Growing in discipline

[Draconi666]

Everyone of us knows what is discipline for real, not like men and women of the jewtrix of these days, who thinks it is something too simple and boring almost like trowing it out the window.

We SS fall in love with discipline. Everything what we do in repetitive way and keeping it like that, eventually brings our mind into balanced state, it gradually starts to become part of us, we start to grow in it.

For example if one rides a bicycle, or go for running, or exercises, meditates every day, reading, anything,
one by wanting to live more, have no other way but to grow by doing it, it is like if someone would put one human into island where is everything needed for living, and gradually that man would start to hunt for food, build shelter, generating ideas for betterment of managing one’s environment and living in it and etc.

Same way when one starts to do some kind of practices like meditation, after going trough certain checkpoints, awareness with confidence grows, one starts to see more in it, do more, consciousness is rising and expanding.

So this is actually freedom, discipline is actually freedom, for one to become something, if one starts to go and never stop then one starts to grow, and never stop.

Fruits of this, is what makes us cling into it more and more, and juice of them becomes our blood.

Importance of discipline becomes above everything, how we make it, thats how it makes us, never stopping, persistence and stubbornness at all times no matter what, will push us trough anything in our life not only forward, but also upward - which is higher than any direction, and by the time as our awareness grows in these, the will of the stainless steel will become our quality of discipline and later on of our life.

Unconditional devotion towards practices, doing it with same care, attention and caution like growing child, because we are like little children in this path compared to the Gods, depending on this accordingly we have put needed quality of our actions and interest in doing it.

It is not enough just to do for the sake of doing, discipline must become more conscious, and higher, we have to grow in it and find more ways in it, going above it, and find more ways above, extend these downwards into old lower ways of our living, and merge it into one way, making it more complex and let it expand into our way of living everywhere we go and anything we do.

Working in meditation or walking down the street, it is the same life, inside same growing process happening, outside same sun is shining, everywhere we go same best of our quality of our existence must be given, everything can become tool for development, everything can be discipline, we must grow in discipline and let the discipline grow into our lives without any limits.

If we constantly striving to live to the fullest, there can not be other way but to do it yes?

By the way. We know In the discipline there is consciousness packed. When one is doing something with great devotion and care, and at once keeps it at utmost importance in one’s life, then consciousness is expanding there. But life is everywhere, not only there.

If we are seeking this, why shouldn’t we put same efforts in every moment of our life? By experience we know what kind of bliss and ecstasy is meditation after all, these states of being are definitely the essential elements for a living if one wants to explore life and grow with joy and courage.

Let this be just like a little motivational speech for my beloved brothers and sisters, hope you enjoyed.

Thanks,
-Draconi666

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

Without discipline, you die whilst living. I like how you wrote here, as it puts emphasis upon the conscious movement of living life, thus in need of meaning and structure, and structure is repeated form and quality.

 

[Draconi666]

Without discipline, you die whilst living. I like how you wrote here, as it puts emphasis upon the conscious movement of living life, thus in need of meaning and structure, and structure is repeated form and quality.

Thank you! it’s big honor for me to see member like you, commenting good words on my post.

 

[sinbad]

Very good post, not sure why/how I came across it, but.

I've been doing what's written here myself these past few days, where every moment is "intentional" and "deliberate".

It's somewhat hard to maintain, and tiring, but it's getting easier. Here's some random notes I jotted down in my phone:

- One can experience "more" of life by simply being more present and actively observing things. Critical thinking, analysis, and learning from one's mistakes should be a near constant state of being outside of rest periods.

- You learn 10x faster when you're actively correcting mistakes and fine-tuning everything to perfection, rather than passively floating through daily life - and one's growth in these areas is exponentially increased to quite an impressive degree.

- Time, urgency—one must operate according to these factors of utmost importance with total concentration. Every second, every minute, every hour—one's actions must be performed deliberately and with intention, as well as awareness of this concept of time and urgency; being "swallowed by Chronus (the mouth of time (Saturn))".

- I want to be more deliberate and precise with my use of language and interactions with others; controlled but free flowing—everything must become an intentional move on the board.

 

[sinbad]

Very good post, not sure why/how I came across it, but.

I've been doing what's written here myself these past few days, where every moment is "intentional" and "deliberate".

It's somewhat hard to maintain, and tiring, but it's getting easier. Here's some random notes I jotted down in my phone:

- One can experience "more" of life by simply being more present and actively observing things. Critical thinking, analysis, and learning from one's mistakes should be a near constant state of being outside of rest periods.

- You learn 10x faster when you're actively correcting mistakes and fine-tuning everything to perfection, rather than passively floating through daily life - and one's growth in these areas is exponentially increased to quite an impressive degree.

- Time, urgency—one must operate according to these factors of utmost importance with total concentration. Every second, every minute, every hour—one's actions must be performed deliberately and with intention, as well as awareness of this concept of time and urgency; being "swallowed by Chronus (the mouth of time (Saturn))".

- I want to be more deliberate and precise with my use of language and interactions with others; controlled but free flowing—everything must become an intentional move on the board.

By experiencing "more of life" I mean more details reveal themselves to you.

One begins to notice the 'pores in the skin' of the world around them.

 

[Tartarus Envoy]

What happened to your latest post on the Kundalini? I wasnt finished reading it, revisited the page, and I can't find it. Was it removed? Why?

Without discipline, you die whilst living. I like how you wrote here, as it puts emphasis upon the conscious movement of living life, thus in need of meaning and structure, and structure is repeated form and quality.

 

[xlnt]

 

[Xerath666]

Everyone of us knows what is discipline for real, not like men and women of the jewtrix of these days, who thinks it is something too simple and boring almost like trowing it out the window.

We SS fall in love with discipline. Everything what we do in repetitive way and keeping it like that, eventually brings our mind into balanced state, it gradually starts to become part of us, we start to grow in it.

For example if one rides a bicycle, or go for running, or exercises, meditates every day, reading, anything,
one by wanting to live more, have no other way but to grow by doing it, it is like if someone would put one human into island where is everything needed for living, and gradually that man would start to hunt for food, build shelter, generating ideas for betterment of managing one’s environment and living in it and etc.

Same way when one starts to do some kind of practices like meditation, after going trough certain checkpoints, awareness with confidence grows, one starts to see more in it, do more, consciousness is rising and expanding.

So this is actually freedom, discipline is actually freedom, for one to become something, if one starts to go and never stop then one starts to grow, and never stop.

Fruits of this, is what makes us cling into it more and more, and juice of them becomes our blood.

Importance of discipline becomes above everything, how we make it, thats how it makes us, never stopping, persistence and stubbornness at all times no matter what, will push us trough anything in our life not only forward, but also upward - which is higher than any direction, and by the time as our awareness grows in these, the will of the stainless steel will become our quality of discipline and later on of our life.

Unconditional devotion towards practices, doing it with same care, attention and caution like growing child, because we are like little children in this path compared to the Gods, depending on this accordingly we have put needed quality of our actions and interest in doing it.

It is not enough just to do for the sake of doing, discipline must become more conscious, and higher, we have to grow in it and find more ways in it, going above it, and find more ways above, extend these downwards into old lower ways of our living, and merge it into one way, making it more complex and let it expand into our way of living everywhere we go and anything we do.

Working in meditation or walking down the street, it is the same life, inside same growing process happening, outside same sun is shining, everywhere we go same best of our quality of our existence must be given, everything can become tool for development, everything can be discipline, we must grow in discipline and let the discipline grow into our lives without any limits.

If we constantly striving to live to the fullest, there can not be other way but to do it yes?

By the way. We know In the discipline there is consciousness packed. When one is doing something with great devotion and care, and at once keeps it at utmost importance in one’s life, then consciousness is expanding there. But life is everywhere, not only there.

If we are seeking this, why shouldn’t we put same efforts in every moment of our life? By experience we know what kind of bliss and ecstasy is meditation after all, these states of being are definitely the essential elements for a living if one wants to explore life and grow with joy and courage.

Let this be just like a little motivational speech for my beloved brothers and sisters, hope you enjoyed.

Thanks,
-Draconi666

Great post, discipline is everything

 

[Aquarius]

Without discipline, you die whilst living. I like how you wrote here, as it puts emphasis upon the conscious movement of living life, thus in need of meaning and structure, and structure is repeated form and quality.

Reminds me of the quote by Benjamin Franklin: "Some people die at 25 and aren't buried until 75"

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

What happened to your latest post on the Kundalini? I wasnt finished reading it, revisited the page, and I can't find it. Was it removed? Why?

I asked to be deleted as it is not a good post.

 

[Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής]

I asked to be deleted as it is not a good post.

Hi!
To me it seemed to be awesome and I even wanted to ask a question, it was approved but now when I and seems others too came back to check it, it was gone.
And may we ask why that post of yours was not good?
I mean if you can or will have time could you explain it, please?
Thank you!

 

[Tartarus Envoy]

I asked to be deleted as it is not a good post.

How though? you were saying almost the same exact things HP Hooded Cobra said on the topic in his past writings, basically confirming him. I don't see how it was a "bad" post...

 

[Tartarus Envoy]

We SS fall in love with discipline. Everything what we do in repetitive way and keeping it like that, eventually brings our mind into balanced state, it gradually starts to become part of us, we start to grow in it.

I believe discipline is simply an expression of your existence, solidified into a way of life that is consistent, and practically perhaps even a part of your karma. If you are interested in something, but you still have not drowned yourself in the pure passion for that goal, hobby, etc. Then something is wrong and you need to address it quickly.

 

[Tartarus Envoy]

I've been doing what's written here myself these past few days, where every moment is "intentional" and "deliberate".

It's somewhat hard to maintain, and tiring, but it's getting easier. Here's some random notes I jotted down in my phone:

I get what you are saying, but frankly, I dont think it would be very natural for humans to always be conscious of every thing they do all the time, personally. I believe the problem is when people are active where they should be more passive, such as in meditations, art, music, etc. basically anything having to do with the right brain, and vice versa for the active part, such as calculating things, sports, etc.

There is a phenomenon called the "flow state", famous now by some of these new agers. I believe its a combination of both passivity ( as in the continuation and being in the meditative state), and also activity ( having made the active prior decision to do something, and paying full attention only to the current action)... I believe this is very valuable.

 

[Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής]

How though? you were saying almost the same exact things HP Hooded Cobra said on the topic in his past writings, basically confirming him. I don't see how it was a "bad" post...

I'm also a bit confused. Then it means it would have "mistakes" or something? I am also asking it because some Hungarian comrades wanted to translate it, besides similar posts, because in Hungarian there are not much translation about such topic unfortunately. And I personally find it awesome when a really advanced person share such experiences, it is so helpful and useful. Not like some old, weird writings with delusions by some ex-members...

 

[sinbad]

I asked to be deleted as it is not a good post.

Wtf! Please re-upload it or send it to me. I had it saved as one of my favourite posts. I didn't think you would delete it.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

Wtf! Please re-upload it or send it to me. I had it saved as one of my favourite posts. I didn't think you would delete it.

I'm also a bit confused. Then it means it would have "mistakes" or something? I am also asking it because some Hungarian comrades wanted to translate it, besides similar posts, because in Hungarian there are not much translation about such topic unfortunately. And I personally find it awesome when a really advanced person share such experiences, it is so helpful and useful. Not like some old, weird writings with delusions by some ex-members...

How though? you were saying almost the same exact things HP Hooded Cobra said on the topic in his past writings, basically confirming him. I don't see how it was a "bad" post...

It contained no real value for you or wisdom that would help anyone, just sensationalism that, at the time, thought was valuable, yet there's none in it. These things do not really help anyone.

 

[Tartarus Envoy]

It contained no real value for you or wisdom that would help anyone, just sensationalism that, at the time, thought was valuable, yet there's none in it. These things do not really help anyone.

Again, it was not just "sensationalism", it was a list of detailed symptoms for two different levels for raising the Kundalini, which I believe gives perspective to anyone who is serious about this business of spiritual attainment... I frankly do not understand your logic. But whatever, it is your own post.

The experience of people is very important to be relayed, and can be valuable, especially when it comes to those who have been here longer.

 

[Wotanwarrior]

It contained no real value for you or wisdom that would help anyone, just sensationalism that, at the time, thought was valuable, yet there's none in it. These things do not really help anyone.

I did understand that it can create false expectations and I explained it to her in her profile.
But it seems that they have not understood and continue to insist.

 

[Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής]

I did understand that it can create false expectations and I explained it to her in her profile.
But it seems that they have not understood and continue to insist.

It is not about that I or others did not understand your opinion where you "explained" it.
It was about that I and others were curious and/or confused and that is why we asked directly Brother Pluto as he was the creator of that post. Is it a problem? I would not think so. But if yes, why is it a problem? I mean it's a bit like now as if we should not have asked the person himself...Because you (or anyone else) understood it and explained it.

Anyways the point is that now it became clear or clearer.
So thank you, Pluto, for your reply!

 

[Tartarus Envoy]

I don't think that things should be removed just because people can have false expectations. If we are to worry about such things then we should just remove everything from the website. Responsibility to the responsible. Clergy and advanced individuals should set a baseline of reason when it comes to approaching certain topics (which, for the most part has been done if you read the forums and the library), and people would know what to expect.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

Again, it was not just "sensationalism", it was a list of detailed symptoms for two different levels for raising the Kundalini, which I believe gives perspective to anyone who is serious about this business of spiritual attainment... I frankly do not understand your logic. But whatever, it is your own post.

The experience of people is very important to be relayed, and can be valuable, especially when it comes to those who have been here longer.

Spirituality is not a business neither a game. Thank you for teaching me about my own post and what you should get from me.

I don't think that things should be removed just because people can have false expectations. If we are to worry about such things then we should just remove everything from the website. Responsibility to the responsible. Clergy and advanced individuals should set a baseline of reason when it comes to approaching certain topics (which, for the most part has been done if you read the forums and the library), and people would know what to expect.

I think you have too many pretensions about things you clearly have no idea about in functional reality, yet seem to have great convictions as this being something to be done your way and by your thinking, which is the usual drill of people who have no idea about things.

Responsibility to the responsible as it came into your head and the modern perception of this: is just bullshit to avoid repercussions and responsibility over one's actions and behavior, only here it is the opposite. We take as much responsibility over our actions and the consequences of things, such as that post, that in your eyes is candy, while in reality it helps no one and can be misunderstood or, at best, creative masturbation of ideas in one's head and ass. I am not here to take anyone's candy, and no, there will not be requests for the site to be deleted.

But indeed, for some people, who take for granted everything, even this care in being curative in the community through self-analysis and advancement, it should make one ponder if they didn't have access to this, maybe gratitude would ensure rather than demands.

 

[Draconi666]

It contained no real value for you or wisdom that would help anyone, just sensationalism that, at the time, thought was valuable, yet there's none in it. These things do not really help anyone.

When we know what to expect this gives us certain power over what is happening to us. It was good that post was there, people then don’t get confused about kundalini effects, because they was there.

 

[Tartarus Envoy]

not a business neither a game

And thank you for not knowing proper English to the point you took the word business literally. What was meant as business, was the idea of being busy with something and not trade, and neither did I mention any sort of game aspect to this whole thing.

I think you have too many pretensions about things you clearly have no idea about in functional reality, yet seem to have great convictions as this being something to be done your way and by your thinking, which is the usual drill of people who have no idea about things.

And I think pretension usually comes from arrogant pricks like you on the internet who believe they can call people whatever they want because they believe they're some sort of fucking Saint, even though they can barely form coherent sentences in English.

I was not ordering you around for anything to go "my way". I was simply questioning your motives. Things that anybody who is willing to take criticism should be ready for. But no, instead I wake up to this bullshit of a reply. Thank you.

Responsibility to the responsible as it came into your head and the modern perception of this: is just bullshit to avoid repercussions and responsibility over one's actions and behavior, only here it is the opposite. We take as much responsibility over our actions and the consequences of things, such as that post, that in your eyes is candy, while in reality it helps no one and can be misunderstood or, at best, creative masturbation of ideas in one's head and ass. I am not here to take anyone's candy, and no, there will not be requests for the site to be deleted.

I believe many people here, despite of being "advanced" and whatnot, cannot even understand the real intentions behind the mere requests of people, going as far as to take offense in the most stupid of things. This can be seen in some of your other posts as well, and in some other members who believe having a rank or title grants them immunity from criticism, and believe they can talk to people however they like. It's the internet after all, not real life, which you love yapping about so much.

I dont really give a shit buddy. Masturbation of the ass? How did you figure that one out? You must have a loooooot of experience for someone so... lacking in basic decency and common sense. Going as far as to insult people rather than address exactly what was wrong and resorting to things like name-calling people who did you no wrong, rather than being honest and reasonable.

For a "guardian", you are pretty delusional about yourself and others. I again, have seen this behavior in some other people here. Believing that the newer members should just shut up and not say anything. Lol.

Assuming that I'm some sort of newbie who is just gonna abuse whatever knowledge may come out of your head (which to be honest, is a stupid notion, since High Priest has written things even crazier than you and yet we don't see him hiding his knowledge), is very in tune with your egotistical character. You should change your username to NakedNeptune. Go figure out why yourself.

Again, you don't seem to have a good grasp on the English language, although this forum is clearly meant for English speakers. When I said, we might as well delete the while website, I wasn't saying it literally, but ironically and SARCASTICALLY.

But indeed, for some people, who take for granted everything, even this care in being curative in the community through self-analysis and advancement, it should make one ponder if they didn't have access to this, maybe gratitude would ensure rather than demands.

Oh? Now you are resorting to mild threats instead? Mm hm. I see, I see.

Well, you know something, dear Nakedasshol- I mean Pluto? I'm tired of pretentious louts in here pretending they are the shit, when practically all they say IS shit. And I don't care about being grateful to anybody who prefers to talk like a middle schooler rather than actually EXPLAIN why they did something. If they can't even do THAT, then that is simply their own fault and stems from their own lack of judgment about people, not anything to do with me.

No one is taking anything for granted here. I simply questioned you for your motives politely on deleting that post, and what do I get? A bunch of the usual bullshit I hear coming out from the mouths of arrogant cucks. No thank you, I won't be tolerating any more personal attacks from anyone ghere JUST BECAUSE I did something that they perceive in their own rotten mind, is wrong. I will not be insulted and talked passive aggressively to,just because I questioned someone's intentions, and I am NOT responsible for any trauma they may have had from their parents (or lack of discipline thereof) that caused that rude arrogant behavior in them in the first place.

 

[sinbad]

...

I trust your judgement, if you believe it was an inappropriate thing of you to post. I just found it really enlightening, personally, because it made me more motivated to what I'd have to look forward to.

 

[Tartarus Envoy]

I will be taking a break from this place. Hopefully permanently. I do not understand how some people, even if they have been here longer, and even have been granted whatever rank or title, are so fucking braindead that they don't even understand the basic idea of HOW TO SPEAK AND TALK TO PEOPLE. I will be apologizing for absolutely fucking nothing, and fuck whatever apology I made before, my outbursts were never because of my own supposed shirtcominfs people love to point out in their own schizophrenic minds, but because of having to deal with arrogant pricks in this forum,who believe they are too holy of a being to talk decently to other members.

people always love talking shit behind screens, because they know they cant get punched in the mouth, quote from Mike Tyson.

Fuck you, if you are like this, sincerely.
Goodbye.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

Again, it was not just "sensationalism", it was a list of detailed symptoms for two different levels for raising the Kundalini, which I believe gives perspective to anyone who is serious about this business of spiritual attainment... I frankly do not understand your logic. But whatever, it is your own post.

The experience of people is very important to be relayed, and can be valuable, especially when it comes to those who have been here longer.

These experiences are not really important or very useful at all to relay on the general forum, because what happens is people who cannot experience these things themselves due to being new to this, will end up living vicariously through the experiences of others and experiencing this in their mind rather than progress to experience anything real for themselves, or they will conflate these symptoms with experiences they themselves have and think these are of the same nature because the descriptions have something in common with what they felt sometimes, out of lack of knowledge on what differentiates substantial experiences from imagined ones or small ones.

Feelings are meaningless concerning anything of this nature, you know when you have this, there is no doubt, what you feel is there not as confirmation for anything but as result of what you know you have attained. Describing these to people therefore doesn't really help them, because people will think to look for feelings, rather than attainments and knowledge, conflating feelings with knowledge, etc, and get stuck in this, at the worst cases never attaining anything.

 

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

And thank you for not knowing proper English to the point you took the word business literally. What was meant as business, was the idea of being busy with something and not trade, and neither did I mention any sort of game aspect to this whole thing.

And I think pretension usually comes from arrogant pricks like you on the internet who believe they can call people whatever they want because they believe they're some sort of fucking Saint, even though they can barely form coherent sentences in English.

I was not ordering you around for anything to go "my way". I was simply questioning your motives. Things that anybody who is willing to take criticism should be ready for. But no, instead I wake up to this bullshit of a reply. Thank you.

I believe many people here, despite of being "advanced" and whatnot, cannot even understand the real intentions behind the mere requests of people, going as far as to take offense in the most stupid of things. This can be seen in some of your other posts as well, and in some other members who believe having a rank or title grants them immunity from criticism, and believe they can talk to people however they like. It's the internet after all, not real life, which you love yapping about so much.

I dont really give a shit buddy. Masturbation of the ass? How did you figure that one out? You must have a loooooot of experience for someone so... lacking in basic decency and common sense. Going as far as to insult people rather than address exactly what was wrong and resorting to things like name-calling people who did you no wrong, rather than being honest and reasonable.

For a "guardian", you are pretty delusional about yourself and others. I again, have seen this behavior in some other people here. Believing that the newer members should just shut up and not say anything. Lol.

Assuming that I'm some sort of newbie who is just gonna abuse whatever knowledge may come out of your head (which to be honest, is a stupid notion, since High Priest has written things even crazier than you and yet we don't see him hiding his knowledge), is very in tune with your egotistical character. You should change your username to NakedNeptune. Go figure out why yourself.

Again, you don't seem to have a good grasp on the English language, although this forum is clearly meant for English speakers. When I said, we might as well delete the while website, I wasn't saying it literally, but ironically and SARCASTICALLY.

Oh? Now you are resorting to mild threats instead? Mm hm. I see, I see.

Well, you know something, dear Nakedasshol- I mean Pluto? I'm tired of pretentious louts in here pretending they are the shit, when practically all they say IS shit. And I don't care about being grateful to anybody who prefers to talk like a middle schooler rather than actually EXPLAIN why they did something. If they can't even do THAT, then that is simply their own fault and stems from their own lack of judgment about people, not anything to do with me.

No one is taking anything for granted here. I simply questioned you for your motives politely on deleting that post, and what do I get? A bunch of the usual bullshit I hear coming out from the mouths of arrogant cucks. No thank you, I won't be tolerating any more personal attacks from anyone ghere JUST BECAUSE I did something that they perceive in their own rotten mind, is wrong. I will not be insulted and talked passive aggressively to,just because I questioned someone's intentions, and I am NOT responsible for any trauma they may have had from their parents (or lack of discipline thereof) that caused that rude arrogant behavior in them in the first place.

JG NP is being stern, but I don't believe he is being an asshole. He is strongly and clearly saying that the information is incorrect and/or won't be used properly. To me, that is the opposite of arrogant, but also self-reflective as he can see the fault in his past.

What is the reason now for getting so angry, to the point of massive amount of direct insults? This is not a discussion you can just win by simply attacking him or others, too. From my perspective you are basically demanding he provide you something which he felt uncomfortable in doing so, and when he sternly refused, you flip out on him. It is kind of funny to me that you are calling him delusional and incoherent whilst also demanding to be given his written content, but I understand you are upset.

There is a pattern here of which you are exploding based upon the perceived slight of an authority, not just JG NP or HPS Lydia. Please try to come to your senses, because this is the 2nd time it has happened, and I also don't recall you ever apologizing to HPS Lydia, either.

As HPHC had told you, you are expressing a demand for something to go your way, then when told no, your anger reaches an extreme. How can you be certain that you are not using JG NP as a target for which to release your unresolved anger? That is not just something relative to you, but also everyone. Yet, this is really hurting your relationships here, so something must be done about this.

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There is a reason beyond yourself that JG NP and also HPS Lydia were following in their actions. Even though on your end it appears like a personal slight, this is not really the case, because it applies to everyone. Instead of viewing it as an insult to yourself, it is better if you understand this through the lens of hierarchy, which does come with realistic assessments of one's self, but also opens the door for mutual growth.

Instead of flying off the handle in anger towards JG NP when told you are misunderstanding, why not instead him for his advice in improvement? The same is true when HPS Lydia limited the tarot readings; why not ask her for advice on reaching this higher standard? Further, through a closer relationship with them, this would give them a better view of you, too.

How do you know, also, that JG NP would not understand your anger you had felt, if you expressed this to him more calmly? To me, you could have simply told him you felt hurt by what he said and that would have helped you release your anger, yet also given JG NP an opportunity to better help you.

The difference here is in the method you are taking. There is a much better way to go about this then trying to burn all your bridges.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

When we know what to expect this gives us certain power over what is happening to us. It was good that post was there, people then don’t get confused about kundalini effects, because they was there.

It is the opposite. People get more confused, because they read what someone experienced through this, and they see something that sounds similar to what they experienced once. Now they think they are risen as well and activated their kundalini, and they will use your posts and experiences to say it is confirmed by our own words.

"JG Pluto said it is like this, and what I felt one day when meditating was exactly the same as he wrote it, he said so himself that I am the risen one!"

It also creates false expectations, as not everyone experiences the same things or feelings. There is likely overlap, because the process of rising your kundalini is the same, how one experiences this process can differ between people. This doesn't make sense unless you know intrinsically that you have experienced these. When you have, you know and you do not need to read about the experiences of others to understand it or "have power" over it, because one cannot have power over this process. It happens when it can happen, and there is no stopping it or controlling it, neither there is a need for this. Neither is it something you can prepare for mentally, nor is there a need.

 

[Draconi666]

It is the opposite. People get more confused, because they read what someone experienced through this, and they see something that sounds similar to what they experienced once. Now they think they are risen as well and activated their kundalini, and they will use your posts and experiences to say it is confirmed by our own words.

"JG Pluto said it is like this, and what I felt one day when meditating was exactly the same as he wrote it, he said so himself that I am the risen one!"

It also creates false expectations, as not everyone experiences the same things or feelings. There is likely overlap, because the process of rising your kundalini is the same, how one experiences this process can differ between people. This doesn't make sense unless you know intrinsically that you have experienced these. When you have, you know and you do not need to read about the experiences of others to understand it or "have power" over it, because one cannot have power over this process. It happens when it can happen, and there is no stopping it or controlling it, neither there is a need for this. Neither is it something you can prepare for mentally, nor is there a need.

This is truth, but Lady Maxine herself has said this, and in JoS there is kundalini symptoms written for same reason I mentioned.

It should be information added and explained that these effects is not about risen kundalini, but about engaging in this activity when labouring for this, these effects may become present.

Yes These symptoms is not of risen kundalini but also because of higher bioelectricity, but

My point was to acknowledge Maxine saying that knowledge is power in a way, one is not going to delusions by making up their own stories,

But to be calm and confident when one practices one knows they are moving right way and it is also motivating, such explanations should be present in these articles for the sake of others to understand it right and not to confuse.

If one just says about symptoms and not explains anything further for others to understand right, then yes it is confusing, but explaining these topics done with care it is possible to do it definetly.

 

[Draconi666]

I will be taking a break from this place. Hopefully permanently. I do not understand how some people, even if they have been here longer, and even have been granted whatever rank or title, are so fucking braindead that they don't even understand the basic idea of HOW TO SPEAK AND TALK TO PEOPLE. I will be apologizing for absolutely fucking nothing, and fuck whatever apology I made before, my outbursts were never because of my own supposed shirtcominfs people love to point out in their own schizophrenic minds, but because of having to deal with arrogant pricks in this forum,who believe they are too holy of a being to talk decently to other members.

people always love talking shit behind screens, because they know they cant get punched in the mouth, quote from Mike Tyson.

Fuck you, if you are like this, sincerely.
Goodbye.

Wtf. You should watch your mouth speaking this and show respect to JG NakedPluto, at least.

Insulting, attacking, vain shit.

For what? You think you can get something with this?

because you can not, and this behaviour even can definetly make you loose something.

Cleaning needed for you and discipline, this thread above contains also knowledge on being conscious in behaving and communicating with others, now you opposing not only NakedPluto but me also.

Please watch yourself and you should apologise community for this.

This is second time as Blitz stated.

 

[Voice of Enki [JG]]

This is truth, but Lady Maxine herself has said this, and in JoS there is kundalini symptoms written for same reason I mentioned.

It should be information added and explained that these effects is not about risen kundalini, but about engaging in this activity when labouring for this, these effects may become present.

Yes These symptoms is not of risen kundalini but also because of higher bioelectricity, but

My point was to acknowledge Maxine saying that knowledge is power in a way, one is not going to delusions by making up their own stories,

But to be calm and confident when one practices one knows they are moving right way and it is also motivating, such explanations should be present in these articles for the sake of others to understand it right and not to confuse.

If one just says about symptoms and not explains anything further for others to understand right, then yes it is confusing, but explaining these topics done with care it is possible to do it definetly.

What High Priestess Maxine had written for the Joy of Satan was more general, for a more general audience, just to inform anyone studying on what exists and what can exist, it is different from an in depth personal account by someone. Explaining more than what High Priestess Maxine wrote on the Joy of Satan website doesn't really help.

That said, even from what is written on the Joy of Satan, I have already seen people who didn't understand properly and conflated their own experiences falsely with what is written on the Joy of Satan, being delusional and completely out of touch with reality, and thinking the JoS justifies this because in their minds what is written justifies their delusions.

What is now publicly available on the JoS is more than what even an adept would have received back in the days of Ancient Greece for example, because people can only really receive so much and make sense of so much at any point in their advancement. It is in the open now because the past thousands of years all this knowledge had been completely supressed, and it needed to be made available explosively to counter the years of deception and withholding of knowledge under the abrahamic programs, but it is undeniable that this brings many problems with it, because most people who study the JoS are not ready to receive even half of what is made public now. Not everything on the JoS is meant for the public, but it is now public anyway because the situation we are in required a drastic measure.

 

[Draconi666]

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What High Priestess Maxine had written for the Joy of Satan was more general, for a more general audience, just to inform anyone studying on what exists and what can exist, it is different from an in depth personal account by someone. Explaining more than what High Priestess Maxine wrote on the Joy of Satan website doesn't really help.

That said, even from what is written on the Joy of Satan, I have already seen people who didn't understand properly and conflated their own experiences falsely with what is written on the Joy of Satan, being delusional and completely out of touch with reality, and thinking the JoS justifies this because in their minds what is written justifies their delusions.

What is now publicly available on the JoS is more than what even an adept would have received back in the days of Ancient Greece for example, because people can only really receive so much and make sense of so much at any point in their advancement. It is in the open now because the past thousands of years all this knowledge had been completely supressed, and it needed to be made available explosively to counter the years of deception and withholding of knowledge under the abrahamic programs, but it is undeniable that this brings many problems with it, because most people who study the JoS are not ready to receive even half of what is made public now. Not everything on the JoS is meant for the public, but it is now public anyway because the situation we are in required a drastic measure.

This is what about I was saying that certain explanations should be there for making everything clear for everybody.

My last reply to your comment was, exactly about how this should be dealt with.

 

[EnkiUK56]

Reminds me of the quote by Benjamin Franklin: "Some people die at 25 and aren't buried until 75"

Good one that bro

 

[Draconi666]

What High Priestess Maxine had written for the Joy of Satan was more general, for a more general audience, just to inform anyone studying on what exists and what can exist, it is different from an in depth personal account by someone. Explaining more than what High Priestess Maxine wrote on the Joy of Satan website doesn't really help.

That said, even from what is written on the Joy of Satan, I have already seen people who didn't understand properly and conflated their own experiences falsely with what is written on the Joy of Satan, being delusional and completely out of touch with reality, and thinking the JoS justifies this because in their minds what is written justifies their delusions.

What is now publicly available on the JoS is more than what even an adept would have received back in the days of Ancient Greece for example, because people can only really receive so much and make sense of so much at any point in their advancement. It is in the open now because the past thousands of years all this knowledge had been completely supressed, and it needed to be made available explosively to counter the years of deception and withholding of knowledge under the abrahamic programs, but it is undeniable that this brings many problems with it, because most people who study the JoS are not ready to receive even half of what is made public now. Not everything on the JoS is meant for the public, but it is now public anyway because the situation we are in required a drastic measure.

You are right brother I agree.

 

[Alexandros Iowno [JG]]

I will be taking a break from this place. Hopefully permanently. I do not understand how some people, even if they have been here longer, and even have been granted whatever rank or title, are so fucking braindead that they don't even understand the basic idea of HOW TO SPEAK AND TALK TO PEOPLE. I will be apologizing for absolutely fucking nothing, and fuck whatever apology I made before, my outbursts were never because of my own supposed shirtcominfs people love to point out in their own schizophrenic minds, but because of having to deal with arrogant pricks in this forum,who believe they are too holy of a being to talk decently to other members.

people always love talking shit behind screens, because they know they cant get punched in the mouth, quote from Mike Tyson.

Fuck you, if you are like this, sincerely.
Goodbye.

You are proving my points, and you are wildly inappropriate in everything. Listen, you have mostly no idea about anything, and you seem like a lost boy in a bad world. In general, people like you are borderline crazy for talking to me like this or making weird demands of others, when I would've been your best friend going forward. Not sure how worth the time you are for anybody. Maybe change back to the anime avatar before talking about Mike Tyson.

 

[Karnonnos [JG]]

People need to understand something and that is simply that as your knowledge increases, the more you realize you need to rectify certain assumptions you make or re-do things with haste when you make a mistake. Socrates had this attitude.

Thinking one is right endlessly and every material one has ever put out is the ultimate truth of everything that cannot ever be revised is the cause of the downfall of some people here. JG NakedPluto has done the opposite to this.

 

[sinbad]

When we know what to expect this gives us certain power over what is happening to us. It was good that post was there, people then don’t get confused about kundalini effects, because they was there.

I had another think about it, and I agree with JG NP - the article doesn't serve much purpose outside of mental stimulation, and in fact, would likely create more issues than solve them.

There are a few types of people who would actyally benefit from it, but they are a minority and are the one's who will raise their serpent regardless, and experience the "symptoms" for themselves.

 

[sinbad]

And thank you for not knowing proper English [...]

Your ego is hurt very easily. You must ask yourself why that is. Perhaps you have not had enough contact with any real friction/violence in your life, that mere words are enough to send you into a frenzy.

Be honest and ask yourself was this the appropriate response of a grown man.

 

[Draconi666]

I had another think about it, and I agree with JG NP - the article doesn't serve much purpose outside of mental stimulation, and in fact, would likely create more issues than solve them.

There are a few types of people who would actyally benefit from it, but they are a minority and are the one's who will raise their serpent regardless, and experience the "symptoms" for themselves.

Yes, this is not for everyone..

I gave my thoughts in regards when posting these for outsiders and people who are not very serious.

But at the end of the day it is for very few…