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Has anyone used the Jupiter square for things outside the ones listed on Jos?

luis

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As the title, as anyone used it? On the Jos it says that can be used for luck and expansion so I would think it can be used for things like attracting a partner for example or attracting any other thing that are not listed. I want to know some experience.
 
I have had a theory that I have not tested yet but am going to with my own Jupiter in my chart when I can. I have theorized that doing a planetary square can to a lesser extent or at least indirectly amplify the influences that planet has on another planet if that other planet is being aspected by the one in your chart that you are doing the planetary square for. It would after all be connected to the karma of that planet for better or worse. I am curious to what others think on this as well. I am sure this could definitely count for a conjunction or a stellium in the same house.
 
Shadowcat said:
I have had a theory that I have not tested yet but am going to with my own Jupiter in my chart when I can. I have theorized that doing a planetary square can to a lesser extent or at least indirectly amplify the influences that planet has on another planet if that other planet is being aspected by the one in your chart that you are doing the planetary square for. It would after all be connected to the karma of that planet for better or worse. I am curious to what others think on this as well. I am sure this could definitely count for a conjunction or a stellium in the same house.
Yes, planets influence each other. And then we have matters ruled by houses that are also influenced by planets.

A practical example would be having a limiting factor by one planet to another that is neutered with a freeing of the soul working. Mantra of a planet works in a similar manner.
 
Henu the Great said:
Shadowcat said:
I have had a theory that I have not tested yet but am going to with my own Jupiter in my chart when I can. I have theorized that doing a planetary square can to a lesser extent or at least indirectly amplify the influences that planet has on another planet if that other planet is being aspected by the one in your chart that you are doing the planetary square for. It would after all be connected to the karma of that planet for better or worse. I am curious to what others think on this as well. I am sure this could definitely count for a conjunction or a stellium in the same house.
Yes, planets influence each other. And then we have matters ruled by houses that are also influenced by planets.

A practical example would be having a limiting factor by one planet to another that is neutered with a freeing of the soul working. Mantra of a planet works in a similar manner.
Well like I said Jupiter rules luck, prosperity and expantion, this could be great for anything. The Sun does rule things that could generally help with anything too. The Jupiter Square is only 16 days too so it should be tested. I'm definitely going to be testing it for something and see what happen.
 
luis said:
As the title, as anyone used it? On the Jos it says that can be used for luck and expansion so I would think it can be used for things like attracting a partner for example or attracting any other thing that are not listed. I want to know some experience.

The Squares can be used in a lot of ways but the way Jupiter's energy works is distinct. Using it for something outside of its specialty weakens what it is working for considerably, even if you consider getting a partner 'lucky'. Relationships are built on give and take with others, not necessarily hitting the jackpot and having fun endlessly.

If you're using it for attracting a partner, it could be very 'lucky to have this person... but here today gone tomorrow' compared with Venus. It could be highly beneficial for you, but not necessarily committal and could leave you wanting more in a way that is never fulfilled. It can also attract partners with Jupiterian qualities like knowledge, outdoorsy nature, excess and dogmatism, but that can be desirable or undesirable depending on who the practitioner is.

With partners, Venus is a lot better at this, Mars a distant second, since these both deal with relationships, exchange, intercourse, union and sex.

Of course, you can use Venus and Jupiter Squares in combination to attract a partner, even using the same affirmation, which in addition to being extremely powerful might give specific nuances to your goal, such as divine timing and new beginnings from Jupiter itself. That is the best way to use a Jupiter Square in areas it doesn't deal with.

This also depends on the SIGN Jupiter is in. Jupiter in Libra or Cancer is better for this than Jupiter in Aries. Don't do this in any of Jupiter's fall or detriment signs, ever.

People with cusps of 7th, 5th and sometimes 8th Houses with Pisces and Sagittarius, or Jupiter in Libra, can derive more benefits from such a working. But some people's Jupiters are shit with relationships specifically and they need to be careful, especially when Neptune is also involved. If your 7th House is cusp 9 degrees Pisces, doing this unprotected can have potentially very negative consequences.

As for your question I have used the Jupiter Square for learning foreign languages but amazing results from this also can only occur at a certain level of development. Mercury should be used here too.
 
All the attributes of prosperity, optimism, expansion, benevolence, abundance, happiness can be attributed to whatever you desire, you need only to find the perspective and understand what it accomplishes.

In regard to relationships, this will and can facilitate expansion of social and love life, opportunities for good times in regard to the specified desire, will ease burdens of negatives if there are present. In general, Jupiter should be a very good blessing, and you must think of blessing one part of life you desire to. Relationships, wealth, positions, status, well-being. Venus might procure love, Jupiter won't, but will procure happiness and expansion of said dynamic, and think of it as an agent of volume in regard to the positives. As stated previously by Karnonnos, be aware of having a grip on what it actually does, and to not have things ever in excess, even if very positive. Here comes your aptitude of visualisation and imprinting the right affirmation.

It won't change structures, it won't be transformative, it won't fix problems (because you use the wrong tool for the wrong screw in a way), but it will support and sustain the positives of something, and help bring about more of those positives. The question is, are you at the step of doing this expansion? Because doing expansions on not-so-solid foundations can crumble at a point or backlash.
 
Karnonnos said:
luis said:
As the title, as anyone used it? On the Jos it says that can be used for luck and expansion so I would think it can be used for things like attracting a partner for example or attracting any other thing that are not listed. I want to know some experience.

The Squares can be used in a lot of ways but the way Jupiter's energy works is distinct. Using it for something outside of its specialty weakens what it is working for considerably, even if you consider getting a partner 'lucky'. Relationships are built on give and take with others, not necessarily hitting the jackpot and having fun endlessly.

If you're using it for attracting a partner, it could be very 'lucky to have this person... but here today gone tomorrow' compared with Venus. It could be highly beneficial for you, but not necessarily committal and could leave you wanting more in a way that is never fulfilled. It can also attract partners with Jupiterian qualities like knowledge, outdoorsy nature, excess and dogmatism, but that can be desirable or undesirable depending on who the practitioner is.

With partners, Venus is a lot better at this, Mars a distant second, since these both deal with relationships, exchange, intercourse, union and sex.

Of course, you can use Venus and Jupiter Squares in combination to attract a partner, even using the same affirmation, which in addition to being extremely powerful might give specific nuances to your goal, such as divine timing and new beginnings from Jupiter itself. That is the best way to use a Jupiter Square in areas it doesn't deal with.

This also depends on the SIGN Jupiter is in. Jupiter in Libra or Cancer is better for this than Jupiter in Aries. Don't do this in any of Jupiter's fall or detriment signs, ever.

People with cusps of 7th, 5th and sometimes 8th Houses with Pisces and Sagittarius, or Jupiter in Libra, can derive more benefits from such a working. But some people's Jupiters are shit with relationships specifically and they need to be careful, especially when Neptune is also involved. If your 7th House is cusp 9 degrees Pisces, doing this unprotected can have potentially very negative consequences.

As for your question I have used the Jupiter Square for learning foreign languages but amazing results from this also can only occur at a certain level of development. Mercury should be used here too.
What you say makes sense but I would not dismiss luck. You can luckily get the perfect partner or the thing you need. It's definitely something it can be experimented, this is why I asked for experiences.
 

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