Hitlers strategies

[EasternFireLion666]

I just need some opinions.

Many people say why didn t Hitler focus on the UK? He would have won the war the moment he captured the UK. I for one understand perfectly the strategic need to attac the ussr before they attacked, but for this did the germans mobilise any troops from the vest? If not couldn t both offensives continue at the same time?

Another thing that some people say is the invasion of normandy. There were two nazi generals there who would have wished to mobilize two tank divisions but they needed hitler s approval for it. The story is that hitler was sleeping and therefore couldn t give any troop movement approvals.

Idk if this troop movement approval thing was true it was kind of wrong because hitler was a great politician but the strategists were the military officers.

Opinions?

 

[JoS Forum Contributions]

Stalin was waiting for the Germany military to invade the UK and was going to move first when this happened. The reason Stalin was waiting is because the German military would be stuck fighting a brutal and exhausting war in the UK. At this time England was defeated they lost their entire army in France and the rest came back with nothing but the shirts on their back. The Soviet Union was the major threat with over twenty million troops, thousands of heavy tanks, thousand of planes and heavy guns waiting to attack. They need all the man power they could get to knock the Soviet military out as fast as possible to survive and save Europe. It was because of this the Germans and their allies where able to sweep thought much of the Soviet Unions important regions and over run millions of Soviet troops. This would have cost Stalin the war if not for the Jews running America keeping him going along with Junkers like Von Paulus sabotaging Hitler's orders and costing them Stalingrad which cost them the war. If Hitler's orders for Stalingrad had of been followed they would have won and the Soviet Union would have been defeated in several weeks. Hitler's plan for the Soviet war was well thought out and based on a perfect understanding that would have worked if not sabotaged on the ground.

Hitler was not sleeping when Normandy happened. He had moved his main forces further up the coast because all thinking was that was the part of the coast the Allies would invade with their total forces as its the most important and closet to major networks and if they took that Germany would very quickly lose the war. Normandy was thought of as a possible distraction off this. They couldn't take the risk it was not. Keep in mind a handful of German divisions held the entire allied army in check in Normandy for months while the Germans prepared a counter offensive. Also keep in mind Stalin launched a major offensive at the same time to draw important German troops in battle in the east.

 

[EasternFireLion666]

Stalin was waiting for the Germany military to invade the UK and was going to move first when this happened. The reason Stalin was waiting is because the German military would be stuck fighting a brutal and exhausting war in the UK. At this time England was defeated they lost their entire army in France and the rest came back with nothing but the shirts on their back. The Soviet Union was the major threat with over twenty million troops, thousands of heavy tanks, thousand of planes and heavy guns waiting to attack. They need all the man power they could get to knock the Soviet military out as fast as possible to survive and save Europe. It was because of this the Germans and their allies where able to sweep thought much of the Soviet Unions important regions and over run millions of Soviet troops. This would have cost Stalin the war if not for the Jews running America keeping him going along with Junkers like Von Paulus sabotaging Hitler's orders and costing them Stalingrad which cost them the war. If Hitler's orders for Stalingrad had of been followed they would have won and the Soviet Union would have been defeated in several weeks. Hitler's plan for the Soviet war was well thought out and based on a perfect understanding that would have worked if not sabotaged on the ground.

Hitler was not sleeping when Normandy happened. He had moved his main forces further up the coast because all thinking was that was the part of the coast the Allies would invade with their total forces as its the most important and closet to major networks and if they took that Germany would very quickly lose the war. Normandy was thought of as a possible distraction off this. They couldn't take the risk it was not. Keep in mind a handful of German divisions held the entire allied army in check in Normandy for months while the Germans prepared a counter offensive. Also keep in mind Stalin launched a major offensive at the same time to draw important German troops in battle in the east.

Thanks for explaining Hp!

 

[Larissa666]

I have something to say, but first of all, I must admit that I am ignorant where comes to war and such things.

But I have an opinion on this.

I think that Hitler should have avoided dragging the US into the wars by any means necessary.

But it was contrary, when he learned that Japan attacked the USA, he applauded the Japan on their “heroic” act.

If it was me, I would declare war on Japan myself. To me, attacking the USA was the most stupid thing in the entire war. USA was hesitant to enter the war whole time, they saw no strong reason to get into war. Why give them such a strong reason to attack you?

Maybe there is something I am missing? Please, for you who know this, explain this to me. I really want to know.

When I go to search on the Internet, I find the bullshit answers such as “Hitler was a maniac, he wanted to conquer the world...etc”... Typical, for this brainwashed world.

 

[JoS Forum Contributions]

I already wrote about this in the article Stalins war and Hitler Man Of Peace. Germany was being constantly attacked and Germans killed by the American military before Hitler declared anything. Hitler responded to numerous acts of war against Germany as America had already declared war on Germany the government just down played it in public.

 

[curio]

I have something to say, but first of all, I must admit that I am ignorant where comes to war and such things.

But I have an opinion on this.

I think that Hitler should have avoided dragging the US into the wars by any means necessary.

But it was contrary, when he learned that Japan attacked the USA, he applauded the Japan on their “heroic” act.

If it was me, I would declare war on Japan myself. To me, attacking the USA was the most stupid thing in the entire war. USA was hesitant to enter the war whole time, they saw no strong reason to get into war. Why give them such a strong reason to attack you?

Maybe there is something I am missing? Please, for you who know this, explain this to me. I really want to know.

When I go to search on the Internet, I find the bullshit answers such as “Hitler was a maniac, he wanted to conquer the world...etc”... Typical, for this brainwashed world.

Japan and the US had waged an economic war for years leading up to the attack on Pearl Harbor. The US disapproved of Jap warmongering in east Asia and, along with FDR on a personal basis relating to his investments, had concerns over the safety of the European colonies in Asia, which were very valuable to the economy. The Japs tried to negotiate with the US and come to a compromise but the staffers were having none of it. When we finally placed an embargo on Oil exports to Japan, that was the straw that broke the camel's back and enticed the Japs into throwing their infamous sucker punch(which they had been planning for quite some time leading up to the event - and on a side note, there was never a declaration of war leading up to the invasion; only a message that negotiations had failed). Japan, both then and now, is heavily dependent on imports to fuel their modernized civilization, and doubly so back when they were waging war in continental Asia and the nearby waters. One could say that the resounding message throughout the negotiations was this: "Stay on your island and be good, or run out of steam and collapse".

The big shots in Japan, much like the Germans, knew that they would not survive a prolonged war, especially if the US was involved. Admiral Yamamoto, commander of the IJN and orchestrator of the attack on Pearl Harbor himself admitted that he had no confidence in winning the war if it lasted beyond six months to a year.

The American people were war-weary and isolationist at the time, yes. But the suits wanted to create a justification for the average American citizen to enter the war in the west. The situation in the Pacific was the opportunity to create that justification. The motive behind Pearl Harbor for the Japs could be thought to be that of Shock & Awe, to severely and immediately demoralize their enemies and destroy their will to fight. This could be one reason why they targeted the battleships(which were a symbol of might & power at the time) and made the strategic error of neglecting the nearby Oil tanks, drydocks and other strategically important infrastructure. They severely underestimated the strength, determination and sense of justice of the American spirit. But I digress.

As far as the war in the west goes, the US was a part of it in all but the official sense. Neutral US vessels were made to serve as informants on German positions for the British, escort British transports, went on joint u-boat hunts with the RAF/RN and the US and Germany even shared a few skirmishes leading up to the events of Pearl Harbor. But Germany knew better than to take the bait and make it official.

That's where Germany's alliance with the east comes in. The utility of allying with a nation that's on the opposite side of the world as yours with no friendly nations in between and no way to support or cover each other, seems dubious at best. Until you consider the geopolitical aspect; that the alliance was meant to be more of a deterrent to the US and the Soviets than a proper mutual military backing. Ironically, the fact that the alliance with Japan would drag Germany into a war with the US if the US and Japan went to war may have backfired on this very purpose.

Once the war in the pacific theater officially kicked off and Germany's word regarding the alliance came into question, though the agreement may have outlived its usefulness by this point and the US entering the war in the west would spell doom for Germany, the motive here could have been in part to try to keep an honorable image of Nazi Germany, both for her contemporaries and for future generations. And things were starting to take a downturn for Germany by this point, so the mentality here could be along he lines of "Well, everything's already fucked, you can't fuck it anymore, might as well go along with it" and not to delay the inevitable.

That and Hitler was a bit of a weeaboo.

Hope that helps.

 

[curio]

Another thought is that it makes sense to declare war on the US along with Japan because if the US and Soviets could channel all of their might and power into one target at a time, then it would wipe them out considerably faster. By drawing your enemy out along multiple, wider fronts, you wear him thin and dilute his efforts. So, in this sense, though it seems counter-intuitive at first, declaring war could be thought of as buying more time for the Axis.

Just a thought.