Is it okay to create new dog breeds?

[MiniMe3388]

Race mixing among people is a thing that every SS wants to fight.
But what should we think about dogs? Many dog breeds were created by crossbreeding with different breeds. Is this okay or is it wrong?

 

[Yurei]

It's wrong. It's no different from race mixing.

 

[hailourtruegod]

I’ve read that German Sheperds are the closest to their wolf ancestors thus the “purest”. That in mind there might be a reason why the military and police force use them over other more aggressive dogs like pit bulls which had to be mixed to be made at first.

Mixing as with humans causes problems to the brain.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

This race mixing of dogs usually makes them sick and gives them physical disorders and weaknesses.

But there have also been pure breed dogs who have been bred in an irresponsible way. Sometimes with incest or with sick parents. So there are also many pure bred dogs with physical disorders and weaknesses.

Do not purposefully create mixed race dogs. The best thing would be to get a pure breed dog where you can see the parents and see how healthy they are. And make sure they do not have any disorders. Or rescue any dog that is healthy and give it a good life.

 

[Epiphany]

I’ve read that German Sheperds are the closest to their wolf ancestors thus the “purest”. That in mind there might be a reason why the military and police force use them over other more aggressive dogs like pit bulls which had to be mixed to be made at first.

Mixing as with humans causes problems to the brain.

I dislike dogs, but I have respect for german shepherds. They always seemed to be a noble and intelligent breed.

 

[The Alchemist7 [JG]]

Race mixing among people is a thing that every SS wants to fight.
But what should we think about dogs? Many dog breeds were created by crossbreeding with different breeds. Is this okay or is it wrong?

I don't know how much this applies to dogs but there are many mixed animals that are known to suffer for various health conditions because of race-mixing. In fact I recall once I had a discussion with someone who said about a specific mixed breed dog that is known to suffer from heart disease. He was saying that in most cases these dogs die young and cannot do much effort at all. Other mixed animals are known to not be able to reproduce, I think there was a breed between a horse and donkey in this situation but generally it seems most hybrid and mixed animals do suffer for various health issues.

 

[MiniMe3388]

Thank you all for your responses

 

[hailourtruegod]

I’ve read that German Sheperds are the closest to their wolf ancestors thus the “purest”. That in mind there might be a reason why the military and police force use them over other more aggressive dogs like pit bulls which had to be mixed to be made at first.

Mixing as with humans causes problems to the brain.

I dislike dogs, but I have respect for german shepherds. They always seemed to be a noble and intelligent breed.

They really are. They've been my favorite breed for a very long time even before SS.

 

[hailourtruegod]

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Race mixing among people is a thing that every SS wants to fight.
But what should we think about dogs? Many dog breeds were created by crossbreeding with different breeds. Is this okay or is it wrong?

I don't know how much this applies to dogs but there are many mixed animals that are known to suffer for various health conditions because of race-mixing. In fact I recall once I had a discussion with someone who said about a specific mixed breed dog that is known to suffer from heart disease. He was saying that in most cases these dogs die young and cannot do much effort at all. Other mixed animals are known to not be able to reproduce, I think there was a breed between a horse and donkey in this situation but generally it seems most hybrid and mixed animals do suffer for various health issues.

And let's not forget Ligers. Many of them can't breed and are suffering from the consequences of inbreeding because of how forced it is. All for the pleasure of so called animal lovers. But yet many of these same people will still deny the bad consequences of race mixing or at least have cognitive dissonance when it comes to it.

 

[NinRick]

Most dog breeds have specific health issues, some develop cancer easily, some have cardiovascular issues, some others have spinal isses, or issues with the bones nervous system, can’t breathe or constantly dislocate their joints.
Pubs, chihuahuas, dachshund, the list goes on and on. Apparently the further the dogs have went away from Wolfes genetically speaking the worse it gets.

Wolfdogs are very healthy dogs for example, and are probably the smartest dog breeds out there, those are a hybrid of wolves and dogs.

 

[Lightning_Puma]

Before I write my own opinion and whatnot, let me start by saying that I do not, I repeat, I do not like race mixers or race mixing. In fact, I absolutely hate it with a burning passion and anyone who thinks it's "okay" needs to either do deep cleaning or fuck off!!

But isn't it true that certain pure breed dogs have more health issues than race mixed ones?
I personally think the bully breed, pug breed, etc. (the dog who is born to suffer basically) should go extinct or be bred so their offspring can live better, more healthier lives.

My dog, (I believe a gift from Father Satan) is mixed, but she is the most healthiest and strong dog I've ever encountered. She has some mountain dog breed (Idk how it's called), a bit husky and German shepherd from her mother and her father was a stray, so Idk what he had). The only single issue she had when growing up was eye irritant that was fixed up with antibiotics after 2 days. After that, she's absolutely healthy!

My cat too, she's mixed up, but she's a calico cat. She's mostly outdoors, but lives indoors too. She comes and goes as she pleases. But she's healthier than say a munchkin.

Do I think animals should race mix? No, but certain breeds, if done right, turn out well.

 

[hailourtruegod]

Before I write my own opinion and whatnot, let me start by saying that I do not, I repeat, I do not like race mixers or race mixing. In fact, I absolutely hate it with a burning passion and anyone who thinks it's "okay" needs to either do deep cleaning or fuck off!!

But isn't it true that certain pure breed dogs have more health issues than race mixed ones?
I personally think the bully breed, pug breed, etc. (the dog who is born to suffer basically) should go extinct or be bred so their offspring can live better, more healthier lives.

My dog, (I believe a gift from Father Satan) is mixed, but she is the most healthiest and strong dog I've ever encountered. She has some mountain dog breed (Idk how it's called), a bit husky and German shepherd from her mother and her father was a stray, so Idk what he had). The only single issue she had when growing up was eye irritant that was fixed up with antibiotics after 2 days. After that, she's absolutely healthy!

My cat too, she's mixed up, but she's a calico cat. She's mostly outdoors, but lives indoors too. She comes and goes as she pleases. But she's healthier than say a munchkin.

Do I think animals should race mix? No, but certain breeds, if done right, turn out well.

I mean no disrespect but don't you think these anecdotes are on par with how a few to some mixed race people come out healthy or good looking? Like athletes and what not. They are just a small percentage of the whole which the majority, statistically, do not get lucky. It's the same with animals.

 

[Lightning_Puma]

Before I write my own opinion and whatnot, let me start by saying that I do not, I repeat, I do not like race mixers or race mixing. In fact, I absolutely hate it with a burning passion and anyone who thinks it's "okay" needs to either do deep cleaning or fuck off!!

But isn't it true that certain pure breed dogs have more health issues than race mixed ones?
I personally think the bully breed, pug breed, etc. (the dog who is born to suffer basically) should go extinct or be bred so their offspring can live better, more healthier lives.

My dog, (I believe a gift from Father Satan) is mixed, but she is the most healthiest and strong dog I've ever encountered. She has some mountain dog breed (Idk how it's called), a bit husky and German shepherd from her mother and her father was a stray, so Idk what he had). The only single issue she had when growing up was eye irritant that was fixed up with antibiotics after 2 days. After that, she's absolutely healthy!

My cat too, she's mixed up, but she's a calico cat. She's mostly outdoors, but lives indoors too. She comes and goes as she pleases. But she's healthier than say a munchkin.

Do I think animals should race mix? No, but certain breeds, if done right, turn out well.

I mean no disrespect but don't you think these anecdotes are on par with how a few to some mixed race people come out healthy or good looking? Like athletes and what not. They are just a small percentage of the whole which the majority, statistically, do not get lucky. It's the same with animals.

I didn't even think of that. I feel like a freaking dummy.
I'll stop commenting lol.

Thank you for making me see a different picture! No sarcasm included.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

But isn't it true that certain pure breed dogs have more health issues than race mixed ones?
I personally think the bully breed, pug breed, etc. (the dog who is born to suffer basically) should go extinct or be bred so their offspring can live better, more healthier lives.

"Pure breeds" are often inbred, or bred to highlight certain characteristics, at the expense of their health. Our mind imagines pure to mean healthy, but this is not actually true. These poor animals are actually exposed to strongly negative influences on their genetics, whereas mixed bred animals are usually not. That doesn't mean that mixed breeding is what caused this lack of problems, however.

 

[hailourtruegod]

I didn't even think of that. I feel like a freaking dummy.
I'll stop commenting lol.

Thank you for making me see a different picture! No sarcasm included.

There might of been others who were thinking the same as you and probably didn't know how to express it. You bringing up something and then someone explaining a different way to see it can always help others reading the replies so it's good that you brought that up.

 

[Lightning_Puma]

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But isn't it true that certain pure breed dogs have more health issues than race mixed ones?
I personally think the bully breed, pug breed, etc. (the dog who is born to suffer basically) should go extinct or be bred so their offspring can live better, more healthier lives.

"Pure breeds" are often inbred, or bred to highlight certain characteristics, at the expense of their health. Our mind imagines pure to mean healthy, but this is not actually true. These poor animals are actually exposed to strongly negative influences on their genetics, whereas mixed bred animals are usually not. That doesn't mean that mixed breeding is what caused this lack of problems, however.

Makes a lot of sense. Thank you brother!!

I didn't even think of that. I feel like a freaking dummy.
I'll stop commenting lol.

Thank you for making me see a different picture! No sarcasm included.

There might of been others who were thinking the same as you and probably didn't know how to express it. You bringing up something and then someone explaining a different way to see it can always help others reading the replies so it's good that you brought that up.

Thank you!! Also thank you for not belittling me when explaining such things. It's nice to know that other SS are nicer and kinder to each other than they were a couple years ago..

 

[MiniMe3388]

I personally think the bully breed, pug breed, etc. (the dog who is born to suffer basically) should go extinct or be bred so their offspring can live better, more healthier lives.

As for bully-type dogs, such breeds were created to fight with other animals. This is a terrible thing.

As for pugs, it is generally assumed that they originated from China and are an old breed of dog. In the past, they were mainly used as companions for the Chinese aristocracy. I found a source that claims their origins date back to 400 BC.
I began to assume that pugs were a pure breed of dog, but their appearance probably came from man's preference for a particular look and mixing with other breeds of dogs.

Pubs, chihuahuas, dachshund, the list goes on and on. Apparently the further the dogs have went away from Wolfes genetically speaking the worse it gets.

I used to think about owning a Chihuahua. They are one of the oldest dog breeds in America. The Toltecs bred dogs that were similar to the Chihuahua and they were considered sacred. The Mayans and Aztecs also owned them. Generally it is their appearance that has changed, because in the past they were a little larger than they are today. Finding the exact history of a particular breed of dog is difficult, and it is also likely that they may have been mixed with other breeds of dogs.

Wolfdogs are very healthy dogs for example, and are probably the smartest dog breeds out there, those are a hybrid of wolves and dogs.

Yes, I agree with this statement. If anyone is curious, pure dog breeds (wolf type) are: Siberian Husky, Alaskan malamute and Samoyed.

Other dog breeds that are pure breeds: Chow chow, Lhasa apso, Pekingese, Shar pei, Tibetan Terrier, Basenji, Akita and Shiba.

The Saluki dog breed is also one of the oldest dog breeds. They were originally bred in the Fertile Crescent. It is dated that they were found as far back as 6,000 years ago. Saluki were favored by pharaohs and members of the aristocracy and their images appeared in ancient art and reliefs. They were buried with their owners so they could accompany them to the afterlife.

 

[Lightning_Puma]

I personally think the bully breed, pug breed, etc. (the dog who is born to suffer basically) should go extinct or be bred so their offspring can live better, more healthier lives.

As for bully-type dogs, such breeds were created to fight with other animals. This is a terrible thing.

As for pugs, it is generally assumed that they originated from China and are an old breed of dog. In the past, they were mainly used as companions for the Chinese aristocracy. I found a source that claims their origins date back to 400 BC.
I began to assume that pugs were a pure breed of dog, but their appearance probably came from man's preference for a particular look and mixing with other breeds of dogs.

Pubs, chihuahuas, dachshund, the list goes on and on. Apparently the further the dogs have went away from Wolfes genetically speaking the worse it gets.

I used to think about owning a Chihuahua. They are one of the oldest dog breeds in America. The Toltecs bred dogs that were similar to the Chihuahua and they were considered sacred. The Mayans and Aztecs also owned them. Generally it is their appearance that has changed, because in the past they were a little larger than they are today. Finding the exact history of a particular breed of dog is difficult, and it is also likely that they may have been mixed with other breeds of dogs.

Wolfdogs are very healthy dogs for example, and are probably the smartest dog breeds out there, those are a hybrid of wolves and dogs.

Yes, I agree with this statement. If anyone is curious, pure dog breeds (wolf type) are: Siberian Husky, Alaskan malamute and Samoyed.

Other dog breeds that are pure breeds: Chow chow, Lhasa apso, Pekingese, Shar pei, Tibetan Terrier, Basenji, Akita and Shiba.

The Saluki dog breed is also one of the oldest dog breeds. They were originally bred in the Fertile Crescent. It is dated that they were found as far back as 6,000 years ago. Saluki were favored by pharaohs and members of the aristocracy and their images appeared in ancient art and reliefs. They were buried with their owners so they could accompany them to the afterlife.

Very interesting!!

What about doberman or golden retrievers? Is it safe to adopt them and is it wise to go for pure breed dogs and avoid animal shelters?

I have wahted to adopt a cat and a dog from a shelter after my current pets pass on from old age, but now I'm wondering if this is a good idea, considering shelter dogs, most of them at least, are mixed dog breeds, mutts, as we call them.

 

[MiniMe3388]

I personally think the bully breed, pug breed, etc. (the dog who is born to suffer basically) should go extinct or be bred so their offspring can live better, more healthier lives.

As for bully-type dogs, such breeds were created to fight with other animals. This is a terrible thing.

As for pugs, it is generally assumed that they originated from China and are an old breed of dog. In the past, they were mainly used as companions for the Chinese aristocracy. I found a source that claims their origins date back to 400 BC.
I began to assume that pugs were a pure breed of dog, but their appearance probably came from man's preference for a particular look and mixing with other breeds of dogs.

Pubs, chihuahuas, dachshund, the list goes on and on. Apparently the further the dogs have went away from Wolfes genetically speaking the worse it gets.

I used to think about owning a Chihuahua. They are one of the oldest dog breeds in America. The Toltecs bred dogs that were similar to the Chihuahua and they were considered sacred. The Mayans and Aztecs also owned them. Generally it is their appearance that has changed, because in the past they were a little larger than they are today. Finding the exact history of a particular breed of dog is difficult, and it is also likely that they may have been mixed with other breeds of dogs.

Wolfdogs are very healthy dogs for example, and are probably the smartest dog breeds out there, those are a hybrid of wolves and dogs.

Yes, I agree with this statement. If anyone is curious, pure dog breeds (wolf type) are: Siberian Husky, Alaskan malamute and Samoyed.

Other dog breeds that are pure breeds: Chow chow, Lhasa apso, Pekingese, Shar pei, Tibetan Terrier, Basenji, Akita and Shiba.

The Saluki dog breed is also one of the oldest dog breeds. They were originally bred in the Fertile Crescent. It is dated that they were found as far back as 6,000 years ago. Saluki were favored by pharaohs and members of the aristocracy and their images appeared in ancient art and reliefs. They were buried with their owners so they could accompany them to the afterlife.

Very interesting!!

What about doberman or golden retrievers? Is it safe to adopt them and is it wise to go for pure breed dogs and avoid animal shelters?

I have wahted to adopt a cat and a dog from a shelter after my current pets pass on from old age, but now I'm wondering if this is a good idea, considering shelter dogs, most of them at least, are mixed dog breeds, mutts, as we call them.

It's not a bad thing that you would like to adopt a dog from a shelter and give it a new home.

A golden retriever is a good dog for someone who has never had a dog. They learn quickly and are very friendly.
As for Dobermans, it's not a good idea for an inexperienced person to own such a breed. Dobermans are proud, intelligent and have a strong character. The guardian of such a dog must be confident, consistent, mentally strong and calm.

If you would ever think about buying a dog then you need to check if the kennel the dogs are from is not a fake. Sometimes they sell dogs that are mixes and only when the dog grows you will notice that its appearance may be different from a pure breed.

 

[Lightning_Puma]

As for bully-type dogs, such breeds were created to fight with other animals. This is a terrible thing.

As for pugs, it is generally assumed that they originated from China and are an old breed of dog. In the past, they were mainly used as companions for the Chinese aristocracy. I found a source that claims their origins date back to 400 BC.
I began to assume that pugs were a pure breed of dog, but their appearance probably came from man's preference for a particular look and mixing with other breeds of dogs.



I used to think about owning a Chihuahua. They are one of the oldest dog breeds in America. The Toltecs bred dogs that were similar to the Chihuahua and they were considered sacred. The Mayans and Aztecs also owned them. Generally it is their appearance that has changed, because in the past they were a little larger than they are today. Finding the exact history of a particular breed of dog is difficult, and it is also likely that they may have been mixed with other breeds of dogs.



Yes, I agree with this statement. If anyone is curious, pure dog breeds (wolf type) are: Siberian Husky, Alaskan malamute and Samoyed.

Other dog breeds that are pure breeds: Chow chow, Lhasa apso, Pekingese, Shar pei, Tibetan Terrier, Basenji, Akita and Shiba.

The Saluki dog breed is also one of the oldest dog breeds. They were originally bred in the Fertile Crescent. It is dated that they were found as far back as 6,000 years ago. Saluki were favored by pharaohs and members of the aristocracy and their images appeared in ancient art and reliefs. They were buried with their owners so they could accompany them to the afterlife.

Very interesting!!

What about doberman or golden retrievers? Is it safe to adopt them and is it wise to go for pure breed dogs and avoid animal shelters?

I have wahted to adopt a cat and a dog from a shelter after my current pets pass on from old age, but now I'm wondering if this is a good idea, considering shelter dogs, most of them at least, are mixed dog breeds, mutts, as we call them.

It's not a bad thing that you would like to adopt a dog from a shelter and give it a new home.

A golden retriever is a good dog for someone who has never had a dog. They learn quickly and are very friendly.
As for Dobermans, it's not a good idea for an inexperienced person to own such a breed. Dobermans are proud, intelligent and have a strong character. The guardian of such a dog must be confident, consistent, mentally strong and calm.

If you would ever think about buying a dog then you need to check if the kennel the dogs are from is not a fake. Sometimes they sell dogs that are mixes and only when the dog grows you will notice that its appearance may be different from a pure breed.

Thank you!!

So getting dogs from shelters is fine, despite them being mixed, just need to avoid letting them breed if they're not spayed.

Speaking of spaying, isn't it harmful to the animals soul to be castrated? I know castration helps control the populations, but I'm wondering on the spiritual level, soul level even.

 

[MiniMe3388]

Very interesting!!

What about doberman or golden retrievers? Is it safe to adopt them and is it wise to go for pure breed dogs and avoid animal shelters?

I have wahted to adopt a cat and a dog from a shelter after my current pets pass on from old age, but now I'm wondering if this is a good idea, considering shelter dogs, most of them at least, are mixed dog breeds, mutts, as we call them.

It's not a bad thing that you would like to adopt a dog from a shelter and give it a new home.

A golden retriever is a good dog for someone who has never had a dog. They learn quickly and are very friendly.
As for Dobermans, it's not a good idea for an inexperienced person to own such a breed. Dobermans are proud, intelligent and have a strong character. The guardian of such a dog must be confident, consistent, mentally strong and calm.

If you would ever think about buying a dog then you need to check if the kennel the dogs are from is not a fake. Sometimes they sell dogs that are mixes and only when the dog grows you will notice that its appearance may be different from a pure breed.

Thank you!!

So getting dogs from shelters is fine, despite them being mixed, just need to avoid letting them breed if they're not spayed.

Speaking of spaying, isn't it harmful to the animals soul to be castrated? I know castration helps control the populations, but I'm wondering on the spiritual level, soul level even.

Here you have a discussion about it:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=66792

 

[Lightning_Puma]

It's not a bad thing that you would like to adopt a dog from a shelter and give it a new home.

A golden retriever is a good dog for someone who has never had a dog. They learn quickly and are very friendly.
As for Dobermans, it's not a good idea for an inexperienced person to own such a breed. Dobermans are proud, intelligent and have a strong character. The guardian of such a dog must be confident, consistent, mentally strong and calm.

If you would ever think about buying a dog then you need to check if the kennel the dogs are from is not a fake. Sometimes they sell dogs that are mixes and only when the dog grows you will notice that its appearance may be different from a pure breed.

Thank you!!

So getting dogs from shelters is fine, despite them being mixed, just need to avoid letting them breed if they're not spayed.

Speaking of spaying, isn't it harmful to the animals soul to be castrated? I know castration helps control the populations, but I'm wondering on the spiritual level, soul level even.

Here you have a discussion about it:
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=66792

Thank you!