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newestwarrior666

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I've already learned so much from reading the powerful and life changing information shared on these forums, and I could likely write an entire post on the positivity and security I feel reading the writings that I can feel to be truth. Being new and inexperienced though, I do have a specific question as I continue to empower my soul. I'd like to start performing a working to target and remove certain emotional hangups that lead to self doubt as soon as possible to avoid them holding me back as I move forward, but should I wait until I finish the suggested 40 day empowerment program before starting this working? My plan at the moment is to start working on opening my individual chakras after the empowerment program, but I see myself occupied with practicing on working with energy and opening my chakras for a couple months perhaps. Any guidance about how soon I can begin a working involving vibrating a mantra would be appreciated.
 
Do the Opening the Chakras in the order that is described, and following all directions.



After this, practice whatever working you feel that you should do. If you feel that you need to do a certain working to help yourself, this is true and you know what improvement is needed. It is good for you to try to do these workings to help yourself, and the gods will assist you. The only way to grow a skill is by practicing, and the best way to practice is doing something beneficial.
 
Do the Opening the Chakras in the order that is described, and following all directions.



After this, practice whatever working you feel that you should do. If you feel that you need to do a certain working to help yourself, this is true and you know what improvement is needed. It is good for you to try to do these workings to help yourself, and the gods will assist you. The only way to grow a skill is by practicing, and the best way to practice is doing something beneficial.
Another user told me you should wait until at least 2-3 years of cleaning your soul before doing any freeing the soul workings? Does this apply here? And if so, why does it not apply to other types of workings?
 
Another user told me you should wait until at least 2-3 years of cleaning your soul before doing any freeing the soul workings? Does this apply here? And if so, why does it not apply to other types of workings?
I think that is completely wrong. Besides, anything that is working to heal you and remove a problem is a necessary part of cleaning the soul.
 
I think that is completely wrong. Besides, anything that is working to heal you and remove a problem is a necessary part of cleaning the soul.
So, do you think I should continue? Man I felt so good. I am currently in a Jupiter Transit so my luck went x100 in that area.

It was working perfectly and then I stopped abruptly because I got a bit worried I was being foolish/arrogant based on their advice and that I may inadvertently make a terrible mistake (of which, stopping the working actually caused, because I got a massive telepathic attack and auditory hallucinations from the enemy pretending to be my GD immediately afterwards).

Tbh, the individual in question I am starting to suspect is possibly a high-level infiltrator. Every time I see them comment they are being discouraging and negative, as well as occasionally spreading contradictory bits of information, albeit minor one's. They are usually tiny contradictions, but damaging nonetheless. Similar to how "they" operate in general with regards to corrupting occult knowledge. Possibly, he is just a bastard, though. They are chronically online on the forums as well, similar to a payed shill... I'll keep my eye on them for now because they are also a "high-ish" ranking member, so I don't want to hurl out unfounded accusations here where I may just be biased towards this one particular negative incident, which also possibly had nothing to do with them... That being said, I am rarely wrong about these things.
 
I think you are just misinterpreting and misunderstanding things in general, and you assumed a meaning that was not really meant.

Do your working. You were doing a nice working to help yourself, you should not have stopped.
I just thought maybe I was playing with fire when I shouldn't be.

And I had a bookmark showing ideal planetary times for specific types of workings, but I can't find it now. Do you have a link to something similar? Or can suggest the nearest time to do a freeing the soul working related to my problem?
 
Another user told me you should wait until at least 2-3 years of cleaning your soul before doing any freeing the soul workings? Does this apply here? And if so, why does it not apply to other types of workings?
It's not about 'cleansing' per se, it's about having the ability to bear something like MUNKA or even Ansuz or Uruz in freeing the soul, because it can be extreme energy and releases things in the Chakras that you need to be already powerful enough to be able to cleanse off. The longer the freeing spell goes on, the more this accumulates.

Therefore, it pays to be careful with it and conscious of it. If something feels too heavy to handle, lower the repetitions or stop.
I used to recommend MUNKA while using it, but after HP. Cobra made the quoted topic below, as I went through the archives I observed over the years some people have used it 'too much, too soon'.

It can also create psychological and other kinds of backlash, or at least 'checkpoints', that requires the ability to navigate without sinking. Obviously, clean Chakras are ideal here, but so is a degree of psychological maturity. If your negative karma involves violence, being too brazen can be disastrous.

There cannot be a time estimate, I only gave one for when I personally was ready. It depends on how powerful someone is in the first place (most people beginning here don't have that much), commits to doing everything daily, how much they successfully opened or cleansed Chakras or other blockages, how much they have removed jewish scum from their soul with the FRTR, used AoP, or whatever else. If you don't do most of these daily sans fail, MUNKA at higher reps may even be dangerous, or intersect with undesirable crap from the enemy, etc.

In line with the checkpoints, it also depends how much they are willing or able in real life to go beyond the limitations of their negative karma. If the MUNKA working wipes a person out in exhaustion and puts them in a state of fear [the negative energy can be really heavy and gross feeling at the extreme end], they may not be able to conquer something in the physical world. Especially if they don't know how to use VISUDDHI or AUM to cleanse and don't know how to raise energies.

Some new people may be able to handle 1 repetition of it per day each Chakra, others 3, but IMO, 9 is too much for a beginner, and beginners should not go beyond 40 days with this. That's the only estimate I can give. Perhaps a few beginners can handle the full 9, but that seems to be the hallmark of a more powerful soul or 'not too much bad' in their karma to begin with.

Yoga is also really important here as it works in synchronicity with MUNKA to shed negative karma and protect from negative transits. If you don't do the yoga routine daily, you are watering the potential down. Expertise with VISUDDHI and Returning Curses 1 & 2 is also extremely helpful, for obvious reasons.

Past/present life regression if one is capable is also a good tool to use with MUNKA in pinpointing where problems started and resolving emotions. But this is an intermediate-advanced ability, beginners [especially kids] tend to go astray with this for a multitude of reasons. The truth is that to diagnose problems accurately, to view one's own role in them and to solve them requires some maturity of the mind. These things can bring up really horrible emotions and traumas, and could throw brittle people off the deep rend.

MUNKA should also be begun after or supplemented with constructive workings to enhance the power of the soul, like empowering one's Solar Chakra with the Sun Square, meditating on the Pineal Gland, and Yoga.

Also, the other workings thing isn't true. Any working with Saturn or something of a similar nature like Nauthiz can unleash pretty nasty karma. It helps to do MUNKA before these are attempted.

That's normal, but this means you pushed things too much, more than you should have.

You have pushed this with removal, and pushed into insensibility. Experiences like this can be signs you need to have a little bit more patience or cut back. This is not a game to try to take it all out, thinking that will solve everything "faster" and with the rest of the arrogant garbage in mind that it will simply "quickly" come out.

Quickly and other demands here stem from the lower mind [desire] and therefore this can act in contrast with the rules of the universe on these subjects, causing a clash from the negativity and harm that comes out.

You need to do cleaning from this, learn how to cut back, and take this in measurements. If the karma is taken out very abruptly, there can be negative consequences. Listen to my advice carefully here.

Removal needs to happen, slowly, gradually, and with cycles of empowering the soul and having the strength to do it.

Backlash has to be within manageable territory, and if starts going out from this, then reduction of repetitions and cleaning must happen immediately.


There is a constant child absent mindedness in the current "Spiritual Satanist" approach, because many due to lack of experience might no clue what they are doing, and they have no clue what they are experiencing in the form of backfires.

That should try to bridge that gap here.

If one gets this type of very violent reaction, it means that they are not doing this properly, and despite of saying in a positive way, they are doing a bigger surgery than what one can lift. Therefore, one has to lower intensity, and expand the timeline.

As "very violent" we can define a reaction that borderline overtakes your control of the situation.

Most people are false desire oriented and they want "to be done" with everything "quickly", in the same way one goes to the doctor and they want a quick removal instead of a 5 year plan to instate perfect health. One can't get a perfect health in 24 hours or one week. These things generally can have bad consequences, because the laws of the universe and laws of healing stand in the way.

In the same way one can do a surgery on themselves but has no idea how to deal with the bloodletting this might do, because of recklessness or stupidity, one might also do numerous things that make them feel "advanced" yet backfire in more that one ways, due to the nature of misplaced wants on top of more misplaced wants.

The above can be rectified by this: Have modesty, a longterm plan, and work dilligently, instead of recklessly. When you are given signs this needs more fortification, you can push insofar you understand you can control the outcome.

With the above clarified, you can know that what has occurred won't really harm you, but that it's a pushback from the working and that you need to get more powerful, clean, and approach things with a more modest and respectable attitude in regards to limitations.

-High Priest Hooded Cobra 666
 
I think Sinbad was referring to me as the other member, and that's very similar to what I meant.

We also know that in older times, a lot of things that a beginner can easily access now, was though after years of beginner practices and knowledge in ancient schools.

Each path of the 8 fold path has more advanced practices that only after years of advancement and prior steps can be performed correctly and experienced, have the benefits from them.

Also keeping in mind that a lot of things will still have negative effects as they dig up blockages and negative energy/karma, even if one start practicing them on time. One will experience this anyways as there is no way around pushing the limits/trying out new things when one wants to advance. I personally felt really bad while doing KY for the first month, than now I almost get happy while doing it.
No pain, no gain.


For Sinbad: It will come naturally the realization of what you should do and what not. One may deep dive into things that they shouldn't as a beginner, but later you'll have a clearer picture.

For example if my sacral chakra does not want to work properly, and I'm aware that I had nasty sexual connections, and cleaning, empowering doesn't help, one may as well do a detaching working even if they aren't advanced (but not an absolute beginner). Detachment might also be the less advanced version of freeing workings.
 
It's not about 'cleansing' per se, it's about having the ability to bear something like MUNKA or even Ansuz or Uruz in freeing the soul, because it can be extreme energy and releases things in the Chakras that you need to be already powerful enough to be able to cleanse off. The longer the freeing spell goes on, the more this accumulates.

Therefore, it pays to be careful with it and conscious of it. If something feels too heavy to handle, lower the repetitions or stop.
I used to recommend MUNKA while using it, but after HP. Cobra made the quoted topic below, as I went through the archives I observed over the years some people have used it 'too much, too soon'.

It can also create psychological and other kinds of backlash, or at least 'checkpoints', that requires the ability to navigate without sinking. Obviously, clean Chakras are ideal here, but so is a degree of psychological maturity. If your negative karma involves violence, being too brazen can be disastrous.

There cannot be a time estimate, I only gave one for when I personally was ready. It depends on how powerful someone is in the first place (most people beginning here don't have that much), commits to doing everything daily, how much they successfully opened or cleansed Chakras or other blockages, how much they have removed jewish scum from their soul with the FRTR, used AoP, or whatever else. If you don't do most of these daily sans fail, MUNKA at higher reps may even be dangerous, or intersect with undesirable crap from the enemy, etc.

In line with the checkpoints, it also depends how much they are willing or able in real life to go beyond the limitations of their negative karma. If the MUNKA working wipes a person out in exhaustion and puts them in a state of fear [the negative energy can be really heavy and gross feeling at the extreme end], they may not be able to conquer something in the physical world. Especially if they don't know how to use VISUDDHI or AUM to cleanse and don't know how to raise energies.

Some new people may be able to handle 1 repetition of it per day each Chakra, others 3, but IMO, 9 is too much for a beginner, and beginners should not go beyond 40 days with this. That's the only estimate I can give. Perhaps a few beginners can handle the full 9, but that seems to be the hallmark of a more powerful soul or 'not too much bad' in their karma to begin with.

Yoga is also really important here as it works in synchronicity with MUNKA to shed negative karma and protect from negative transits. If you don't do the yoga routine daily, you are watering the potential down. Expertise with VISUDDHI and Returning Curses 1 & 2 is also extremely helpful, for obvious reasons.

Past/present life regression if one is capable is also a good tool to use with MUNKA in pinpointing where problems started and resolving emotions. But this is an intermediate-advanced ability, beginners [especially kids] tend to go astray with this for a multitude of reasons. The truth is that to diagnose problems accurately, to view one's own role in them and to solve them requires some maturity of the mind. These things can bring up really horrible emotions and traumas, and could throw brittle people off the deep rend.

MUNKA should also be begun after or supplemented with constructive workings to enhance the power of the soul, like empowering one's Solar Chakra with the Sun Square, meditating on the Pineal Gland, and Yoga.

Also, the other workings thing isn't true. Any working with Saturn or something of a similar nature like Nauthiz can unleash pretty nasty karma. It helps to do MUNKA before these are attempted.
I see, thank you for bringing this to my awareness. I don't want to get ahead of myself, and I know people on the forums are dissuaded from it constantly, but I really think I can start some of these higher meditations already. But again, I don't want to burn myself playing with something I don't understand due to ignorance.

Based on the following information, what would you advise me to do?:

- I was able to handle the energy quite easily and my capacity/tolerance also seems to be quite high. What happened to the people who used it 'too soon'?
- I didn't experience any backlash or psychological issues. I have very little serious negative karma except money issues and probably a past life "we'll be together forever" type of relationship. And that I am mistrustful/suspicious of people (and paradoxically, too trusting of people by being overly honest/gullible/talkative when I'm tricked into feeling comfortable). I'm scared I'm going to expose myself to the wrong people, especially because I am near "the enemy" constantly in my work-place.
- It's mostly a few small things I'm trying to optimise for. Like when I'm stressed I immediately start eating bullshit for days/weeks/months and wasting too much money on takeaways, lol, even when my bank account is close to zero.
- I don't have any violence related karma as far as I can tell.
- I think my understanding of the "self" is quite strong, and tbh I barely had any psychological issues to begin with. And I matured quite early in life. My few inhibitions I've mostly alleviated through knowledge of psychology as well, because that was a prior obsession of mine before Spiritual Satanism. My personality on the forums is a bit different tho. I just vomit all my thoughts out instead of being reserved and quiet as I usually am because I am here to learn as much as possible so idc if I look stupid. Sorry if I'm talking too much.

- 1 repetition, do you mean one full cycle of 108? I did 108's straight away and it felt fine lol. No issues. It just felt like the same when you satisfy a coffee craving and the feeling of being irritable dissapears. I liked that feeling. I felt the working being successful almost immediately. And tbh, even now, although I stopped the working it's still in effect. I just lost all desire for junk food/energy drinks. When I look at them I feel nothing, except Redbull that shit is too good.
- I can actually re-simulate the taste in my mind and the craving is satisified that way in the few times I was falling to weakness. I just have to wait until I am stressed again to see what will happen for real tho. That's when my resolve will be tested. I don't know if I trust the feeling of how easy this was.
- My dopamine discipline is quite good. For 2 years my only dopamine is music, reading books, chess, and on the weekend anime/movies. Also work/business/writing, but that is also the cause of my stress, which has made me a little more aggressive in the work place. I quit all the bullshit like gaming and other nonsense. I also noticed my brain is very "sticky" in that I acquire (but also lose) habits very quickly. I am an 'all-or-nothing' kinda guy. Maybe it's just that and the success of the working has nothing to do with the magick itself.

- But man I hate yoga. I think I am doing it wrong, I feel very little from it in comparison to Foundation Meditation, which is way more effective for me. And I am physically lazy. Only when I am obsessed with gym can I maintain a good physique. Or I just stop caring. I can't be bothered at all. Maybe this is a sign my minor chakras are blocked or something. Oddly enough tho, I have very good athletic ability. What can I do to eradicate this weakness in terms of workings? I think this could be related to a serious negative karma now that I think about it.
- I struggle to focus on my body, breathe on time, maintain the number of breaths, and visualise energy all at the same time. With foundation I can just be a sniper rifle and focus on one thing effectively instead of dispersing myself. Am I even supposed to do all this or is it silly to do at this stage?
 
These were messages that I needed to read as soon as possible, and I'm glad that I did before proceeding recklessly. The more that I read that helps me understand that this journey can't be fast-tracked the better. It makes sense that trying to clean the soul will ultimately involve confronting and releasing some negative energy that demands the strength to deal with.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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