Is the Universe Determinsitc?

[sublimesatanist]

A random and deep thought. I watched a series called "Devs" and it brought about a lot philosophical questions in myself regarding a possible deterministic outcome in all things.

This idea seems logical, yet there is some argument to it. I watched a video (link below, 20 minutes long) and it seems to purport that chaos can often become deterministic, yet chaos theory appears to rule over deterministic theory.

I'm not very smart and I can't make heads or tails of what the true nature of the universe is.

What are your thoughts on the butterfly effect? True or false? Any and all thoughts are welcome.


Thanks guys!

 

[sublimesatanist]

Oh right, link to video here:

 

[Henu the Great]

Fate or free will?

Does all of us have a prewritten fate, even in just fragments, but we fulfil? Or there is no fate at all, and everyone do by their free will? If there is fate(the one I prefer) then we all was fated to join under Satan's flag and fight ahainst our enemy. All in the previous lifes, and every...

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[Windstrider666]

Non-Determinism in Quantum Mechanics:
Non-determinism in the context of quantum mechanics refers to the fundamental unpredictability and randomness associated with the behavior of particles at the quantum level. It challenges the classical idea of determinism, where the future state of a system can be uniquely determined by its previous state and the known laws of physics. In quantum mechanics, several aspects contribute to this non-deterministic nature:

1. Wave-function and Probabilistic Predictions: In quantum mechanics, the state of a particle or system is described by a mathematical entity known as the wave-function. The wave function-encodes information about the probabilities of various measurement outcomes (e.g., position, momentum, spin) for the particle or system.
2. Uncertainty Principle: Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle is a fundamental concept in quantum mechanics that states there is an inherent limit to how precisely certain pairs of properties, such as position and momentum, can be simultaneously known. This principle introduces uncertainty and limits the determinism of classical physics.
3. Wave-Particle Duality: Particles in quantum mechanics can exhibit both wave-like and particle-like behavior, depending on how they are observed. This duality implies that the exact behavior of a particle may not be predictable with certainty until it is measured.
4. Quantum Measurement: When a measurement is made on a quantum system, the outcome is probabilistic. The wave-function collapses to one of the possible measurement outcomes, and the result is inherently random. The specific outcome cannot be precisely determined in advance; instead, quantum mechanics provides probabilities for different outcomes.
5. Entanglement: In entangled systems, the correlations between measurements on entangled particles are determined by the entangled wave-function. However, the exact outcome of each measurement is still random and unpredictable. Entanglement introduces non-local correlations between particles without allowing for information transfer faster than light.
6. No Hidden Variables: Some interpretations of quantum mechanics, such as the Copenhagen interpretation and the many-worlds interpretation, suggest that quantum measurements are fundamentally probabilistic, with no underlying "hidden variables" that determine the outcomes. This absence of hidden variables reinforces the non-deterministic nature of quantum mechanics.

The non-deterministic nature of quantum mechanics challenges classical intuitions about predictability and causality. It introduces an element of inherent randomness into the behavior of particles, making it impossible to precisely predict certain properties or outcomes in advance. Instead, quantum mechanics provides probabilistic predictions that describe the likelihood of various outcomes, and these probabilities are often confirmed through experimental observations.
This inherent non-determinism is a fundamental aspect of quantum mechanics and distinguishes it from classical physics, where the behavior of objects is traditionally governed by deterministic laws.

Although the information above is difficult to understand if there is no background in the field it does prove that at some level there are things that are not "deterministic" in the Universe.

 

[DarkAries]

Fate or free will?

Does all of us have a prewritten fate, even in just fragments, but we fulfil? Or there is no fate at all, and everyone do by their free will? If there is fate(the one I prefer) then we all was fated to join under Satan's flag and fight ahainst our enemy. All in the previous lifes, and every...

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Exactly what I was thinking
I think we got a pretty good conclusion at the end, but Im still curious what a more advanced Satanist, or even a High Priest/Priestess would say about it.

 

[Henu the Great]

Exactly what I was thinking
I think we got a pretty good conclusion at the end, but Im still curious what a more advanced Satanist, or even a High Priest/Priestess would say about it.

They would say the same with a more complex explanation.