god energy,ie,saturating the chakras with all 3 elixirs,and amplifying the energy by its circulation throughout the soul.
 
 
being in our intended state of being,the ascension,it will make the working and act of the the stone restoration much easier,with one heightened and restored senses,higher level of concentration and 'magical strength',intuition and understanding.serpents have it much easier compared to an 'normal' human in constructing the stone and perfecting it.

 
there's no such thing as going to fast,too slow maybe,if one the type that dallies around wasting their precious time.its a natural process,saying one going too fast is like looking at a plant and saying its growing too fast while its how its naturally is.
 
From: damnplanetsaturn <damnplanetsaturn@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:24 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Magnum Opus

 

When vovim talked about getting the External Elixers, did he mean the Solar and Lunar energies into the Pineal Gland?

I have seen alot on circulating the elixers. Then later they will circulate on their own. Is This step one of the Magnum opus when they say circulating the elixers?

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@... wrote:


o OK. I have my philosophers stone and have been doing the Magnum opus for a couple years now. I see what your saying now. I was like ermm did I go to fast? lol

I seen a post that said risen and then Magnum Opus and then philosophers stone. I think it was by Kai Purr. Right so Its saying like the whole 13 steps of the Magnum opus or whatever. Ok that makes sense.



--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

I have my philosophers stone and I'm not risen (yet). It was my understanding that you need the philosophers stone first.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.








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No, it wouldn't be reckless in anyway. Do not place an 'age' tag on limitations, break through them. I believe in Ancient Civilizations, when Genetics and bodies were far more better in regards to handling energy [passed from Fathers and Mothers to kids], maybe the Kids did have much more powerful auras and energies and also, some may have been Risen early on. For some mind-rewiring changes though, the body needs to be mature enough. Though you can be extremely advanced before this, so when these come, they will come very smoothly.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Daniel Carstens <carstensd13@... wrote:


Would it be reckless to start the philosophers stone if you are younger. Or raising the kundalani. Catlovers says that there is no such thing as going to fast. I'm pretty sure on JoS maxine says that you shouldnt do it. Anybody have a opinion or experience? Plz let me know. Really want to know.



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On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 3:23 PM PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

one leads to the other,doesnt matter which come first,both accelerate both working/advancement/healing process.
 
the philosopher stone can be used to help one ascend in a comparatively short time,instead of taking decades,due to its amplifying quality and perfect/god energy,ie,saturating the chakras with all 3 elixirs,and amplifying the energy by its circulation throughout the soul.
 
 
being in our intended state of being,the ascension,it will make the working and act of the the stone restoration much easier,with one heightened and restored senses,higher level of concentration and 'magical strength',intuition and understanding.serpents have it much easier compared to an 'normal' human in constructing the stone and perfecting it.

 
there's no such thing as going to fast,too slow maybe,if one the type that dallies around wasting their precious time.its a natural process,saying one going too fast is like looking at a plant and saying its growing too fast while its how its naturally is.
 
From: damnplanetsaturn <damnplanetsaturn@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:24 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Magnum Opus

 

When vovim talked about getting the External Elixers, did he mean the Solar and Lunar energies into the Pineal Gland?

I have seen alot on circulating the elixers. Then later they will circulate on their own. Is This step one of the Magnum opus when they say circulating the elixers?

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


o OK. I have my philosophers stone and have been doing the Magnum opus for a couple years now. I see what your saying now. I was like ermm did I go to fast? lol

I seen a post that said risen and then Magnum Opus and then philosophers stone. I think it was by Kai Purr. Right so Its saying like the whole 13 steps of the Magnum opus or whatever. Ok that makes sense.



--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

I have my philosophers stone and I'm not risen (yet). It was my understanding that you need the philosophers stone first.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.








[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
Go as you feel, in other words.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], "hoodedcobra666" <hoodedcobra666@... wrote:

No, it wouldn't be reckless in anyway. Do not place an 'age' tag on limitations, break through them. I believe in Ancient Civilizations, when Genetics and bodies were far more better in regards to handling energy [passed from Fathers and Mothers to kids], maybe the Kids did have much more powerful auras and energies and also, some may have been Risen early on. For some mind-rewiring changes though, the body needs to be mature enough. Though you can be extremely advanced before this, so when these come, they will come very smoothly.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!!


--- In [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url], Daniel Carstens <carstensd13@ wrote:


Would it be reckless to start the philosophers stone if you are younger. Or raising the kundalani. Catlovers says that there is no such thing as going to fast. I'm pretty sure on JoS maxine says that you shouldnt do it. Anybody have a opinion or experience? Plz let me know. Really want to know.



------------------------------
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 3:23 PM PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

one leads to the other,doesnt matter which come first,both accelerate both working/advancement/healing process.
 
the philosopher stone can be used to help one ascend in a comparatively short time,instead of taking decades,due to its amplifying quality and perfect/god energy,ie,saturating the chakras with all 3 elixirs,and amplifying the energy by its circulation throughout the soul.
 
 
being in our intended state of being,the ascension,it will make the working and act of the the stone restoration much easier,with one heightened and restored senses,higher level of concentration and 'magical strength',intuition and understanding.serpents have it much easier compared to an 'normal' human in constructing the stone and perfecting it.

 
there's no such thing as going to fast,too slow maybe,if one the type that dallies around wasting their precious time.its a natural process,saying one going too fast is like looking at a plant and saying its growing too fast while its how its naturally is.
 
From: damnplanetsaturn <damnplanetsaturn@
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:24 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Magnum Opus

 

When vovim talked about getting the External Elixers, did he mean the Solar and Lunar energies into the Pineal Gland?

I have seen alot on circulating the elixers. Then later they will circulate on their own. Is This step one of the Magnum opus when they say circulating the elixers?

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


o OK. I have my philosophers stone and have been doing the Magnum opus for a couple years now. I see what your saying now. I was like ermm did I go to fast? lol

I seen a post that said risen and then Magnum Opus and then philosophers stone. I think it was by Kai Purr. Right so Its saying like the whole 13 steps of the Magnum opus or whatever. Ok that makes sense.



--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

I have my philosophers stone and I'm not risen (yet). It was my understanding that you need the philosophers stone first.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.








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choronology/age standard isnt definative,just as puberty occurs and ends differently according to each of  the individuals.the body know if its ready,or its need more time,just simply listen to your satanic intuition.let father guide you through.
 


From: hoodedcobra666 <hoodedcobra666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:31 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Magnum Opus

 
Go as you feel, in other words.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "hoodedcobra666" <hoodedcobra666@... wrote:

No, it wouldn't be reckless in anyway. Do not place an 'age' tag on limitations, break through them. I believe in Ancient Civilizations, when Genetics and bodies were far more better in regards to handling energy [passed from Fathers and Mothers to kids], maybe the Kids did have much more powerful auras and energies and also, some may have been Risen early on. For some mind-rewiring changes though, the body needs to be mature enough. Though you can be extremely advanced before this, so when these come, they will come very smoothly.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!!


--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, Daniel Carstens <carstensd13@ wrote:


Would it be reckless to start the philosophers stone if you are younger. Or raising the kundalani. Catlovers says that there is no such thing as going to fast. I'm pretty sure on JoS maxine says that you shouldnt do it. Anybody have a opinion or experience? Plz let me know. Really want to know.



------------------------------
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 3:23 PM PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

one leads to the other,doesnt matter which come first,both accelerate both working/advancement/healing process.
 
the philosopher stone can be used to help one ascend in a comparatively short time,instead of taking decades,due to its amplifying quality and perfect/god energy,ie,saturating the chakras with all 3 elixirs,and amplifying the energy by its circulation throughout the soul.
 
 
being in our intended state of being,the ascension,it will make the working and act of the the stone restoration much easier,with one heightened and restored senses,higher level of concentration and 'magical strength',intuition and understanding.serpents have it much easier compared to an 'normal' human in constructing the stone and perfecting it.

 
there's no such thing as going to fast,too slow maybe,if one the type that dallies around wasting their precious time.its a natural process,saying one going too fast is like looking at a plant and saying its growing too fast while its how its naturally is.
 
From: damnplanetsaturn <damnplanetsaturn@
To: mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:24 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Magnum Opus

 

When vovim talked about getting the External Elixers, did he mean the Solar and Lunar energies into the Pineal Gland?

I have seen alot on circulating the elixers. Then later they will circulate on their own. Is This step one of the Magnum opus when they say circulating the elixers?

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


o OK. I have my philosophers stone and have been doing the Magnum opus for a couple years now. I see what your saying now. I was like ermm did I go to fast? lol

I seen a post that said risen and then Magnum Opus and then philosophers stone. I think it was by Kai Purr. Right so Its saying like the whole 13 steps of the Magnum opus or whatever. Ok that makes sense.



--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

I have my philosophers stone and I'm not risen (yet). It was my understanding that you need the philosophers stone first.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.








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Thanks for the advice cobra. I have just always worried that if I were to start rising My kundalani the psychological and physical changes would mess with My life. I don't wanna stay up for days on end because I work My ass off more than 40 hours a week.
Not to mention the repressed feelings coming out might effect how I react to certain stressful situuations. And if I lose My job then I will be stuck on the street practicing kundalani yoga. Which is something I do not want to do. But you are very correct. I can always ask Satan.


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On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 7:04 PM PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

choronology/age standard isnt definative,just as puberty occurs and ends differently according to each of  the individuals.the body know if its ready,or its need more time,just simply listen to your satanic intuition.let father guide you through.
 


From: hoodedcobra666 <hoodedcobra666@...
To: [url=mailto:[email protected]][email protected][/url]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:31 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Magnum Opus

 
Go as you feel, in other words.

HAIL SATAN!!!!

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "hoodedcobra666" <hoodedcobra666@... wrote:

No, it wouldn't be reckless in anyway. Do not place an 'age' tag on limitations, break through them. I believe in Ancient Civilizations, when Genetics and bodies were far more better in regards to handling energy [passed from Fathers and Mothers to kids], maybe the Kids did have much more powerful auras and energies and also, some may have been Risen early on. For some mind-rewiring changes though, the body needs to be mature enough. Though you can be extremely advanced before this, so when these come, they will come very smoothly.

HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!!


--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, Daniel Carstens <carstensd13@ wrote:


Would it be reckless to start the philosophers stone if you are younger. Or raising the kundalani. Catlovers says that there is no such thing as going to fast. I'm pretty sure on JoS maxine says that you shouldnt do it. Anybody have a opinion or experience? Plz let me know. Really want to know.



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On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 3:23 PM PDT Catlovers Foreva wrote:

one leads to the other,doesnt matter which come first,both accelerate both working/advancement/healing process.
 
the philosopher stone can be used to help one ascend in a comparatively short time,instead of taking decades,due to its amplifying quality and perfect/god energy,ie,saturating the chakras with all 3 elixirs,and amplifying the energy by its circulation throughout the soul.
 
 
being in our intended state of being,the ascension,it will make the working and act of the the stone restoration much easier,with one heightened and restored senses,higher level of concentration and 'magical strength',intuition and understanding.serpents have it much easier compared to an 'normal' human in constructing the stone and perfecting it.

 
there's no such thing as going to fast,too slow maybe,if one the type that dallies around wasting their precious time.its a natural process,saying one going too fast is like looking at a plant and saying its growing too fast while its how its naturally is.
 
From: damnplanetsaturn <damnplanetsaturn@
To: mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 4:24 AM
Subject: [Advanced_Meditation] Re: Magnum Opus

 

When vovim talked about getting the External Elixers, did he mean the Solar and Lunar energies into the Pineal Gland?

I have seen alot on circulating the elixers. Then later they will circulate on their own. Is This step one of the Magnum opus when they say circulating the elixers?

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


o OK. I have my philosophers stone and have been doing the Magnum opus for a couple years now. I see what your saying now. I was like ermm did I go to fast? lol

I seen a post that said risen and then Magnum Opus and then philosophers stone. I think it was by Kai Purr. Right so Its saying like the whole 13 steps of the Magnum opus or whatever. Ok that makes sense.



--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "lydia_666@" <lydia_666@ wrote:

I have my philosophers stone and I'm not risen (yet). It was my understanding that you need the philosophers stone first.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:

You're mistaking the preliminary workings with the actual magnum opus. Circulating the elixers is merely the preliminaries. It's not all you need to do, of course the magnum opus has a lot more steps than that. And who said to not begin the philosopher's stone working if you haven't risen your kundalini? I've seen no such thing in any posts.

--- In mailto:Advanced_Meditation%40yahoogroups.com, "damnplanetsaturn" <damnplanetsaturn@ wrote:


I have a question about the Magnum Opus. Its said that you do not start the Magnum opus untill after Risen level. Yet both Kai Purr and Vovim were doing the Magnum Opus before they were risen. They were circulating the elixers and everything. Once the elixers completely fill your chakras you can expect the initial rising. -Kai Purr

So this is confusing me. They did it and said it was necessary to become Risen. Yet over here it is said to not even begin it or the Philosophers stone untill your Risen.

If anyone could clarify on this. Thanks.








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Im not sure if i received this from the gods or i made it up, but its like once u finish the other 3 steps, i was wondering because ive tried it, here we go, first i did the breathing excersizes, then i condensed the chi and started from the front of the heart chakra, then i moved to the middle of my heart chakra, then i went up the middle of my heart chakra to the middle of my throat chakra to the middle of my sixth chakra, but i think u should jus go to the middle of the throat chakra and then go back down to the other middle chakras under the heart chakra from solar plexus to sacral and the base, then i go up the spine to the back chakras up to the crown, then go to my sixth chakra and then go to the pineal gland where its down to the right a bit below the sixth chakra and continue the circuit and store it at the sacral chakra, jus inform me if this a made up situation or is it from the Gods?
 
I am not sure, but I think how it continues after the first 3 steps is individual, so your method should be fine if it works for you. (Please correct me on this if I am wrong). 
-Shael
On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 18:14, itucker2@... [Advanced_Meditation]<[email protected] wrote:   Im not sure if i received this from the gods or i made it up, but its like once u finish the other 3 steps, i was wondering because ive tried it, here we go, first i did the breathing excersizes, then i condensed the chi and started from the front of the heart chakra, then i moved to the middle of my heart chakra, then i went up the middle of my heart chakra to the middle of my throat chakra to the middle of my sixth chakra, but i think u should jus go to the middle of the throat chakra and then go back down to the other middle chakras under the heart chakra from solar plexus to sacral and the base, then i go up the spine to the back chakras up to the crown, then go to my sixth chakra and then go to the pineal gland where its down to the right a bit below the sixth chakra and continue the circuit and store it at the sacral chakra, jus inform me if this a made up situation or is it from the Gods?
 
Well maybe i could share that info, with the fact you havent start a circuit going through the middle chakras, jus the back, top, to front, but it feels good to me, jus figure id give an update we could try, and jus share what we could have from our knowledge that Satan brought us to better each other, We're a team and his children!
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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