Heaven and inferno of Al Jilwah? for Hphc

[lodoshurricane]

Hello

I'm asking this question to the Hooded Cobra because it's a question someone in authority should answer.

We criticize the eternal hell and reward-punishment system in Jewish beliefs at every opportunity. Or we also criticize the Jewish gods, the elohas, who threaten people with pain. Frankly, I don't want to compare too much, but I think you need to explain some verses in the Al Jilwah book.

1- And none has a right to interfere with my management of affairs. Those who oppose me I afflict with disease. (Chapter 2/Al Jilwah)

If you reject My laws and spurn My rules, so that you do not observe all My commandments and you break My covenant, I in turn will do this to you: I will wreak misery upon you—consumption and fever,* which cause the eyes to pine and the body to languish; you shall sow your seed to no purpose, for your enemies shall eat it. (Torah/Leviticus 26/14-15)

I will bring a sword against you to wreak vengeance for the covenant; and if you withdraw into your cities, I will send pestilence among you, and you shall be delivered into enemy hands. (Torah/Leviticus 26/25)

2-I punish in another world all who do contrary to my will.(Chapter 3/Al Jilwah)

Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. (The Bible/Revelations 20/15)

God will say, “Enter the Fire along with the ˹evil˺ groups of jinn and humans that preceded you.” Whenever a group enters Hell, it will curse the preceding one until they are all gathered inside.(Quran 7/38)


3-But those who keep my secrets shall receive the fulfillment of my promises. Those who suffer for my sake I will surely reward in one of the worlds. (Chapter 4/Al Jilwah)

Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom." Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.” (The Bible/Luke 23/43)

As for those who believe and do good, We will admit them into Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. There they will have pure spouses, and We will place them under a vast shade. (Quran 4/57)


I have listed these three items so that you can compare them to heaven, hell and suffering with diseases. I'm sorry if you're inconvenienced, but this was necessary to clarify matters.

Now I will come to the questions part, Mr. Cobra. Why this reward and punishment system? Doesn't the devil just want us to evolve and become gods? If that's the case, why does he promise us rewards or pain in other worlds?

Also, in the book El Jilwah, Satan says that there is no god but himself. In yet another verse, the devil says that other books were changed "despite" being written by prophets and apostles. He also tells us to take only the part that belongs to him. What does all this mean, Mr. Cobra? Weren't prophets and apostles actually evil? Did these books actually belong to the devil? If you're breaking something by changing it, doesn't that mean it's not broken in its old and original state?

All of the books of those who are without are altered by them; and they have declined from them, "although" they were written by the prophets and the apostles. (Chapter 1/ Al Jilwah)

The books of Jews, Christians and Muslims, as of those who are without, accept in a sense, i.e., so far as they agree with and conform to my statutes. Whatsoever is contrary to these, they have altered; do not accept it. (Chapter 4/ Al Jilwah)

Also, Mr.Hooded Cobra, even if you find my message "dangerous" and won't approve, please send a reply to my e-mail address. Because your answer is very important to me. I want to settle this matter. ([email protected])

Thanks

 

[darkmonkey666]

I can actually answer this. It's not Satan and the Gods going around punishing and judging people or any of this. To be honest I honestly think they do not bother even with the souls of most xtians Muslims or Jews etc only in extreme cases would they do that. This would be a monumental time consumer and waste of time at that to monitor and punish or reward everyone.

These concepts still remain the same though. As Satan and his Demons follow the laws of nature and the universe itself. Going against this automatically has consequences unless one like the Jews and higher level enemy artificially shields themselves from this somehow (which they do or try to do) going against these laws brings disease and sickness short life span. After death since those who go against nature do not evolve they end up in the lower astral this can be as horrible of a place as the xtian hell or worse this isn't the Gods doing this though. It's the fact the people have no knowledge and are tied into lower energies and evil instincts/states of mind.

I hope this helps you understand better.

 

[darkmonkey666]

As for the rewards the higher levels of being and higher planes can be very beautiful and like paradise. This also is partly nature. However to be honest the Gods do and can reward people as well.

 

[Masked LA]

As for the rewards the higher levels of being and higher planes can be very beautiful and like paradise. This also is partly nature. However to be honest the Gods do and can reward people as well.

The higher planes intrigue me so much. Imagine being able to access dimensions that stimulate your senses like in the dreams that occur in the sleep state.

 

[lodoshurricane]

I can actually answer this. It's not Satan and the Gods going around punishing and judging people or any of this. To be honest I honestly think they do not bother even with the souls of most xtians Muslims or Jews etc only in extreme cases would they do that. This would be a monumental time consumer and waste of time at that to monitor and punish or reward everyone.

These concepts still remain the same though. As Satan and his Demons follow the laws of nature and the universe itself. Going against this automatically has consequences unless one like the Jews and higher level enemy artificially shields themselves from this somehow (which they do or try to do) going against these laws brings disease and sickness short life span. After death since those who go against nature do not evolve they end up in the lower astral this can be as horrible of a place as the xtian hell or worse this isn't the Gods doing this though. It's the fact the people have no knowledge and are tied into lower energies and evil instincts/states of mind.

I hope this helps you understand better.

Is it the lower astral? I've never heard of such a thing before in joy of satan. As far as I know, those who have not completed their evolution reincarnate with the moon. When I want to tell and ask, there is a depth, the devil's book is similar to other books and the devil says that other books have been corrupted by changing, does this not mean that those books belonged to the devil before? Also, why does the devil say that there is no god but himself? The same expression is used in other books, but the deity he refers to is different.And there are also many gods besides the satan, wouldn't that statement be technically incorrect? Or there may be another possibility, al jilwah has also been modified? I think we need a definite and clear explanation from HPHC on this issue. It doesn't seem healthy to me to call everything that allegorical about book verses, because also the enemy often does the same to soften the expressions in his own books.

 

[darkmonkey666]

As for the rewards the higher levels of being and higher planes can be very beautiful and like paradise. This also is partly nature. However to be honest the Gods do and can reward people as well.

The higher planes intrigue me so much. Imagine being able to access dimensions that stimulate your senses like in the dreams that occur in the sleep state.

You can experience both the higher and lower astral and change places and levels by adjusting your vibration according to just about all sources. This can be done by thinking about a certain energy or vibration and feeling it in you in your astral body. If you project.

 

[darkmonkey666]

As for the rewards the higher levels of being and higher planes can be very beautiful and like paradise. This also is partly nature. However to be honest the Gods do and can reward people as well.

The higher planes intrigue me so much. Imagine being able to access dimensions that stimulate your senses like in the dreams that occur in the sleep state.

You can experience both the higher and lower astral and change places and levels by adjusting your vibration according to just about all sources. This can be done by thinking about a certain energy or vibration and feeling it in you in your astral body. If you project.

However some places you really are not going to want to end up at. It is best to focus on the higher planes. The higher you go the less likelihood of enemy stuff.

 

[lodoshurricane]

The higher planes intrigue me so much. Imagine being able to access dimensions that stimulate your senses like in the dreams that occur in the sleep state.

You can experience both the higher and lower astral and change places and levels by adjusting your vibration according to just about all sources. This can be done by thinking about a certain energy or vibration and feeling it in you in your astral body. If you project.

However some places you really are not going to want to end up at. It is best to focus on the higher planes. The higher you go the less likelihood of enemy stuff.

Hphc is not responding. Can you at least tell us about the Lower Astral you mentioned? Haven't heard of Joy of Satan before? Is there really such a thing?

Thanks

 

[darkmonkey666]

You can experience both the higher and lower astral and change places and levels by adjusting your vibration according to just about all sources. This can be done by thinking about a certain energy or vibration and feeling it in you in your astral body. If you project.

However some places you really are not going to want to end up at. It is best to focus on the higher planes. The higher you go the less likelihood of enemy stuff.

Hphc is not responding. Can you at least tell us about the Lower Astral you mentioned? Haven't heard of Joy of Satan before? Is there really such a thing?

Thanks

That's easy to find. There doesn't appear to be a lot written on here about the lower or higher astral anywhere on here that I remember. But you want to know type in NDE hell experience in a search engine ignoring the xtian stuff that kind of thing is what the Lower astral is like. Also some books and websites talk about different astral planes or try to tune into it (stay in your body as it's not really safe on the lowest places I don't think) more like remote view.

 

[lodoshurricane]

However some places you really are not going to want to end up at. It is best to focus on the higher planes. The higher you go the less likelihood of enemy stuff.

Hphc is not responding. Can you at least tell us about the Lower Astral you mentioned? Haven't heard of Joy of Satan before? Is there really such a thing?

Thanks

That's easy to find. There doesn't appear to be a lot written on here about the lower or higher astral anywhere on here that I remember. But you want to know type in NDE hell experience in a search engine ignoring the xtian stuff that kind of thing is what the Lower astral is like. Also some books and websites talk about different astral planes or try to tune into it (stay in your body as it's not really safe on the lowest places I don't think) more like remote view.

What I'm actually interested in is: does joy of satan accept the existence of the lower astral and inferno? The lower astral that I know is not mentioned and reincarnation with the moon is explained? Do you know if JOS accepts this?

 

[darkmonkey666]

Hphc is not responding. Can you at least tell us about the Lower Astral you mentioned? Haven't heard of Joy of Satan before? Is there really such a thing?

Thanks

That's easy to find. There doesn't appear to be a lot written on here about the lower or higher astral anywhere on here that I remember. But you want to know type in NDE hell experience in a search engine ignoring the xtian stuff that kind of thing is what the Lower astral is like. Also some books and websites talk about different astral planes or try to tune into it (stay in your body as it's not really safe on the lowest places I don't think) more like remote view.

What I'm actually interested in is: does joy of satan accept the existence of the lower astral and inferno? The lower astral that I know is not mentioned and reincarnation with the moon is explained? Do you know if JOS accepts this?

Not everyone here believes exactly the same thing about everything or even has experience with the same things. If any of the enemy astral things have a physical part to them dealing with the astral or heaven Borg or any of that stuff. Then the moon would be an obvious place for them to put it. But I don't honestly know.