Hearing things

[6The6Return6]

Why don't you drop the cleaning and do some basic empowerment? Don't drop the protection. But you can start using seed mantras, circulating orgasmic energy, hatha and kundalini yoga and you will get results. Basically you don't put effort to actually empower your soul but complain that you don't have an empowered soul.

At this point one wonders whether you're trolling. We are literally witnessing the JWO fall apart because of our rituals but you of all people are skeptical. There is literally so much proof for the truthfulness of this path but you purposefully choose to ignore it. One joker Satanist friend I have summoned a Goddess (Marchosias) being all skeptical about it. Her energy almost knocked him out. He's been dedicated for a few years but always had doubts until that night.

I see the same situation here. You just waste time questioning everything and going to the extreme end of skepticism that is actually unhealthy. Now you're nearing your second decade and what have you achieved spiritually? The Gods might even have come back by the time you decide to actually do some serious meditation to empower your soul and with this attitude, you would still doubt them.

I mean seriously Gear, the truth is clear. You are on the right path. Maybe it's time you started following the counsel of the Gods? Like empowering your soul every day.

I'm not nearly 2 decades away like him, but it's been years and years since 2015. Depression, anxiety and ADHD is complicated to deal with, and skepticism too, but it was going well.

Then came the attack of being a Jew. 2 months without meditating and the idea of ​​being a Jew discourages me.

After almost 3 decades of existence, I just wanted to "know" how to live. It's no use seeing lights and shapes and lucid dreams if I can't even explain what I have, explain this emptiness

Basically you only need to consistently clean your soul to clear away the dross that is keeping you down. You are not a jew. Well, even if you die and find this path in the next lifetime after some decades, you will still have to meditate again. What I'm saying is, don't focus on the time you have wasted. It sucks but what happened happened and you can't change that. Start meditating today. Start small, build a routine. Just the essentials, FRTR, aura cleaning and protection, breathing exercises and yoga. Do them early in the day so as to not procrastinate. And before you know it, you'll be well on an upward path.

I start anyway brother. I hope I'm not a Jew, even though I dream of satanic things in a positive way, golden snake and Satan. I am in doubt.

 

[Blackdragon666]

@Black Dragon

Look I would LOVE to help myself and receive help. I believe I deserve it maybe even go so far as to demand it. But not with meditation I don't want to burden people with my problems. Same reason I don't summon the Gods or if I have in the past only a few times probably 6-7 times. Why should I summon a being of higher power when I answer my own questions. Several times I just talk out loud to this supposed entity/person who wishes to hear me out and I'm basically answering my own questions. There is a reason why I state "I know everything" perhaps it's a negative affirmation and I use it as a crutch not to study just intuit with my mind.

I feel personally since I can't void nor trance that meditation is fake. I've never been able to meditate properly. Probably one of the reasons I like mantra or physical stuff like yoga even though I hate doing physical activities. At least something is done, calming meditations or sitting meditations didn't do it for me.

I sit down all these thoughts pop in, fantasies, I literally hate relaxing and calming myself down. It's weird.

And no I don't slander the very means of things if it doesn't work, it doesn't work what can I say lie to myself.

Living is so tiring if meditation worked I wouldn't be on the forums. I'd simply be in my own World figuring stuff out on my own maybe summoning Demons/Gods or whatever but even then I don't like doing that.

Either way if meditation is to work for me I gotta void and trance without that it doesn't work it's just mental imagining. I guess you can argue I've been meditating everyday of my life imagining all this stuff growing up.

I never had fun with meditation if anything meditating everyday is just a chore much like mantra on chakras way too much time it takes up. I don't feel different or better. As a matter of fact my parents have heard me meditate and I come out more pist off and more angry even having my father going "How can you meditate and calm yourself down and all you do is scream and tell us bad words and anger at us".

Well because everything pisses me off, I'm always pist off. What can I say I'm an angry soul.

Either way every day is lunacy even spending 2 minutes trying to void is pure agony. I don't like meditating it never worked.

If you look at people who suffer seriously in some way, they usually have a mindset that relates to their problems. People who attract abuse are usually very forgiving, sensitive and meek. People with money issues usually have a scarcity mindset and many don't believe they deserve wealth and material comforts. And so on. There are other ways bad karma can come about (curses for example) but the above is a common way. Have you ever noticed that the things you affirm on yourself pretty much relate with your life? This can go back lifetimes which is why it is severe for you. This is not even the enemy but yourself doing black magic on your own soul for what appears to be lifetimes.

If you want the Gods to help you out of the hole you are in, show them you want out of it. For example, if you have serious poverty issues, the Gods can provide for you but how much will that really help you? The problem is continuous as it is strongly fated and why should the Gods have to deal with that yet they have provided the knowledge by which you can deal with it? Why should their precious and much needed energy be used to help someone who can help their own self? Here, you can do daily cleaning and a full 40 or 90 day working to remove poverty from your soul. Then you can do a working to attract a decent job, workings for material gain and so on. I assure you, the Gods will personally add their own blessings to such a person because even less energy will be needed here and you appreciated the knowledge provided.

The reason why so much work will be needed to restore humanity is because people don't know how to help themselves. If all humans knew about the original teachings of the Gods and applied them, this earth would go back to the golden age in one or two millennia or less. But everybody out there can barely even feel their soul, some don't even know they have a soul. So they live recklessly and pile spiritual dross on their souls (add the enemy's curses) and we keep suffering in an endless cycle.

You want to help yourself, the teachings of the Gods are the only way to help yourself. I would suggest you state this affirmation a few times daily, 'I do not have any negative attitudes towards meditation and I am completely willing to do it consistently'. This is simple and doesn't require any energy work. Try to calm your mind a bit before you state it. It doesn't have to be like in void meditation. It will knock off all subconscious obstacles you have created against meditation and you will be much more willing to try it. You can use 9 reps as this number can be used for ending things. After a few weeks you should notice a change in your attitude towards meditation.

Trust me when I tell you the Gods DO want to help humanity but you need to be cooperative otherwise they can't force their help on you. This is like trying to chew food for someone. If the Gods didn't want to help, you wouldn't even know about them.

I also had the same problem with calming the mind. Certain signs on my chart, and the elements in my chart too. Nowadays I can enter a deep trance if I want to, because of consistently practicing void meditation. There are no time limits Gear. You just do it and you bloom in your own time.

Yes, it works. You have people like HPHC who are naturally skeptical who lasted in this path and prospered. You have all these advanced members like NakedPluto, Lydia, Shannon and the rest. You literally witnessed them join the JoS as total noobs and look where they are now. Ironically, you have also witnessed HPS Maxine go from fairly advanced back in 2002 to levels very few have reached in modern human history.

Actually you don't have to be in a trance, even mild, to feel the effect of certain mantras. It works better when your mind is empty but you can still get results if you do it with an active mind.

The problem is not meditation but what is in your soul. This is what keeps you in the life you're living. It is not going anywhere and not even death could help you. You have to address it or the cycle will keep going. Meditation past a point is very enjoyable. That is not the point of it anyway and is more of an added benefit.

Channel your anger into meditation. Start fixing your life today.

I start anyway brother. I hope I'm not a Jew, even though I dream of satanic things in a positive way, golden snake and Satan. I am in doubt.

A jew will know it is one. They have a collective consciousness and cannot genuinely be drawn to Satan. Most will even sense a Satanic soul (I experienced this with a Black jew sometime back). It shows how racially aware they are. You know you are a Gentile. Keep doing what you have started and follow the tips I gave you in the other reply like doing your meditations early in the day.

 

[Shadowcat]

You literally have Satanas written upside down, which is reverse in normal view. I think you need to write it normally.

It’s a matter of PERCEPTION. I thought it would be a cool game for people to see my signature and think “hmm what does that say” and then flip it to read in the name of our God Satan. I can type out SATANAS right here and then turn my phone upside down for it to be reversed does that mean the SATANAS that I just typed out is negative or truly reversed? Maybe there’s someone that lives their life upside down like this.

Satanas in the right side up way for him is actually reversed so which is it? Something can’t be a universal law if it’s different for everyone what really matters is the intention and affirmation behind it which for me is a positive one.

And the disrespect for me was saying in a laughing way and being oppositional that you need years and such hard work to hear one word from a Demon. Which is disrespectful and unaware of the highness of these beings, and secondly not true.

Advancing for the sake of talking to Demons is a very selfish thing. They should only be talking to people like High Priests that have to relay important news and rituals/PMs to us not empty headed people that just want validation and to feel superior over others.

I don’t even think most people are telling the truth about astral communication and experiences they are LARPing about being able to talk to Demons just to push their own ideas and thoughts about others onto the forum like when Jake Carlson says something absurd, gets backlash for it and then says “sorry guys it was a message from a Demon that didn’t get through my third eye properly” or some stupid shit. Everybody knows what incident I’m talking about.

There’s a culture here where someone can say whatever they want and everyone else has to treat it like it is the ultimate truth because ALLEGEDLY this person intercepted their message from a God. People even use this in personal disputes of ego where some wisenheimer tells another wisenheimer that they are no good or of the enemy because a Demon told them so. No a demon did not say that so it either makes one delusional or a complete liar. “The Gods said” carries no weight anymore because self serving people with ulterior motives used it to make themselves look good and truthful.

I totally agree with about people larping, and some select few telling everybody what they've been told by Satan or another God, which from my experience and point of view, by a multitude of judgemental factors, is delusion, self lying or purposefully stating some things. No arguing on that.

Satan does not give advice that can be found in the self help book at the cornerstone, or that is already written by in some random blog about psychology for dummies. Whenever a God speaks, the words received have meaning for eternity.

I don't consider myself an empty human, neither need validation or ego boost. I actually have an enormous ego and I know how to satisfy my needs and desires without getting in way of our agenda, our people and goals.

Satan and the Gods do guide, create, speak and lead us. Every newbie, whether or not he she knew, was and is guided directly by the powers of Hell.

It isn't only the clergy who speak with the Gods on a direct basis. Be 100% sure of that. And neither should we have a say on what a God does, desires and how they approach us. What is for certain, is that we must approach as well.

Every SS needs and has a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH SATAN AND THE GODS. Without this, everything is in vain and is called stagnation.

I Know i have given personal experiences when i have believed my guardian or someone else coming to me with something or to show me something. The only time i will ever share it is if i at least strongly believe it to have accuracy due to the nature of a timing or a coincidence that ends up helping me, of if i recieve information that turns out to be accurate, before knowing something beforehand. I never expect others to take my word for it but the genuine reason i share it is to hope to inspire and encourage others to open up, especially if i really feel something has helped me which really makes me happy about. It would be dishonest and putting words in the Gods mouths if i was telling everyone that they told me something they didn't. Athough there are also other things lately that i have been pondering on that i could have misinterpereted. I personally try to tell what i experience as just that, how it was experienced and showing why i think it could have valitidy but never harshly insist anything to be set in stone. And although i do also leave things to be open for critique or another point of view it has also never been my intention to bs people or laarp, and certainly would not make something of a serious nature up.

What you guys both describe though interms of dispute and ego i have also seen however. I almost never take anything 100 percent especially right away. Somethings that i do know about telepathy however are that it can be sorely inaccurate if one emotionally identifies with their thinking, which alot of humans do, ego issues and so fourth. i definately wont say either that i am not guilty of this. I also feel that if something is communicated telepathically it will more often than not be communicated in other ways than words, and if in words will be very few. if i am wrong please correct me. but this is what it seems to me at least thus far.

 

[Shadowcat]

You literally have Satanas written upside down, which is reverse in normal view. I think you need to write it normally.

It’s a matter of PERCEPTION. I thought it would be a cool game for people to see my signature and think “hmm what does that say” and then flip it to read in the name of our God Satan. I can type out SATANAS right here and then turn my phone upside down for it to be reversed does that mean the SATANAS that I just typed out is negative or truly reversed? Maybe there’s someone that lives their life upside down like this.

Satanas in the right side up way for him is actually reversed so which is it? Something can’t be a universal law if it’s different for everyone what really matters is the intention and affirmation behind it which for me is a positive one.

And the disrespect for me was saying in a laughing way and being oppositional that you need years and such hard work to hear one word from a Demon. Which is disrespectful and unaware of the highness of these beings, and secondly not true.

Advancing for the sake of talking to Demons is a very selfish thing. They should only be talking to people like High Priests that have to relay important news and rituals/PMs to us not empty headed people that just want validation and to feel superior over others.

I don’t even think most people are telling the truth about astral communication and experiences they are LARPing about being able to talk to Demons just to push their own ideas and thoughts about others onto the forum like when Jake Carlson says something absurd, gets backlash for it and then says “sorry guys it was a message from a Demon that didn’t get through my third eye properly” or some stupid shit. Everybody knows what incident I’m talking about.

There’s a culture here where someone can say whatever they want and everyone else has to treat it like it is the ultimate truth because ALLEGEDLY this person intercepted their message from a God. People even use this in personal disputes of ego where some wisenheimer tells another wisenheimer that they are no good or of the enemy because a Demon told them so. No a demon did not say that so it either makes one delusional or a complete liar. “The Gods said” carries no weight anymore because self serving people with ulterior motives used it to make themselves look good and truthful.

People even use this in personal disputes of ego where some wisenheimer tells another wisenheimer that they are no good or of the enemy because a Demon told them so. No a demon did not say that so it either makes one delusional or a complete liar. “The Gods said” carries no weight anymore because self serving people with ulterior motives used it to make themselves look good and truthful.

I know there have been squabbles every now and then but this i have not seen specifically. Was this here or did someone tell you something in private?

 

[SouthernWhiteGentile]

Got back to your mail take care.

 

[6The6Return6]

@Black Dragon

Look I would LOVE to help myself and receive help. I believe I deserve it maybe even go so far as to demand it. But not with meditation I don't want to burden people with my problems. Same reason I don't summon the Gods or if I have in the past only a few times probably 6-7 times. Why should I summon a being of higher power when I answer my own questions. Several times I just talk out loud to this supposed entity/person who wishes to hear me out and I'm basically answering my own questions. There is a reason why I state "I know everything" perhaps it's a negative affirmation and I use it as a crutch not to study just intuit with my mind.

I feel personally since I can't void nor trance that meditation is fake. I've never been able to meditate properly. Probably one of the reasons I like mantra or physical stuff like yoga even though I hate doing physical activities. At least something is done, calming meditations or sitting meditations didn't do it for me.

I sit down all these thoughts pop in, fantasies, I literally hate relaxing and calming myself down. It's weird.

And no I don't slander the very means of things if it doesn't work, it doesn't work what can I say lie to myself.

Living is so tiring if meditation worked I wouldn't be on the forums. I'd simply be in my own World figuring stuff out on my own maybe summoning Demons/Gods or whatever but even then I don't like doing that.

Either way if meditation is to work for me I gotta void and trance without that it doesn't work it's just mental imagining. I guess you can argue I've been meditating everyday of my life imagining all this stuff growing up.

I never had fun with meditation if anything meditating everyday is just a chore much like mantra on chakras way too much time it takes up. I don't feel different or better. As a matter of fact my parents have heard me meditate and I come out more pist off and more angry even having my father going "How can you meditate and calm yourself down and all you do is scream and tell us bad words and anger at us".

Well because everything pisses me off, I'm always pist off. What can I say I'm an angry soul.

Either way every day is lunacy even spending 2 minutes trying to void is pure agony. I don't like meditating it never worked.

If you look at people who suffer seriously in some way, they usually have a mindset that relates to their problems. People who attract abuse are usually very forgiving, sensitive and meek. People with money issues usually have a scarcity mindset and many don't believe they deserve wealth and material comforts. And so on. There are other ways bad karma can come about (curses for example) but the above is a common way. Have you ever noticed that the things you affirm on yourself pretty much relate with your life? This can go back lifetimes which is why it is severe for you. This is not even the enemy but yourself doing black magic on your own soul for what appears to be lifetimes.

If you want the Gods to help you out of the hole you are in, show them you want out of it. For example, if you have serious poverty issues, the Gods can provide for you but how much will that really help you? The problem is continuous as it is strongly fated and why should the Gods have to deal with that yet they have provided the knowledge by which you can deal with it? Why should their precious and much needed energy be used to help someone who can help their own self? Here, you can do daily cleaning and a full 40 or 90 day working to remove poverty from your soul. Then you can do a working to attract a decent job, workings for material gain and so on. I assure you, the Gods will personally add their own blessings to such a person because even less energy will be needed here and you appreciated the knowledge provided.

The reason why so much work will be needed to restore humanity is because people don't know how to help themselves. If all humans knew about the original teachings of the Gods and applied them, this earth would go back to the golden age in one or two millennia or less. But everybody out there can barely even feel their soul, some don't even know they have a soul. So they live recklessly and pile spiritual dross on their souls (add the enemy's curses) and we keep suffering in an endless cycle.

You want to help yourself, the teachings of the Gods are the only way to help yourself. I would suggest you state this affirmation a few times daily, 'I do not have any negative attitudes towards meditation and I am completely willing to do it consistently'. This is simple and doesn't require any energy work. Try to calm your mind a bit before you state it. It doesn't have to be like in void meditation. It will knock off all subconscious obstacles you have created against meditation and you will be much more willing to try it. You can use 9 reps as this number can be used for ending things. After a few weeks you should notice a change in your attitude towards meditation.

Trust me when I tell you the Gods DO want to help humanity but you need to be cooperative otherwise they can't force their help on you. This is like trying to chew food for someone. If the Gods didn't want to help, you wouldn't even know about them.

I also had the same problem with calming the mind. Certain signs on my chart, and the elements in my chart too. Nowadays I can enter a deep trance if I want to, because of consistently practicing void meditation. There are no time limits Gear. You just do it and you bloom in your own time.

Yes, it works. You have people like HPHC who are naturally skeptical who lasted in this path and prospered. You have all these advanced members like NakedPluto, Lydia, Shannon and the rest. You literally witnessed them join the JoS as total noobs and look where they are now. Ironically, you have also witnessed HPS Maxine go from fairly advanced back in 2002 to levels very few have reached in modern human history.

Actually you don't have to be in a trance, even mild, to feel the effect of certain mantras. It works better when your mind is empty but you can still get results if you do it with an active mind.

The problem is not meditation but what is in your soul. This is what keeps you in the life you're living. It is not going anywhere and not even death could help you. You have to address it or the cycle will keep going. Meditation past a point is very enjoyable. That is not the point of it anyway and is more of an added benefit.

Channel your anger into meditation. Start fixing your life today.

I start anyway brother. I hope I'm not a Jew, even though I dream of satanic things in a positive way, golden snake and Satan. I am in doubt.

A jew will know it is one. They have a collective consciousness and cannot genuinely be drawn to Satan. Most will even sense a Satanic soul (I experienced this with a Black jew sometime back). It shows how racially aware they are. You know you are a Gentile. Keep doing what you have started and follow the tips I gave you in the other reply like doing your meditations early in the day.

Yes, I will try again and again, as always, although this time it was different. Thanks for the words and good meditations for you!

 

[NinRick]

@Black Dragon

Look I would LOVE to help myself and receive help. I believe I deserve it maybe even go so far as to demand it. But not with meditation I don't want to burden people with my problems. Same reason I don't summon the Gods or if I have in the past only a few times probably 6-7 times. Why should I summon a being of higher power when I answer my own questions. Several times I just talk out loud to this supposed entity/person who wishes to hear me out and I'm basically answering my own questions. There is a reason why I state "I know everything" perhaps it's a negative affirmation and I use it as a crutch not to study just intuit with my mind.

I feel personally since I can't void nor trance that meditation is fake. I've never been able to meditate properly. Probably one of the reasons I like mantra or physical stuff like yoga even though I hate doing physical activities. At least something is done, calming meditations or sitting meditations didn't do it for me.

I sit down all these thoughts pop in, fantasies, I literally hate relaxing and calming myself down. It's weird.

And no I don't slander the very means of things if it doesn't work, it doesn't work what can I say lie to myself.

Living is so tiring if meditation worked I wouldn't be on the forums. I'd simply be in my own World figuring stuff out on my own maybe summoning Demons/Gods or whatever but even then I don't like doing that.

Either way if meditation is to work for me I gotta void and trance without that it doesn't work it's just mental imagining. I guess you can argue I've been meditating everyday of my life imagining all this stuff growing up.

I never had fun with meditation if anything meditating everyday is just a chore much like mantra on chakras way too much time it takes up. I don't feel different or better. As a matter of fact my parents have heard me meditate and I come out more pist off and more angry even having my father going "How can you meditate and calm yourself down and all you do is scream and tell us bad words and anger at us".

Well because everything pisses me off, I'm always pist off. What can I say I'm an angry soul.

Either way every day is lunacy even spending 2 minutes trying to void is pure agony. I don't like meditating it never worked.

*looks in absolute confusion*

Your mindset is so retarded.
With your views, even if someone wanted to help you, you would not accept it. Dude when a God offers his/her helping hand, you don’t say „nah, I am good. I don’t want to burden you.“

You fucking grab the hand be grateful and try to give something in return ffs.

„Meditation is fake“ dude if you are just a loser who isn’t able to work on your own soul, okay so be it. But don’t fucking come here and drag the moral down of people.

Imagine new people reading this and thinking you are right. I can tell you, meditations are not fake. Even I can do it. So can you.

Get your shit together man.