Current Hinduism is corrupt and toxic. Moving and converting from one religion infiltrated and controlled by the jews into another identical religion is a confusion and deception for the Gentiles from the jews. I have noticed the same jewish technique with the parties as well. In this case, the Gentiles have to choose and vote between parties run by jews and then they are confused, deceived and finally exploited. I like very much the fact that xianity it's becoming illegal. But it is very difficult for islamicized peoples to make islam illegal. Islam is identical to xianity but consists of increased ignorance through illiteracy. We can call islam a closed source jewish operating system.Egon said:"If you are wondering what Lord Krishna said to him in his dreams, there were these magical words – ‘Even if from Satan, mother is mother. We don’t leave her‘. Shubham joined Agniveer soon when he read similar words at Agniveer by its founder Shri Sanjeev Newar. In his own words- “I got my answers from Agniveer. Lord Krishna commanded me to never leave Dharma."
Awesome, Hail Satan!
That's kind of obvious and not relevand to the point being made here. The Gods aren't that limited as to not guide their people due circunstantial wrong takes on spirituality by humans. The fact that they still revere the Gods as family and refuse direct xtianty means a great win the spiritual battlegrounds, at least in my opinion, since they're closer to their Dharmic roots than people who direct worship abrahamic religions.Master said:Current Hinduism is corrupt and toxic. Moving and converting from one religion infiltrated and controlled by the jews into another identical religion is a confusion and deception for the Gentiles from the jews.
Even if corrupted in some ways they still worship the true God's and it's not as bad as other religions that worships jewish thoughtforms and have crazy "corruptions" in them. Hindu's feel much better energetically than anyone else that pray to jewboo or any other jewish thoughtform.Egon said:That's kind of obvious and not relevand to the point being made here. The Gods aren't that limited as to not guide their people due circunstantial wrong takes on spirituality by humans. The fact that they still revere the Gods as family and refuse direct xtianty means a great win the spiritual battlegrounds, at least in my opinion, since they're closer to their Dharmic roots than people who direct worship abrahamic religions.Master said:Current Hinduism is corrupt and toxic. Moving and converting from one religion infiltrated and controlled by the jews into another identical religion is a confusion and deception for the Gentiles from the jews.
Not to get off-topic, but I just have to say this...Master said:Moving and converting from one religion infiltrated and controlled by the jews into another identical religion is a confusion and deception for the Gentiles from the jews. I have noticed the same jewish technique with the parties as well. In this case, the Gentiles have to choose and vote between parties run by jews and then they are confused, deceived and finally exploited.Egon said:"If you are wondering what Lord Krishna said to him in his dreams, there were these magical words – ‘Even if from Satan, mother is mother. We don’t leave her‘. Shubham joined Agniveer soon when he read similar words at Agniveer by its founder Shri Sanjeev Newar. In his own words- “I got my answers from Agniveer. Lord Krishna commanded me to never leave Dharma."
Awesome, Hail Satan!
The problem with the caste system is not with the religion but with the institutional legal caste discrimination not against lower castes but against upper castes. The RSS and other Hindutva organizations have been operating on the scheme of respecting the lower castes as brothers since 50 something years. Its completely invisible religion and culture wise in any city. The only place it's still somewhat visible Is the extreme rural societies. Because religion and spirituality is not that important to people in the cities nowadays. They literally don't GAF.HP Mageson666 said:The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.
Thanks for the link. Don't call a liar... That's freedom of speech. If a politician lies, you can't accuse him of lying, but you have to accept his deception and turn the other cheek. I guess there's a written and unwritten rule about anti-semitism.FancyMancy said:Not to get off-topic, but I just have to say this...Master said:Moving and converting from one religion infiltrated and controlled by the jews into another identical religion is a confusion and deception for the Gentiles from the jews. I have noticed the same jewish technique with the parties as well. In this case, the Gentiles have to choose and vote between parties run by jews and then they are confused, deceived and finally exploited.Egon said:"If you are wondering what Lord Krishna said to him in his dreams, there were these magical words – ‘Even if from Satan, mother is mother. We don’t leave her‘. Shubham joined Agniveer soon when he read similar words at Agniveer by its founder Shri Sanjeev Newar. In his own words- “I got my answers from Agniveer. Lord Krishna commanded me to never leave Dharma."
Awesome, Hail Satan!
It is just a massive cohencidence that in a more-recent election in the UK, there were about 6 million parties - the main ones as usual, and about 5 999 997 smaller non-parties. People didn't know what the fuck was happening, nor who to vote for, and they were so confused. This was done deliberately, to try and fragment the votes - i.e. to remove/delete as many votes as possible, so that those votes were lost among all of the non-main parties, and so that they did not count towards a final total majority for a party to win.
People going on TV political debates and other programmes thought that they were making a difference, just like the same on Twitter and Youtube, by either having questions "answered" or just venting their spleens for 'followers' - but all that was was sometimes other members of the live audience applauding them/other social network users liking/retweeting/sharing...with exactly zero effect, making anything change. The live TV debates and programmes are an in-person version of social media platforms - rather, the other way around. The jew ignores the Goyim, and continues on, without answering questions. It thinks it is superior, all uppity-arsed and reckons it is above the Goyim.
It is also not illegal, i.e. it is legal entirely, for MPs to lie in full knowledge and awareness in parliament, and they control/con-trol/con troll more or less every area of our lives, but if you were in a police station for questioning, or in a court for one single thing... Plus, (((they))) vote for things based on how it improves (((their))) own lives/businesses - businesses which means they are not putting 100% into their constituents/constituencies - rather than helping the people and area which they are supposed to represent. However, there is/was a petition regarding (((them))) telling porkies, and a news article stating that it could then become illegal for the dirty jew to hide its jew lies and torahble ways from us. (OK, I was embellishing a bit, but it might be illegal for MPs to lie to us - 'Compassion in Politics'.) Also see this for 9 things you are not allowed to do in parliament.
I know that our Gods can guide us beyond jewish control and lies. But I mean, the masses. The jews, do not deserve in any way and must not be allowed to have any authority over our peoples. As in the case of viruses, viruses are not allowed to enter and take control, but they do so anyway, because that is their mission. It will be a great liberation for the Gentiles when the jews are gone.Egon said:That's kind of obvious and not relevand to the point being made here. The Gods aren't that limited as to not guide their people due circunstantial wrong takes on spirituality by humans. The fact that they still revere the Gods as family and refuse direct xtianty means a great win the spiritual battlegrounds, at least in my opinion, since they're closer to their Dharmic roots than people who direct worship abrahamic religions.Master said:Current Hinduism is corrupt and toxic. Moving and converting from one religion infiltrated and controlled by the jews into another identical religion is a confusion and deception for the Gentiles from the jews.
Thank you Mageson for clearing that up.HP Mageson666 said:The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.
There is a general rule about anti-racism, and in, among, with, without... that there is also a specific rule about anti-semitism; so the jew gets the general protection as well as the specific protection, as well. At the same time, there are good things said and promoted for Gay pride, Asian pride, and Black pride, but when it comes to White pride that is evil and disgusting and illegal. There seems to be something here favouring the jew, and disfavouring the non-jew, and more specifically disfavouring the White non-jew. Interesting, no? Surely - and I mean surely - there is not some sort of agenda here, but I'm a White Goy and tat means I'm a retard, so me not spik aboot dose who am spozed to wurship an me not kwesjum dem eevur. Hurr-hurr.Master said:Thanks for the link. Don't call a liar... That's freedom of speech. If a politician lies, you can't accuse him of lying, but you have to accept his deception and turn the other cheek. I guess there's a written and unwritten rule about anti-semitism.
Jack said:The problem with the caste system is not with the religion but with the institutional legal caste discrimination not against lower castes but against upper castes. The RSS and other Hindutva organizations have been operating on the scheme of respecting the lower castes as brothers since 50 something years. Its completely invisible religion and culture wise in any city. The only place it's still somewhat visible Is the extreme rural societies. Because religion and spirituality is not that important to people in the cities nowadays. They literally don't GAF.HP Mageson666 said:The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.
The problem comes when the child passes graduation and he gets into institutions based on his caste rankings in any entrance exam. The ranking system has a reservation policy (not like affirmative action) where 45-50% of the seats are reserved for the low castes regardless of social standing or economic background. What happens now is that these low castes compete only among themselves and not against the general castes, and have their own cut off criterion. So the seats that should be filled with merit are now filled according to caste, with visible mark differences. All this reservation shit is also availiable in all government and public sector jobs ,its ridiculous. Then they get massive state benefits in food, scholarships, free money, appliances, vehicles etc. Its literally inconceivable if you live in India. They have everything reserved. And the reason being that the population of these low castes are high so their vote count matters more. The entire lower class is being fed and kept alive by the tax of the middle class and upper class people where they are literally being fed and having their health and life insured and letting them open zero balance bank accounts which are state sponsored.
The root of the issue lies with caste being an integral criterion for recognition in any government institution. If the government wanted to eliminate caste problems they should first refuse to recognize caste as a identifier. Also the caste is only passed down through the paternal line. So if a high caste woman marries a low caste man, the child will become a low caste according to law and get all state benefits but the converse for state benefits is not true. If the Government refused to entertain caste distinctions the Hindutva people would effectively restructure all of society based on brotherhood and no one would feel socially vulnerable. All these low caste hype is generally capitalized on by Cultural Marxists in the Academia and the Media who have worked hard to paint the Upper castes as the enemies of the Low castes.
Moreover all of this religious inequality is being combated at an extreme level with the Hindutva group. The government simply refuses to do anything about this because they're afraid of losing votes. The inequality and injustice is also extremely overrated.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=807AFE24055A4266D00FA0B6B136B002
Jack said:...HP Mageson666 said:....
Jack said:The problem with the caste system is not with the religion but with the institutional legal caste discrimination not against lower castes but against upper castes. The RSS and other Hindutva organizations have been operating on the scheme of respecting the lower castes as brothers since 50 something years. Its completely invisible religion and culture wise in any city. The only place it's still somewhat visible Is the extreme rural societies. Because religion and spirituality is not that important to people in the cities nowadays. They literally don't GAF.HP Mageson666 said:The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.
The problem comes when the child passes graduation and he gets into institutions based on his caste rankings in any entrance exam. The ranking system has a reservation policy (not like affirmative action) where 45-50% of the seats are reserved for the low castes regardless of social standing or economic background. What happens now is that these low castes compete only among themselves and not against the general castes, and have their own cut off criterion. So the seats that should be filled with merit are now filled according to caste, with visible mark differences. All this reservation shit is also availiable in all government and public sector jobs ,its ridiculous. Then they get massive state benefits in food, scholarships, free money, appliances, vehicles etc. Its literally inconceivable if you live in India. They have everything reserved. And the reason being that the population of these low castes are high so their vote count matters more. The entire lower class is being fed and kept alive by the tax of the middle class and upper class people where they are literally being fed and having their health and life insured and letting them open zero balance bank accounts which are state sponsored.
The root of the issue lies with caste being an integral criterion for recognition in any government institution. If the government wanted to eliminate caste problems they should first refuse to recognize caste as a identifier. Also the caste is only passed down through the paternal line. So if a high caste woman marries a low caste man, the child will become a low caste according to law and get all state benefits but the converse for state benefits is not true. If the Government refused to entertain caste distinctions the Hindutva people would effectively restructure all of society based on brotherhood and no one would feel socially vulnerable. All these low caste hype is generally capitalized on by Cultural Marxists in the Academia and the Media who have worked hard to paint the Upper castes as the enemies of the Low castes.
Moreover all of this religious inequality is being combated at an extreme level with the Hindutva group. The government simply refuses to do anything about this because they're afraid of losing votes. The inequality and injustice is also extremely overrated.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=807AFE24055A4266D00FA0B6B136B002
MalinBaze said:Jack said:....HP Mageson666 said:
What is happening in india is basically a growing trend of Hindu consciousness rising and so the Marxists are also riled up to attack the Hindu cause. Since the last 50 years, the country was ruled by literal marxists in the Academia who dictated extremely awful and incorrect history and a theme of low castes vs high castes. But the Hindutva organizations had been working little by little on the grassroots level to solve our problems and reform the Hinduism into a cultural strategy that will combat Christians ,muslims and communists. The reservation program that was created in the 1950s was supposed to be held only for 12 years or so and was then supposed to be disbanded as otherwise it would have a very negative effect according to its founder. But then the congress traitors kept it as law for votes and now we're in a situation where the low caste outnumber the high castes in population size. So even if a government removes the reservation policy, according to vote bank distribution it will be defeated in the next election and the government elected then will re install it.HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:Jack said:...HP Mageson666 said:....
Basically if that is the case that means the so called "Caste System" is only for decorative purposes.
As for the Chandala and general worthless dipshits that will join xianity over the false pretext of the caste, where they belonged is outside of Hinduism in the first place. And these types are so weak and negative that maybe the general body of Hindus does better without them.
Hinduism did a lot of favors to the chandala and the lowest of the low, and it literally was washed into their image. But still apparently nothing else than breaking every Shiva statue and replacing it with a Jew is going to fit their bill. So they might as well become Muslims at this point, since there is nowhere lower to sink themselves. India has lasting problems because of this constant agitation of the lower classes towards the higher based only the fake pretext of "Bad treatment".
If there is bad treatment by the "Higher Caste Elites", what can be said about a giant mass that sucks and hardly organizes to contribute everything? The lower castes don't seem like they are fully moral over answering this question and trying to do better either. Only pointing the finger towards the "Elite Class" and saying it's their fault is dishonest. If they drink boose all day, that's what they are going to reap as a class also.
These that desert Hinduism which is really a very optimal religion especially compared to the Jew hoaxes circulating everywhere else, are the grade A traitors that would have caused immense problems during some sort of other form of bad revolution. It's better they desert Hinduism now rather than during some war time. The fact also that they can't follow any of the Gods and ranging systems which are more than enough to include everyone, is really weird. This shows a lot that why they leave has nothing got to do with the "bad treatment" from a non existent elite, nor non-existent discrimination [or even worse, benefits which elevate them faster] compared to everyone else.
If someone leaves it's because they are just flat tire dumb it appears at this point.
Caste system or not the better and more intelligent will rise at the top for the benefit of the rest, or for evil purposes. Indeed the Caste System doesn't look bad at all, except of the ability to move upwards and downwards being a helpful thing, so that those who lose buzz can drop and those who are prominent can raise. But apparently this is still obviously very rare, like 1% of the population raises if at all, as it is.
So they might as well let better brains to think for the benefit of all India rather than whine like the jew instructs. India has been doing great compared to the mass changes it has underwent, because people with brains found their places in offices. If "Affirmative action" type of garbage replaces meritocracy, then India will face a most undeserved collapse.
HP Mageson666 said:The caste system in India is not a meritocracy based on Dharma its just a guild system which is tribal in its nature. The caste your in is your identity and that is your community and that is all. If your born into the lower castes that is what you get and this can come with a lot of discrimination and frustration of ones own life goals. Untouchables just do the dirty work in that society so they are avoided its not that they are bad people they are just born into the India version of garbage man. That caste limit was in Europe with the feudal regimes and caused many people to leave to the New World. People want something better and to be free and respected. That is how humans are.
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:HP Mageson666 said:The caste system in India is not a meritocracy based on Dharma its just a guild system which is tribal in its nature. The caste your in is your identity and that is your community and that is all. If your born into the lower castes that is what you get and this can come with a lot of discrimination and frustration of ones own life goals. Untouchables just do the dirty work in that society so they are avoided its not that they are bad people they are just born into the India version of garbage man. That caste limit was in Europe with the feudal regimes and caused many people to leave to the New World. People want something better and to be free and respected. That is how humans are.
So apparently none of the actual "Caste System" of the old times even exists at all, which makes this a meme at this point.
I am not even sure if the "Caste System" was a closed system as it's advertised of being today. For one, this makes no sense. This was not applied in Rome or elsewhere, and mostly, Feudal regimes.
All Aryan regimes had also a measure of proven ability for social upwards and downwards movement, while on the other hand this does not appear to be the case how the "Caste System" is described in the modern East.
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:HP Mageson666 said:...
All Aryan regimes had also a measure of proven ability for social upwards and downwards movement, while on the other hand this does not appear to be the case how the "Caste System" is described in the modern East.
Jack said:What is happening in india is basically a growing trend of Hindu consciousness rising and so the Marxists are also riled up to attack the Hindu cause. Since the last 50 years, the country was ruled by literal marxists in the Academia who dictated extremely awful and incorrect history and a theme of low castes vs high castes. But the Hindutva organizations had been working little by little on the grassroots level to solve our problems and reform the Hinduism into a cultural strategy that will combat Christians ,muslims and communists. The reservation program that was created in the 1950s was supposed to be held only for 12 years or so and was then supposed to be disbanded as otherwise it would have a very negative effect according to its founder. But then the congress traitors kept it as law for votes and now we're in a situation where the low caste outnumber the high castes in population size. So even if a government removes the reservation policy, according to vote bank distribution it will be defeated in the next election and the government elected then will re install it.HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:Jack said:
Basically if that is the case that means the so called "Caste System" is only for decorative purposes.
As for the Chandala and general worthless dipshits that will join xianity over the false pretext of the caste, where they belonged is outside of Hinduism in the first place. And these types are so weak and negative that maybe the general body of Hindus does better without them.
Hinduism did a lot of favors to the chandala and the lowest of the low, and it literally was washed into their image. But still apparently nothing else than breaking every Shiva statue and replacing it with a Jew is going to fit their bill. So they might as well become Muslims at this point, since there is nowhere lower to sink themselves. India has lasting problems because of this constant agitation of the lower classes towards the higher based only the fake pretext of "Bad treatment".
If there is bad treatment by the "Higher Caste Elites", what can be said about a giant mass that sucks and hardly organizes to contribute everything? The lower castes don't seem like they are fully moral over answering this question and trying to do better either. Only pointing the finger towards the "Elite Class" and saying it's their fault is dishonest. If they drink boose all day, that's what they are going to reap as a class also.
These that desert Hinduism which is really a very optimal religion especially compared to the Jew hoaxes circulating everywhere else, are the grade A traitors that would have caused immense problems during some sort of other form of bad revolution. It's better they desert Hinduism now rather than during some war time. The fact also that they can't follow any of the Gods and ranging systems which are more than enough to include everyone, is really weird. This shows a lot that why they leave has nothing got to do with the "bad treatment" from a non existent elite, nor non-existent discrimination [or even worse, benefits which elevate them faster] compared to everyone else.
If someone leaves it's because they are just flat tire dumb it appears at this point.
Caste system or not the better and more intelligent will rise at the top for the benefit of the rest, or for evil purposes. Indeed the Caste System doesn't look bad at all, except of the ability to move upwards and downwards being a helpful thing, so that those who lose buzz can drop and those who are prominent can raise. But apparently this is still obviously very rare, like 1% of the population raises if at all, as it is.
So they might as well let better brains to think for the benefit of all India rather than whine like the jew instructs. India has been doing great compared to the mass changes it has underwent, because people with brains found their places in offices. If "Affirmative action" type of garbage replaces meritocracy, then India will face a most undeserved collapse.
India should be a clarion call for the absolute failure of democracy. There are different groups of people fighting for their own interests tearing the nation apart.
These liberal have a different view of india than the Hindutva people have which has existed since the partition. They are literally fighting for another country essentially. Then you have literal foreign elements being funded by the Vatican operating their conversion schemes. When Modi came into power, they finally started documenting all these NGOs and how much money was coming in and what it was being spread upon. They've been bitching about Human rights issues and all similar bullshit ever since Modi came into power.
What you see in India is what you exactly see in the US. The marxists have been in the Academia for too long and they've painted a picture of Whites as oppressors historically tormenting a revolution against the Concoted patriarchy. In india they don't have white so they concoted the Brahmins as oppressors and the patriarch rulers.
Bitch STFU and get a job
A literal veiled Muslim woman combating 'Patriarchy'
In the US, its the Whites .In India, its the Brahmins. Although Brahmins aren't an organized group and have zero political power. They replaced Racism with Casteism and Patriarchy with Brahminical Patriarchy and basically created Brahmanism which is Casteism+Patriarchy. These writers have had they're education in the marxist colleges outside india and came back with this cultural Marxism ideology.
As in the US and in India, the minorities who are being used by the marxists aren't really a big problem. The problem are these jews pretending to be white and attacking whites from within. And these Marxists pretending to be Hindu Scholars are spreading this anti Hindu ideology. Its completely incomprehensible that an adult human can develop such an inferiority complex and blame all of societies problems on a group of people who have no say socially, culturally or politically.
Then they have this thing called brahmins might not be Casteist but brahmanism is a real thing even if brahmins do not spread it I.e its institutional. Similar to how they say whites might not be racist but the racism is present and institutionalized and pervasive. No one has ever proves to me how this is possible that you have an invisible phenomenon of oppression happening that is pervasive on a societal scale and you have no proof to show for it .
In fact the proof is opposite. We have legal discrimination against whites with the diversity quotas, woman quotas and anti Male divorce laws and institutional anti white media bias. Here in india we have anti brahmin (an extremely small portion of the population) media and educational biases,similar anti male divorce laws, and reservation and anti free speech discrimination. You could say it's worse here than US. I don't know how we can solve all of this until a literal revolution of dictatorship.
If you only knew how bad things were
Indians have an visceral negative reactions to these themes being pulled by these marxists. These are relatively new talking points which I think are borrowed directly from the Trump campaign. These liberal arts and sociology students in these universities are being brainwashed by marxists who have read in abroad and imported this marxists class struggle ideology. Moreover the major Indian media is actually regional and hindi language, is pro Modi and pro hindu. The English media almost completely cover only these English media outlets in india run by marxists as if they had any sort of influence on the population.HP Mageson666 said:Jack your posts are very helpful thank you. What is the normal Hindu Indians reaction to this type of strange Modi, Hitler and smash Fascism nonsense? That is strange since the Swastika is so important to Hindu's and Hitler is well liked in Hindu India from my understanding I note a famous Swami once stated that Hitler was the father of Indian independence not Gandhi as Hitler worked with Bose. The Germans who met with Bose during Hitler's government stated that Bose was himself a National Socialist and had created its own understanding of such from his own mind based on his own Hindu Nationalism.
HP Mageson666 said:The caste system in India is not a meritocracy based on Dharma its just a guild system which is tribal in its nature. The caste your in is your identity and that is your community and that is all. If your born into the lower castes that is what you get and this can come with a lot of discrimination and frustration of ones own life goals. Untouchables just do the dirty work in that society so they are avoided its not that they are bad people they are just born into the India version of garbage man. That caste limit was in Europe with the feudal regimes and caused many people to leave to the New World. People want something better and to be free and respected. That is how humans are.
HP Mageson666 said:The caste system in India is not a meritocracy based on Dharma its just a guild system which is tribal in its nature. The caste your in is your identity and that is your community and that is all. If your born into the lower castes that is what you get and this can come with a lot of discrimination and frustration of ones own life goals. Untouchables just do the dirty work in that society so they are avoided its not that they are bad people they are just born into the India version of garbage man. That caste limit was in Europe with the feudal regimes and caused many people to leave to the New World. People want something better and to be free and respected. That is how humans are.
sahasrarabliss said:---
The lower the status, the wicked the mind is.
Lower caste people are easily getting government jobs. Many other beautiful perks that a parasite would love to have.
But about the spiritual side of these lower caste people in India..
They are hardly moral. Not really trustworthy at all. They do not have this "warrior" kind of blood.
They have a different kind of vibe.
The lower castes people differ in appearance also.
They maybe the direct result of too much racial mixing done for centuries.
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:HP Mageson666 said:The caste system in India is not a meritocracy based on Dharma its just a guild system which is tribal in its nature. The caste your in is your identity and that is your community and that is all. If your born into the lower castes that is what you get and this can come with a lot of discrimination and frustration of ones own life goals. Untouchables just do the dirty work in that society so they are avoided its not that they are bad people they are just born into the India version of garbage man. That caste limit was in Europe with the feudal regimes and caused many people to leave to the New World. People want something better and to be free and respected. That is how humans are.
So apparently none of the actual "Caste System" of the old times even exists at all, which makes this a meme at this point.
I am not even sure if the "Caste System" was a closed system as it's advertised of being today. For one, this makes no sense. This was not applied in Rome or elsewhere, and mostly, Feudal regimes.
All Aryan regimes had also a measure of proven ability for social upwards and downwards movement, while on the other hand this does not appear to be the case how the "Caste System" is described in the modern East.
Jack said:MalinBaze said:Jack said:I'm
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sahasrarabliss said:Higher castes and lower castes in India have a big difference in their spiritual evolution.
The higher ones are more spiritually intelligent then the lower castes. But this may not be the case with everyone. Varies.
An intercaste marriage in India is no less than an interracial marriage.
The thinking pattern of each caste in India is vastly different.
said:The caste system is simply a segregation of people based on how spiritually evolved this particular group of people are. It has been misunderstood.
said:There is a lower caste dalit, untouchable, while untouchablility might have vanished in modern India but this caste people are NEVER Trustworthy. Similar to jews.
said:Untouchablility may be looked upon as a positive thing from spiritual perspective.
Because, As an advanced being, for one example, you would not want your food to be cooked by a lowly devolved being. Would you?
HP Mageson666 said:The Indian establishment is cultural Marxist and the same policies are in the west just with different names. The way around this is to abolish the affirmative action nonsense and create a system that is a meritocracy as you mentioned. I believe if Indian Nationalists can create a Pan Hindu identity that is positive for all Hindu's this would work to nullify the aspects of Hinduism the enemy is manipulating to push Christianity, Marxism and Islam.
However the religious aspects have real influence many reports on this situation always mention that the lower castes find converting to Christianity, Islam or even Buddhism appealing to escape the caste system.
Jack said:The problem with the caste system is not with the religion but with the institutional legal caste discrimination not against lower castes but against upper castes. The RSS and other Hindutva organizations have been operating on the scheme of respecting the lower castes as brothers since 50 something years. Its completely invisible religion and culture wise in any city. The only place it's still somewhat visible Is the extreme rural societies. Because religion and spirituality is not that important to people in the cities nowadays. They literally don't GAF.HP Mageson666 said:The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.
The problem comes when the child passes graduation and he gets into institutions based on his caste rankings in any entrance exam. The ranking system has a reservation policy (not like affirmative action) where 45-50% of the seats are reserved for the low castes regardless of social standing or economic background. What happens now is that these low castes compete only among themselves and not against the general castes, and have their own cut off criterion. So the seats that should be filled with merit are now filled according to caste, with visible mark differences. All this reservation shit is also availiable in all government and public sector jobs ,its ridiculous. Then they get massive state benefits in food, scholarships, free money, appliances, vehicles etc. Its literally inconceivable if you live in India. They have everything reserved. And the reason being that the population of these low castes are high so their vote count matters more. The entire lower class is being fed and kept alive by the tax of the middle class and upper class people where they are literally being fed and having their health and life insured and letting them open zero balance bank accounts which are state sponsored.
The root of the issue lies with caste being an integral criterion for recognition in any government institution. If the government wanted to eliminate caste problems they should first refuse to recognize caste as a identifier. Also the caste is only passed down through the paternal line. So if a high caste woman marries a low caste man, the child will become a low caste according to law and get all state benefits but the converse for state benefits is not true. If the Government refused to entertain caste distinctions the Hindutva people would effectively restructure all of society based on brotherhood and no one would feel socially vulnerable. All these low caste hype is generally capitalized on by Cultural Marxists in the Academia and the Media who have worked hard to paint the Upper castes as the enemies of the Low castes.
Moreover all of this religious inequality is being combated at an extreme level with the Hindutva group. The government simply refuses to do anything about this because they're afraid of losing votes. The inequality and injustice is also extremely overrated.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=807AFE24055A4266D00FA0B6B136B002
HP Mageson666 said:The Indian establishment is cultural Marxist and the same policies are in the west just with different names. The way around this is to abolish the affirmative action nonsense and create a system that is a meritocracy as you mentioned. I believe if Indian Nationalists can create a Pan Hindu identity that is positive for all Hindu's this would work to nullify the aspects of Hinduism the enemy is manipulating to push Christianity, Marxism and Islam.
However the religious aspects have real influence many reports on this situation always mention that the lower castes find converting to Christianity, Islam or even Buddhism appealing to escape the caste system.
Jack said:The problem with the caste system is not with the religion but with the institutional legal caste discrimination not against lower castes but against upper castes. The RSS and other Hindutva organizations have been operating on the scheme of respecting the lower castes as brothers since 50 something years. Its completely invisible religion and culture wise in any city. The only place it's still somewhat visible Is the extreme rural societies. Because religion and spirituality is not that important to people in the cities nowadays. They literally don't GAF.HP Mageson666 said:The problem in India is the caste system the lower castes leave to convert to Christianity because it offers them some sense of equality and respect in their mind the same with Buddhism and Islam. The caste system is mainly an economic structure from the previous times. People don't like to be held back. The other problem is within Hinduism much of the spiritual knowledge has been removed and replaced with Bhakti and Jainist-Buddhist moralism. So its already created a sympathetic tie into Christianity.
The problem comes when the child passes graduation and he gets into institutions based on his caste rankings in any entrance exam. The ranking system has a reservation policy (not like affirmative action) where 45-50% of the seats are reserved for the low castes regardless of social standing or economic background. What happens now is that these low castes compete only among themselves and not against the general castes, and have their own cut off criterion. So the seats that should be filled with merit are now filled according to caste, with visible mark differences. All this reservation shit is also availiable in all government and public sector jobs ,its ridiculous. Then they get massive state benefits in food, scholarships, free money, appliances, vehicles etc. Its literally inconceivable if you live in India. They have everything reserved. And the reason being that the population of these low castes are high so their vote count matters more. The entire lower class is being fed and kept alive by the tax of the middle class and upper class people where they are literally being fed and having their health and life insured and letting them open zero balance bank accounts which are state sponsored.
The root of the issue lies with caste being an integral criterion for recognition in any government institution. If the government wanted to eliminate caste problems they should first refuse to recognize caste as a identifier. Also the caste is only passed down through the paternal line. So if a high caste woman marries a low caste man, the child will become a low caste according to law and get all state benefits but the converse for state benefits is not true. If the Government refused to entertain caste distinctions the Hindutva people would effectively restructure all of society based on brotherhood and no one would feel socially vulnerable. All these low caste hype is generally capitalized on by Cultural Marxists in the Academia and the Media who have worked hard to paint the Upper castes as the enemies of the Low castes.
Moreover all of this religious inequality is being combated at an extreme level with the Hindutva group. The government simply refuses to do anything about this because they're afraid of losing votes. The inequality and injustice is also extremely overrated.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=807AFE24055A4266D00FA0B6B136B002
sahasrarabliss said:There is a lower caste dalit, untouchable, while untouchablility might have vanished in modern India but this caste people are NEVER Trustworthy. Similar to jews.
Untouchablility may be looked upon as a positive thing from spiritual perspective.
Because, As an advanced being, for one example, you would not want your food to be cooked by a lowly devolved being. Would you?
MalinBaze said:sahasrarabliss said:---
The lower the status, the wicked the mind is.
Lower caste people are easily getting government jobs. Many other beautiful perks that a parasite would love to have.
But about the spiritual side of these lower caste people in India..
They are hardly moral. Not really trustworthy at all. They do not have this "warrior" kind of blood.
They have a different kind of vibe.
The lower castes people differ in appearance also.
They maybe the direct result of too much racial mixing done for centuries.
They have basically fallen. If one asks me, I could compare their negative tendencies with that of the blacks. I can attest that progressed tribals enroll in CRPF and BSF willingly. Some do exceptionally well in education.
I am from a lower caste (and a scheduled tribe from my mother's side) and I cannot ignore the stupidity of most people in these castes. However, it is not that they don't have any potential.
As for their appearance, it is just due to their different racial makeup. I remember that ancient India had colour-sytem, that somehow turned into birth-based caste system. They are a distinct subrace with dominant genes, unlike the higher castes which have recessive ones.
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:HP Mageson666 said:The caste system in India is not a meritocracy based on Dharma its just a guild system which is tribal in its nature. The caste your in is your identity and that is your community and that is all. If your born into the lower castes that is what you get and this can come with a lot of discrimination and frustration of ones own life goals. Untouchables just do the dirty work in that society so they are avoided its not that they are bad people they are just born into the India version of garbage man. That caste limit was in Europe with the feudal regimes and caused many people to leave to the New World. People want something better and to be free and respected. That is how humans are.
So apparently none of the actual "Caste System" of the old times even exists at all, which makes this a meme at this point.
I am not even sure if the "Caste System" was a closed system as it's advertised of being today. For one, this makes no sense. This was not applied in Rome or elsewhere, and mostly, Feudal regimes.
All Aryan regimes had also a measure of proven ability for social upwards and downwards movement, while on the other hand this does not appear to be the case how the "Caste System" is described in the modern East.
I am sure it was a closed system, and this is why many upper castes, especially brahmins, have somewhat preserved their blood. I believe that caste-system was a degraded version of colour based division. If it was open and based on meritocracy, brahmin community (an example) would've accepted the low-caste people and then intermix marriages would've ensued.
The thing is that castes also have their respective communities, very noticeable in rural india (by communities, it's not necessary they have separate residential areas, but sort of a social group). There are methods of conversions mentioned for a man to move from lower castes to (for ex.) a brahmin class. Like they will have to perfrom rituals, practise a lacto-vegetarian diet from now etc. But even if one does that and becomes a technical 'brahmin', they aren't normally accepted by the legit brahmin community. And I am thankful for this, otherwise this could've facilitated a type of race-mixing.
Upper castes have retained their distinct physical features and blood, as well as the lower castes owing to this. But this is the limit to where it remained positive, as of the past.
In the state where I live, once in a while when the manholes and drains in streets are opened for cleaning, you would always notice groups of short, young and very dark-skinned men without shirts, doing the dirty work. They do manual scavenging. (These people are paid to do so and are financially very weak.) Without a doubt they are of an untouchable/lower caste. They are hundred times better than the drunkards of the same community, who do nothing positive and remain knocked out the whole day.
Dignity is important. The stigma related to castes should move out. I see this in rural places a lot, though it is not something extreme like what marxists love to portray. It is a persisting attitude/mindset that needs to be changed. It can also be instantly cured if these untouchables get quality education and acquire decent paying jobs on their own merit.
I had my concerns over privatisation, but after remembering how many government holdings exist, I guess it is right. The solutions you present seem promising. Looks like you've been thinking over this subject longer than I have, and I respect that.
People should always get to reap the fruits of their hard work, in spite of their origins. The lower castes still have many things to learn, become diligent and change their attitudes, especially regarding unnecessary entitlements.
As far as intermixing is concerned, that will have to be checked. I've noticed that the tribals and upper-castes tend to choose amongst their own (eg. I'm yet to see a Rajput-ST couple). I'm not too sure about others though.
I just wish the best for my countrymen, be they of any caste, for the betterment of their conditions and most importantly, revival of the true Sanatan Dharma among us. I have full faith that RTRs will lead things towards the right direction.
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anonymous666 said:Man, there are unions opposing the use of machines to clean drain and manholes. And those machines would be cheaper in longer run than having a person employed.
I'm sorry I should've written 'dalit', as dalits are untouchables. Something to know, the lower-castes also have a degree of unhealthy attitude towards them.I wrote said:... Without a doubt they are of an untouchable/lower caste.
Jack said:Indians have an visceral negative reactions to these themes being pulled by these marxists. These are relatively new talking points which I think are borrowed directly from the Trump campaign. These liberal arts and sociology students in these universities are being brainwashed by marxists who have read in abroad and imported this marxists class struggle ideology. Moreover the major Indian media is actually regional and hindi language, is pro Modi and pro hindu. The English media almost completely cover only these English media outlets in india run by marxists as if they had any sort of influence on the population.
These marxists and the people being influenced by them are fostering in metropolitan cities in the rich kids strata. Some of these kids when they pursue their university education get further brainwashed. For them being liberal/marxist is a fashion statement. Like, me being liberal is an achievement and I'm so superior than you primitive people .I'm from the educated class and not like you racist villagers.
The actual problem is the internal enemies distorting Hinduism and keeping hindus divided
Which isMarxists writing and teaching wrong and select history in academia and media. Combine that with a disorganized Hindu religion and you get complete chaos.
This creates a problem where liberal hindus support Muslims and Christians against Hardliner Hindus which is why Delhi is still under a liberal government because it is the most liberal city in india. Recently they had riots because the alpha chad Modi said he'd start deporting illegal Muslim immigrants from neighboring countries after having them prove their citizenship and unanimously provide citizenship to illegal hindus who escaped persecution from these Muslim countries. Liberals lost their shit and started protesting which induced riots and many dead because hindus don't like being told what to do and muslims are violent terrorists.
And the thing is majority of Hindus just inherently hate muslims regardless of which party they subscribe to so itll still take a lot of years for marxists to convince everyone to love muslims. The major problems are the disorganized Hindu religion which is alienating the Low castes, Politicians capitalizing on their vote count and implementing Socialist policies which is negatively affecting the entire country and creating a brain drain.
The children in view of becoming hip or woke engage more in the English social media where most of these anti hindu pro Muslim talking points proliferate. The major brainwashing tools are these social media commentary sites.
If the Hindu religion was reorganized by ridding it of rituals and customs and replacing it with factual yoga ,then it would do us a lot of good. The Hindu nationalist ideology of Hindutva is also a very disorganized ideology which doesn't solve many problems that it creates. They don't have the real solutions to the problems of Christianity and islam because they offer no substitute than traditional Hinduism which is disorganized. They don't have a good economic or political solution either. A good start would be to be completely against democracy, liberalism and promote liberal economic policy at the same time being anti globalism. They don't do a lot of internet activism and understanding of social media capitalization which they really should get their hands on. They are woke on the Muslim and Christian issue though. Who knows what would have happened to india if they hadn't been protecting the people from complete islamization.
You can read about their ideology here,
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.489044
https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/Misc/We-or-Our-Nationhood-Defined-Shri-M-S-Golwalkar.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj-88Oo743oAhXY7HMBHR_3A30QFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3pn3e9fynJyXTExNBRgjvq&cshid=1583773319531
They've been publically cucking about their original assertions that Christian's,muslims and communists are internal enemies although I think they still hold that view in secret. With this kind of global scene you can't expect them to go full nazi. These people are actually nazis in disguise. Their organization was established after they learnt of fascist organization after visiting Italy. They had been supporters of hitler throughout the war and didn't join the fake peace struggle movement which was a smoke screen created by the British which had no impact whatsoever. They were hoping Bose and Germany would win however the rest we know is history.
In india we need to as hindus
1)restructure and reform Hinduism
2)remove the reservation
3)Solve the economic problems
4)Solve the wrong History problem
5)Eliminate the internal enemies
These 5 contain so many internal details its hard to cover In one post. The hindus and indians have multilayered identities among people which are directly at odds with each other. Resolving all these issues are extremely complex. Researching one issue you find it has been entangled with a bunch of other issues.
sahasrarabliss said:Tina dabi and other SC people are primarily aiming for IAS. They get succeed I don't know why and how. There are Muslims too in Indian administrative services and in police department.
I'm aiming for IAS too. But I'm from OBC.
This thread made me realised there are alot of Indians on JoS. Didn't know that. :mrgreen:
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